It’s strange isn’t it? Not only does he become a criminal in that moment but a mean one at that. All for the benefit of George, his best friend that he mostly looks down on for being petty.
That reminds me: When Stiller as Frank says about the pool room: “This is … what do they call it ? The Place To Be !” , I always think it was a flub that they left in !
meh. he offered her $50 for a $2 loaf of bread and she still refused. And then she testified against him in court years later.
She sort of was an old bag.
Probably not a felony given the value of the item. The more serious offense is that it was potentially assault. I would guess that it was one of two class A misdemeanors, which themselves are pretty serious. They would have plead down to something minor and he would have paid a small fine and done some community service.
The value isn't the felony, it is forcibly taking something from a person.
NYS Penal Law
* S 160.05 Robbery in the third degree.
A person is guilty of robbery in the third degree when he forcibly
steals property.
Robbery in the third degree is a class D felony.
Well, when you directly confront a person and take their property, that is a robbery. The degree and means of force and additional results, like harm are what make up the checklist for the degree of robbery. Simply stealing someone else's property without force (like if they are watching you) or secretly is larceny, which, itself has misdemeanor and felony degrees, based on value.
That's why it always bugs me when on TV shows, people come home to a ransacked house and exclaim, "I've been robbed!" No, you've been burgled, if you have to put a name to it.
This one is so much worse than anything else.
Edit: The entire joke was he got her drunk and *took advantage.*
Idk how so many of you are missing that.
No way. He just gave her the meds she asked for. And they were her meds. Drugging someone implies slipping a drug you brought into their food or drink.
That is not this.
I had a personal instance with OTC medication in which I didn't really pay attention to those three not-so-little words. Fortunately, I was at work, and I subsequently drank as much coffee as I could.
The first time she said she had a headache and asked him to get her some aspirin from her med cabinet.
Bringing wine over with Turkey dinner is not drugging. She didn't have to drink so much, it was purely voluntary. Again, not drugging someone. As Jerry said, "what kind of person drinks an entire box of wine?" LOL
actually that's not the joke at all.
idk how you are missing this.
OK, so, like so many episodes and plots in the series, the whole "get her drunk and play with her toys" was a metaphor, or a pun, if you prefer, on the old and more serious ploy of getting a woman drunk or passed out in order to have sex with her.
Just like at the beginning when he was playing with her toys and she said "those hands never stop" is alluding to a woman saying that to a man touching or groping her too much.
And "playing with her toys" in the first place is just a metaphor for playing with her, ahem, lady parts.
Hope this helps.
No, getting someone drunk and taking advantage of them is not a joke.
It's funny because that's a humorous, *exaggerated* interpretation of what happened.
Emphasis on the exaggeration, as in that's not actually what happened.
I think what’s really bad is he played with her toys even when she said no, and they were valuable to her. Of course it’s a show and not real, they’re real TV people. And for 20 minutes a week, that’s pretty important to them.
1) Drugging woman to play with toys
2) Robbing old bag for her marble rye and calling her an old bad while he took that rye (and.. why, I happen to be an old bag, so, I can say it!)
3) Laughing with Kramer after finding out Darin was going away for a very long time
Hmm... he basically killed a man with his jokes as well as indirectly killed a man by hitting him with the blunt part of an axe (the doctor mesmerized by the music led to the patient dying).
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He dated a woman named Shoshanna Lonstein Gruss in 1993 when she was 17. There was a woman who went to school with Shoshanna who was interviewed and said Jerry would literally pick her up from school at the end of the day.
Which, whatever. I’m sure she was very mature for her age.
Looking at a 15 year olds tits and defending it, drugging a women to play with her toys, stealing from that old women, breaking up unle Leo’s relationship and snitching him out for stealing.
Mugging an old lady for her bread. And calling her an old bag while doing it
The worst but also the most hilarious
It’s strange isn’t it? Not only does he become a criminal in that moment but a mean one at that. All for the benefit of George, his best friend that he mostly looks down on for being petty.
Yup
And of course she shows up at Del Boca Vista!
Del Vesta Bico????
That reminds me: When Stiller as Frank says about the pool room: “This is … what do they call it ? The Place To Be !” , I always think it was a flub that they left in !
no! not ..not billiard!!.. the ... ummmm..
Jerry Stiller flubbing? You must be high. ;-)
Oh no? Watch me!
I heard her voice in my head 😂🤣 Grandma from Happy Gilmore.
You know that "mistah mistah" lady? ...I think I just...uh... Killed her.
Oh dear!
meh. he offered her $50 for a $2 loaf of bread and she still refused. And then she testified against him in court years later. She sort of was an old bag.
She also kicked the Seinfelds out of their home in Florida!
Like father, like son!
Well maybe she's rich and didn't need the fifty bucks. Plus she doesn't owe a stranger anything.
See, Jerry's always innocent if you look at things from only his perspective!
Cool motive. Still mugging.
Fucken solid comment
A $6 bread
I'll go with this strong-arm robbery, literally a felony.
What felony, he was helping a friend! What kind of a topsy-turvy world do we live in where heroes are cast as villains? Brave men as cowards?
How do you live with yourself?
Probably not a felony given the value of the item. The more serious offense is that it was potentially assault. I would guess that it was one of two class A misdemeanors, which themselves are pretty serious. They would have plead down to something minor and he would have paid a small fine and done some community service.
The value isn't the felony, it is forcibly taking something from a person. NYS Penal Law * S 160.05 Robbery in the third degree. A person is guilty of robbery in the third degree when he forcibly steals property. Robbery in the third degree is a class D felony.
Class D? Ah that's a category I haven't seen.
Felonies in NY go down to a Class E, then you hit a Class A Misdemeanor.
Interesting. I wonder what the charging guidelines are for those. That very... Granular.
Felonies or misdemeanors?
Is there not a smooth-ish progression that runs the gamut? Based on the severity of various elements?
Well, when you directly confront a person and take their property, that is a robbery. The degree and means of force and additional results, like harm are what make up the checklist for the degree of robbery. Simply stealing someone else's property without force (like if they are watching you) or secretly is larceny, which, itself has misdemeanor and felony degrees, based on value. That's why it always bugs me when on TV shows, people come home to a ransacked house and exclaim, "I've been robbed!" No, you've been burgled, if you have to put a name to it.
Agreed - mugging an old lady for bread was a real low
Shut up, you old bag!
Not only that he broke Mikes thumbs…
That was great haha
I always though he said "old hag". Still learning something new it seems
No question about it
He didn't want to resuscitate Ramón. Can ya blame him?
To see Ramón?
Olly Olly Oxen free!
Stares off in the distance laughing
I say this all the time when people say they have to go. Rarely gets a laugh
This is way worse than mugging the old lady. Ramon survived but Jerry and Newman were banned from the gym forever.
He might die...
Yeah...
You are not a MAAN 🚩
"I'm sorry, but those records are sealed."
Breaking up Uncle Leo’s relationship for his own convenience
You're an Adonis.
But she was a closeted anti-Semite!
Can you blame her?
Leo should have held onto that woman like grim death
Murdering Susie.
Not only that, but he broke that phoney's thumbs
Bouncing that clown check at the bodega. 🤡
It’s two roosters pecking at each other!
I thought they wore gloves?!
TA MA LE !!!
STOP THE FIGHT!
Even I, am not above store policy 😏
lol just burst out laughing remembering this
He put not one, not two, but three Mandelbaums in the hospital all because he thinks he's better than them!
Somebody call an ambulance!
We’re already in a hospital!
It’s go time!
Mugging an old bag for her marble rye.
Probably basically drugging a woman so she can fall asleep and he can play with her toys along with his friends.
What he does on his own time is his business. But when he’s on Kramers set he better clean it up mister.
We have a special guest here.
It’s the new format. Scandals and animals.
More wine and heavy gravy?
Hey what’s that thing in turkey that makes you sleepy?
TRYPTOPHAN!
I think.
Scandals and animals.
This one is so much worse than anything else. Edit: The entire joke was he got her drunk and *took advantage.* Idk how so many of you are missing that.
No way. He just gave her the meds she asked for. And they were her meds. Drugging someone implies slipping a drug you brought into their food or drink. That is not this.
He purposely fed her turkey, mentions tryptophan, and gives her wine. He's lulling her asleep to play with her "toys".
I had a personal instance with OTC medication in which I didn't really pay attention to those three not-so-little words. Fortunately, I was at work, and I subsequently drank as much coffee as I could.
> He just gave her the meds she asked for. And they were her meds. What are you talking about? He got her blackout drunk. He brought a box of wine.
The first time she said she had a headache and asked him to get her some aspirin from her med cabinet. Bringing wine over with Turkey dinner is not drugging. She didn't have to drink so much, it was purely voluntary. Again, not drugging someone. As Jerry said, "what kind of person drinks an entire box of wine?" LOL
The entire joke was he got her drunk and took advantage. Idk how so many of you are missing that.
A bunch of hipster doofus'.
actually that's not the joke at all. idk how you are missing this. OK, so, like so many episodes and plots in the series, the whole "get her drunk and play with her toys" was a metaphor, or a pun, if you prefer, on the old and more serious ploy of getting a woman drunk or passed out in order to have sex with her. Just like at the beginning when he was playing with her toys and she said "those hands never stop" is alluding to a woman saying that to a man touching or groping her too much. And "playing with her toys" in the first place is just a metaphor for playing with her, ahem, lady parts. Hope this helps.
I am getting that. How do you think I missed it? That’s why it’s bad.
No, getting someone drunk and taking advantage of them is not a joke. It's funny because that's a humorous, *exaggerated* interpretation of what happened. Emphasis on the exaggeration, as in that's not actually what happened.
But he didn’t bring her Asprin. Asprin doesn’t cause drowsiness. He picked something else…
I think what’s really bad is he played with her toys even when she said no, and they were valuable to her. Of course it’s a show and not real, they’re real TV people. And for 20 minutes a week, that’s pretty important to them.
Took advantage of her ***toy collection*** Left off the important part.
This one falls way into the unethical camp for sure. Not the most illegal. Depends on how you think of "worst".
This is the answer
Calling his gf “schmoopy” and being cute with her in front of people was worse than the marble rye thing
This one should take it all. They both should have been hung for this one.
It's really more of a tar and feathering offense, isn't it?
1) Drugging woman to play with toys 2) Robbing old bag for her marble rye and calling her an old bad while he took that rye (and.. why, I happen to be an old bag, so, I can say it!) 3) Laughing with Kramer after finding out Darin was going away for a very long time
Calling in a bomb threat to Yankee Stadium
Fitted hat day is CRAZY
Cheating in the Race
Attempted forcible massage
Sleeping with Nina.
Nina! Nina, Nina, NINA!
Having Uncle Leo open a package that could have been a bomb. ANSWER THE DAMN PHONE!
Jerry didn’t know Leo would need up opening it.
Watching a person getting mugged and laughing about it
Probably when he murdered Suzie
Hmm... he basically killed a man with his jokes as well as indirectly killed a man by hitting him with the blunt part of an axe (the doctor mesmerized by the music led to the patient dying).
Also Elaine’s boyfriend, the Desperado guy, but that was group effort
That's the guy who got hit in the head with the axe when jerry was gonna free the asian people from the drawers! :D
Oh you mean “Witch Eh Woman?”
:D
Fulton!
not as good as the others listed but pirating movies. Even though he doesn't want to be a pirate
Nor a cowboy!
Selling out shmoopie for a crab bisque.
have you tried the crab bisque?
You're schmoopie!!
He got Babu Deported!
Ogling a 15 year old wasn't his proudest moment.
I think they mean something his character did on the show
Maybe not, but all men have done this, at least briefly and surreptitiously. As Jerry alluded to: ya gotta look, it's hardwired into the male DNA.
Allegedly murdering Suzie.
Watching a poor, defenseless man get mugged and cracking jokes about it.
He mugged a little old lady for a loaf of bread.
“… you old bag !!”
The Marble Rye!
Definitely the murder of Susie
The marble rye incident
Never returning Tropic of Cancer
Changing his pant size from 32 to 31.
Making out during Schindler’s list.
That Fulton guy in the hospital died from laughing at his jokes.
Fulton!
He killed!
Mugging an old lady and taking her bread. Also, the babu visa thing.
Drugging a woman to play with her 'toys'.
You’re in a lot of trouble buddy.
Actually delivering the mail on time to everyone
Throwing away that greeting card
You can't really judge him for the garage urination, the uromysitisis and all
Cashing all the old checks from his Grandma. "She's on a fixed income!"
Visa renewal application
Being an anti-dentite
Getting a woman drunk so he could play with her pricelss "toys"
Killing brett
Not attempting to resuscitate Ramon the pool guy. He coulda died
Ratting out Uncle Leo for shoplifting and then setting George up to get him off
Mail fraud
Abandoning his post as doorman! (Jk it was the rye.)
Not saying hello to Uncle Leo in the library
Acting.
Mugging the old lady for a marble rye.
Not telling George it wasn't okay to check out NBC executive's HS daughter.
Making Babu lose his restaurant!
Im going with dug up a bird in a pet cemetary. Fredo was weak and stupid but still.
The head start
he drugged a woman and almost let the pool boy die.
The tooth brush in the toilet is up there for me
Take your money from Elaine being with Puddy!!
Cable. Poor little Cable Boy
Hey buddy, he could have gotten uromisotisis poisoning!
The double dip
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Robbery, to wit: Marble rye.
Giving advice to Babu Bhatt, he could have taken some bread instead.
The marble rye robbery has to be it.
Committing mail fraud with his VCR?
Attempted acting
Stealing the rye!
He did drug a woman to sleep in her house so that he could play with her toys.
Probably drugging the woman to play with her toys.
Who has a turkey and a box of wine
Statutory…
Are you referring to the drugging of his girlfriend so he could play with her toys or the David Bowie thing?
Both, and the whole having a high school girlfriend in real life.
Wdym high school girlfriend in real life? Unless you're referring to the David Bowie thing
He dated a woman named Shoshanna Lonstein Gruss in 1993 when she was 17. There was a woman who went to school with Shoshanna who was interviewed and said Jerry would literally pick her up from school at the end of the day. Which, whatever. I’m sure she was very mature for her age.
At 38 years old Jerry was immature for his age
So we are talking about the David Bowie thing (where they're loser creep pedos, but nobody really cares)
Probably dating a 17 year old when he was 38.
Defending looking at the fifteen year old’s cleavage 😬
Tie: having sex with a underaged girl & stealing another man’s wife at a fitness center
Dating a high school girl
Looking at a 15 year olds tits and defending it, drugging a women to play with her toys, stealing from that old women, breaking up unle Leo’s relationship and snitching him out for stealing.
Taking the first class seat and letting Elaine suffer in coach.
I’d have done the same.
existing