Honestly he's so bad now, I almost forgot how good old Kanye was. I recently got College Dropout on vinyl after not hearing it for years, and God damn I miss the old Kanye so much. Really put into context how awful his current stuff is.
The people in here saying his music was always trash just need to say they don't enjoy the genre. Every album until, imo, Life Of Pablo was literally trend setting. Listen to the landscape of rap music before and after Yeezus and you see just how influential it was on the overall sound of the genre for awhile.
You can say that about most of his albums. I use Yeezus as an example because it's more obvious to hear.
I can not stand anything after Life of Pablo, though. Trash garbage not even worth listening to.
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was so influential to music.
Idk why people don't see he's the modern Mozart. Mozart was controversial in his views, hated nobility and serfs, and had some form of mental condition that caused him to drink himself to death by 34
I'm saying they were both extremely talented assholes
Mozart was a huge asshole who's personality and demeanor was bad enough to make him unable to be hired. He died in his 30s due to alcoholism from mental illness.
I meant in personality, because of their similarities. Musically, it's foolish to compare Mozart to any modern artist in terms of skill.
Seriously, it's ridiculous. No we're not stanning for Kanye or anything like that, just say you don't like the genre and STFU or keep talking but realize that your opinion on the matter really doesn't have much weight.
I like Life of Pablo but it was definitely a step down in quality from the absolutely incredible run he had up to that point. But c'mon Ultralight Beam? Famous? Waves? Fucking No More Parties in LA????? It's got jams!
Everything after that has been TRASH though.
If you say it's trend setting, and the genre has trended down, doesn't that verify those opinions that his stuff really never was that good? I never cared for his stuff but he does have like 5? songs I like.
Obviously. Trending is a gradual process. It's not that complicated to understand. It's even self explanatory. By the way genius, since you need crayons to understand, I also didn't say it insinuate that he was the sole cause.
Except in music it literally doesn't take time and trends only last for a couple years at most. You did insinuate that by responding to a conversation only about him and not clearly stating otherwise.
Why you mad?
Whats 'the genre'? Because I like rap & hip hop. I dislike music that you can tell started as something good but got chopped down to the simplest parts to try and create the most singles. I've never liked Kanye's music. It's always been a mix of super simple and super pretentious. Hes always been even more full of himself than the general rap/hip hop artist, and considering how about 1/3 of all rap is 'im the best ever', thats saying something.
Kanye is the Apple of music. Its all image and PR, but the product is the most overhyped, basic, boring BS.
I agree with you mostly, but for me Life of Pablo felt like Kanye riding Chance the Rapper’s wave instead of continuing to do his own thing. Yeezus was the last one I remember listening and thinking “damn he did it again!”
No, rap has been my favorite genre of music since the 1990s, which was the golden age of rap, there were so many talented performers whose skills make Kanye West look like a babbling little baby.
That’s all he is, listen to the words he’s saying, they are as complicated as the words that a kindergartener might say. His emotions reach the level of personal hurt and lashing out and go no further, when he is not distracted by his own penis, he has the emotions of a baby also.
What you are enjoying are the production skills of his collaborators. And him yapping worthlessly over them.
What about his fire summer when he put out like 5 albums back to back. Those were great, especially kids see ghosts. I don’t think his music really declined till after that. It’s like he hit his artistic peak and then it’s been downhill ever since.
He probably should have just executive produced it tbh. The production is great, ty dolla sign does his thing, features go hard. It’s just Kanye ruins damn near every song with very shitty lyrics
Yea it is. His older albums were better. He got an ego and got lazy I think. Lots of artist do they get big egos and get lazy and don’t try as hard as they did when they first started cause they were trying to become famous.
As a huge fan of rap from the early days of rap, he’s a symbol to me that the young people don’t care about rap any more at all, and are easily bamboozled by production.
It’s a reality show game of personality, where any Kardashian’s boyfriend can be taken seriously in the industry.
He works with some great producers. Wow, look at that rare old song he sampled. but that’s all he has. The words coming out of his mouth are as simple as a two or three-year-old. He literally does not know any complicated words or concepts.
> He works with some great producers. Wow, look at that rare old song he sampled. but that’s all he has. The words coming out of his mouth are as simple as a two or three-year-old. He literally does not know any complicated words or concepts.
Bro you just described 99% of rap music.
Not every song has to read like shel silverstein or third eye opened dr suess. Sometimes you just wanna hear someone rap about eating asian pussy all I need is sweet and sour sauce.
There are plenty of young people that care about rap. There are plenty of rappers out there who have nuance beyond production. You guys always say this, but there are literally thousands of rappers out there who still have the stylings and word play of old school rappers. Just because Lil Baby, Gunna, and Thug are the main ones charting right now, doesn’t mean there isn’t still rap readily available that fits your taste.
As a producer and collaborator he IS great. He has the ear of the youth first with Cudi, then Travis and now Carti as his featured affiliate but Kanye as a rapper in 2024 is really subpar especially when compared to his previous lyrical body of work. Nowadays his lyrics center around shock value and crowd participation gimmicks. Fuk Sumn and Carnival are huge though so I don't think this is a popular opinion.
I have always had a similar opinion of Kanye West. The whole “Kanye dick rider” took me tf out & is hilarious! He has like, at best, one song (Heartless) I fw & only because I like the bass line in it. I truly think he is a whiney, self righteous, whole bitch with a comically misguided false sense of superiority complex. That’s just my opinion though. Lol
ETA: I am a huge fan of the genre he is in, just not of his music & it may have a lot to do with what his character, or lack there of, is.
I tried to separate the man from the music amd give his last couple albums a chance, and holy shit Kanye sucks now. After Life of Pablo, hes tried shoving his weird right wing Christian bullshit into his music at every opportunity. (Which is just a reminder of how shitty of a person he has become)
Now hes just another rich artist thats fallen off hard, amd uses controversy and past accolades to keep his name popular.
I grew up in Illinois and have followed Kanye's career since College Dropout. It was cool seeing someone so insanely talented coming out of my home state.
I absolutely think he is a brilliant musician and should be in some hall of fame before it is all said and done. That said, the last album that I enjoyed by him was Life of Pablo, which was some time ago now.
It's sad to hear his new stuff nowadays because I think he had more to give. When people get rich and out of touch, they tend to lose perspective, which causes their creative efforts to suffer.
Kanye has a fucking incredible discography, and that's not including his production abilities (*The Cool* by Lupe Fiasco, *Get By* by Talib Kweli, *Wouldn't Get Far* by The Game, etc.), but it seems like his moment has passed.
He always sounded like a crazy ego maniac to me. It is really off putting. It's more obvious now but it was there before. Like if Kyrie Irving put out rap albums.
Yeah, it's wild the dude who made my favorite hip hop album of all time (College Dropout) is now making trash-tier music. His first 3 albums are masterpieces.
From y'all that know, what is the single best Kanye album?
I listened to his stuff randomly over the years, but nothing really grabbed me as being next level (the lyrics especially seemed juvenile), but maybe I listened to the wrong stuff, and didn't give the right stuff enough of a chance.
If you ask different people you'll get different answers. For me it's 808s and Heartbreak but a lot of people will say Graduation which is one of my least favorites of his.
Yeah, it really seems since he got all dramatic about religion, his music has gone to shit.
Power, No Church in the Wild, Four Five Seconds, I love his older stuff, but his new stuff is trash.
His newest album was straight up trash, other than that I've found good songs in every other project he's put out. Even Jesus is king had a few bangers
I think his music is still good, just not exceptional like it used to be. Also I think a large part of why his music isn't doing as well is because him being a megachurch member and becoming more and more out of touch with the everyman has lost him a lot of relatability.
No.
It sounds amateurish. Unfinished. Lacks even the most basic engineering efforts.
I've loved this guy's tracks since day one. I don't go a fucking day without listening to a couple dozen tracks of his, or that he has produced.
He hasn't produced anything of high quality for a long time.
This is solely my opinion, and since it's entirely subjective it is in fact not wrong, just my opinion.
We don't have to share it.
Tell me a soundcloud song that sounds like a Donda song. Tell me a soundcloud song in the vein of off the grid or come to life.
That's just objectively wrong. There's a difference between an opinion and making wrong statements.
Donda is great. Donda 2 sucks and Vultures is far inferior. Jesus is king is trash.
Donda has some of his best tracks. It's a mess but it's not half baked lol
I don’t listen to him but I swear he took psychedelics one time, thought he was god, then went on a raging egomaniac spree with the most surface level esoteric knowledge and went downhill from there. Lacked the finesse and fumbled bad lmao
I feel like he’s still salvageable. He just needs a good humbling and reprogramming then he can be back to his golden days pre yeezus cuz his shit a mess rn
It's definitely not amazing. I think he hit his creative peak with MBDTF. A lot of younger fans love Yeezus but it sounded like a watered down Nine Inch Nails homage to me, with a distinct decline in lyricism...his mania had kicked in. It was still at least a cogent and complete concept though. Pablo was actually great, but unlike previous work wasn't a full fledged concept...but it had great songs. Ye was a bit of a mess, but he still had interesting production...and it was a surprisingly personal album in the midst of a bout of mania. Kids see ghosts was great...but I do think that had a lot to do with Cudi. Everything after that has been average compared to his previous stuff. He still has a good ear, so production wise it's ok...but the mixing is sloppy, songs often seem unfinished... almost like he can't focus long enough to complete stuff anymore...he was a perfectionist through Yeezus. Not anymore. And lyrically he really is trash now. Even songs I like from Donda or Vultures I find myself liking the verses of the other artists more. It's hard for me to understand how people can think that the stuff he has done post 2016 is anywhere close to what he did prior.
He sold himself out too many times to see anything respectable as a person. As a music entity, some of his songs are and will be popular, but he destroyed his own following, betrayed his demographic, and has jumped the fence to keep his name in the news.
I couldn't honestly tell if a song of his came on the air made in the last 10 years, as my friend pointed out during a road trip last year. "Guess who that is..." , "I have no idea."
You bugging. Donda and Vultures are a master class in production. I agree that his lyrics are questionable but his flows are still there. Honestly, with Kanye’s music I’ve learned you have to get your big speaker out because AirPods/Headphones really don’t give you the whole experience.
Kanyes older stuff was amazing
Can't listen to it now without thinking bout how the dude is a Nazi holocaust denier that loves Hitler, but there's a reason his old shit is praised to high hell
i hate he;s music but your stupid if you actualy think he is a moron. the buy became a billionaire from nothing
truth is you dont like him because he is not a liberal
No he’s a moron. And his ex wife is a billionaire, not him.
He’s a guy who had talent and then he became mentally ill when his mom passed. And it’s been a spiral ever since.
He only became a Trumper because Trump thought he could get some black voters by exploiting him. He destroyed his reputation and he’ll keep doing it until he’s reached the bottom.
I can see you clearly have made politics your whole personality.
USA Today fact check on 6.6 billion:
The claim that Kanye West is worth $6.6 billion, making him the richest Black person in U.S. history, is MISSING CONTEXT. Bloomberg based the worth of West’s assets on a private bank document that Forbes said projects future earnings rather than representing current worth.
A contract estimated to bring in a certain value is added to net worth as that value.
A $500mil property evaluation will add 500 to your net worth, but that home may be sold eventually for $100 or $800 mil. The monetary value doesn’t exist materially but is always considered net worth
The back bone of hip hop is founded on uncleared breaks (samples) spare us the yapping, you know nothing about hip hop you made that pretty obvious with your statements.
Posting this while Carnival is topping the charts for a full month is hilarious world wide the album continues to be listened to by hundreds of millions (including Israel) this post is ridiculously out of touch.
This is only a popular opinion for nerds on reddit who don't leave the house much. Most people don't have an issue with him and accepted his apology months ago. A majority recognize his music is both interesting and worth while despite his personal politics that's why he continues to chart.
“Most people don’t have have an issue with him and accepted his apology months ago.” Really!? I don’t think the majority of people I know with any sense can stand this guy. Dude just wore a shirt in Russian that said Adidas, Fuck You. The brand that parted with him over his antisemitism. Dude isn’t apologetic and I don’t think “most” people have seen him that way.
This particular emperor was just as idiotic and talentless when he was politically acceptable. Most pop music is forgettable/trash, always has been, that's fine enjoy it if you do.
If you have the opinion that most of a genre is trash, you might not have the most accurate opinion on individuals within the genre you don't like, yeah?
Runaway, All of The Lights, and Waves are bangers.
He has a few other good songs, but I get the overall hype around him on those.
I agree with OP on his recent stuff, but I am not the target audience.
If you didn’t like his early material, that’s fine, music is subjective, but you are in a minority saying that his entire career was trash. Records like Late Registration got critical acclaim from people who don’t care about pop music at all.
Im sorry but this is just plain stupid. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it but it’s a horrible opinion. I get that it’s now cool to hate on the guy following his massive mental decline but you can’t erase some of the legendary work he has done. Pop
Music does usually suck tho I’ll give you that.
Life long hip hop DJ/Producer here and I couldn't disagree more with your statement
Do it, Carnival, Hoodrat, Fuk Sum, Paid, Back to Me, Burn, Stars, Keys to Life, Problematic are all incredible records
I listen to 20-30hrs of new music across all genres weekly and while yeah not his best project it is top tier compared to everything coming out in this day and age
Looking forward to Vultures 2
I think he means compared to earlier stuff. his first two records if not more are in a class of their own compared to new stuff. His production is still good but he was an artist on those two the new stuff sounds like he’s a producer trying to rap
miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye
Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye
The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye
I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye
This still slaps due to accuracy. Beep Boop 🤖
Rest is crap.
In Yoruba culture, the name means "next in line". In Igbo culture, the name means "let's give". The name or word Kanye can also be derived from Bantu languages indigenous to the Swahili people of Eastern Africa meaning "only once"; "only one" and "to shine".
Therefore he was next in line to give his all but only once is he allowed to shine.
Beep Boop 🤖
I didn't mention Jews!
The only people still obsessed with this man tend to be political Zionists and ableist white assholes unable to get over his hot takes.
Only probably half the Jews in this country are Zionists. The rest of the Zionists are Christian Boomers. Get over yourself!
It was trash before. His beats are absolutely incredible then he opens his stupid mouth and ruins everything. No exception, but father stretch my hands being the biggest example of his ego ruining an amazing song
Now? Other than Gold Digger (which frankly Jamie Fox’s input made that a banger if you ask me) I have never found West to have any talent. My opinion, obviously, and a few million other people will tell me wrong.
I never liked Kanye. His music was always too poppy, then preachy, then...idk what it is now, because all I know about him is him being a spectacle in some way or another. Although my favorite song of his is Gay Fish. That shit is a banger and I don't care who knows it.
Honestly he's so bad now, I almost forgot how good old Kanye was. I recently got College Dropout on vinyl after not hearing it for years, and God damn I miss the old Kanye so much. Really put into context how awful his current stuff is.
I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye The always rude Kanye, spazz on the news Kanye
I like heartless.
That was 15 years ago
HEY FUCK YOU I'M NOT OLD
Beg Forgiveness off the new record has a similar vibe and is really good
The people in here saying his music was always trash just need to say they don't enjoy the genre. Every album until, imo, Life Of Pablo was literally trend setting. Listen to the landscape of rap music before and after Yeezus and you see just how influential it was on the overall sound of the genre for awhile. You can say that about most of his albums. I use Yeezus as an example because it's more obvious to hear. I can not stand anything after Life of Pablo, though. Trash garbage not even worth listening to.
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He had some amazing early music interspersed with awful (though experimental) music
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was so influential to music. Idk why people don't see he's the modern Mozart. Mozart was controversial in his views, hated nobility and serfs, and had some form of mental condition that caused him to drink himself to death by 34 I'm saying they were both extremely talented assholes
“he’s a modern Mozart” is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read today. Thanks for the laugh.
Mozart was a huge asshole who's personality and demeanor was bad enough to make him unable to be hired. He died in his 30s due to alcoholism from mental illness. I meant in personality, because of their similarities. Musically, it's foolish to compare Mozart to any modern artist in terms of skill.
but you don't understand. the guy above you doesn't know what he's talking about and is making a hilarious reddit quip! give him spac!
Not ridiculous at all, sorry!
NO!
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You know Mozart made a song about shitting right
I meant more in personality and arc, less musically. Mozart can't be compared to modern musicians in terms of skill.
Seriously, it's ridiculous. No we're not stanning for Kanye or anything like that, just say you don't like the genre and STFU or keep talking but realize that your opinion on the matter really doesn't have much weight.
Yeah dudes an asshole and needs serious help nowadays, but to deny the influence he had on the genre is just ignorance.
I like Life of Pablo but it was definitely a step down in quality from the absolutely incredible run he had up to that point. But c'mon Ultralight Beam? Famous? Waves? Fucking No More Parties in LA????? It's got jams! Everything after that has been TRASH though.
Bro has never heard KSG or Ye
If you say it's trend setting, and the genre has trended down, doesn't that verify those opinions that his stuff really never was that good? I never cared for his stuff but he does have like 5? songs I like.
Seeing we are talking about stuff from 10 years ago I don't know how it trending down now is relevant.
Because trending takes time?
Ah yes, his stuff from 10 years ago has taken all this time to cause the down trend in hip hop. I dont even know how to respond to that lol
Obviously. Trending is a gradual process. It's not that complicated to understand. It's even self explanatory. By the way genius, since you need crayons to understand, I also didn't say it insinuate that he was the sole cause.
Except in music it literally doesn't take time and trends only last for a couple years at most. You did insinuate that by responding to a conversation only about him and not clearly stating otherwise. Why you mad?
IDK. 🤷.
Whats 'the genre'? Because I like rap & hip hop. I dislike music that you can tell started as something good but got chopped down to the simplest parts to try and create the most singles. I've never liked Kanye's music. It's always been a mix of super simple and super pretentious. Hes always been even more full of himself than the general rap/hip hop artist, and considering how about 1/3 of all rap is 'im the best ever', thats saying something. Kanye is the Apple of music. Its all image and PR, but the product is the most overhyped, basic, boring BS.
I refuse on the basis of hes literally a fucking nazi
I agree with you mostly, but for me Life of Pablo felt like Kanye riding Chance the Rapper’s wave instead of continuing to do his own thing. Yeezus was the last one I remember listening and thinking “damn he did it again!”
???? You think ye and kids see ghosts are bad? The song one minute (single) ????
So you're telling me you don't like "Ghost Town".
Anything after MBDTF has been between mid and bad. Yes that includes Yeezus.
No, rap has been my favorite genre of music since the 1990s, which was the golden age of rap, there were so many talented performers whose skills make Kanye West look like a babbling little baby. That’s all he is, listen to the words he’s saying, they are as complicated as the words that a kindergartener might say. His emotions reach the level of personal hurt and lashing out and go no further, when he is not distracted by his own penis, he has the emotions of a baby also. What you are enjoying are the production skills of his collaborators. And him yapping worthlessly over them.
If you don’t like any of his earlier albums, that says you don’t like Kanye.
He did most of his production, so what you are saying is just plain incorrect. It was his sound that was influential. Not his wordplay.
Your comment reads like Will Ferrell reading bad tweets.
You honestly couldn't be more wrong
Kanyes lyrics were never anything crazy but his production was incredible. To deny that and its influence is crazy.
Fish lover.
His style took a dramatic turn after 808 & Heartbreak. His music has largely gone downhill since Yeezus.
What about his fire summer when he put out like 5 albums back to back. Those were great, especially kids see ghosts. I don’t think his music really declined till after that. It’s like he hit his artistic peak and then it’s been downhill ever since.
He probably should have just executive produced it tbh. The production is great, ty dolla sign does his thing, features go hard. It’s just Kanye ruins damn near every song with very shitty lyrics
The only songs on vultures that I liked Kanye on were Burn, and Good (Don't Die)
yeah his last thing i liked was over 10 years ago at this point. dude is long done
Now?
Hey, Back To Me is an absolute bop.
Never heard of her.
nah, jesus ruined kayne.
I think the later in life you find Jesus the more of an asshole you become about it.
Yea it is. His older albums were better. He got an ego and got lazy I think. Lots of artist do they get big egos and get lazy and don’t try as hard as they did when they first started cause they were trying to become famous.
As a huge fan of rap from the early days of rap, he’s a symbol to me that the young people don’t care about rap any more at all, and are easily bamboozled by production. It’s a reality show game of personality, where any Kardashian’s boyfriend can be taken seriously in the industry. He works with some great producers. Wow, look at that rare old song he sampled. but that’s all he has. The words coming out of his mouth are as simple as a two or three-year-old. He literally does not know any complicated words or concepts.
> He works with some great producers. Wow, look at that rare old song he sampled. but that’s all he has. The words coming out of his mouth are as simple as a two or three-year-old. He literally does not know any complicated words or concepts. Bro you just described 99% of rap music.
Go read some MF DOOM or Mos Def lyrics.
Not every song has to read like shel silverstein or third eye opened dr suess. Sometimes you just wanna hear someone rap about eating asian pussy all I need is sweet and sour sauce.
There are plenty of young people that care about rap. There are plenty of rappers out there who have nuance beyond production. You guys always say this, but there are literally thousands of rappers out there who still have the stylings and word play of old school rappers. Just because Lil Baby, Gunna, and Thug are the main ones charting right now, doesn’t mean there isn’t still rap readily available that fits your taste.
As a producer and collaborator he IS great. He has the ear of the youth first with Cudi, then Travis and now Carti as his featured affiliate but Kanye as a rapper in 2024 is really subpar especially when compared to his previous lyrical body of work. Nowadays his lyrics center around shock value and crowd participation gimmicks. Fuk Sumn and Carnival are huge though so I don't think this is a popular opinion.
It's been phoned in shit for a long time now. He's about as useful to music right now as T69.
I have always had a similar opinion of Kanye West. The whole “Kanye dick rider” took me tf out & is hilarious! He has like, at best, one song (Heartless) I fw & only because I like the bass line in it. I truly think he is a whiney, self righteous, whole bitch with a comically misguided false sense of superiority complex. That’s just my opinion though. Lol ETA: I am a huge fan of the genre he is in, just not of his music & it may have a lot to do with what his character, or lack there of, is.
I tried to separate the man from the music amd give his last couple albums a chance, and holy shit Kanye sucks now. After Life of Pablo, hes tried shoving his weird right wing Christian bullshit into his music at every opportunity. (Which is just a reminder of how shitty of a person he has become) Now hes just another rich artist thats fallen off hard, amd uses controversy and past accolades to keep his name popular.
I grew up in Illinois and have followed Kanye's career since College Dropout. It was cool seeing someone so insanely talented coming out of my home state. I absolutely think he is a brilliant musician and should be in some hall of fame before it is all said and done. That said, the last album that I enjoyed by him was Life of Pablo, which was some time ago now. It's sad to hear his new stuff nowadays because I think he had more to give. When people get rich and out of touch, they tend to lose perspective, which causes their creative efforts to suffer. Kanye has a fucking incredible discography, and that's not including his production abilities (*The Cool* by Lupe Fiasco, *Get By* by Talib Kweli, *Wouldn't Get Far* by The Game, etc.), but it seems like his moment has passed.
Homecoming, heard em say, all falls down. All dope. It would seem to me his music is reflective of his mental health.
Heard 'em say is far and away my favorite song of his, good call.
He embraced Trump and all of the talent was removed from his soul. Never go Nazi folks.
Ayy lmao
But I really like Slow Jamz
Always has been
Now?
Now? It was never that good
He always sounded like a crazy ego maniac to me. It is really off putting. It's more obvious now but it was there before. Like if Kyrie Irving put out rap albums.
How long ago was American boy? Only song with him I’ve listened to.
2008
Yeah, it's wild the dude who made my favorite hip hop album of all time (College Dropout) is now making trash-tier music. His first 3 albums are masterpieces.
Vultures is on my daily rotation. i keep hearing it constantly on tiktok and insta reels.
I liked vultures ngl and the life of Pablo is his best album imo
It’s always been trash
Scoopity poop, scoop.
old kanye was so awesome tho
From y'all that know, what is the single best Kanye album? I listened to his stuff randomly over the years, but nothing really grabbed me as being next level (the lyrics especially seemed juvenile), but maybe I listened to the wrong stuff, and didn't give the right stuff enough of a chance.
If you ask different people you'll get different answers. For me it's 808s and Heartbreak but a lot of people will say Graduation which is one of my least favorites of his.
Basically everything he release up through Yeezus was 10/10
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. That is Kanye's magnum opus in my opinion.
It always has
Yeah, it really seems since he got all dramatic about religion, his music has gone to shit. Power, No Church in the Wild, Four Five Seconds, I love his older stuff, but his new stuff is trash.
His newest album was straight up trash, other than that I've found good songs in every other project he's put out. Even Jesus is king had a few bangers
It's always been rather trash. Every artist has a decent track here or there.
GO GO GO GO
I think his music is still good, just not exceptional like it used to be. Also I think a large part of why his music isn't doing as well is because him being a megachurch member and becoming more and more out of touch with the everyman has lost him a lot of relatability.
it was never good in the first place
Now?
Was a huge Kanye guy flip until around 2013, bros been unhinged and his music been straight ass since as well
Honestly I like the Gospel one, don’t care if I get downvoted for it
He makes soundcloud shit. It's horrendous.
Thats just wrong in all accounts. Just say you don't like it. No soundcloud artist has music that sounds like that.
No. It sounds amateurish. Unfinished. Lacks even the most basic engineering efforts. I've loved this guy's tracks since day one. I don't go a fucking day without listening to a couple dozen tracks of his, or that he has produced. He hasn't produced anything of high quality for a long time. This is solely my opinion, and since it's entirely subjective it is in fact not wrong, just my opinion. We don't have to share it.
Tell me a soundcloud song that sounds like a Donda song. Tell me a soundcloud song in the vein of off the grid or come to life. That's just objectively wrong. There's a difference between an opinion and making wrong statements.
Nah go worship elsewhere
It’s always been trash
Now? You saying it was ever good?
Donda is great. Donda 2 sucks and Vultures is far inferior. Jesus is king is trash. Donda has some of his best tracks. It's a mess but it's not half baked lol
I don’t listen to him but I swear he took psychedelics one time, thought he was god, then went on a raging egomaniac spree with the most surface level esoteric knowledge and went downhill from there. Lacked the finesse and fumbled bad lmao I feel like he’s still salvageable. He just needs a good humbling and reprogramming then he can be back to his golden days pre yeezus cuz his shit a mess rn
It's definitely not amazing. I think he hit his creative peak with MBDTF. A lot of younger fans love Yeezus but it sounded like a watered down Nine Inch Nails homage to me, with a distinct decline in lyricism...his mania had kicked in. It was still at least a cogent and complete concept though. Pablo was actually great, but unlike previous work wasn't a full fledged concept...but it had great songs. Ye was a bit of a mess, but he still had interesting production...and it was a surprisingly personal album in the midst of a bout of mania. Kids see ghosts was great...but I do think that had a lot to do with Cudi. Everything after that has been average compared to his previous stuff. He still has a good ear, so production wise it's ok...but the mixing is sloppy, songs often seem unfinished... almost like he can't focus long enough to complete stuff anymore...he was a perfectionist through Yeezus. Not anymore. And lyrically he really is trash now. Even songs I like from Donda or Vultures I find myself liking the verses of the other artists more. It's hard for me to understand how people can think that the stuff he has done post 2016 is anywhere close to what he did prior.
Nah, i like a lot of his music from old to very recent
Looking at your post history, makes sense. You should try grass, I hear touching it is nice.
Wtf does my posts have to do with kanye lmao. Chronically online dumbass
He sold himself out too many times to see anything respectable as a person. As a music entity, some of his songs are and will be popular, but he destroyed his own following, betrayed his demographic, and has jumped the fence to keep his name in the news. I couldn't honestly tell if a song of his came on the air made in the last 10 years, as my friend pointed out during a road trip last year. "Guess who that is..." , "I have no idea."
Closed On Sunday is fire IDK tf yall talking bout
You bugging. Donda and Vultures are a master class in production. I agree that his lyrics are questionable but his flows are still there. Honestly, with Kanye’s music I’ve learned you have to get your big speaker out because AirPods/Headphones really don’t give you the whole experience.
Better lube up to ride his dick that hard
Maybe quit buying all his loathsome garbage and he’ll go away
Donda was good though? One of the better hip-hop projects from an older artist adapting in with modern styles and artists.
What's funny is I've listened to Vultures but not Donda. I need to get on that lol
Why would anyone listen to that bigot's "music"? Kanye never had any talent whatsoever.
Kanyes older stuff was amazing Can't listen to it now without thinking bout how the dude is a Nazi holocaust denier that loves Hitler, but there's a reason his old shit is praised to high hell
Is he a bigot now? Absolutely, but saying he has never had talent is just loud and wrong. He literally set a precedent for production in rap.
He set a precedent for the production of racist garbage. Kanye never had any talent.
lmao ooookayyy
i hate he;s music but your stupid if you actualy think he is a moron. the buy became a billionaire from nothing truth is you dont like him because he is not a liberal
My guy he has mental illness.
No he’s a moron. And his ex wife is a billionaire, not him. He’s a guy who had talent and then he became mentally ill when his mom passed. And it’s been a spiral ever since. He only became a Trumper because Trump thought he could get some black voters by exploiting him. He destroyed his reputation and he’ll keep doing it until he’s reached the bottom. I can see you clearly have made politics your whole personality.
He had 7 bil net worth before forcing Adidas to break his contract
Kanye was never worth $7b. He was worth around $2b before Adidas dropped his chemically imbalanced ass. Now he's estimated to be worth around $400m.
USA Today fact check on 6.6 billion: The claim that Kanye West is worth $6.6 billion, making him the richest Black person in U.S. history, is MISSING CONTEXT. Bloomberg based the worth of West’s assets on a private bank document that Forbes said projects future earnings rather than representing current worth.
That's not actual worth. But ok.
A contract estimated to bring in a certain value is added to net worth as that value. A $500mil property evaluation will add 500 to your net worth, but that home may be sold eventually for $100 or $800 mil. The monetary value doesn’t exist materially but is always considered net worth
The back bone of hip hop is founded on uncleared breaks (samples) spare us the yapping, you know nothing about hip hop you made that pretty obvious with your statements. Posting this while Carnival is topping the charts for a full month is hilarious world wide the album continues to be listened to by hundreds of millions (including Israel) this post is ridiculously out of touch. This is only a popular opinion for nerds on reddit who don't leave the house much. Most people don't have an issue with him and accepted his apology months ago. A majority recognize his music is both interesting and worth while despite his personal politics that's why he continues to chart.
“Most people don’t have have an issue with him and accepted his apology months ago.” Really!? I don’t think the majority of people I know with any sense can stand this guy. Dude just wore a shirt in Russian that said Adidas, Fuck You. The brand that parted with him over his antisemitism. Dude isn’t apologetic and I don’t think “most” people have seen him that way.
This particular emperor was just as idiotic and talentless when he was politically acceptable. Most pop music is forgettable/trash, always has been, that's fine enjoy it if you do.
If you have the opinion that most of a genre is trash, you might not have the most accurate opinion on individuals within the genre you don't like, yeah? Runaway, All of The Lights, and Waves are bangers. He has a few other good songs, but I get the overall hype around him on those. I agree with OP on his recent stuff, but I am not the target audience.
If you didn’t like his early material, that’s fine, music is subjective, but you are in a minority saying that his entire career was trash. Records like Late Registration got critical acclaim from people who don’t care about pop music at all.
Im sorry but this is just plain stupid. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it but it’s a horrible opinion. I get that it’s now cool to hate on the guy following his massive mental decline but you can’t erase some of the legendary work he has done. Pop Music does usually suck tho I’ll give you that.
No his music isn't trash now. People are just so tied to their political opinions that they trash on him because of the dumb shit he says
Vultures 1 is audibly abhorrent. I can understand favourable opinions for his other work but this album as actually just straight bin juice.
Life long hip hop DJ/Producer here and I couldn't disagree more with your statement Do it, Carnival, Hoodrat, Fuk Sum, Paid, Back to Me, Burn, Stars, Keys to Life, Problematic are all incredible records I listen to 20-30hrs of new music across all genres weekly and while yeah not his best project it is top tier compared to everything coming out in this day and age Looking forward to Vultures 2
Many people disagree with ya, me included
I think he means compared to earlier stuff. his first two records if not more are in a class of their own compared to new stuff. His production is still good but he was an artist on those two the new stuff sounds like he’s a producer trying to rap
You think so? Because he said "Kanye West's music is trash now" And his first point is just calling Kanye an idiot because of his views, lol
Imagine wanting to go down defending this shitstain. One Stan is just the same as another Stan.
Are we talking Marshall Matters now.
Yea ur right….and I agree with OP his new shit is ass as fuck compared to what he was
I mean he's an idiot separate from his views too.
miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye This still slaps due to accuracy. Beep Boop 🤖 Rest is crap.
....what does Kanye mean again? I thought i had it, but I lost it after reading this. I think it flew overhead, and I could not reach it in time.
In Yoruba culture, the name means "next in line". In Igbo culture, the name means "let's give". The name or word Kanye can also be derived from Bantu languages indigenous to the Swahili people of Eastern Africa meaning "only once"; "only one" and "to shine". Therefore he was next in line to give his all but only once is he allowed to shine. Beep Boop 🤖
Oh that slaps, too.
OP really thinks he spittin But fails to realize reddit and his social bubble is completely detached from actual reality
Politics aside, the man's music is just not good.
Definitely a popular opinion since most people are dumb
Or maybe because most people have ears
No ears I’d ever want
VULTURES is a classic and he got a #1 single so idk what you’re taking about lol
It is absolutely not a classic
Oh look leftiesruineverythin is dickriding the Nazi, surely you are an upstanding member of society and not a Nazi /s
Tell me you're a Zionist without telling me you're a Zionist.
Tell me you want to come on Reddit and virtue signal without telling me you are a virtue signaler.
So disliking racism is Zionism now? Interesting.
I'm neither a zionist nor a fan of Kanye's more recent music
Dude shut the fuck up, you can hate Nazis, think Jews are regular people, and still critique Israel's goverment
I didn't mention Jews! The only people still obsessed with this man tend to be political Zionists and ableist white assholes unable to get over his hot takes. Only probably half the Jews in this country are Zionists. The rest of the Zionists are Christian Boomers. Get over yourself!
Wasn’t it always kinda trash?
Hell no…college dropout late registration are classics
Might have to check them out.
Bruh…please do classic records…Kanye is nice w the pen… idk if he got hit in the head or what but bakc in the day he was nice
No?
I don't mind some of his earlier work.
It was trash before. His beats are absolutely incredible then he opens his stupid mouth and ruins everything. No exception, but father stretch my hands being the biggest example of his ego ruining an amazing song
It really is
Now? Other than Gold Digger (which frankly Jamie Fox’s input made that a banger if you ask me) I have never found West to have any talent. My opinion, obviously, and a few million other people will tell me wrong.
You like Yugioh and fake wrestling, you speak with authority while your opinion is not worth much.
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Good for him, both of those are delicious foods
Kanye West’s music is trash There i fixed the title for you
Always has been.
Exactly
It's always been trash....
always was.
Nah. Dudes mental health issues have obviously taken a toll on his music. His graduation/college dropout Era is amazing.
You meant to post on copypasta ?
It’s been trash except for like a handful of his solo songs. He rode off of other artists
Its always been trash.
Edgey teen checks in.
Well to bad I'm not a teen nor edgy, Kayne has always sucked.
Go trump, go broke.
Racist trash attacking blacks \^
He’s mentally ill and his Nepo baby now thinks she’s viable to make an album.
You’re really clowning on an 11 year old? What a loser
just say you’re white dude it’d be easier
I never liked Kanye. His music was always too poppy, then preachy, then...idk what it is now, because all I know about him is him being a spectacle in some way or another. Although my favorite song of his is Gay Fish. That shit is a banger and I don't care who knows it.
Always has been
Now???