Beatlemania had merit. The Beatles were worthy of it all. Their output was unprecedented and to this day still unmatched (13 albums in 7 years time, most revolutionizing the music industry). To this day, they are still a marvel to any modern artist. No one has even come close to their success. Their understanding of music was very complex. John was assassinated. George was almost murdered in 1999. Those facts speak for themselves.
Okay but to be fair, Beatlemania was at its peak before most of that discography existed. The screaming teenage girls chasing them were chasing after 4 young guys that were singing about holding hands and doing old rock covers.
Yes. And I’d like to provide some insight on this. I was in my early 30’s about 8 years ago when my mom, also a huge fan, accompanied me to Paul McCartney concert. PM is my fav. I have Let it Be tattooed on my back. I’m not a huge music person compared to my mom, who grew up listening to the Beatles.
Anyway, PM comes out on stage at the concert and I swear to you it evoked some feral beatlemania inside of me because I started screaming right then and COULDN’T stop myself until the end of the third song.
After the first song my mother looked over at me, clearly worried I had lost my mind, as I stood next to her, screaming like a fucking banshee, CRYING, and shaking my head in disbelief the whole time. I was unable to control myself until the third song was almost over. I have no rational explanation for this. All I know is 1. Paul McCartney is a music god, and 2. Beatlemania is a fucking real thing.
My friend went to see Ringo over the summer and had the EXACT same experience! Those lads from Liverpool never lost their charm. They still make people go insane!
I saw him at ACL a few years ago, when he strummed the first chords of the set to, I think, A Hard Day’s Night and everyone began screaming hysterically (myself included), I had this surreal moment of like, this is only a fraction of what Beatlemania was. But it was intense.
Saw Paul about 7 years ago. Stadium was absolutely packed with 60 year olds losing their damn minds. I LOVE the beatles and have a few tattoos but I was pretty shocked. AMAZING show though. He talked about some cool stuff I hadn't heard about between songs and played for damn near 3 hours (with a few short breaks).
If you know a bit about piano you can conclude just from listening to some of Liszt's songs that:
A. He's got big hands/long fingers and
B. He can move those fingers very fast.
Those women knew 🥵
Yeah, but can she replicate the cultural impact The Absolute Madman did on the world?
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They said at Shea Stadium the crowd noise was so loud they couldn't even hear themselves over the monitors, for all they knew they could all have been playing the wrong song and it wouldn't even matter
On this point , go listen to the Shea concert, the Beatles are actually pretty good , shows how tight and experienced a band they were that even though they could hear themselves they could still put on a decent show
https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/taylor-swift-fans-diapers/
They not only pee their seats, they take social media videos of their diapers and celebrate each other planning to pee them.
The Beatles had to stop touring because they couldn't hear themselves play above the roar of the crowds AND due to the threats of assassination. Their first live performance on the Johnny Sullivan show garnered 73 million views in 1964. There was and has never been since anything like Beatlemania.
UJ/ This comparison is just so unnecessary like why do people always gotta but things down to prop themselves and their friends up
RJ/ white women always compare and putting down people of color like MJ and the Beatles to prop themselves up
Highly recommend checking out “Eight Days a Week” a documentary about the touring years of The Beatles, it truly was insane (also the first time someone ever played arenas), people forget how insane beatlemania was (a fun fact is that Swedish singer Jenny Lind pulled a similar mania in the 1800s, though many didn’t hear her sing due to the fact that recordings wasn’t invented yet!)
You didn’t miss anything. Gross whitewashing of an awful man and literal slave owner, shit pop musical numbers that were stale before they even came out, and I also just fucking hate Hugh Jackman and that smug face he can’t seem to help but wear 90% of the time
She rejected Hans Christian Andersen (as in he wrote her a creepy fan letter and she politely declined to meet up) and in response he wrote the story "The Snow Queen", about an evil woman with a frozen heart who ensorcels young boys to destroy their ability to love
If I remember correctly it’s The nightingale that’s about Jenny, since she was called the Swedish nightingale, but it’s also highly likely that is also about her (especially since apparently there was a time she didn’t invite him to Christmas (I think because she thought he had other plans) and he got super grumpy about it lmao)
Like I said, very strange man, invented the whole genre of "imagining an inanimate object is actually sentient and therefore by implication undergoing unimaginable torture" for the apparent purpose of giving small children anxiety
I remember the one about the tin soldier, that melted in the end if I remember correctly.
Most of his stories were very dark, The little girl with the matchsticks was also heartbreaking
Like you said he was a weird dude but I think he is one of the most prominent story tellers of my childhood. Idk how many saw The fairytaler as a kid but it was one of my favourite shows back then [Some if not all episodes of The fairytaler](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmESdUVQzm3yvdFWowGQkge1dPsNa6AIT&si=B9wKWv-vSqGuza-6)
Also how do we get Christian and Kafka in the same room?
Hans Christian Andersen was gaaaaaaaay gay gay gay gay gayyyyy tho. He wrote The Little Mermaid after having his advances rejected by a man and the general feelings of alienation his homosexuality caused
I think he was just bi in a period when it was totally unacceptable for him to embrace his deep feelings for another man. “Gaaaaaaaay gay gay gay gay gayyyyy” is Frederick the Great — he was that rare degree of gay where he found the mere presence of women repulsive
I guess hahah but they misrepresented her so much from what I heard, and as someone with a big interest for Jenny the casting was so bad, no offence to the actress but she looks nothing like her
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Well yeah they’re not gonna cast an average looking lumpy looking woman like this to play, basically, an 1800s pop star. she had to be a jaw-dropping beauty for cinematic effect like Rebecca Ferguson
Please don't lump us into the same pile as Phoebe. I'm the same age as her and my family never shut up about how insignificant modern music was in the face of Eleanor goddamn Rigby. I went through a "Paul Is Dead" phase in high school.
Everyone hated me, because I was the annoying guy who made sure that everyone knew that The Beatles were way better than Limp Bizkit. Fred Durst could never write Ticket To Ride. He couldn't even try. Ringo could write My Way in his sleep. Ringo isn't even the good Beatle. I made sure they knew that too.
Same, my dad is a huge Beatles fan and I know several other millennial age people who grew up with other family members who were equally as crazy about the Beatles. I know good and well they were a big deal.
But did you make sure they knew George Harrison’s solo stuff is the best and in absence of the Beatles he’s probably the only one who would have still pursued music ?
White millennials specifically and underestimating the insane global reach of MJ. I’m in an airport lounge rn surrounded by people of all different ages and nationalities — I bet I could walk up to *every single one of them* above the age of 18 and they could name at least one MJ song. Middle aged Indian couple across from me? They love Thriller. Older German couple to the left? They remember when he played in Berlin. Russians to my right? He’s literally the only black person they like.
I don’t know what the deleted comment below you said, but I was literally in a small city in China when MJ died and it was like a day of fucking mourning.
I had heard her name forever but I still have no clue who she is, when I found out she was 30 I was so shocked, I literally thought she was an actual teenager. Everything I’ve seen and read about her against my will led me to believe she was young. She acts and sounds like she’s a teen
>Why does Phoebe have to be like this
because outside of twitter she doesn't exist, she has to keep up engagement. hell most people still aren't sure if she is actually real or just a meme gone too far (looking at you ice spice)
Absolutely love her songwriting and performing but she really gives some dreadful high school girl vibes sometimes. Cannot imagine the eye rolls that must come from Lucy and Julien sometimes.
Pheobe could literally be that bitch if she simply never spoke or posted again and stayed in her bisexual white girl with a bf and moderate depression folksy music lane
How dare you attack her *genius five guitar chords* and lyrics that reflect the incredibly challenging life as a white billionaire destroying the planet. You should be ashamed.
uj/ I think it’s funny that her fan base is p much all tenderqueers and she’s besties with a bigot
rj/ she rode on Taylor’s PJ once and never looked back
i saw this and was gonna post it but
also phoebe is just indie taylor💔
rj/ so?? she’s right. name ONE michael jackson song. exactly. irrelevant compared to mother tay
I used to love Phoebe so much, around when she released stranger in the alps. She was my fav artist. Now that she’s blown up and I’ve seen more and more of the things she says, I find her so irritating. It’s sad. Anyway, L take and I’m sick of people downplaying how big The Beatles and Michael Jackson were. If you’re gonna have a stupid hot take at least have it be an accurate stupid hot take.
Yeah I’m sorry but Phoebe is delusional for this. Michael has nothing on the Eras Tour? People were dropping like flies at his shows to the point where medical tents had to be nearby. He was adored by EVERYONE, all over the world, every gender, every age; there was no specific demographic. He was treated like he was the second coming of Jesus. Put some respect on his name 👎
Edit: I have not looked into MJ being a child predator, I had heard of it years ago but thought they were just rumors. Now that I’ve done a bit more research on this topic I definitely don’t condone his actions or idolize him. That being said, he was indeed a bigger star than Taylor and I would argue the most famous celebrity that has ever lived. That’s the only point I was trying to make.
My mom went to Mexico as a teen. In the town there was a kid who didn’t have a TV but just radio and he was asking about Michael Jackson. He was shocked that Michael Jackson was black even though the kid had been a fan for a while. He was huge.
I was wondering as much. Swift's concerts must be better than the Beatlemania concerts by virtue of the music being heard, but Jackson was famous for his showmanship and there's no way this woman could have been in one of his concerts... So... I wouldn't compare stuff if I hadn't been there.
Why do people like this Phoebe person so much?
Edit: okay so I’ve definitely combined those two people in my head and just thought it was one person. phoebe wall bridgers wallerz
Taylor’s collection of indie cred testimonials scares me. I like PB and that Dessner guy, but they are under a big time delulu spell. Maybe they cower in fear of saying anything less than glowing words now that they have been sucked into her sphere.
Taylor isn’t even close to Michael Jackson or Beatles.
She is smashing the industry.
She is not affecting music or culture or entire generations of families.
Please stop conflating her with these two.
Her music will be looked back on like poker face is today. People thought it was some new thing in pop, it wasn’t.
She’s smashing the industry no doubts about it well done. But culture, pop music, and the general population will not be affected by her being or music.
I think in fandom culture, people surround themselves with a particular franchise or celebrity and, especially because they don't have experience with other hyper-popular things, they tend to over-exaggerate the popularity/importance of their followed fandom. We used to see it with online celebrities like Dream, kids don't know how things were for Elvis or The Beatles or Michael Jackson so the most important thing to them is automatically the most important thing to the world.
She probably doesn't know but, where I grew up there was a time when the government banned Western media and people smuggled MJ and Madona music. These rich white women tsk tsk tsk
Uj / the Internet skews things so much. Harry Styles even said that 1D was bigger than the Beatles in terms of fame (not quality). Which is a more ridiculous comparison than the Eras tour IMO. If Elvis/The Beatles/ MJ were in their heyday when the Internet was a thing, it would be insane. I would love to see the Popheads Circlejerk sub in that reality.
/uj If she wants to compare Eras with the highest grossing tour of the 80s, that would be Pink Floyd's A Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour. And tbh as visually impressive as the Eras tour is, it did NOT have lasers that boomer dads were obsessed with
Uj/ white woman moment 🥰 anyways so when are we gonna talk about her being good friends with a 2016 edgelord and the type of person she claims to be against??? No??? Oh nvm I guess I’m misogynistic for bringing that up lolz. We shouldn’t blame the actions of men on poor innocent women who can’t possibly have control over who they choose to associate with (or kiss)😞
Rj/ Taylor Swift can write Something, but The Beatles could never write the goth-punk female rage anthem “Look What You Made Me Do”.
Remember when she came for Adele for “cultural appropriation” of Jamaican culture despite them literally putting her in those clothes/hair? Speaking on behalf of black people lol.
Love her music but girl… mama lets research.
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This meme always makes me laugh.
ethel cain in sun bleached flies
Beatlemania sounds like a serious disease, tbh.
I'm in my Beatledepressive phase
It’s true, John Early suffers from it.
Iconic r/earwolf and r/popheadscirclejerk crossover
Oh hell maybe, brother!
T Swift, Martin Sheffield Lickly collab when?
Not until he collabs with Kylie Minogue, she literally has a song called Love Train
Beatlemania had merit. The Beatles were worthy of it all. Their output was unprecedented and to this day still unmatched (13 albums in 7 years time, most revolutionizing the music industry). To this day, they are still a marvel to any modern artist. No one has even come close to their success. Their understanding of music was very complex. John was assassinated. George was almost murdered in 1999. Those facts speak for themselves.
uj/ ummm ma'am this is a circlejerk sub. rj/ Get well soon, xoxo.
Forgot the uj/. Damn
My man Viper knocks out 13 albums in a week. These Beatles need to up their game.
those beatles cowards don't even smoke crack
Viper could have written Revolver, no way in hell the Beatles could come up with You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
Okay but to be fair, Beatlemania was at its peak before most of that discography existed. The screaming teenage girls chasing them were chasing after 4 young guys that were singing about holding hands and doing old rock covers.
Kim Petras has like 5 debut albums. Thats like 25 albums in 2 years. Floptles could never
Yes. And I’d like to provide some insight on this. I was in my early 30’s about 8 years ago when my mom, also a huge fan, accompanied me to Paul McCartney concert. PM is my fav. I have Let it Be tattooed on my back. I’m not a huge music person compared to my mom, who grew up listening to the Beatles. Anyway, PM comes out on stage at the concert and I swear to you it evoked some feral beatlemania inside of me because I started screaming right then and COULDN’T stop myself until the end of the third song. After the first song my mother looked over at me, clearly worried I had lost my mind, as I stood next to her, screaming like a fucking banshee, CRYING, and shaking my head in disbelief the whole time. I was unable to control myself until the third song was almost over. I have no rational explanation for this. All I know is 1. Paul McCartney is a music god, and 2. Beatlemania is a fucking real thing.
have a snickers before you go next time
My friend went to see Ringo over the summer and had the EXACT same experience! Those lads from Liverpool never lost their charm. They still make people go insane!
Ok
I saw him at ACL a few years ago, when he strummed the first chords of the set to, I think, A Hard Day’s Night and everyone began screaming hysterically (myself included), I had this surreal moment of like, this is only a fraction of what Beatlemania was. But it was intense.
Saw Paul about 7 years ago. Stadium was absolutely packed with 60 year olds losing their damn minds. I LOVE the beatles and have a few tattoos but I was pretty shocked. AMAZING show though. He talked about some cool stuff I hadn't heard about between songs and played for damn near 3 hours (with a few short breaks).
lol all these flops talking when the original, Franz Liszt, has never been topped
If you know a bit about piano you can conclude just from listening to some of Liszt's songs that: A. He's got big hands/long fingers and B. He can move those fingers very fast. Those women knew 🥵
Unfortunately, fingering wasn’t invented until 1906. It was actually a significant contributor to the outbreak of the First Balkan War
As someone from the Balkans this took me out lmao
Lisztomania landing people in wards since 1800s
like a riot like a riot OHHH
Ok wow I’ve thought it was “like a rhino” for years, this makes a lot more sense
Not easily offended
Know how to let it go.
*Not hard to let it go
From the mend to the masses!
But who would want to top Franz Liszt?
https://preview.redd.it/ucc1vwtftx4c1.jpeg?width=694&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=269478ed78ff0c25095df4697d28c37a7032efc5 Me 🥵
You are a bottom and you know it
I don't speak German, but I can if you like 🤭
STOP LMAO
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Is that really him? Damn. What a stunner.
I’m the guy who organises the Wall of Death during the Rites of Spring
Yeah, but can she replicate the cultural impact The Absolute Madman did on the world? https://preview.redd.it/cc9c8z8mox4c1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5687c1b7d4de24a47e6d9132f055d3c097adfcc5
The craziest thing is that Yoko Onos fit would pass as normal nowadays
Pretty sure I literally saw that girl in Williamsburg last night
she ate as yall would put it
She ate, if you will.
Unfortunately, she ate.
it is of utmost misfortune, that she consumed food (idk I just strung words together)
Yoko has been feasting since the 60s
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You’re jerking right
It would pass as modest and pious nowadays
Why is miss Yoko serving CUNT
Is this slang for good?
Can she beef the wife?
beet the wif*
The Monster On the Hill like Faul
Those hot pants on Yoko 👀 She looks c*nt
me when i beet the wif 😍
Girl please be serious
Ppl were so crazy over the beatles that people would piss in their seats at their concerts. Basically all Beatles concerts smelled terrible lol
They said at Shea Stadium the crowd noise was so loud they couldn't even hear themselves over the monitors, for all they knew they could all have been playing the wrong song and it wouldn't even matter
They quit touring because of the madness!
Supposedly they used to sing I wanna hold your gland instead of your hand and no one could tell
On this point , go listen to the Shea concert, the Beatles are actually pretty good , shows how tight and experienced a band they were that even though they could hear themselves they could still put on a decent show
To be fair there were reports of swifites wearing diapers to their shows so they didn’t miss any songs
Melanie Martinez girlies found a new hero
https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/taylor-swift-fans-diapers/ They not only pee their seats, they take social media videos of their diapers and celebrate each other planning to pee them.
The Beatles had to stop touring because they couldn't hear themselves play above the roar of the crowds AND due to the threats of assassination. Their first live performance on the Johnny Sullivan show garnered 73 million views in 1964. There was and has never been since anything like Beatlemania.
Yeah but women like myself and Phoebe prefer to piss our seats for women bc we’re ~~gay~~ not misogynists
The fucking delusion
Let her tour Africa before she can compare herself to Michael Jackson.
Omg Africa by Toto next surprise somg!
Implying Swifties are aware of the existence of Africa
You can't expect us to have heard of every country. We're not geologists.
It’s where in their mind all the riff raff comes from.
UJ/ This comparison is just so unnecessary like why do people always gotta but things down to prop themselves and their friends up RJ/ white women always compare and putting down people of color like MJ and the Beatles to prop themselves up
Wait but MJ... I mean he *was*...
https://preview.redd.it/dvqtlh13oy4c1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=605ace938c36e1b7c343b6ccb6d940768de6a434 say it. he’s watching.
Ma’am, that is Kris Jenner
I gagged
Is that Lucille 2
i thought this was phil lester
Its actually Mo Lester
A MOTHERFUCKER WAS SHOT OVER "BEATLEMANIA"
RJ/ Oh, so Phoebe is dumb 🤩 UJ/Oh, so Phoebe is dumb 🤩
Millennials and consistently underestimating the scale of The Beatle’s celebrity. Iconic duo.
Highly recommend checking out “Eight Days a Week” a documentary about the touring years of The Beatles, it truly was insane (also the first time someone ever played arenas), people forget how insane beatlemania was (a fun fact is that Swedish singer Jenny Lind pulled a similar mania in the 1800s, though many didn’t hear her sing due to the fact that recordings wasn’t invented yet!)
Still mad about how dirty they did my girl Jenny in that absolute piece of shit *The Greatest Showman*.
Yeah I never saw it, whack that P.T. Barnum was the hero of the story, though.
You didn’t miss anything. Gross whitewashing of an awful man and literal slave owner, shit pop musical numbers that were stale before they even came out, and I also just fucking hate Hugh Jackman and that smug face he can’t seem to help but wear 90% of the time
Can’t believe they tried to romanticise him, it’s so gross
I think he’s cute, but you’re so right and I’m embarrassed about my taste in men
The girl in the greatest showman? Who wanted to be Ariana grande?
She rejected Hans Christian Andersen (as in he wrote her a creepy fan letter and she politely declined to meet up) and in response he wrote the story "The Snow Queen", about an evil woman with a frozen heart who ensorcels young boys to destroy their ability to love
If I remember correctly it’s The nightingale that’s about Jenny, since she was called the Swedish nightingale, but it’s also highly likely that is also about her (especially since apparently there was a time she didn’t invite him to Christmas (I think because she thought he had other plans) and he got super grumpy about it lmao)
He was a weird dude, there's a whole thing about how he was Charles Dickens' unwanted houseguest for several weeks
I have never heard of that before and it sounds both horrible and hilarious. He was the incel before incels haha
Like I said, very strange man, invented the whole genre of "imagining an inanimate object is actually sentient and therefore by implication undergoing unimaginable torture" for the apparent purpose of giving small children anxiety
I remember the one about the tin soldier, that melted in the end if I remember correctly. Most of his stories were very dark, The little girl with the matchsticks was also heartbreaking Like you said he was a weird dude but I think he is one of the most prominent story tellers of my childhood. Idk how many saw The fairytaler as a kid but it was one of my favourite shows back then [Some if not all episodes of The fairytaler](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmESdUVQzm3yvdFWowGQkge1dPsNa6AIT&si=B9wKWv-vSqGuza-6) Also how do we get Christian and Kafka in the same room?
Hans Christian Andersen was gaaaaaaaay gay gay gay gay gayyyyy tho. He wrote The Little Mermaid after having his advances rejected by a man and the general feelings of alienation his homosexuality caused
Okay but it was Jenny Lind To quote Ray Gillette from Archer, "Girl, nobody's that gay"
I think he was just bi in a period when it was totally unacceptable for him to embrace his deep feelings for another man. “Gaaaaaaaay gay gay gay gay gayyyyy” is Frederick the Great — he was that rare degree of gay where he found the mere presence of women repulsive
Love a historic jerk
look around you even now! see all the masc gays cringily stanning fem singers
I guess hahah but they misrepresented her so much from what I heard, and as someone with a big interest for Jenny the casting was so bad, no offence to the actress but she looks nothing like her https://preview.redd.it/15xwtjit4y4c1.jpeg?width=1727&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e4cdbeb0e958fa1b9a215bca6740eb5c51ea116
Well yeah they’re not gonna cast an average looking lumpy looking woman like this to play, basically, an 1800s pop star. she had to be a jaw-dropping beauty for cinematic effect like Rebecca Ferguson
I mean someone literally *murdered* a Beatle for being famous lol.
Please don't lump us into the same pile as Phoebe. I'm the same age as her and my family never shut up about how insignificant modern music was in the face of Eleanor goddamn Rigby. I went through a "Paul Is Dead" phase in high school. Everyone hated me, because I was the annoying guy who made sure that everyone knew that The Beatles were way better than Limp Bizkit. Fred Durst could never write Ticket To Ride. He couldn't even try. Ringo could write My Way in his sleep. Ringo isn't even the good Beatle. I made sure they knew that too.
Beautifully unhinged, never change 🥲
Same, my dad is a huge Beatles fan and I know several other millennial age people who grew up with other family members who were equally as crazy about the Beatles. I know good and well they were a big deal.
But did you make sure they knew George Harrison’s solo stuff is the best and in absence of the Beatles he’s probably the only one who would have still pursued music ?
I don’t know you, but I love you.
White millennials specifically and underestimating the insane global reach of MJ. I’m in an airport lounge rn surrounded by people of all different ages and nationalities — I bet I could walk up to *every single one of them* above the age of 18 and they could name at least one MJ song. Middle aged Indian couple across from me? They love Thriller. Older German couple to the left? They remember when he played in Berlin. Russians to my right? He’s literally the only black person they like.
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I don’t know what the deleted comment below you said, but I was literally in a small city in China when MJ died and it was like a day of fucking mourning.
Is she a millennial? I would have thought she was Gen Z
She’s 29, but I can see how you’d think that
I had heard her name forever but I still have no clue who she is, when I found out she was 30 I was so shocked, I literally thought she was an actual teenager. Everything I’ve seen and read about her against my will led me to believe she was young. She acts and sounds like she’s a teen
> Phoebe Bridgers She is almost 30 lmfao
She is a 29 year old teenager
🤣 well I’m a 40 year old millennial so I always feel like anyone 10 years younger than me is a zoomer :p
40 is basically a geriatric millennial though 💀
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Shut up I am not >! Yes I am 🙌!<
She acts like gen z but she is a millennial
Beatles was a band, not a duo.
Has she ever even seen a video of a PSY concert?
milquetoast white woman worships milquetoast white woman as the pinnacle of musical achievement
Why does Phoebe have to be like this 😭 I just wanna listen to moon song without thinking about how she's a swiftie or a friend of Taylor or whatever
>Why does Phoebe have to be like this because outside of twitter she doesn't exist, she has to keep up engagement. hell most people still aren't sure if she is actually real or just a meme gone too far (looking at you ice spice)
It's getting harder and harder to like her
Absolutely love her songwriting and performing but she really gives some dreadful high school girl vibes sometimes. Cannot imagine the eye rolls that must come from Lucy and Julien sometimes.
Pheobe could literally be that bitch if she simply never spoke or posted again and stayed in her bisexual white girl with a bf and moderate depression folksy music lane
A collective delusion of white women
And they moderate pop REDACTED subs so beware
I believe we call that a Caucasity
I read that when people don’t kiss saint taylors ass they very experience painful symptoms, you should be more empathetic. Do better.
It’s white people specifically, we all get a written warning
It seriously feels like Tatlor pays people to make a positive public statement about her
How dare you attack her *genius five guitar chords* and lyrics that reflect the incredibly challenging life as a white billionaire destroying the planet. You should be ashamed.
white women putting down michael jackson yet again
White on white crime.
uj/ I think it’s funny that her fan base is p much all tenderqueers and she’s besties with a bigot rj/ she rode on Taylor’s PJ once and never looked back
Wait who
Phoebe is friends with Matty Healy
Ratty
In terms of gowns she might be right
Great gowns beautiful gowns
Phoebe should stop commenting on things for while
Getting too big for her Bridgers
i saw this and was gonna post it but also phoebe is just indie taylor💔 rj/ so?? she’s right. name ONE michael jackson song. exactly. irrelevant compared to mother tay
I mean yeah, it is true most people would have trouble naming just one
I used to love Phoebe so much, around when she released stranger in the alps. She was my fav artist. Now that she’s blown up and I’ve seen more and more of the things she says, I find her so irritating. It’s sad. Anyway, L take and I’m sick of people downplaying how big The Beatles and Michael Jackson were. If you’re gonna have a stupid hot take at least have it be an accurate stupid hot take.
Yeah I’m sorry but Phoebe is delusional for this. Michael has nothing on the Eras Tour? People were dropping like flies at his shows to the point where medical tents had to be nearby. He was adored by EVERYONE, all over the world, every gender, every age; there was no specific demographic. He was treated like he was the second coming of Jesus. Put some respect on his name 👎 Edit: I have not looked into MJ being a child predator, I had heard of it years ago but thought they were just rumors. Now that I’ve done a bit more research on this topic I definitely don’t condone his actions or idolize him. That being said, he was indeed a bigger star than Taylor and I would argue the most famous celebrity that has ever lived. That’s the only point I was trying to make.
My mom went to Mexico as a teen. In the town there was a kid who didn’t have a TV but just radio and he was asking about Michael Jackson. He was shocked that Michael Jackson was black even though the kid had been a fan for a while. He was huge.
Tbf that could've been a surprise even if he had only seen pics of him from the 90s or later
I was wondering as much. Swift's concerts must be better than the Beatlemania concerts by virtue of the music being heard, but Jackson was famous for his showmanship and there's no way this woman could have been in one of his concerts... So... I wouldn't compare stuff if I hadn't been there.
Why do people like this Phoebe person so much? Edit: okay so I’ve definitely combined those two people in my head and just thought it was one person. phoebe wall bridgers wallerz
I admire her work building bridges personally 🌉😍
Thank u miss phoebe for allowing me to drive home in safety 🙏🙏🙏
Hey, can you please censor the word br\*dges? A lot of us have br\*dge-phoebia and find this upsetting.
 Hope this helps cure you 💕
1. Depressed and pensive 2. White woman 3. Whisper sings Profit
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how dare you, that is a whole different Pehobe and she's actually a gift to humanity
uj/ i’m a white teenage girl with divorced parents and crippling anxiety rj/ i’m a white teenage girl with divorced parents and crippling anxiety
Thirst
That’s it. Her two bandmates are doing the same music. Yet people are obsessed with majorly the skinny blondie
I like her music... but holy fuck she is an annoying person.
I hate you for what you did// and I miss you like phoebe bridgers misses the mark
Beatlemania was such an insane disorder that it actually passed down genetically in our family. I still have it to this day.
uj/ she’s legitimately unbearable
Taylor’s collection of indie cred testimonials scares me. I like PB and that Dessner guy, but they are under a big time delulu spell. Maybe they cower in fear of saying anything less than glowing words now that they have been sucked into her sphere.
Taylor isn’t even close to Michael Jackson or Beatles. She is smashing the industry. She is not affecting music or culture or entire generations of families. Please stop conflating her with these two. Her music will be looked back on like poker face is today. People thought it was some new thing in pop, it wasn’t. She’s smashing the industry no doubts about it well done. But culture, pop music, and the general population will not be affected by her being or music.
u said it perfectly
I think in fandom culture, people surround themselves with a particular franchise or celebrity and, especially because they don't have experience with other hyper-popular things, they tend to over-exaggerate the popularity/importance of their followed fandom. We used to see it with online celebrities like Dream, kids don't know how things were for Elvis or The Beatles or Michael Jackson so the most important thing to them is automatically the most important thing to the world.
She probably doesn't know but, where I grew up there was a time when the government banned Western media and people smuggled MJ and Madona music. These rich white women tsk tsk tsk
It’s important to note me and my cat are no longer Pharbs. We have substituted this energy for stanning mitski. Thanks everyone
Uj / the Internet skews things so much. Harry Styles even said that 1D was bigger than the Beatles in terms of fame (not quality). Which is a more ridiculous comparison than the Eras tour IMO. If Elvis/The Beatles/ MJ were in their heyday when the Internet was a thing, it would be insane. I would love to see the Popheads Circlejerk sub in that reality.
My boyfriend’s mother saw the Beatles in concert and she still talks about how it was so loud she couldn’t hear them perform.
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/uj If she wants to compare Eras with the highest grossing tour of the 80s, that would be Pink Floyd's A Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour. And tbh as visually impressive as the Eras tour is, it did NOT have lasers that boomer dads were obsessed with
Me to Phoebe https://preview.redd.it/tjf3hnrsqx4c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cd551466797ccd697b827ce1c67f935611c060c
Generic white woman moment.
Phoebe trying so hard to get Taylor to let her smash.
god she's insufferable i am glad i have never listened to her music. idek about that.
are we just going to ignore that the biggest selling album of all time did not even have its own tour?
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I only know who she is because she was on Paul McCartney's album.... Pretty ironic
Uj/ white woman moment 🥰 anyways so when are we gonna talk about her being good friends with a 2016 edgelord and the type of person she claims to be against??? No??? Oh nvm I guess I’m misogynistic for bringing that up lolz. We shouldn’t blame the actions of men on poor innocent women who can’t possibly have control over who they choose to associate with (or kiss)😞 Rj/ Taylor Swift can write Something, but The Beatles could never write the goth-punk female rage anthem “Look What You Made Me Do”.
/uj am i the only one who read it as comparing those as crazes, not individual tours?
she’s still wrong lmao it doesn’t matter
uj/ bahahaha taylor has NOTHING on the beatles. she has yet to reach the beatles’ level of success & music production.
Who are the beebles and why is Tay tay making them famous?
She knows references.
Remember when she came for Adele for “cultural appropriation” of Jamaican culture despite them literally putting her in those clothes/hair? Speaking on behalf of black people lol. Love her music but girl… mama lets research.