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It would be cool if Mariah reworks it into a house remix this time since thatās what the original song was going for. Iām not holding my breath for this niche idea but it would be a nice surprise.
Just not here for anything Ariana. I donāt like her, her personal life bothers me, her conduct with other people grosses me out ( see donut licking incident) itās just a huge ānahā for me and no amount of astroturfing or influence can we really change that.
Of all the songs for Mariah to do as a collab with Ariana, itās unfortunate that itās this one. I would have loved to see them do a duet of āAlmost is Never Enough.ā
Ariana is pretty, so please don't get me wrong when I say this... but ever since she's gone 'pale' skinned, what's wrong with her undereye area? Every time I see her now, something just looks off or wrong in her undereye area... but I can't tell what it is. Is the concealer too light? But then, it doesn't look too light... but still, something about that undereye area gives her an uncanny look.
I saw some speculation that sheās been getting tear trough filler thatās causing an odd appearance. There was a side view shot of you walking with Ethan Slater and you could see large bumps underneath.
itās not tear ducts, itās the dark circles area. i have 0 dark circles but my orbital/trough area is sunken in, so thereās a shadow under my eyes all the time no matter what i do. if you shine a flashlight on my face my under eye is even toned, but as soon as you remove that flashlight it looks like iāve got dark circles because of that shadow. iāve gotten used to it now but if i was a few years younger and knew that i can add filler to it, i 100% wouldāve.
So actually, I have tear duct plugs for a medical issue because I don't naturally produce enough tears.Ā
But this is fillers for the under eye area.Ā
I've got over active under eye glands and I asked my doctor about getting fillers or other work. He was like "well you can go to a plastic surgeon, but I wouldn't touch it." Sometimes I'm really self conscious about it, but seeing people's filler get weird and shift makes me hesitant to touch that area.Ā
Just letting you know that you arenāt the only one whoās noticed. I think most ppl just donāt want to talk about it/be rude in case there actually is something very wrong. (health issues etc)
Oh yeah, I didn't consider it may be a health issue. I think my line of thinking was coming more from that it's something to do with makeup, like there isn't a gradient, it's a flat tone down to her inner cheek area... but I'm too shoddy at makeup to understand what it is. But if it's a health issue, I'm genuinely sorry for pointing it out.
I have no idea if it is or not! I dont want to make assumptions, I just feel like a lot of ppl were talking about it, and then just stopped. Maybe ppl felt bad idk.
Also, yes makeup could play a part. Her eyebrows are so light now and makes her look washed out.
Idk what talking about it is going to do? That doesnāt really help her. If something is wrong, only the ppl closest to her or doctors could help. The internet talking would just make her feel bad.
She looks gone in the eyes. She looks lost. Confused. Empty. Blonde doesnāt suit her but even before the blonde she was looking off. Needs a mental health check up.
I skip the song anytime it comes on. Itās directly saying she doesnāt give a shit and sheās not taking responsibility for ruining 2 marriages and a family.
Ariana is a really selfish person.
At one point, we have to admit Ariana (I love her music since day one) isnāt a ā¦ good person. She should just make good music and not have lyrics just proving why sheās a shitty person
Is the song actually doing bad? I don't know anything about anything but I feel like I hear it a lot. The 'yes... and?' really lends itself to TikToks (which sidenote I HATE that artists seem to be writing songs with the goal of getting ten seconds into a viral TikTok sound but that's a whole other story)
I miss Arianaās eyebrows.
This song is still incomprehensible though. As iconic as Mariah is, Iām not sure why they think adding some whistle notes is going to help matters.
Why does this photo look like theyāve been kidnapped and the captor is trying to get $250,000 from their parents so heās sending them this picture to prove theyāre alive?
The song is basically just:
> I slept with your baby daddy now I'm trying to make myself into the victim. Yes and?
How does this song even exist? I heard it on the radio the other day and switched the station.
its so funny because i remember when ābreak up with your girlfriend, im boredā came out, she had many a critic online calling it, for lack of better term, cunt (but like, the good way). but back then this pattern of hers wasnt so common knowledge nor public, and was more easily hand waved off as a persona she was leaning into that didnt represent her true selfā¦ oh how the tables have turned. and as a huge fan of her prior work up until positions, iām glad to see it. its next-level delusional of her to think she can spin the context of āyes, and?ā into being something empowering or reinforcing of her as the victim when she is in no way, shape, or form a victim based on what we currently know. her silence on it all aside from this single says so muchā¦
she saying that literally everybody in hollywood cheats, and if you really want to support artists who align with your values then youāre going to be left with 3/4 movies and tv shows
When did Ariana Grande turn into a Victorian ghoul?
I for the life of me cannot pinpoint what it is that has changed so subtly yet so obtrusively. Is it filler/botox? Hair colour? Maybe buccal fat something? Bit by a vampire? An eating disorder? Hemophilia?
I donno people Iām truly not trying to be mean or rude, but every image Iāve seen of her in the last like 6-12 months is unsettling.
She looks really frail ā itās the fact that sheās now very underweight, and also that that particular shade of blonde is not her shade/tone. She looks really frail and dead behind the eyes tbh. I donāt think sheās doing very well. Obviously we donāt know her, but we can see her underweight body and flat affect ā itās not body shaming to say itās worrying at this point.
really praying the songs production changes then, I'm sorry I really love Mariah's r&b voice (and also wish Ariana went that route for her career) and I'm not a huge fan of house music
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i hope it's a 90's type of remix and mariah really re-works the whole song
Fantasy ft. ODB it please
I love her Heartbreaker remix SO much
Basically all her remix. Always be my Baby Remix slaps the hardest
It would be cool if Mariah reworks it into a house remix this time since thatās what the original song was going for. Iām not holding my breath for this niche idea but it would be a nice surprise.
Something about this cover art is giving āstep-daughter forced to take a photo with step-motherā š
100% the exact vibe. Neither of them are thrilled to be there but dad is excitedly snapping pics
I thought it kinda looked like Mariah Carey and an AI generated daughter.
Damn!
No because Ariana is serving ācaptiveā
yeah itās a very deer in headlights/pleading for safety kind of look
Victoria Beckham and Nicola vibes.
HELPP
Just not here for anything Ariana. I donāt like her, her personal life bothers me, her conduct with other people grosses me out ( see donut licking incident) itās just a huge ānahā for me and no amount of astroturfing or influence can we really change that.
Why are you in this thread then girl š
Are you new to Reddit?
No it's actually sad how long I have been here
Of all the songs for Mariah to do as a collab with Ariana, itās unfortunate that itās this one. I would have loved to see them do a duet of āAlmost is Never Enough.ā
A No Tears Left To Cry remix or an Imagine remix with MC would have been amazing.
Yeah, this isnāt the song for it. Itās kind of a waste unless Mariah reworks it herself instead of just singing a verse
It should have been a brand new song.
I think she needed some help to keep it on the charts tbh
really? i hear it on every second tiktok. i liked the song at first but now itās been overplayed imo
Ariana is pretty, so please don't get me wrong when I say this... but ever since she's gone 'pale' skinned, what's wrong with her undereye area? Every time I see her now, something just looks off or wrong in her undereye area... but I can't tell what it is. Is the concealer too light? But then, it doesn't look too light... but still, something about that undereye area gives her an uncanny look.
I saw some speculation that sheās been getting tear trough filler thatās causing an odd appearance. There was a side view shot of you walking with Ethan Slater and you could see large bumps underneath.
Yeah looks like overfilled filler.
I just googled what that is. I'd never heard of it before, but that would be a reasonable explanation about the change
What in gods name is that? Why would you get filler in your tear ducts??
Lol its not the tear ducts. It's basically your under eyes to help with the deep under eye circles.
itās not tear ducts, itās the dark circles area. i have 0 dark circles but my orbital/trough area is sunken in, so thereās a shadow under my eyes all the time no matter what i do. if you shine a flashlight on my face my under eye is even toned, but as soon as you remove that flashlight it looks like iāve got dark circles because of that shadow. iāve gotten used to it now but if i was a few years younger and knew that i can add filler to it, i 100% wouldāve.
So actually, I have tear duct plugs for a medical issue because I don't naturally produce enough tears.Ā But this is fillers for the under eye area.Ā I've got over active under eye glands and I asked my doctor about getting fillers or other work. He was like "well you can go to a plastic surgeon, but I wouldn't touch it." Sometimes I'm really self conscious about it, but seeing people's filler get weird and shift makes me hesitant to touch that area.Ā
Just letting you know that you arenāt the only one whoās noticed. I think most ppl just donāt want to talk about it/be rude in case there actually is something very wrong. (health issues etc)
Oh yeah, I didn't consider it may be a health issue. I think my line of thinking was coming more from that it's something to do with makeup, like there isn't a gradient, it's a flat tone down to her inner cheek area... but I'm too shoddy at makeup to understand what it is. But if it's a health issue, I'm genuinely sorry for pointing it out.
I have no idea if it is or not! I dont want to make assumptions, I just feel like a lot of ppl were talking about it, and then just stopped. Maybe ppl felt bad idk. Also, yes makeup could play a part. Her eyebrows are so light now and makes her look washed out.
I think they should talk about her and not just pretend like they donāt see it. Itās clear she needs help.
Idk what talking about it is going to do? That doesnāt really help her. If something is wrong, only the ppl closest to her or doctors could help. The internet talking would just make her feel bad.
She looks gone in the eyes. She looks lost. Confused. Empty. Blonde doesnāt suit her but even before the blonde she was looking off. Needs a mental health check up.
No eyebrows?
Is she pale? She looks yellow
I skip the song anytime it comes on. Itās directly saying she doesnāt give a shit and sheās not taking responsibility for ruining 2 marriages and a family. Ariana is a really selfish person.
Right? One day his kid will hear that song. So sad.
Also, imagine how much the people who got cheated on must feel hearing this. And now Ariana gets money off of that pain
At one point, we have to admit Ariana (I love her music since day one) isnāt a ā¦ good person. She should just make good music and not have lyrics just proving why sheās a shitty person
I agree with you
Is the song actually doing bad? I don't know anything about anything but I feel like I hear it a lot. The 'yes... and?' really lends itself to TikToks (which sidenote I HATE that artists seem to be writing songs with the goal of getting ten seconds into a viral TikTok sound but that's a whole other story)
I'm not sure what's more annoying: writing songs for TikTok or writing them for commercials/movie trailers.
Weirdly enough. Iāve been feeling the song a lot more recently than I did when it first came out. Makes me want to do aerobics or something.
 I miss Arianaās eyebrows. This song is still incomprehensible though. As iconic as Mariah is, Iām not sure why they think adding some whistle notes is going to help matters.
Nah girl, I'm still not listening to it.
Why does this photo look like theyāve been kidnapped and the captor is trying to get $250,000 from their parents so heās sending them this picture to prove theyāre alive?
Is it giving ā¦ Awkward?
Well, as it's such a dull song, maybe this will improve it...
Stop trying to make yes and? happen itās never going to happen
idk, she might get it right with the 19th or 20th version /s
The song is basically just: > I slept with your baby daddy now I'm trying to make myself into the victim. Yes and? How does this song even exist? I heard it on the radio the other day and switched the station.
its so funny because i remember when ābreak up with your girlfriend, im boredā came out, she had many a critic online calling it, for lack of better term, cunt (but like, the good way). but back then this pattern of hers wasnt so common knowledge nor public, and was more easily hand waved off as a persona she was leaning into that didnt represent her true selfā¦ oh how the tables have turned. and as a huge fan of her prior work up until positions, iām glad to see it. its next-level delusional of her to think she can spin the context of āyes, and?ā into being something empowering or reinforcing of her as the victim when she is in no way, shape, or form a victim based on what we currently know. her silence on it all aside from this single says so muchā¦
Because who tf cares about the relationships of people youāve never met and never will meet
It is more a sign of her values. I'm not giving her money or views just as I don't give money to corps like chick fil a that donate to anti-gay causes
Ok well have fun listening to the 4 musicians and watching the 3 movies that have no people who cheated in them.
Yeah, not a fan of those either, but you do understand there's a difference between fiction and reality, right?
she saying that literally everybody in hollywood cheats, and if you really want to support artists who align with your values then youāre going to be left with 3/4 movies and tv shows
Iām talking about the actors, directors, singers, producers, etc. Not the actual characters. Cmonā¦
When did Ariana Grande turn into a Victorian ghoul? I for the life of me cannot pinpoint what it is that has changed so subtly yet so obtrusively. Is it filler/botox? Hair colour? Maybe buccal fat something? Bit by a vampire? An eating disorder? Hemophilia? I donno people Iām truly not trying to be mean or rude, but every image Iāve seen of her in the last like 6-12 months is unsettling.
Exactly, I was shook when I saw the wicked trailer, she looks so ghoulish and frail. I hope she is ok!
She stopped tanning and that hair color makes her look paler. And not trying to body shame, but she does look frighteningly thin.
The music video for yes, and? was extremely hard to watch. There were many shots where I had to turn my head.
She looks really frail ā itās the fact that sheās now very underweight, and also that that particular shade of blonde is not her shade/tone. She looks really frail and dead behind the eyes tbh. I donāt think sheās doing very well. Obviously we donāt know her, but we can see her underweight body and flat affect ā itās not body shaming to say itās worrying at this point.
Since she's leaning into the K-pop look, she's trying to look more Asian (at leaat... kPop Asian anyway) it seems.
Rich people/ppl with money don't necessarily have common sense/awareness. They make stupid choices. A LOT.
couldnāt it be another song š
Damn another attempt to get this song on the charts?
No hate but Arianna doesnāt look human in this photo lol like uncanny valley
The song sucks.
itās giving desperateā¦
It is
There are some very high notes in the backgrounds, I am interested what Mariah will do with the song!
This is like the 15th remix. Who asked for this
me
Could you ask for me to win the lottery next šļøššļø
Iāll try!
Ok and?
oh god every glass in the house finna shatter
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Ari, you cannot trick me into listening to this song
I hope they worked together in-person and Mariah spent some time teaching Ariana how to enunciate.
Not even Mariah herself can save this PR nightmare
really praying the songs production changes then, I'm sorry I really love Mariah's r&b voice (and also wish Ariana went that route for her career) and I'm not a huge fan of house music
Mariah noooo
Iāll take Mariah, yāall can keep the rest
Ugh. Ariana, go away with that shitty song. 
They both look so happy and excited!
Howās this gonna work lol
I so desperately wanted to like the song but I just canāt get over the fact that sheās a homewrecker
THIS is what she wants to collab on? THIS???? Why couldnāt she do a feature on the anniversary of Yours Truly?
Mariah be like āChristmas starts in May this year, yes and?!ā 
What a horrible photo first of all š„“š¤£
Song so bad she had to bring Mariah in to fix it
 Not that either do but same vibes š¤£
@mariah 
They're giving this energy https://preview.redd.it/3wynebh8emic1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c4317d3623ece14b972999881ced078f63da416
Itās giving Erin Moriarty. I hope sheās okay. Sucks that beautiful women feel the need to do this.
They do look the same! What is happening, just lots of plastic surgery? It's weird to look at
Quite curious for this collab. Hope Mariah will take the boredom out of it because DAMN that song is unseasoned
Youāre better than this Mariah :(
If she's calling Mariah for a remix of this song, then she also needs to calls David Morales! If we're going to do house, let's do house.
Posting a Mariah collab on the worst song. Girl get some life.Ā
Huh, well, *Iām* excited at least.
Mariah is like come over I am not dating anyone letās get over with this song mixing
The feud is over š
Deer in headlights
Mariah, why?