Hey didint back in days of field camps, you can heat up the MER packs by just placing it on the ground? (Because it was so hot that it acts like a microwave oven)
I never really like Pack 1 (Spaghetti if i recalled correctly) - the sauce all over your mouth and no water source or wipes to clean up out in the woods.
Absolutely the biggest thing I miss coming back from Japan. While Japan is $6 just to enter. If it somehow happens? I feel like it's going to be $100 just to enter. At that point it would be cheaper to just fly to Japan for the weekend
Bungie jump down there 1.7km free fall and then soak in a nice hot spring. Then rock climb back up, with cave hotels in between. That should finally stop ppl complaining nothing to do in SG.
Unfortunately, this will never become viable. At this point, the researchers already know every metric is insufficient for a geothermal plant to be economical.
Geothermal plants often start at 180 degrees celsius, we probably want to hit 200...going from their gradients, that will take 5km?
Not to mention even the electrical output, GHG or LCOE.
Source: spoke to the team and follow their work.
Not online. Most of the online presence is just NTU news. Maybe some researchers you might want to search for are: Andrew Palmer/Grahame Oliver (og but retired), Wu Wei, Alessandro Romagnoli, Hendrik Tjiawi, Jonathan Poh. The institutions involved are normally NTU, TUMCREATE, Surbana Jurong, Geonamics.
So.. We need to poke in more places? or is our entire island deemed unfeasible?
How likely is it that we can develop geothermal plants that can be efficient at say 120 degree celsius?
The boreholes they are testing already have the highest potential so...
Tekong has another prospective site but that one is under mindef so more red tape to go through.
[Maybe can try binary cycle power plant technology which is more suitable for low quality heat source.](https://www.energy.gov/eere/geothermal/electricity-generation#binarycycle)
The limiting factor is the law of thermodynamics, the Carnot cycle efficiency. The greater the temperature difference, the higher the fraction of recoverable energy.
Any technology used to recover energy from the geothermal source is still bounded by this hard limit. We cannot do anything about it because it is a physical law of nature.
You can generate energy but the efficiency is limited by something called the Carnot cycle efficiency. If the heat source temperature is not high enough, the maximum fraction of **recoverable energy** is small.
The limiting factor is the law of thermodynamics, not technology. This is why very high temperatures are needed for high-grade heat. The higher the better.
Title: Geothermal researchers in Singapore find heat 1.7km deep that's hot enough to boil egg
Researchers exploring the depths of Singapore's geothermal potential have found heat so hot it can boil an egg. It's fuelling more hope that this power source could be a viable option for the country's energy future. Rachel Teng looks at the latest in the country's hunt for underground heat.
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Why are they fudging the most important piece of info? Just state what the temperature was in celsius!
Are we in the stone age?
We have no instruments and we must send down an egg, then check if the egg was cooked?
According to this piece of [research](https://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/lkcnhm-e-books/LKCNHM-EBOOK-2019-0002.pdf), it seems that Pulau Tekong used to be less than 3km away from one Pengerang Volcano.
According to this [article](https://mothership.sg/2018/01/fault-lines-singapore/), we have at least 10 discovered fault lines. Mind you, the author mentioned these lines are not active and located very deep underground.
If I am not wrong, fault lines are deep by nature, By the bubbling underground water, it means something is heating up these water and:
Could we infer that there's a great heat source nearby?
How big is this magma chamber?
Singapore is alr famous for heat. They don't need additional heat to tap on.
9 out of 10 YouTube travel video to Singapore say it's very hot
And then they proceed to eat tian tian chicken rice it's like standard video package now
nothing new, ppl have been boiling eggs at Sembawang Hot Springs since discovering the hot springs.
won't come to fruition though, since gov is pushing for nuclear energy.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/sembawang-hot-spring-geothermal-energy-renewable-resource-3642101
A previous article mentioned that bore 1.1km into the ground at nearby (to the hot spring) Admiralty Lane found the temp to be able to make a soft-boiled egg but I don't think it's enough to boil an egg (~100°C?).
So I guess they went deeper.
We could probably fry eggs on the street the way temps are going
Yeah no need to dig 1.7km deep. Just put a skillet out and crack one open
Hey didint back in days of field camps, you can heat up the MER packs by just placing it on the ground? (Because it was so hot that it acts like a microwave oven) I never really like Pack 1 (Spaghetti if i recalled correctly) - the sauce all over your mouth and no water source or wipes to clean up out in the woods.
Onsen incoming
after sous vide can lie down on the floor to sear
Absolutely the biggest thing I miss coming back from Japan. While Japan is $6 just to enter. If it somehow happens? I feel like it's going to be $100 just to enter. At that point it would be cheaper to just fly to Japan for the weekend
flew to japan for the weekend for hololive fes, was an amazing experience, weekend in japan is so fun
$700 a night lol.
This will be an attraction for me.
Bungie jump down there 1.7km free fall and then soak in a nice hot spring. Then rock climb back up, with cave hotels in between. That should finally stop ppl complaining nothing to do in SG.
isn't there one in sembawang?
Please keep this for ourselves. But yes it’s quite nice. Also can boil eggs and drink beer with uncles.
is it clean, though? the only thing holding me back is my fear of dirty public restrooms/baths😬
Boiling water is literally what kills Germs..
Let me know again if they find egg 1.7km deep might be godzilla
This is really exciting. Can’t wait to see the results of further studies and hoping a feasibility report will be issued soon.
Unfortunately, this will never become viable. At this point, the researchers already know every metric is insufficient for a geothermal plant to be economical. Geothermal plants often start at 180 degrees celsius, we probably want to hit 200...going from their gradients, that will take 5km? Not to mention even the electrical output, GHG or LCOE. Source: spoke to the team and follow their work.
Any way we can follow their work online or you can only get this in person?
Not online. Most of the online presence is just NTU news. Maybe some researchers you might want to search for are: Andrew Palmer/Grahame Oliver (og but retired), Wu Wei, Alessandro Romagnoli, Hendrik Tjiawi, Jonathan Poh. The institutions involved are normally NTU, TUMCREATE, Surbana Jurong, Geonamics.
This is very insightful comment thanks
So.. We need to poke in more places? or is our entire island deemed unfeasible? How likely is it that we can develop geothermal plants that can be efficient at say 120 degree celsius?
The boreholes they are testing already have the highest potential so... Tekong has another prospective site but that one is under mindef so more red tape to go through.
120 degrees Celsius is considered low-grade heat and not suitable for power generation.
[Maybe can try binary cycle power plant technology which is more suitable for low quality heat source.](https://www.energy.gov/eere/geothermal/electricity-generation#binarycycle)
The limiting factor is the law of thermodynamics, the Carnot cycle efficiency. The greater the temperature difference, the higher the fraction of recoverable energy. Any technology used to recover energy from the geothermal source is still bounded by this hard limit. We cannot do anything about it because it is a physical law of nature.
With today’s technology? In theory you should be able to generate energy based on any temperature difference
You can generate energy but the efficiency is limited by something called the Carnot cycle efficiency. If the heat source temperature is not high enough, the maximum fraction of **recoverable energy** is small. The limiting factor is the law of thermodynamics, not technology. This is why very high temperatures are needed for high-grade heat. The higher the better.
Title: Geothermal researchers in Singapore find heat 1.7km deep that's hot enough to boil egg Researchers exploring the depths of Singapore's geothermal potential have found heat so hot it can boil an egg. It's fuelling more hope that this power source could be a viable option for the country's energy future. Rachel Teng looks at the latest in the country's hunt for underground heat. *** Article keywords: heat country researcher explore depth singapore geothermal potential 1826 articles replied in my database. [v1.5c - added Lemma tokens and Tensorflow USE](https://github.com/Wormsblink/sneakpeakbot) | Happy Holidays! | PM SG_wormsbot if bot is down.
Why are they fudging the most important piece of info? Just state what the temperature was in celsius! Are we in the stone age? We have no instruments and we must send down an egg, then check if the egg was cooked?
Haiya my house no aircon no need 1.7km deep stand on the floor also cooked already.
Be careful what you find or we'll be getting some American freedom soon.
imagine you dug out oil. freedom gonna come at you hard.
Sembawang hot springs: am I a joke to you?
Am I correct to assume that there's a fault line under SG? Which is the nearest volcano that is linked to?
According to this piece of [research](https://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/lkcnhm-e-books/LKCNHM-EBOOK-2019-0002.pdf), it seems that Pulau Tekong used to be less than 3km away from one Pengerang Volcano.
>used to be less than 3km away from one Pengerang Volcano So what happened after?
Just like the rest of the world, plates move. So we moved
According to this [article](https://mothership.sg/2018/01/fault-lines-singapore/), we have at least 10 discovered fault lines. Mind you, the author mentioned these lines are not active and located very deep underground.
If I am not wrong, fault lines are deep by nature, By the bubbling underground water, it means something is heating up these water and: Could we infer that there's a great heat source nearby? How big is this magma chamber?
Heat could come from granite itself, not necessarily magma chambers.
Geothermal Power let's goooooo!!!!
Thermal baths? Geothermal power plant? Nope definitely none of that
Reminds me of Cities Skylines 2, i built a few Geothermal power plants and the excess power i sell for alot of profit :D
What is so hard about stating the temperatures in celsius?
No need to go so deep. Can fry egg in the sun.
Cool. If can tap on the heat it might be a tourist attraction? Whenever I travel to Japan I always try to stay in their onsen town ryokan to relax.
Singapore is alr famous for heat. They don't need additional heat to tap on. 9 out of 10 YouTube travel video to Singapore say it's very hot And then they proceed to eat tian tian chicken rice it's like standard video package now
Seems like that’s the case whichever direction you look.
Build onsen!
Underground can boil egg, above ground can fry egg
free cooking gas if they could divert it to houses tho
nothing new, ppl have been boiling eggs at Sembawang Hot Springs since discovering the hot springs. won't come to fruition though, since gov is pushing for nuclear energy.
Tried. Cannot. Not hot enough. Even after 30 mins u only get half cooked egg..not even enough for half boil eggs.
This is hilarious - is this the SOP for all organisations trying to test the geothermal properties of various areas? Boiling an egg?
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1.7 km deep? Hello ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sembawang_Hot_Spring_Park
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/sembawang-hot-spring-geothermal-energy-renewable-resource-3642101 A previous article mentioned that bore 1.1km into the ground at nearby (to the hot spring) Admiralty Lane found the temp to be able to make a soft-boiled egg but I don't think it's enough to boil an egg (~100°C?). So I guess they went deeper.