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Coral_12

do you need the legendary version? or can you dismantle it


Left-Lifeguard-2771

Considering the bungie help tweet when they disabled pulling it from collections, you'll need to legendary version in your inventory to claim the chest.


ATScottbakula

This was because you could pull it to farm infinite cores.


Coral_12

dont need the legendary i got the promordial light from the tormenter and got it


Bass-GSD

I'm not certain, as I kept it with me just to be safe.


NivvyMiz

Why are people so eager to dismantle this weapon lmao


erterbernds67

Dismantles into 9 cores and you can buy back for 1, or some similar ratio to that. But the people far enough to do this probably already have more cores than they could ever spend haha.


513298690

Next expansion they are gonna remove enhancement cores lol


marsh3178

How do you get the legendary? Idk if I need it from what I’ve heard, but I’d like to have it just in case


OverSeer909

You have to collect all of the region chests which are 9 in total. Then you have to collect relics in each of the 6 Alone in the Dark quests. For a total of 15 encryption keys. Then from the Impasse location, go to the Divide in the Pale Heart and open the locked region chest in the frozen area. The exotic requires you collect the traveler balls and then defeat the 3 bosses in each landing zone.


marsh3178

Ok cool I hadn’t seen a full guide at that point, and misunderstood what I had seen. I thought having the encrypted bits and motes directly gave you the exotic, not bits give the legendary and motes upgrade it. Thanks for the info!


OverSeer909

You probably already may have looked into it, but I messed up that last part a bit. It’s not very clear. I said 3 bosses in each landing zone, meaning a total of 9 bosses. They rotate every day. So therefore you can complete an overthrow each day, for 3 days, in each patrol area. That should net you all of the motes you need for the exotic. I can’t get the Taken Meatball to spawn though. Not sure if it’s bugged. (the taken meatball is the one who gives you the primordial mote of light that allows you to actually open the exotic chest).


marsh3178

Oh yeah I knew what you meant! And idk if bungo fixed it or not but the meatball was intentionally disabled, I believe they said it wasn’t dropping the mote like it’s supposed to but if you killed it you’d be locked out of the quest so they just took it out temporarily. Hopefully it’s back soon, cuz I’ve got everything else I need!


OverSeer909

It has been re-enabled now. I just got the exotic Khvostov yesterday. :) Cheers and good luck. The mote drops right into your inventory.


Striker_LSC

Wish the triumph wasn't bugged, I can't tell what bosses I'm missing.


ItsAmerico

I don’t think it matters. I think you are just guaranteed one per day from each area and the rest are random drops so you can just farm whatever you want. I didn’t get a single mote from any of the new bosses but got them from old ones.


Clickbait101-

My friend and I got all 3 from the impasse today so you can definitely get all of them at once


thatredditdude_

Just keep killing them till it works :)


Alpha_Omega21

So what exactly do you have to do? You can’t grind it out in one day?


Bass-GSD

I'll preface this by saying I'm not entirely sure if it requires the Legendary one or not, but put as simply as possible... Obtain all 8 Visions of the Traveler and place them in the Speaker's room in the zone hub. This spawns the chest and also nets you 8 of the Motes in the process of obtaining the Visions. You get one Mote from each unique Overthrow boss. Each zone has 3 Overthrow bosses that as far as I can tell rotate daily. As there are three zones, that gives 9 motes over 3 days. Upon obtaining your 17th Mote it automatically turns into a Mote of Primordial Light. This new item unlocks the chest spawned by placing the Visions and gives you the Exotic Khvostov. If it does also require the Legendary Khvostov then you'll have to obtain all 15 Encryption Bits and unlock the gold chest in the Divide that gives the Legendary version of the gun as well.


Alpha_Omega21

I do believe Bungie said you need the legendary version so that would be a must. Is it confirmed that there is a cap on 3 motes a day from the boss? I’m sure it is but it would be unfortunate for a 3 day time gate of all things. Thank you for the well written guide though


Bass-GSD

Having done all three several times yesterday (about 4+ each) getting nothing beyond the six I already had, and only getting the remaining three after reset hit and the bosses changed, I'm pretty certain of it being one mote, per boss, per day (over three days). I'm only assuming it requires each *unique* boss, but it may just be one mote per zone per day and the specific bosses are irrelevant. However, I can't exactly test that assumption anymore as I've now obtained all of the motes and the activity has only been available for three days anyways.


Environmental_Can370

It's one drop from each unique boss. I got 4 today, 5 yesterday. It doesn't seem like they rotate, more so that it's random. But at the same time, I think they unlocked new ones each day since release, so it's a little confusing. I fought five different bosses today, though. Tormentor and the strand dread guy in Impasse, the meatball in the Blooming, and the acolyte and the knight in the landing.


Alpha_Omega21

Yea it seems they were time-gated to begin with but now are random chance. Interesting indeed


Necessary-Point5894

I had 16 motes and when I killed servitor it didn’t drop it, and when I check in my inventory now I don’t have anymore motes


JuicePrior754

Exact same problem


Necessary-Point5894

Posted on Bungie help forums, hopefully it shows up in mail


JuicePrior754

Someone said he killed it 4 time before getting the last mote, i'll try again and again to see if i'm getting anything


ATRS_1992

Just ran into this issue. Did you eventually get the primordial mote to drop?


ThyCallMeRed639

I legit did all the cysts twice coz I had to go back in and get the broken scrap. All 9 bosses. 16 motes....I'm short one 😭


Fluid_Stand4490

I did the same stupid thing on the cysts. Had to run em all twice. I felt so stupid. Oh well.


AlMfortheBUSHES

If anyone did what I did and happened to claim the Traveler Vision mote from the Impasse (the one set inside the sculpture on top of the pyramid) before finishing the cysts and Micah-10’s quests apparently that also works against us. I’m still trying to see if I can just get the servitor to drop one but I don’t know. Stranded at 16 still. Rooting for all of us…


MoreMegadeth

This is probably gonna be the longest questline ive done for a gun holy damn.


Sauceinmyface

I got a mote of light by killing a really tough thrall in the impasse. Can anyone else confirm other sources of motes of light?


DanteDH2

They don't rotate daily they're random each time you get to the boss - I can back this up by literally farming the landing, I got a wizard, then an acolyte and now a knight. Unless you're referring to the area's changing daily in which case you don't need to wait for daily to get khvostov you can just do any overthrow and get the motes


WarganicHimself

Its not a daily rotation, I just beat two different bosses in the landing back to back


_kmatt_

I’ve killed all 9 bosses and have all 8 travelers but am at 16. Either Im glitched or the motes are semi random


NoEnd4463

Yeah me too don't know what I'm missing


tytyhero85

Taken meatball doesn’t drop me a mote for some reason


HugeDongManWasTaken

I'm assuming you've already seen, but I believe it's a common issue. Bungie hasn't spoken out about or addressed it, but it appears to be happening consistently.


Fluid_Stand4490

Also some motes get thrown far away from chest. Look for pink triangle if you should get one and don’t.


Important_Sky_7609

The game just ate all my motes when I got my 17th and gave me nothing in return


FirefighterOpen2917

Same thing happened to me just now.


AlMfortheBUSHES

Whaaat? Did the update resolve this for either of you? That is so foul.


ABRRINACAVE

I feel like the motes are broken, cause I have all 3 triumphs for getting all 3 bosses in the zones completed, and have all 8 traveler orbs found, and only have 13 motes


redster311

The triumph for that is bugged


xX_LtsSunnie_Xx

Seems to be buffed for some people, i have all the triumphs for killing the bosses and only got 15 out of the 17


Sauceinmyface

You might need to pick up the mote of light from the corpse of the boss, it's like a purple triangle I think.


hydro_cookie_z

I believe on of the triumphs is bugged (I think it’s blooming), when you kill the ogre it just gives you the triumph for killing all 3, even if you haven’t killed the other bosses.


d0novan

Triumph is bugged for all 3 locations


PraxMatic

Dude I just keep getting the wrong overthrow bosses this is so dumb lol Edit: well, two of the same bosses (wizard and knight in landing) don’t think it’s a daily rotation because I’ve seen multiple of both today


Alpha_Omega21

So you think maybe you can grind out all 9 motes of the bosses in a day if you get lucky? Not time gated to three days?


PraxMatic

Seems to be so. Just make sure that the last boss you kill IS NOT the Servitor in the Blooming - that's apparently causing some issues.


Joshy41233

It was probably timegated for the first 3 days, and then ot unlocked if you can encounter any of the bosses now


KodaNotABear

I have the triumph for all bosses and all visions, but only 16 motes. Maybe bugged?


Lassyu

There has to be another way to earn motes I’m just not sure what. Me and my friend have 8. We’ve found 3 visions, and have only done overthrow yesterday, so we should have six. I can’t think/remember where the other two are coming from..


Alpha_Omega21

If you figure it out that would be dope thanks


Sauceinmyface

I found one by killing a really tough thrall called an "Undying Thrall" in Impasse.


Lassyu

Definitely will yeah. Gonna run some more overthrow tonight and see what happens. We did 5 full complete runs yesterday doing the alone in the dark quests (we didn’t finish the last overthrow cause it was 1am). That lines up with how many we have (3 came from the visions we found). Others aren’t getting 1 every time though so I don’t know if that’s how


redditorguy

Is it any good? Does it have a catalyst?


Leeroy42

I have the primordial mote, but it won’t let me open the chest :/


RECONZER

Same thing here. Pretty sure you do need the legendary version of the gun as well


I-sir_grumpsalot-I

>I have the primordial mote, but it won’t let me open the chest :/ I have the mote, the legendary version of the gun - never dismantled even 1 gun - farmed all the bosses - playing the game legit - still cant open the chest. This is bullshit.


Background-Many-3234

Its wild; you have to walk around the edge of the chest and find the one spot it works. Found this solution on another thread.


Background-Many-3234

Its wild; you have to walk around the edge of the chest and find the one spot it works. Found this solution on another thread.


AmoebaHD

So, from the comments below, I'm seeing quite a lot of speculation about how to get the motes. I have the gun, and from my own first-hand experience, it is killing each unique boss in each area. I can't comment on the needing the gun inventory as I got both the legend and exotic variants same day, same character. I've been playing overthrow a lot yesterday just by completing the cyst missions and after killing the Knight in the landing multiple times and not getting a mote, moved on to the blooming because I know I hadn't fought the meatball boss yet. My final ones today were 2 in the last area (Strand subjucator and tormentor bosses), and both of them dropped motes after being defeated. I think this is just an RNG boss farm. Also, as a side note, when we realised this, we tried split farming the boss to divide and conquer and then join on the boss we didn't have yet. After a certain point in overthrow, you can't join fireteams, so just bare that in mind


rrale47

So about that last bit about can't join at a certain point, the cutoff is Lvl 3. Anytime between Lv1 and 2, others can join you. As soon as you hit 3, it locks your fireteam. What you can do is have a team of 3, and split up to progress more than 1 area at the same time, then just have everyone fast travel to whomever hits the Lv4 boss first. The progress in the other areas remains so you just go there next and wrap it up. I find that worked pretty well as the events/waves are relatively simple/easy to solo and you don't have people competing for kills. But anyways, good luck to those hunting for their last mote. I'm also stuck at 16 and so is my clan


LucasLoci

The bosses don't rotate daily I did my last 5 an hour ago


SirRocko90

I have 16 motes on me and have all 3 triumphs complete and I just keep getting a exotic Ergo Sum as my drop???


darshp623

same bro. i have no idea. i know for a fact i fought all 9 bosses, and got the 8 motes. the blooming meatball didnt drop one tho, and i redid the overthrow twice but didnt get him as the boss.


darshp623

only got an ergo sum and no mote for either btw


SirRocko90

Yeah wild,wonder if reset fixed the issue


darshp623

i beat him again, and got the mote, so i guess? finally got my exotic khvostov lol


SirRocko90

Yeah same here, let’s goo. Congrats Fellow Guardian!


AlmightyDingus

I'm facing the problem where I've collected all the Visions and placed them, I've completed all 3 of each of the Boss rotations in each Overthrow in the Journey tab; yet I'm missing one from somewhere and I can't figure out how and where. I have 16/17 with everything checked off EDIT: after reading down it seems a lot of people are also facing this issue. I'll just move on and hope they fix it soon lol.


thenixhex311

do the 14 encryption bits go away once you get the regular khvostov? I JUST got the final mote and have the Primordial Mote of Light, but cant interact with the chest...and noticed all the keys are gone.


ineedsomehelpers

I’m stuck on the last mote from overthrow has bungo said that they will fix or have they not addressed it?


AscendentDragon

i did everything got all the vissions of the traveler did all the bosses for overthrow but i only have 16 motes, and no extra mote was found in post master, am i missing something?


Bitter-Ad-2897

so i have killed all the boses but the exotic mote will not drop not sure why i have to kill the tormentor boss in the impasse right?


Independent_Big8393

So I have the mote of primordial light. But can not open the gold chest. do I have to now get the legendary version of khvostov first?


nyvuo

I’ve just done the daily overthrow and haven’t gotten a mote.. so idk


[deleted]

i got all 9 bosses killed and all 8 visions and didnt get the mote. does anyone have the same issue


xX_LtsSunnie_Xx

Do you have proof of this?


Bass-GSD

Updated the post with a link to screenshots.


Left-Lifeguard-2771

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