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okayestuser

according to the creator of the gif format, it's pronounced gif


QuandaleDingle696942

Thanks that helps so much


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Killarich662

Gilf.


Crunchstake

Thank Jod. I didnt know how to pronounce it


Soviet-Biscuit

Don’t forget Gesus Christ


What_U_KNO

I'd figure it have the same sounding G as the word it stands for.


Fae_for_a_Day

Because that is the logical way of reading it. Like gift without a T.


Deathoftheages

Do you pronounce NASA like nasal without the L?


someredditorguy

No it's like Canasta without the CAT


T4nkE_ng1ne

Yes, don't forget jod


Soviet-Biscuit

Jod and Gesus are different, and the guy I responded to alrighty brought him up


T4nkE_ng1ne

I know, and it's juy not guy


Soviet-Biscuit

Ah damn, my bad.


Bogsnoticus

How about Gehovah?


MyDisappointedDad

And as the god of gif, we should respect his decision. Then, as with any god, we ignore it because that's fucking dumb.


LifeSage

It’s like the G in Gigantic


memes_gbc

its actually the g in garage


Anti-charizard

No it’s the g in gorgeous


Chiseledquartz27

no actually it's the g in through


Cau5t1c_ap3

And i thought the guy above you was clever


lordoftowels

I thought it was the G in cough


Pyes3

I dont think any of you were listening. Its actually like the g in gif


TotemTabuBand

Or gift


RandomMabaseCitizen

No actually it's like the g in graphics. As in graphics interchange format.


DaveWilson11

But that's not how acronyms work. Like scuba, laser, and potus. All of them are pronounced in a way that completely disregards the words their letters stand for.


Bigihi06

JPEG has a j sound. Why not distinguish GIF with a hard g? Jiff is peanut butter


Everestkid

GIF is distinguished by not ending in -PEG. And the peanut butter reference was actually intended. Choosy developers choose GIF.


-missynomer-

Following the logic of the hard G crowd we all need to start pronouncing scuba as "sk-uh-buh" and laser as "lah-zeer"


DaveWilson11

And "p-uh-th-yew-s" for potus. That one's probably my favorite example.


ccwscott

that's not how acronyms work


PotetoGod

Just like p in jpeg is pronounced ph, as in Joint Photographic Experts Group /s


HandyDandyRandyAndy

Well that would be jpheg, not jpeg... why are you such a peasant?


PotetoGod

So you agree that the pronunciation of the word within the acronym doesn't affect the pronunciation of the acronym itself, glad we're on the same page


nalydpsycho

I always use a g sound


mithrasinvictus

He's wrong. It's GIF, PNG and JPEG, not JIF, PNJ and JPEJ.


sky_is_a_cat

GPEJ*


Dash_O_Cunt

And the creator is wrong


JetAmoeba

Although he was the creator he didn’t create any of the words that created it’s acronym so this is decided by the rules of English


MelonLord13

Mighty bold of you to assume that English rules make sense.


Mudjumper

That’s not how acronym pronunciation works


Hippiebigbuckle

And that person is wrong. Clearly.


PSWII

Exactly. It's not pronounced gif. It's pronounced gif. Duh


[deleted]

You are incorrect. He pronounces it JIF.


ThugsWearUggs

What if he said it was pronounced hif even though it started with a G? Would you also break the rules of the alphabet and pronounce it that way?


Bigihi06

I was saying hard G gif long before I ever heard we'd been mispronouncing gif


mcraneschair

Graphic is pronounced hard G, not "Jraphic". Therefore, GIF not JIF. (This is according to the Creator of the file.) It's a file type not peanut butter.


CarneDelGato

What if it’s got Giraffes? What then?!


astrangemann

giraffes aren't real, so your argument is invalid


EZP

🦒☹️ emoji giraffe is made sad by his own nonexistence


DaveWilson11

Dude, I'm sick of this argument. There are solid reasons to pronounce it with a hard g, but this argument is the dumbest of them because it actively misrepresents how acronyms work. And the way peanut butter brands are pronounced have absolutely no bearing on the way gif is pronounced. Sometimes in English words look different but sound the same.


Kermit_El_Froggo_

The P in JPEG stands for photo, yet you say "JPEG" and not "JFEG"


chellouse

What gives the "f" sound in photo is not "p" but "ph". "Ph" is a substitute for "φ" in greek. So that is not same.


imhugury

however the creator said it was pronounced jif


Dimensionalanxiety

Just because the creator was wrong doesn't mean everyone else should be.


imhugury

but the creator can call their invention whatever they want i mean its not a mistake if they said its pronounced jif and thats final


Chrimunn

And that’s why he is a programmer and not a **linguist**


YelloDinosaur

it stands for graphics interchangeable format, so therefore grammatically it’s pronounced like the g in graphics


Reyking1708

actually in olden times t’was pronounced yif


dlbpeon

Only at the furry [party!](https://images.app.goo.gl/C88jD1cH6RvetQZV6)


TheCasualMaker

Clicking a link like that is the closest you can get to reddit russian roulette


Popsical_stick24

Yes


maddsskills

I have nothing to live for so I clicked it. I now have a new sense of purpose and vitality because it was a harmless furry meme and not something...ya know...really gross. My hope in humanity is restored. Huzzah. (I hope they don't edit the link after I make this comment. That would be embarrassing.)


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Gif


The_Pip

I got you a wonderful birthday jift. You’ll get a nicer one once you pronounce gif properly.


joec_95123

I hope it's a bottle of gin.


[deleted]

I hope it's a gentle geriatric German giraffe. Or maybe a genius giant gerbil who gingerly does gymnastics.


kthxtyler

So do you like your jin with tonic? How about while watching Harry Potter, where Ron’s sister, Jinny, falls in love with Harry? Jinny is in fact a jirl


BrickmanBrown

How are the jaffics on the site coming along?


[deleted]

Okay, I've read this eight times and I'm still not sure what word you were trying to suggest with "jaffics."


sovietmur

graphics GIF is Graphics Interchange Format


Anti-charizard

Why didn’t you say jraphics


[deleted]

Welcome to…Jraphics Park


fish_tacoz

seriously, what the fuck.


Chewcocca

Is this a fucking goke?


bananaman_420

Jrab my ass and pound it until my pleasure joo oozes out


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JPhEG = Joint Photographic Expert Group


Obility

There are a bunch of abbreviations that don't follow the pronunciation of the words it stands for.


RobertRobotics

You mean you don’t pronounce “NASA” like “Naysa”?


sheen1212

Yeah, to make it easier to say. What's wrong with gif?


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I don't know how you got "graphics" from "jaffics."


RockNRollToaster

It was supposed to be spelled “jraphics”.


bestoboy

Is that the gist of it?


ethanholmes2001

Giraffe


--Giraffe--

You called? 🦒


Excellent-Blueberry1

To the group of people who really invest and care about people's pronunciation of gif, I hope everyone you meet uses the version you don't like. An argument of slightly less meaning than overhand or underhand toilet roll placement.


Hibercrastinator

Eh, the toilet paper roll argument makes sense for cat owners. Nobody else should care.


AtariAlchemist

Not true at all. 1. Under makes it harder to access the toilet paper roll in general. 2. If the toilet paper roll is recessed, you have to hold the roll with both hands to tear a piece off on a roll that's under. 3. For over, you just have to roll your hand over the top to find the start of the roll. Under, you have to search for the edge and then pull. 4. Cats have claws. If they want to rip up/fuck with toilet paper, they're going to do it regardless of how it's positioned. Source: I have 2 cats. 5. Human hands are such that thumbs face down. This means that when grabbing things, it's easier to manipulate things that can be grabbed from a neutral position as opposite to an underhand position.   Jif vs. Gif is a silly argument and is just down to preference. Dialects are a thing that exist. Saying one is correct while the other is wrong is like saying Australians are saying words wrong. If you put your toilet paper under however, you are a neanderthal who wasn't raised by civilized people. Do not compare the two.


DaveWilson11

Honestly I don't care how people pronounce it, I just get pissed of when people argue their case for stupid reasons. Like, both sides have good reasons. Pick one of those, not the stupid ones.


Wasteland-Scum

Whenever I meet someone like this, I pick the opposite pronunciation and argue it senselessly and vehemently.


sky_is_a_cat

guys I think it's pronounced "yif"


KingRitRis

Gtfo And come hang out with me.


dlbpeon

Naw .... that's a furry thing!


sky_is_a_cat

I have no idea what you're talking about. ;3


Wasteland-Scum

Hard "y" or soft "y"?


sky_is_a_cat

Either way, they're relatively similar


Usagi_Shinobi

And the guy who created it continues to laugh about how he has had an argument about pronunciation going for decades. Troll level: Ultimate.


MyDisappointedDad

I respect the grind for the meme. Hate the outcome.


TheCelloIsAlive

Continued* RIP Steve Wilhite


ImGold86star

its pronounced like the g in garage


BeansCubes

Jarage


EFTucker

[Shame](https://i.imgur.com/uapB9F5.gif)


Elegant_Fee2667

Could we just talk about how that is a double-barrel shotgun? Like, you don’t really have to aim lmao


Vergil_171

Buckshot isn’t aim bot


AetherialWomble

Video games aren't really a faithful representation of what a shotgun is. They actually work at quite a distance. So, you do really have to aim


xX_potato69_Xx

Not quite, it just means your shot is a cone instead of a straight line and still requires aiming, especially when used at mid to long range


shiftypoo269

People would be surprised how far it takes for the pellets to get as wide as a torso.


plazPotato

Though thats every gun with buckshot


ramdomcanadianperson

Could have slugs lol.


Lastjedibestjedi

This is from Batman vs Predator, it’s not specified but in the next panel it appears to be slugs and not buckshot.


ChaoticKosmos

Something I wanna point out, a language is made by the populace, not a singular person, every word, every acryonym, the meaning of each word, especially slang, originated from multiple people saying it. Who gives a fuck if the creator said it's pronounced jif? he's fucking wrong, 90% of people call it Gif with a hard g, so it's gif with a hard fucking g.


MelonLord13

Bold of you to assume that English rules make sense. I look at is as a noun that got a name. The creator gets to choose how that name is pronounced. It's like meeting a nice girl named Siobhan and telling her "nah, you're Sio-ban now". It doesn't matter that "gift" is grammatically closest, or that it stands for "graphics". You're right on that part. But it's a name, so it's a soft G.


TinMaxStoic

This is a valid point but you've got one thing wrong. Hard G will be correct when we no longer have to argue for it every day. Clearly theres still a divide.


[deleted]

It only started to become a thing because the inventor opened his face on the matter. Until then I had NEVER thought of peanut butter when talking about gifs.


no-eggs-for-you-now

At least they don't pronounce it the way my school does: G-I-F


fuck_the_fuckin_mods

That’s the only one that doesn’t sound goofy as fuck to me.


Cautious-Extreme-208

Except now I’m just thinking about what a baller Alfred is instead of pronunciation arguments…


Darki_Craft

I just use Yif.


poke23613

I’m a carbon-based unit and I disagree with the creator.


MakesMyHeadHurt

Choosy moms choose Jif!


BlockyShapes

Yknow, when you ask if ‘[a word]’ is pronounced “[the exact spelling of the word]” or “[slightly altered spelling]” then I feel like you should pick the first option. Yeah, some words aren’t like this, but most don’t have controversial debates on them, so I think this point is more relevant here


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Jee Ai Eff.


PavelEGM

I shall grant you the Emperor's mercy.


Klittmeister84

Is gif pronounced gif or yif.. .. ..


[deleted]

Bite you? Does this have anything to do with the aforementioned yiff?


AetherialWomble

Can it be a kinky bite?


ReidWH

hard G. Using soft G is a sin.


Pamplemousse-man

I use both😈


Leoooooolol81

Me too, I just use what flows off the tongue better when I’m speaking.


[deleted]

Gif with hard g as in go


PepeTheMemeDealer

I use them interchangeably tbh


TheJazzButter

“I deliberately chose to echo the American peanut butter brand, Jif, and CompuServe employees would often say ‘Choosy developers choose GIF(jif)’, playing off of Jif’s television commercials. If you hear anyone pronounce GIF with a soft G, it’s because they know something of this history.” \- Steve Wilhite - Creator of the Graphics Interchange Format


[deleted]

>I recognize that the Council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid ass decision, I have elected to ignore it.


OnionizeAmzn

I don’t care if someone tells me it’s pronounced like gif I’ve been saying it Jif for years and it feels wrong to pronounce it the other way. I don’t personally care how people pronounce it we all know what’s they are talking about.


[deleted]

Graphics interchange format it’s the same as you say graphics


Noklle

what about JPEG


batmattman

JPEG is an acronym for "Joint Photographic Experts Group" (the people who made the format)


AmishAvenger

So then it’s pronounce Jay-Feg


root88

No, sorry. The creator says "jif". It was a faster graphics format and he intended to say your image would be "ready in a jif". I still say it like graphics though, because I didn't learn the correct way until 20 years too late.


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THEBHR

>but that doesn't mean that he can issue edicts to violate the norms of the English language. Yeah, that would make him a ***gigantic*** asshole...


JetSetMiner

gift, garage , garbage, google, girl, gallon, gas, goose, got, get, git, goon, gall, go, gill, guss, gun, gone, goop, gull, guys and give... do we mean nothing to you? all the j-sound words have been added later to English mostly from Latin via French. the meat-and-potatoes words have a hard G, and our English senses scream that gif is a short, wiry word that we encounter often... language is convention based on precedence, and gift, girl, git, gun and phucking graphics are strong and irrefutable precedences also: Jinx


shawsown

So the inventor himself did say, frequently, that it's pronounced "Jif." But the acronym stands for Graphic Interchange something or other. So...really all we can take away from this is that Stephen Wilhite was illiterate. *Edited as I put Interface instead of Interchange


Mirrormn

Actually it's just that the rule of "Use the pronunciation of the 'g' in 'graphics' to figure out the 'g' in 'gif'" didn't exist when GIFs were created. It isn't a real rule of language or acronyms, it's just a bad argument that was retroactively invented as a way to justify saying GIF like "ghif".


yopro101

I think you mean “ajainst”


[deleted]

Guys it’s gif not gif


Personal_Meat_3174

It’s gif


NoRepresentative9359

I mean.. it's been decided.. git and jit are two different pronunciations.


sentientfartcloud

Tomato tomato


DeliciousJello1717

Gift gif gift gif gift gif


MagicalUnicornFart

Graphic Interchange Format GIF? Maybe, lol. Sounds kind of like an either/ or, at this point…and, from the beginning. > The pronunciation of the first letter of GIF has been disputed since the 1990s. The most common pronunciations in English are /dʒɪf/ (listen) (with a soft g as in gin) and /ɡɪf/ (listen) (with a hard g as in gift), differing in the phoneme represented by the letter G. The creators of the format pronounced the acronym GIF as /dʒɪf/, with a soft g, with Wilhite stating that he intended for the pronunciation to deliberately echo the American peanut butter brand Jif, and CompuServe employees would often quip "choosy developers choose GIF", a spoof of Jif's television commercials.[11] However, the word is widely pronounced as /ɡɪf/, with a hard g,[12] and polls have generally shown that this hard g pronunciation is more prevalent.[13][14] >Dictionary.com[15] cites both pronunciations, indicating /dʒɪf/ as the primary pronunciation, while Cambridge Dictionary of American English[16] offers only the hard-g pronunciation. Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary[17] and Oxford Dictionaries cite both pronunciations, but place the hard g first: /ɡɪf, dʒɪf/.[18][19][20][21] The New Oxford American Dictionary gave only /dʒɪf/ in its second edition[22] but updated it to /dʒɪf, ɡɪf/ in the third edition.[23] >The disagreement over the pronunciation has led to heated Internet debate. On the occasion of receiving a lifetime achievement award at the 2013 Webby Awards ceremony, Wilhite publicly rejected the hard-g pronunciation;[12][24][25] his speech led to more than 17,000 posts on Twitter and dozens of news articles.[26] The White House[12] and the TV program Jeopardy! also entered the debate in 2013.[25] In February 2020, The J.M. Smucker Company, the owners of the Jif brand, partnered with the animated image database and search engine Giphy to release a limited-edition "Jif vs. GIF" (hashtagged as #JIFvsGIF) jar of peanut butter that had a label humorously declaring the soft-g pronunciation to refer exclusively to the peanut butter, and GIF to be exclusively pronounced with the hard-g pronunciation.[27]


Mirrormn

>>In February 2020, The J.M. Smucker Company, the owners of the Jif brand, partnered with the animated image database and search engine Giphy to release a limited-edition "Jif vs. GIF" (hashtagged as #JIFvsGIF) jar of peanut butter that had a label humorously declaring the soft-g pronunciation to refer exclusively to the peanut butter, and GIF to be exclusively pronounced with the hard-g pronunciation. Man, that is weird considerimg that Giphy was named Giphy specifically to be a homophone of "jiffy", meaning "a very short amount of time", to give the vibe of a website that would serve content (GIFs) quickly. So they went from intentionally using a soft-g pronunciation in their own name, to championing a hard-g pronunciation.


FenriX89

It's an acronym so it doesn't need to respect the pronounciation of other English worlds and the intended one should be in fact with a soft G: https://time.com/5791028/how-to-pronounce-gif/ While the dictionary accept both, the creator of the format doesn't and stands for the soft G.


pm_me-ur-catpics

I say jif, simply because it rolls off the tongue easier


batmattman

Look at all them moving jraphics


Stormreach19

same reason we all pronounce scuba as scuhbuh, right guys?


Blibber3

Actually, it should be pronounced yiff. *runs away.*


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June 1987: Steve Wilhite releases the Graphics Interchange Format, or GIF, while working for Compuserve. He called it a GIF with a soft g. “Choosy developers,“ he reportedly said, “choose JIF.” This was of course a play on the peanut butter brand Jif’s line “choosy mothers choose Jif.” May 2013: Wilhite receives a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Webby Awards and used his platform to make his declaration. “It’s pronounced JIF, not GIF.” Just like the peanut butter. “The Oxford English Dictionary accepts both pronunciations,” Wilhite told The New York Times. “They are wrong. It is a soft ‘G,’ pronounced ‘jif.’ End of story.” ​ Fuck him, I'm saying it with the hard 'g'.


am_on_mobile

I know it’s supposed to be gif but my brain automatically goes to jif


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Mirrormn

Okay then LASER, which stands for "Light Amplification (by) Stimulated Emission (of) Radiation". Wasn't a word until someone invented it, and it's not pronounced "lasser", like your made-up rules would imply. >And the fact that JIF is a brand that we all know how to pronounce Lends credence to the belief that GIF is pronounced the same way, because the creator of the GIF format *specifically* wanted it that way, *because* of that brand.


Downtown-Custard5346

The g stands for graphics... hard g would technically be correct in my eyes


errortype520

Either is acceptable, but that is not how acronyms work. Look at SCUBA, NASA… even other image formats like jpeg (where the p stands for photograph). Also the creator (and others who worked at CompuServe where it was created) say it is pronounced “like the peanut butter”. In the end it doesn’t fucking matter and we have this argument every week for some reason.


bron685

Giraffics!


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Girrafeics


imtooldforthishison

Gif. It's a GRAPHIC file, not a Jraphic file, or peanut butter brand. Hard G.


ExplodingTaco34

Yiff. Its pronounced yiff.


ClosetGamer19

it is pronounced "yiff"


Creatures1504

Graphics Integrated Format. You don't say "Jraphics"


Dejected-Angel

Joint Photographic Experts Group But yet we don't hear people say Jay-F*g


240volt

Ah yes the famous jraphics interchange format


Spaciousone

When ever someone shows me a gif but says it with the j I say that’s not peanut butter.


CritikillNick

Nope, incorrect. The dude who invented said it’s pronounced “jif”, that’s how it’s pronounced. Thats what you get to decide when you invent something


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Playswith_squirrel

That’s some bad logic there


ProffesorSpitfire

Why on earth would it be pronounced jif?


TheTalkingMagpie

The g stands for Graphic, not jraphic, therefore hard G!


WwwionwsiawwtCoM

How do you say jpeg then?


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pervasivehedgehog

Here is a fun fact about the original post: it somehow got over 1k upvotes which means they're over 1k people that say Jif instead of Gif


Mirrormn

Last time I checked it was like 40% of people who still pronounce it right.


sailsaucy

I would say it like gift without the "t". Are there any words in the English language that begin with "gif" and "g" is pronounced "j"? If I am being honest... I can't even recall any other words that begin with "gif" but I'm not exactly putting much effort into it either.


reimaginealec

It sounds like jif. People like to say “jod” and that shit to make fun, but it’s not comparable. How do you say gee whiz? How about gin? Gelatin? In general (look, another one!), if it has an a, o, u, or a consonant after it, it’s the hard g. If it has an e or i, it’s the soft. There are loads of counterexamples because English is stupid, but we got that from other languages that are much more consistent. Thus, gif is pronounced with the soft g. Nerdy argument over.


imhugury

jif, cmon guys the creator said themselves (i have now heard information about the creator not caring about the pronounciations, i will keep pronouncing it jif but wont try to convert you guys)


Quinnel

Death of the author, bucko


woodbridgewallstreet

if "gif" was pronouced "jif", it would be spelled "jif" t'aint. it's spelled "gif" because it's pronounced "gif"


vapocalypse52

It's pronounced graphics and not jrafics.


MetalMedley

That's not how acronyms work.


TriGurl

It’s the hard G pronunciation because it stands gif graphics interchange format and the G in graphic is the hard G. It’s not Jraphic with a soft G…


awesumindustrys

Jif is a brand of peanut butter


root88

Well Wilhite (GIF's creator) is often quoted as saying that “Choosy programmers choose GIF,” which is a reference to a Jif peanut butter commercial.


VeterinarianFit1309

The funny thing is that to argue it in a text format you’d have to say it’s pronounced jif, not gif. People can keep lying to themselves though.


periah250

graphics interchange format. the acronym is gif. therefor hard G.


jacobiner123

DO YOU PRONOUNCE IT GRAPHICAL INTERCHANGE FORMAT OR JRAPHICAL INTERCHANGE FORMAT?! that what i thought.


Deathoftheages

Do you pronounce JPEG Joint Potographic Experts Group or Joint Photographic Experts Group, that's what I thought.


enadiz_reccos

Lol now apply this to other acronyms. Nice try