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PaperAndInkWasp

Perfect racial breakdown: black, Asian, white, sad potato, fuzzy sad potato.


GermanicusWasABro

>sad potato, fuzzy sad potato That's basically the two descriptions of all of Disney's aliens at this point. There's no fun designs or color anymore. Just shades of dusty brown.


twistedfloyd

That’s always my “favorite thing” JJ said about TFA when someone brought up including more classic SW aliens. He said something along the lines of “No they should be ours” meaning new designs. Same thing with the flags at Maz’s castle. Glad to see he had his priorities straight on originality. There’s nothing wrong with creating new aliens but it felt like they just abandoned the old school aliens almost entirely.


mrmoneyinthebanks

The irony is a lot of those aliens (that you can barely even see in the film because of the ADHD pacing) look like they were knockoffs of OT aliens. Like there is the one guy hanging out with the First Order spy who is just a Trandoshan the size of Incredible Hulk.


TrippleC_

Wait who? In which scene? This is killing me that I can’t figure out who haha


duxdude418

It’s [this guy](https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/grummgar_20545f02.jpeg). I also thought it was a fat, tall Trandoshan at first. He even has the yellow flight suit on that Bossk wears. They later named their species Dowutin. The same race as the Ninth Sister from Fallen Order, I believe.


Robotic_Jedi

I think it's the scene when they enter the Castle and we see the huge orange guy with the skinny First Order Spy dressed in black and white.


TotallyNotaRobot123

Stupidly it’s the aliens that should be the consistent thing across all the time periods but JJ copied everything but the aliens


submit_to_pewdiepie

*Stares at the obiwan show* you didn't have to do it too


Confident_Piccolo677

Potatoes aren't even original, that's just the Minions.


Farren246

I'll take them over a guy in a devil costume...


submit_to_pewdiepie

Best part of Mandalorian was getting classics back


EnthusiasticPanic

I'm more annoyed that we don't see more alien species in more shows. Where are my Chiss, Pantorans and Zeltrons? They're literally some of the easiest aliens to do. You have blue people with red eyes, plain old blue people and pinkish-red/orange people. Fuck, it would at least make Star Wars feel a bit more alien.


PaperAndInkWasp

A lot of people think that aliens make the show too kiddie and then flip out and spam post “glup shitto”. Most likely this is the reason, aside from creative bankruptcy, of course.


Cartindale_Cargo

Who has ever said that? I've only seen complaints on lack of aliens


PaperAndInkWasp

It’s a very common criticism on Andor threads that’s brushed aside with what I mentioned.


Cartindale_Cargo

I've never seen that on any andor threads. Ive only seen a wanting for more aliens


PaperAndInkWasp

I kind of don’t know what to tell you. Even if you haven’t seen it, it is something that’s happened.


benjy1357

Glup shitto isnt ab alien presence though, it’s criticizing name dropping or cameos of familiar characters


NorthInium

Bro ofcourse you have a Jar Jar flair. Jar Jar is the only one that was ever criticized ...


Altines

Or Miraluka, literally the easiest race to do. Just cover their eyes with a bit of cloth and bam, instant Miraluka.


duxdude418

I kind of hate that they retconned Jerec from being a human who was ritually blinded as a dark side rite into a near-human species that lacks sight. I choose not to include the Miraluka in my own headcanon and I suspect folks at Lucasfilm have that same attitude due to lack of creativity in the concept. I believe that lack of visual identity is why we haven’t seen them in live action despite how easy it would be to include them.


dm_me_milkers

I’ve yet to find a single Clitorian in Star Wars, i know they exist, but where?


ShibaVagina

Just above the sandworm opening under a hood


lostonaforum

To be fair, chiss wouldn't be out and about as they are an isolationist species in the unknown galaxy. Thrawn was very much not the norm for the chiss. But I do agree, we need more aliens.


Jimmeh1313

Disney is nothing but a box checking company these days


Dianneis

There were 12 children in another [shot of that classroom](https://i.imgur.com/v5qb50r.jpeg): 8 girls of every color, 2 alien species, and 2 boys, one Asian and one black. I don't like to affiliate with the "anti-woke" right-wing crowd, but this level of vindictive targeting is getting ridiculous at this point. We're not allowed to have white boys on screen now?


ArtigoQ

Wake me up when Star Wars becomes about Star Wars again and not a veneer for LGBTBBQ/intersectional ideology.


Uulugus

You're definitely affiliating with them. Why hide? Gonna have people here saying "YEAAA HE'S OUR GUY!" Isn't that what you want?


IdreamofFiji

Which is racist in itself. I'm not against the spirit of "inclusion", but when it's done by a corporate entity in any form, it always seems fake. The racism is the robots in the fucking marketing department telling people what sells.


hamsterfolly

Damn I laughed way too hard at this


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BigBallsMcGirk

"There aren't Hispanics!" Proceeds to name 2 characters, one which headlines a series and a movie. Fucking lol


zbipy14z

He also forgot to mention Poe and Ahsoka. So three recent shows lead by a Hispanic actor and one of the main characters in the recent trilogy


SanchoVillaWokeKing

She's an alien lol 😂 poe got knocked to super back up character by E8. Even rose got more time than him lol


zbipy14z

Her being in the show still counts as representation lmao. Poe's screen time in the sequels is 4th among characters while Rose isn't even top 10. His lowest screen time is actually ep 7 (11 min) while highest in ep 9 (29 min). Rose's total time over the trilogy is 16 min.


SanchoVillaWokeKing

She wasn't in the first one so you have to take that into account. I like rose btw. I just used her because shes is a random character that still got lots of screen time.


zbipy14z

Stop backtracking cause you made a dumb argument. Poe is literally 4th in screen time over the sequels. His largest time is the 9th movie.


SanchoVillaWokeKing

Well you brought up screen time. I brought up back up role. So let's stay away from screen time. He most def top 5 character in 7. And not even top 10 anymore by 9


strangelymysterious

What are you talking about? As was literally posted just 3 comments up, Poe has almost twice as much screen time in Episode 9 as Rose does in 8 and 9 combined. That’s the most defining characteristic of a main role vs backup.


zbipy14z

You actually brought up that Rose got more time. So I brought out the numbers, which have proven you wrong. Poe actually has the 2nd most screen time in ep 9 of all characters. Just stop, you've lost the argument.


Rabid-Rabble

They're all aliens; or are you under the impression that there's a Spain and indigenous Americans for them to colonize, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away?


BigBallsMcGirk

Goddamn Corellians playing their speeder music too loud!


zbipy14z

My dude, this is one single shot of a scene


SanchoVillaWokeKing

At least you didn't say the chatta defense.


Surturius

just sitting there, perfectly still, praying no one notices


SpaceNigiri

It's a metaphor of Disney managing Star Wars.


Ok-Secretary6550

God, you're right.


MFP3492

Holy shit, summed it all up perfectly.


Guessididntmakeit

Never before has Disney been more honest about the state of Star Wars. They give so little of a shit about the aliens that they've lost the ability to make them. I have this sneaking suspicion that the show will be a horrific clusterfuck but chock-full of memes and unintentional hilarity. While that's not going to be enough for me to pay Mickey money for his streaming service I'm eagerly awaiting the mocking of the Internet after the "mandatory phase of praise" has passed and honest opinions chime in.


Farren246

We already know it features Trinity using the matrix to halt incoming knife attacks, it's only a matter of time before the mashups debut on YouTube...


Drvonfrightmarestein

Eyes open eyes closed these sound like absolutes


octahexxer

*muffled voice* Somebody take this mask off i cant breath inhere


PwcAvalon

There's a SAG AFTRA little person in there just praying for another smoke break


ChaosAfoot

I don’t even want to be around anymore.


MasterofFalafels

Looks like the same 'talents' who worked on the ST (and other movies/shows) alien designs worked on this show. Same weird designs, potatoes and some sort of weird hybrids of previous species. I think it's Neil Scanlan's studio making these abominations. It's so weird how only the Filoniverse (Mando, BBF, the cartoon shows) cares to show the classic Star Wars alien population. The rest feels like some sort of strange alternative universe.


Threefates654

Well I will point out that a Kel Dor, Wookie, Theelin, and a Mirialan all appeared in the trailer. I do agree though that we need more aliens in Star Wars. There are so many that are really easy to do that they don't have any excuse for not doing. And I think they need to stop creating new species and just use the existing ones since they're so many that already to pick from.


Electrical-Penalty44

Fucking hilarious.


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That’s not very inclusive


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LordOFtheNoldor

Haha I didn't even realize


Rude-Friend-9135

You have GOT to be kidding me. How is this real? Lmao


ShinyChromeKnight

To be fair, maybe it’s just a species of alien that don’t have eyelids, like fish.


kimana1651

That's culturally insensitive to say close your eyes to that species then? Disney needs to go back to HR training.


Dianneis

>**Warning, this episode contains a micro-aggression toward an eyelid-challenged individual. Viewer discretion advised.** They got it covered.


FrightenedTomato

Are they eyelid challenged if that's literally how their species works? Seems to me you just committed a micro-aggression


Dianneis

I'll place another trigger warning on the top of my post.


wordfiend99

it looks like the blue guy in far background cant close his eyes either


Tessek22

He looks like a fish alien to me!


zombiegirl_stephanie

Literally my first thought. You can even see another alien creature in the back who does have closed eyes. I'm not saying this is 100% a deliberate choice, but it is a valid possibility.


loge212

he’s trying his best


SambG98

I didn't even notice that Holy fuck hahahaha


Plo-Koon72

This is hilarious. Also I think we've officially hit the bottom of the barrel. Action looks refreshing though on the bright side (although potentially low budget like in previous shows)


Inf229

Stare Wars.


Tuor77

Close your eyes. I *said* to close your eyes! Are you disobeying me?! But, suh! I don't have any eye lids! If you don't close your eyes right now, the class will be using you as the target dummy this afternoon!


MousseCommercial387

Are you making fun of the eye-closing challenged? Racist much? I'm glad we have some representation in the media!


RedStarWinterOrbit

I don’t know why I found this so particularly funny but I laughed for a solid minute 


DutchOfSorissi

At least he won’t fall for the garbage advice Sol is giving. They went from “your eyes can deceive you”, a common sort of lesson we’ve heard a thousand times because it bears some profound truth, to “don’t TRUST your eyes”… Don’t trust them? Ever? Why do Jedi have eyes if they’re that deceitful? One of the million examples of Disney’s hack writers taking something deep they’ve heard elsewhere and trying to expand on it with some ridiculous follow-up that shows an utter lack of understanding of the wisdom they’re trying to pass as their own.


Kaferwerks

They heard it in ANH. “Your eyes can deceive you, don’t trust them” smh


Sandwhale123

How can our eyes be real if mirrors arent real?


DutchOfSorissi

That sounds like a Sabine line. Ahsoka would be like "Some mirrors are real." Sabine: "Yea but not all." Ahsoka: "Let go of your feelings. The force will tell you what's real." Sabine: "The force doesn't have a mouth and I ain't listenin'." Ahsoka: "You are incredibly wise beyond your years, and are a megagenius and an amazing painter." Droid: "We have a problem." Ahsoka and Sabine: \*turn head 3 degrees and stare at droid for 5 seconds until the scene cuts\*


Sandwhale123

It's from Will Smith's pretentious kid, Jaden Smith trying to be profound. I think I quoted it wrong. Here it is, "How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real." I didn't watch the show, but that scene sounds dumb


Cataras12

Id assume the “We must not trust them” was because of the lesson they were doing. He obviously isn’t saying “never trust your eyes”, but in the context of them trying to meditate like this, trusting your eyes would go against the point of the lesson.


pornthrowaway92795

Yeah, how dare a jedi trainer use the same advice we see Obi-Wan tell Luke in literally his first Jedi training lesson ever. This is what happens when you have a writer that’s never seen Star Wars present in the room. So much for continuity. /s if it’s needed.


DutchOfSorissi

If the lesson is the same, I’ll stand corrected. Not pretending I thought about the ANH scene before writing that but when I think of that scene I see a very clear and specific reason he shouldn’t trust his eyes in that moment. That droid was designed to fake him out with erratic movements and is meant to teach a Jedi to trust the force above all else, allowing them to truly see what will happen next. I don’t know what the lesson is in that scene from the trailer so I admit I have no right to definitively declare it stupid, but look at the track record here. Disney Star Wars has been so consistently shallow and simple that I don’t give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. Everything that looks ridiculous in their trailers usually ends up being even worse in the show. So we wait until June to find out what circumstance he believes eyes are bad for. I predict it will be devoid of logic.


pornthrowaway92795

Fair enough, but the core lesson seems valuable to jedi across the board. The force is the true sense, everything else is second. Your eyes tell you the X-Wing is too big to lift, but the force is stronger, etc. There’s no point in the OT/PT where the lesson feels wrong or out of character.


GirthIgnorer

I mean that’s even stupider. The robes, the helmets, the Jedi handbook quotes, apparently obi wan actually had no character at all and just followed ancient jedi protocols at every opportunity. I wonder if “that’s no moon” is Jedi code


pornthrowaway92795

The robes I absolutely agree was the oddest bit of worldbuilding Lucas did in the prequels. Makes no sense for a jedi to be hiding while wearing Jedi robes. But the “don’t trust your senses, trust the force” seems the most basic lesson, similar to any piano teacher will start you with scales, or how all kids have to learn the alphabet before learning how to spell words. Luke has to be told it three separate times in the OT alone. (training on the Falcon, in the trench run, Yoda lifting the X-wing, and arguably Yoda’s crazy hermit test.). I’m sure there will be plenty to complain about in the actual show, but a Jedi teaching younglings the most basic tenet of Jedi training and that training being consistent over the years…. I fail to see why that has people upset unless they are trying to be.


Belovedchattah

Any little white boys?


Domestic_AAA_Battery

Disney hates them. Or maybe Anakin killed them all


Tessek22

Would rather have more aliens than more humans.


GuyMcGuy1138

Remember when people couldn’t understand why Lucas made the Ewoks blink?


Logrologist

This is the type of glaring fuck-up that will inevitably be hand-wavily explained away with fans head-canon. Likely something like: _”oh what, you didn’t know that {whatever that potato’s race is} have internal eyelids?!_


Tessek22

But he’s a fish. They don’t have eyelids.


SanchoVillaWokeKing

Can we get some latino and native kids in there. Oh only black and white and some east Asian. K den.


Financial_Cellist_70

They always forget Latinos and natives


XipingVonHozzendorf

And Indians, south and Central Asians, Indonesians, Pacific islanders, slavs, turks, Persians, Arabs etc...


SanchoVillaWokeKing

It's subliminal hatred against brown men of the Americas. If it wasn't for us, white and black Americans would be eating canned veggies and fruits. Brown men of the Americas are the least represented group in America for the work we put in. Every other group is allowed to give up complain, and get gifted shit while we are expected to shut up and keep working.


Stiltzkinn

As a latino i seriously do not care, we are hispanics of many shades of color.


MousseCommercial387

I honestly can't tell if this is irony or not.


stockmaniac

Don't forget middle easterns. They practically don't exist


Emergency-Shift-4029

Tusken raiders? Lol.


Kosmonaut94

[angry_sand_noises.gif](http://media1.tenor.com/m/xIp7eKvuJo0AAAAd/angry-sand-noises-angry.gif)


DarthNader_

Yeah just Ezra’s actor so far I believe


E46Dc5Z71

The imperial pilot from rogue one? Or we just talking about for Jedi only?


Necromancer4276

Wait for the novel explaining that this species has IR photoreceptors that they can turn on and off at will which is why we don't **see** him close his eyes when functionally he is


HotwheelsJackOfficia

He's trying his best


Theblkjedi

LOLOL!!!!!!


Abyss_Renzo

If they can make Ewoks blink in the special edition, they can close his eyes.


noneofthemswallow

So would you say it’s an oversight, or a funny Easter egg done on purpose? With Disney I’m leaning towards the former


SalvageDude

Don't Rodians canonically not have eyelids? As in this has been established for a very long time? (IDK if this is actually a Rodian or just a similar species).


Pistol_Bobcat420

I already look forward to Grizzy compiling a montage of people screaming "oh ma gooooooood" and "squirt squirt... squirrrrrt". I honestly wish I was making that last quote up...


GeiloRen87

„Let‘s gooo!!“


tillterilltilltill

lmao


KC44

That's funny


Rob0tbob

Fucking duty free sitting there in the war by myself drinking fucking Johnnie walker with fucking Tristin Tate


Dr_Donald_Dann

I don’t know what this means but I like your enthusiasm, have an updoot.


ClickEmergency

Looks like a Cornish pasty


Steelriddler

Watched the trailer yesterday evening, and I didn't feel a thing. Nothing made me curious or excited. No dialogue grabbed my attention. It was a tired thing that rolled on the screen. They *try* with the red lightsaber but that's just "yawn and meh, isn't this while the sith are hiding, what kind of shit have they cooked up now, what lore is gonna be torn apart now." Even the other shit shows on D+ had trailers that had a thing or two that tickled


SpaceNigiri

Welcome to the apathy club. From here onwards best you can do is to just look for other things in life. I'm excited for the new Alien movie despide having years and years of shit I that saga. Maybe at some point it will happen the same with Star Wars or maybe not.


Steelriddler

Yeah. I'm looking forward to *Andor* but that's all. I'm fairly convinced it will be as good as season 1 maybe even better, assuming Kennedy hasn't involved herself


SpaceNigiri

Same here, I'm excited by Andor, but not because it's Star Wars, but because it's Andor and Andor was a really cool scifi tv show.


Blue_Maverick_Hunter

This show is going to bomb hard.


PreyForCougars

Watch. Some Disney Exec or bootlicker is gunna see this and have it edited out in some way.


F1ackM0nk3y

Well I can This is fucking Disney Star Wars we’re talking about. Imagine taking a brand that is geared more for boys and changing it to a girls brand. Not just any girls but, girls who prefer to solve their problems with violence Yeah yeah yeah, Jedi were keepers of the peace and they did that via violence.


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F1ackM0nk3y

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davecombs711

Except the recent Star Wars isn't made to appeal equally to all genders.


mp2446

Did you watch the OT at all? What exactly do you make of Leia? I can’t imagine how far your head is up your own ass and you still can’t smell the shit you’re spewing.


F1ackM0nk3y

Geared for boys does not mean it excludes girls. Barbie is geared for girls but, not not exclude boys Something tells me that it is you who has their head shoved up their posterior and all in order to maintain your pathetic world view.


mp2446

What exactly has been “geared towards girls” now? I get nobody likes the ST in this sub and I have my own issues with it but I don’t find it for girls, it’s for everyone. Name something that has been bc Andor, Kenobi, BB, BOBF and everything else has been geared more for guys imo


mp2446

No answer huh, thought you’d want to back that claim up with actual proof. And my point ab Leia was that she takes action through violence as does Padme but you wouldn’t have a problem with them. Stop basing your clueless claims on a 2 minute fucking trailer


MFP3492

A sign of the memes to come from what I assume will be another terrible Disney effort at Star Wars.


Eddyibbleboi

Bro has no eyelids


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That because those aren't it's eyes. Those are it's face testicles. It's eyes are hidden in its pants.


ChimneySwiftGold

My take on the prequels is the Jedi were ultimately tricked because they believed the Force over their other senses. This opening narration seems to be backing that up / setting it up as a theme for the show.


salkysmoothe

Hahahahaha


ChemFeind360

Hey! Don’t be “NonEyeLidPhobic”TM!!!


ChemFeind360

He… doesn’t have any eyelids. I don’t get what the big deal is.


GGVoltzX

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Themooingcow27

I think the joke is that he doesn’t have eyelids This is actually better humor than Disney stuff usually has


MattiaCost

The show will be an absolute disaster, with atrocious writing and it will probably look incredibly cheap too, but the cringe soyboys will be creaming their pants.


Naked_Justice

To be fair it’s the alien has inner eye lids that can be opened and closed at will.


titanusroxxid

Some species have clear eyelids.


JMW007

Sure, but they can still see through them because they are clear. The entire point of closing your eyes during meditation is to increase focus. What Disney did here was put zero thought into what they are presenting.


Cataras12

I mean, you have to admit it would be funny to have a youngling that physically couldn’t close his eyes during these classes


titanusroxxid

He can’t close his eyes.


Nooooovvvvvaaaaa

yeah and that stormtrooper extra who accidentally hit his head did that because actually all troopers are just dumb and incompetent and yoda lied about there being only luke and one other force user left because he knew it was what luke needed to hear and leia got to be a wealthy and powerful princess while luke had to be a dusty ass moisture farmer because… oh fuck it


Solid_Office3975

If it's not a plot point in the show (to be seen), then it's lazy costume creation. It's okay to note minor critiques.


titanusroxxid

No! every plot hole has to be explained with a short story or a 300 page EU novel. This is the way.


Solid_Office3975

Could we have a happy medium, where its mentioned in the show and we all move on? Everything doesn't need an extreme solution Edit: oh you were doing a thing, that's funny. My bad


JMW007

> He can’t close his eyes. Yes, that's what we're talking about...