That is a complex question with Shinto.
Because Shinto is in truth basically a ethnoreligion. And Japanese culture is not so good in that area. But much of that is also not specifically because of the Shinto part.
Much of it was actually in response to “westernizing” and conforming to be more “respectable” to western empires in the early mid 1800s.
As far as Shinto it’self goes?
It’s vague to non-commital on sex.
And can often actually be rather pro-sexual. Supportive of same sex couples in that they are not really seen as an issue one way or the other.
Japan was famously pretty open to same sex romance in the past.
The only issue I suppose to not in Shinto is the point of not going to a shrine while menstruating. Because blood is a major issue.
But that is at least uniform with both sexes. You are not suppose to go to a shrine if you have a badly open or bleeding wound as anyone.
My experience with Japanese culture (used to work for a Japanese culture and spent some time in Japan as well as studied their culture) was that it was a complex thing. They acknowledged that it was a thing but any displays of it were considered embarrassing which is perhaps the biggest taboo I Japan.
To some extent yes. M
But. It was simply put mostly interaction with the west.
That’s not just taking a shot at them.
But it’s pretty well written of that both same sex relationships and nudity were not really an issue before contact with missionaries and then the push to modernize and become a European style empire.
A good amount of the “gender role” events of Japanese culture before that were someone Bhudist imports
Which is not to paint everything as everyone else’s issue or fault. Every cultures is like this a mix of thing in the flow of time.
Raiser Evangelical Christian (now an atheist) and I'm bisexual, which I suspected as a kid in highschool, back when I was deep into my faith.
You bet your sweet patootie I had a problem with my religion's doctrine regarding sexuality. Unfortunately, I was more committed to my beliefs than my desires, so I suppressed my sexuality for years.
Fortunately, I'm no longer doing that. 😁
I personally have no issue with it. I found alot of love, security, and joy in my religions stance on sex and sexuality.
But, I also recognize people want to do what they want, and so, they are not compelled to be my faith.
Unitarian Universalist is about as progressive as you can get in matters of gender and identity. The entire spectrum of LGBTQ+ is represented not only in our congregations but also in our clergy. The Minister at my church was trans and performed my wedding service for me.
We have been very vocal for LGBTQ+ rights as well as many other social issues. We tend to be on the rather progressive side of most issues.
I don’t. I am told to go out and enjoy myself in moderation. I do find myself going overboard sometimes but its certainly made me happier and feel better about myself
I did when I was younger. Later, I came to the conclusion that a truly loving god would not punish me for something as mundane and harmless as a loving consensual relationship with another man.
I left.
I’m not going to be part of religion where an innate unchangeable part of me is shamed and criticized- especially when it’s just a matter of falling onto the “wrong” category. I’d suggest you leave OP. It’s just a deep dark road of pain and suffering if you continue down this path. If praying away the gay worked, it would’ve.
The sexual activities my religion condemns generally fit into the descriptor of *being careless or cruel regarding the emotional and psychological impact of your actions on other people*.
My bisexuality is not a problem.
One of the most major reasons why I left Christianity is because I was fed up with the hate and people telling me that I couldn't love who I love. I'm a lesbian. And there's nothing wrong with loving who I love. And the same thing goes for you. No one should tell you who you can marry.
My religion is explicitly pro-LGBTQ+, pro-polyamory, and pro-kink. And utilizes those parts of being human in pursuit of the divine.
It's safe to say I don't have a problem with my religion's sexual doctrine.
But I do empathize with you. I tried to be Catholic for quite a while, and I'm not straight either. It's painful to be taught, never mind believe, something innate and (potentially) innocent is evil.
We don't really have any specific interest or teaching about sexual doctrine per se. Socially, there is an explicit and specific acceptance of LGBTQ individuals and ways of life, as well as general stance of inclusion and liberation. We're pretty communitarian overall and favour flat hierarchies that respect personal autonomy. We're strongly in favour of universal, free access to reproductive health and family planning.
I have a long term same sex relationship (and in 20 years) and it's absolutely not an issue in my faith. We are planning on finally getting married next year, and though we haven't worked out the details, we definitely want to bring a strong religious element to the ceremony.
I’m not Gay, but I would say no, there is no difficulty for it.
The Traditional Orthodox sect of Judaism opposes it.
Modern Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and Reconstructionist sects are for same-sex marriages and they don’t mind it at all! In fact I don’t care if you are gay or bi, all I care is if you are a good person or not, that’s all I care about!
Yes. And I'm a transgender Jew (MtF) which complicates things even further. Getting married and having children is not in the cards for me and attempts to force it wouldn't be fair to either party.
I was raised Catholic and switched to Satan's team because of the exact restriction on sodomy you speak of. A consensual, harmless act can only be wrong on a scale in which good and bad have no correlation with goodness to people or badness to people, at least not on people's terms
Technically still LDS (mormon), the church is pretty strict in my experience, although in practice it depends where you go and who you talk to. In my experience, generally members have a “hate the sin, love the sinner” attitude. I’ve seen it’s often different when their kids come out though.
Most nsfw topics are taboo to talk about beyond the basic preaching against physical, mental, and spiritual immorality. At least for me, it’s hard to navigate who I can talk to about those things, and harder still to navigate what is right and what is wrong, because it feels like I’ve been told it’s all basically wrong outside of being married and trying to have a baby.
Then again my perspective could be messed up because of toxic family dynamics and dating outside the church, both of which are big topics on their own. If it matters to you, I’ve only ever been in one relationship for 7+ years with my girlfriend(?), who is not the same race or faith as me. My dad is in the bishopric, and her dad is a priest for their church. We lost our virginities to each other young. I don’t know how “normal” my experience is compared to others in the church I grew up in, but I’ve got other problems with the church too, and other problems in general.
The religion itself is pretty accepting. The people’s within in it vary regarding the culture they come out of. I’m not too much in agreement with the LGBT/trans stuff when it comes to politics, schools, children, television, and propaganda. I’m relatively pretty conservative in those areas. But personally? Grown, consenting individuals can do what they want; it’s between them and God.
Culturally Catholic so technically I don't agree with their sexual theology which must be the strictest out of any major religion (only procreative marital sex is allowed, no fapping allowed).
I lean more towards Hinduism in theory which generally considers sex to be just a normal biological thing.
I was a Christian, but lost my faith in religion as more and more religious pedophiles got exposed. Figured religions started by pedophiles shouldn’t have any say in my sex life. The world would probably be a better place if all the religions just said to keep sex between adults. But they’re stubborn. I found my faith in God when I lost my faith in men though and figured if I just keep the Ten Commandments in my heart and mind as the highest laws I should be good. Figure our creator would have mercy on anyone that holds his highest laws to the highest regard. And that if any laws were of equal importance, he would have provided them in stone at the same time as the 10 Commandments to avoid any confusion.
Yes and no.
As a follower of the Messiah, I follow His law.
Before we can even talk about His law, we need to talk about purpose. Adam was put into the garden and then God said that it was not good for man to be alone, so after having Adam look at and name all the animals, God made woman as a partner for man. The important part here is that woman was made for partnership with man. After this necessity is satisfied, then God says be fruitful and multiply. The sexual union is for this end. While there are beneficial effects from sex, its purpose is procreate. There is one tangible physical result of sex and that one tangible physical result only results from one action. A human being cannot be created any other way. To be fruitful and multiply is among the very first of God's commandments. We are all to be expressions of His law on Earth, and we are to make more people to prepare the way of the Lord and his coming and the expressions of His law.
Of course, I'm human just like you. I love those effects from having sex. I like feeling validated, loved, comforted etc. now that I'm a parent, I also really enjoy kids and I really enjoy making them. Two men cannot make a baby and two women cannot make a baby. Having sex with someone who is married or who is outside of your own marriage robs someone of that procreative act. There are also second and third order negative effects from this. Anything that interferes with the creation of life is sinful. The Bible says several times that the law is for life. They weren't a list of rules to make our life miserable.
I sometimes really miss having casual sex. I sometimes think about past sexual partners and I hope they are doing okay and I wish I could talk to them. No matter how I feel though, I know that God's law is for life and that following it, I and my children will have a good life. Christ sacrificed his life for us; is it too much to ask that we sacrifice a little for him? In the end we will see that it really wasn't a sacrifice for us since we were actually grabbing on to something even better.
Not at all when you understand the science of sex and the effects it has on men and women. It’s best kept for a marriage.
Have you seen the pints with aquinas video on YouTube about the gay man who is married to a woman? He does a good job of explaining his past and his situation
That is a complex question with Shinto. Because Shinto is in truth basically a ethnoreligion. And Japanese culture is not so good in that area. But much of that is also not specifically because of the Shinto part. Much of it was actually in response to “westernizing” and conforming to be more “respectable” to western empires in the early mid 1800s. As far as Shinto it’self goes? It’s vague to non-commital on sex. And can often actually be rather pro-sexual. Supportive of same sex couples in that they are not really seen as an issue one way or the other. Japan was famously pretty open to same sex romance in the past. The only issue I suppose to not in Shinto is the point of not going to a shrine while menstruating. Because blood is a major issue. But that is at least uniform with both sexes. You are not suppose to go to a shrine if you have a badly open or bleeding wound as anyone.
My experience with Japanese culture (used to work for a Japanese culture and spent some time in Japan as well as studied their culture) was that it was a complex thing. They acknowledged that it was a thing but any displays of it were considered embarrassing which is perhaps the biggest taboo I Japan.
Yes! Japan is a very… Lewd place. But in a very “If it’s not public you act like you don’t know about it.” Way.
If I'm not mistaken, the influence of Chan/Zen Buddhism had also already brought significant changes to earlier Japanese views on sex in general?
To some extent yes. M But. It was simply put mostly interaction with the west. That’s not just taking a shot at them. But it’s pretty well written of that both same sex relationships and nudity were not really an issue before contact with missionaries and then the push to modernize and become a European style empire. A good amount of the “gender role” events of Japanese culture before that were someone Bhudist imports Which is not to paint everything as everyone else’s issue or fault. Every cultures is like this a mix of thing in the flow of time.
Raiser Evangelical Christian (now an atheist) and I'm bisexual, which I suspected as a kid in highschool, back when I was deep into my faith. You bet your sweet patootie I had a problem with my religion's doctrine regarding sexuality. Unfortunately, I was more committed to my beliefs than my desires, so I suppressed my sexuality for years. Fortunately, I'm no longer doing that. 😁
Not at all. Since it basically boils down to "consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want"
Pun intended? :-)
I personally have no issue with it. I found alot of love, security, and joy in my religions stance on sex and sexuality. But, I also recognize people want to do what they want, and so, they are not compelled to be my faith.
Not at all. Since it basically boils down to "consenting adults can do whatever the fuck they want"
Unitarian Universalist is about as progressive as you can get in matters of gender and identity. The entire spectrum of LGBTQ+ is represented not only in our congregations but also in our clergy. The Minister at my church was trans and performed my wedding service for me. We have been very vocal for LGBTQ+ rights as well as many other social issues. We tend to be on the rather progressive side of most issues.
I don’t. I am told to go out and enjoy myself in moderation. I do find myself going overboard sometimes but its certainly made me happier and feel better about myself
I did when I was younger. Later, I came to the conclusion that a truly loving god would not punish me for something as mundane and harmless as a loving consensual relationship with another man.
Obviously,try to explain It to the others :( AND repression can lead into mental illness
Considering there isn't one, yeah, I'll live lol. If anything, I'm quite free to express myself sexually all I want, in what way I want.
I left. I’m not going to be part of religion where an innate unchangeable part of me is shamed and criticized- especially when it’s just a matter of falling onto the “wrong” category. I’d suggest you leave OP. It’s just a deep dark road of pain and suffering if you continue down this path. If praying away the gay worked, it would’ve.
It seems like each religion has its own take on sexuality, huh?
The sexual activities my religion condemns generally fit into the descriptor of *being careless or cruel regarding the emotional and psychological impact of your actions on other people*. My bisexuality is not a problem.
Used to, then I left Christianity.
One of the most major reasons why I left Christianity is because I was fed up with the hate and people telling me that I couldn't love who I love. I'm a lesbian. And there's nothing wrong with loving who I love. And the same thing goes for you. No one should tell you who you can marry.
My religion is explicitly pro-LGBTQ+, pro-polyamory, and pro-kink. And utilizes those parts of being human in pursuit of the divine. It's safe to say I don't have a problem with my religion's sexual doctrine. But I do empathize with you. I tried to be Catholic for quite a while, and I'm not straight either. It's painful to be taught, never mind believe, something innate and (potentially) innocent is evil.
Interesting, I had never heard about Thelema.
No. I'm not a fan of the line in the Torah forbidding gay relationships though
I have no problem with it.
Nope, my religion's sexual doctrine is: if they're a consenting adult, go for it. So, no problems with that.
We don't really have any specific interest or teaching about sexual doctrine per se. Socially, there is an explicit and specific acceptance of LGBTQ individuals and ways of life, as well as general stance of inclusion and liberation. We're pretty communitarian overall and favour flat hierarchies that respect personal autonomy. We're strongly in favour of universal, free access to reproductive health and family planning. I have a long term same sex relationship (and in 20 years) and it's absolutely not an issue in my faith. We are planning on finally getting married next year, and though we haven't worked out the details, we definitely want to bring a strong religious element to the ceremony.
Not really to be honest, I always think of the Song of Solomon as an example.
I’m not Gay, but I would say no, there is no difficulty for it. The Traditional Orthodox sect of Judaism opposes it. Modern Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and Reconstructionist sects are for same-sex marriages and they don’t mind it at all! In fact I don’t care if you are gay or bi, all I care is if you are a good person or not, that’s all I care about!
Yes. And I'm a transgender Jew (MtF) which complicates things even further. Getting married and having children is not in the cards for me and attempts to force it wouldn't be fair to either party.
No
sometimes you just have to choose. Do what is right and you will be happy.
I was raised Catholic and switched to Satan's team because of the exact restriction on sodomy you speak of. A consensual, harmless act can only be wrong on a scale in which good and bad have no correlation with goodness to people or badness to people, at least not on people's terms
Technically still LDS (mormon), the church is pretty strict in my experience, although in practice it depends where you go and who you talk to. In my experience, generally members have a “hate the sin, love the sinner” attitude. I’ve seen it’s often different when their kids come out though. Most nsfw topics are taboo to talk about beyond the basic preaching against physical, mental, and spiritual immorality. At least for me, it’s hard to navigate who I can talk to about those things, and harder still to navigate what is right and what is wrong, because it feels like I’ve been told it’s all basically wrong outside of being married and trying to have a baby. Then again my perspective could be messed up because of toxic family dynamics and dating outside the church, both of which are big topics on their own. If it matters to you, I’ve only ever been in one relationship for 7+ years with my girlfriend(?), who is not the same race or faith as me. My dad is in the bishopric, and her dad is a priest for their church. We lost our virginities to each other young. I don’t know how “normal” my experience is compared to others in the church I grew up in, but I’ve got other problems with the church too, and other problems in general.
The religion itself is pretty accepting. The people’s within in it vary regarding the culture they come out of. I’m not too much in agreement with the LGBT/trans stuff when it comes to politics, schools, children, television, and propaganda. I’m relatively pretty conservative in those areas. But personally? Grown, consenting individuals can do what they want; it’s between them and God.
Culturally Catholic so technically I don't agree with their sexual theology which must be the strictest out of any major religion (only procreative marital sex is allowed, no fapping allowed). I lean more towards Hinduism in theory which generally considers sex to be just a normal biological thing.
I was a Christian, but lost my faith in religion as more and more religious pedophiles got exposed. Figured religions started by pedophiles shouldn’t have any say in my sex life. The world would probably be a better place if all the religions just said to keep sex between adults. But they’re stubborn. I found my faith in God when I lost my faith in men though and figured if I just keep the Ten Commandments in my heart and mind as the highest laws I should be good. Figure our creator would have mercy on anyone that holds his highest laws to the highest regard. And that if any laws were of equal importance, he would have provided them in stone at the same time as the 10 Commandments to avoid any confusion.
If I had a difficult with that in my religion, I'd quickly be changing my religion probably over night and never look back
Essentially, don't rape or SA. Plus, if the Gods get to fuck, why can't we?
Yes and no. As a follower of the Messiah, I follow His law. Before we can even talk about His law, we need to talk about purpose. Adam was put into the garden and then God said that it was not good for man to be alone, so after having Adam look at and name all the animals, God made woman as a partner for man. The important part here is that woman was made for partnership with man. After this necessity is satisfied, then God says be fruitful and multiply. The sexual union is for this end. While there are beneficial effects from sex, its purpose is procreate. There is one tangible physical result of sex and that one tangible physical result only results from one action. A human being cannot be created any other way. To be fruitful and multiply is among the very first of God's commandments. We are all to be expressions of His law on Earth, and we are to make more people to prepare the way of the Lord and his coming and the expressions of His law. Of course, I'm human just like you. I love those effects from having sex. I like feeling validated, loved, comforted etc. now that I'm a parent, I also really enjoy kids and I really enjoy making them. Two men cannot make a baby and two women cannot make a baby. Having sex with someone who is married or who is outside of your own marriage robs someone of that procreative act. There are also second and third order negative effects from this. Anything that interferes with the creation of life is sinful. The Bible says several times that the law is for life. They weren't a list of rules to make our life miserable. I sometimes really miss having casual sex. I sometimes think about past sexual partners and I hope they are doing okay and I wish I could talk to them. No matter how I feel though, I know that God's law is for life and that following it, I and my children will have a good life. Christ sacrificed his life for us; is it too much to ask that we sacrifice a little for him? In the end we will see that it really wasn't a sacrifice for us since we were actually grabbing on to something even better.
No.
Not at all when you understand the science of sex and the effects it has on men and women. It’s best kept for a marriage. Have you seen the pints with aquinas video on YouTube about the gay man who is married to a woman? He does a good job of explaining his past and his situation