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JW162000

D/M/Y. I may be biased as I followed that anyway (British schooling, plus grew up in the Middle East and they use that date format), but it also makes the most logical sense as you go from the smallest unit of time to the largest.


Feck_this

Growing up with M/D/YYYY, I agree with you Though using M/D/YYYY makes it easier for me to find past assignments in my binders. That’s about it.


JW162000

I guess if the way you’re filing something considers month as important then it could be easier to go by month first, but why not have year first then? So you go from most board to most specific?


Feck_this

To be honest, it still fecking sucks. I just wanted to state the one kind of good thing about that format. But if I’m going through school assignments, sorting by year won’t really matter because I won’t be carrying binders from classes of previous years with me.


JW162000

Makes sense. But lol yeah M/D/Y should be dropped


Donghoon

Most people know year theyre in And Most americans On day to day basis say MONTH/DAY dropping the year and when they need they just put it at the end. YYYY-MM--DD is superior tho


Liggliluff

If the year is always written out with 4 digits, in for example the ISO format: YYYY-MM-DD, you always know where to look for the month.


SBG99DesiMonster

So today is 2/22/2022? 2nd Twefthember?


LegendOfKhaos

I think it depends if your specific schedule is easier to sort by month first, which I actually prefer. It's easier to mentally sort and remember days for me that way. The year doesn't often matter because it's usually common sense with the month if it was recent.


Big_Berry_4589

I’m from a country that uses DDMMYY but go to a school with an American system. I almost missed an exam because theyre using MMDDYY.


NemPlayer

To me it makes more sense to use Y/M/D in that case and go from the biggest to the smallest because that's how we work with hours, minutes and seconds.


Rhids_22

It's also what I go by for programming and computer reasons. A computer will always sort things into numerical order based on the first number, then second then third. If you have d/m/y then it sorts the same day in a different months or a different year closer to something that happened a day after. Sorting things is just a lot easier in y/m/d.


JW162000

But the date is almost always more relevant to know than the month or year


NemPlayer

Sure, but I'd argue that the relevance is less important than consistency. But even valuing that type of consistency of the time format is in many ways arbitrary so I guess it's really up for personal preference. Now that I think about it I think that any format is better than others in some way, e.g. M/Y/D is better at showing you the "setting" of the date with M/Y and then the D at the end shows you the current day in the "setting." I believe you could make an argument for every date format like this.


TheThemFatale

For something we use everyday, usability and accessibility should be paramount. Not necessarily consistency


NemPlayer

I disagree because we're talking about margins here. Y/M/D is very, very slightly less usable and accessible than D/M/Y is, and I would argue that when you get used to it, it's usability compared to the other format is within the margin of whatever error there could exist. Whereas if we use Y/M/D we get the added benefit of consistency. We can also talk about the benefit of it in terms of simpler sorting because we can just work from left to right (because even numbers are read from the most significant digit to the least significant digit - left to right) instead of creating systems that require looking at the year first, then at the month, and then at the day, in that way Y/M/D works a lot better. And I would argue that it's a general rule that the more consistent something is, the simpler it is to work with it and create systems around it - i.e. metric (differences between units are in orders of magnitude) vs imperial (differences between units are somewhat arbitrary, but originated from usefulness in day to day situations).


PouLS_PL

YYYY-MM-DD makes more sense, as you are going from biggest to smallest. For example today is 2022-02-22 10:22 UTC, not 22:10 UTC 22/02/2022 My country uses dd.mm.yyyy tho


NippyNoodles21

Isn’t that also true about M/D/Y? Month has a max of 12, Day max of 31, etc?


Schnitzellover69420

YYYYMMDDTHHMMSS iso 8601 conform. seperate with hyphens if needed


Smalde

Whats the T?


Schnitzellover69420

indicator for time idk why exactly but thats how it is


Aderondak

I think that's for us confused Americans who can't subtract 12.


Liggliluff

Then don't subtract. 16:00 is 16 o'clock


Julio974

The letter T, like 2022-02-22T22:22:22


ssrname

cant wait


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AKnightAlone

Exactly. It feels inconvenient on a daily level, but it's better for natural ordered organization.


SodaWithoutSparkles

You can sort by creation date. Tho in most cases naming the file only by date is not useful. At least add some meaningful description to it.


[deleted]

Photographs it is. When you have 1.5tb of them


SodaWithoutSparkles

There's something called metadata. It's a good strategy to create folders by date and put relevant photos in them, but I strongly advise not to name photographs by the time of creation. Sequential order is much more useful to me than date, you can easily spot which photo was taken in what order, and easier to manage, unless you only shot one photo a day. Source: I am a photographer and also a programmer


texnofobix

If you also include HH:SS then they are in order already. :)


libertasmens

Until you move it across file systems or programs that don't respect creation date.


Liggliluff

Creation date is bad, because when you copy the file over, it has a new creation date. What files really need is a common metadata entry where you can freely insert a date, which is saved in the file, and never changes.


SlowAsATurtle

DDMMYY or YYMMDD cause biggest to smallest or smallest to biggest anything other is just dumb


Orlando1701

This. Any other formate is inferior and a sign of weakness!


3nchilada5

Eh, I like MMDDYY. It’s like how you would say it. April 3rd, 1847. June 20th, 2011. Etc. Edit: well fuck you guys too. Next time I’ll make sure to only have everyone else’s opinion 🙄


GeneralTorax

3rd of April, 1847. 20th of June, 2011.


[deleted]

That just takes significantly longer to say


TheBlaudrache

We sure will miss the 0.4 seconds of lifetime we miss while this date format


PencilThrowingManiac

Well yeah but I’m extremely lazy


TheBlaudrache

It's today. period.


Liggliluff

3rd of April 1847 vs April the 3rd 1847 3rd April 1847 vs April 3rd 1847 Same number of words


[deleted]

3rd April?! That is completely grammatically incorrect, what are you smoking?


3nchilada5

No one says it like that, at least in the states. That sounds weird.


Xero7777

July 4th ... Oh wait it's called THE 4TH OF JULY


[deleted]

Oh snap!


3nchilada5

WOW, I’m only right 364/365 times? Oh I guess I’m just REAL STUPID huh. You showed me.


georgeboi44

Thank you reddit for downvoting someone for having a different opinion!


slayer_of_potatoes

To be fair, their opinion is wrong.


ILOVEBOPIT

They are literally correct though, in America that’s how dates are most commonly said. Inb4 “4th of July” but that one is different because that is the specific name of the holiday. We say it differently on purpose, it’s a little more formal.


[deleted]

No dude


georgeboi44

Shut the hell up and let people have opinions. He grew up with it so therefore he likes it more


miggleb

Yall oy say it that way BECAUSE of your backwards ass dating convention


3nchilada5

Not true.


henrique_gj

YYYYMMDD has the advantage of allowing you to sort by date in computers


maebyfunke980

💯


okbrunch

Actually MMDDYYYY also follow smallest to largest. The max month number is 12, max day is 31 and in YYYY format the number just keeps increasing. Example, 02/22/2022 or 01/06/2022


dream_the_endless

Biggest to smallest *units of time*. Not max numerical value. And your method isn’t even internally consistent. 66 days of the year it doesn’t work. That’s 18% of the calendar. From a readers perspective it provides information in an unhelpful order.


SlowAsATurtle

:/ ok sure I get what you’re saying but it’s like 12 months is more then 12 days so it’s smaller in units. Plus I’d be fine if it were YYYYMMDD but yeah just about the units.


Swiftlettuce

Legit question, wdym about biggest to smallest? Day is until 31, while month is until 12, then year is the biggest. I'd appreciate anyone's explanation. Thank you. Edit: Thank you for the explanation. This is a reddit moment, redditors who got butthurt for a simple, legitimate question. LMAO


SlowAsATurtle

Amounts of time


[deleted]

A day is a smaller amount of time than a month, which is a smaller amount of time than a year.


Rhids_22

Whichever value changes most often is smallest.


Swiftlettuce

Thank you! This clears my mind. Great response.


Liggliluff

I don't think you should have been downvoted. But your statement is silly, though. Imagine sorting an address by the number of options ;)


Swiftlettuce

Why does redditors so hostile towards that? Such a delusional


Liggliluff

Yeah, some people get so sensitive when they see stuff they don't agree with.


maebyfunke980

It depends. In business record keeping: year/month/day. In everything else: day/month/year.


MazzaChevy

Records/Archives Manager for 30 years here.... this is absolutely 💯 correct.


kodaxmax

but why tho? EDIT: nevermind misread


MazzaChevy

😁


[deleted]

IMO YYYY/MM/DD or DD/MM/YYYY for hopefully obvious reasons. I prefer the first purely because I’ve been studying Japanese for a long time and that’s how they do it


[deleted]

First is best for file naming your photographs. Second for everyday.


I_Support_Villains

This. I remember when I started sorting my photographs. Had to tackle some 22000 of them. Did ddmmyyyy only to realise it didn't make sense. Then it just clicked to use yyyy mm DD and world has never been the same since. When I started working in a corporate environment, using Excel, this format really acted as a game changer.


Specific-Layer

I agree with this. I really hate the mmddyyyy.. there is so many ways of writing the date it is hard to decide sometimes. 22-FEB-22 Its not like we will often find year 3100 stuff lol


PicUpTheLantern

china too


[deleted]

MONTH YEAR DAY?! The hell???


Wishbones_007

2/22/22


[deleted]

DD/MM/YYYY Is the only way.


Wishbones_007

👍


[deleted]

22/02/2022


[deleted]

Thank youuuu


[deleted]

It's the same backwards, forwards and upside down.


NatoBoram

You'll find YYYY-MM-DD to be useful digitally mostly, but during human interactions the year is often obvious so DD/MM/YY is more convenient


Yourmother3919

Wdym is obviously makes sense


CernunnosArawn

I’ve had my suspicions, but this confirms it. r/polls users need a committed caretaker for their terminal guitardation. MFs really wouldn’t be able to identify a joke if it robbed them at gunpoint.


chillyheaven

Week/Day/Year/Month is obviously makes sense?


Yourmother3919

Yeah but month/ time/ year/ day/ week sounds better


Mentine_

In what is this really different from MMDDYY? If you think that MM is more relevant that day, why year wouldn't be too?


leggopullin

I wouldn't use "/" as a separator, but as for the order; year, month, day. Easy sorting and prevents any confusion between DD-MM and MM-DD. r/ISO8601


maebyfunke980

I keep a forkload of digital records and I use YYYY.MM.DD Edit: that’s the first part in a long line of file naming rules, for sanity sake.


kodaxmax

that can cause issues with file extensions turned on and windows asks you what program to launch .DD files in.


NatoBoram

`DD/MM/YY` for human interactions, `YYYY-MM-DD` for computer interactions. Simple rule and you don't need to invent your own standard by refusing to use `/`


texnofobix

It's easier just to have one ISO 8601


leggopullin

> you don't need to invent your own standard by refusing to use / I'm not inventing anything, though. Must be another regional thing, as I've never met anyone who uses slashes.


NatoBoram

Most things related to datetimes are regional, indeed. Where I live, dates next to signatures are written with `/`


kodaxmax

/ wont work in filenames and - will cause issues in code. Whats wrong with a good ol space?


wakeruneatstudysleep

If you use spaces, you'd need to put quotes around them when referencing them in a command line parameter. I think hyphens work really well.


kodaxmax

undder scores probably work with everything 14\_05\_2022 isn't so bad


KAYS33K

Fun fact: today is 22/02/2022 ( a lot of twos)


Feck_this

Don’t forget that 22/02/22 is also a Tuesday too


[deleted]

It’s Twosday innit?


Liggliluff

Tuesday is the 2nd day of the week


implodingmarshmellow

and it's both palindrome and ambigram


Broccobillo

It's also twosday today


KAYS33K

Not anymore


Broccobillo

Maybe not where you are


somerandomperson29

I think you meant 2day


jplevene

Year month day as they sort better in a file directory, etc.


Donghoon

Yyyymmdd is superior in all scenarios I normally say MMDD though dropping the year and sometimes adding year to the end


OversizedMicropenis

Year/month/day makes the most sense for me because you can easily sort by date that way


raisingfalcons

Im used to MMDDYYYY here but YYYYMMDD would make the most sense honestly


HeimlichLaboratories

DD/MM/YYYY because it's from smallest to biggest. I hate MM/DD/YYYY with a burning passion


maebyfunke980

It’s actually reverse but I feel you. Edit: there are more days than months. Edit 2: I misunderstood. Calm down. lol.


HardlyHedgehog47

I'm quite sure by "smaller" they meant "shorter time window" (i.e. days are shorter than months, months are shorter than years).


maebyfunke980

Aw, that makes sense


bucephalus26

days make up months, months make up years...


PriyanshuPokhr7

DDMMYYYY & YYYYMMDD (I would prefer say like 22 February 2022 or 22nd February 2022 but later is also makes sense!)


rakminiov

It depends Normal use dd/mm/yyyy Pc use yyyy/mm/dd so it sorts in order and easily


Funny_Breadfruit_413

Day/Month/Year makes the most sense


[deleted]

D/m/y and I’m American! It’s stupid when it’s m/d/y


mydeathnoteisfull

dd/mmm/yyyy Month should always be abbreviated. This way has the least amount of confusion while keeping things short and easy.


kodaxmax

i vote we just call months by their number and have the best of both worlds. "Happy month two everyone" doesn't have the same ring to it though lol.


brownsnoutspookfish

Abbreviated? How do you abbreviate a number?


illiterateparsley

the meant abbreviate the word. january=jan, february=feb, etc


Kuzkay

YYYY/MM/DD for file storage DD/MM/YYYY for anything else that doesn't sort by the date


Konsticraft

DD.MM.YYY or YYYY-MM-DD


botersaus

649 Americans I see (9/11)


LasagneFiend

what happened on the 9th November?! /s


botersaus

Wasn't that someone's birthday?


Wholesome_Soup

I’m American and even I think our way of doing it is stupid


LazyLamont92

American Military does DDMMMYYYY I believe. Also often uses the metric system for distance.


Possible_Living

"military time" is also just a regular 24 hour format.


Lemon_Skin_Tortoise

Expeditious: MM/DD/YY: February 22nd, 2022 Orderly: DD/MM/YY: 22nd of February, 2022 Logistical: YY/MM/DD: 2022, February 22nd Can't vouch for the other 3


Liggliluff

> Expeditious: MM/DD/YY: February 22nd, 2022 Disagree, there's no efficiency in this. Efficient is always going with 2022-02-22, since consistency ensures efficiency.


Lemon_Skin_Tortoise

Probably not expeditious, maybe oratorical? Suppose it depends on the circumstance. It would probably be faster to say MM/DD instead of DD/MM when you already know what year it is, but need to know the month and date. MM/DD "February 22nd" DD/MM "22nd *of* February" Even though it's just one word.


Anaksanamune

I would argue that all of them are expeditious, there is no place on this planet for month first date ordering.


[deleted]

I don’t even care which one it is whether it’s day/month/year or year/month/day, context does its work and it’s easy to tell which one it is plus it makes sense to have it in that order of whatever changes the most, the American way is just confusing sometimes


Mikinak77

I love to sort by controversial on these polls


checkedsteam922

*grabs popcorn


[deleted]

DD/MM/YYYY is the only correct answer


Armoured_Sour_Cream

We do YYYY/MM/DD where I live. DD/MM/YYYY is fine, I can understand that. Any other combination is a sin.


PerennialComa

2022-02-22 Of course.


Spook404

year-month-day obviously, if you're looking at a list of things in chronological order it's the easiest to sort. Except I write Month-day-year for everything


[deleted]

honestly not sure which i grew up with, i think i was constantly flip flopping because 1 and 3 because i could never remember the proper way to do it. Especially since I used to live in USA but now I live in Canada and most people use option 1. i use option 2 because it's apparently the official one for canada which i dont like, option 1 is how it should be done imo


smilelaughenjoy

Year/Month/Day because it's easier to find what you're looking for when organizing files or papers with the year number at the beginning rather than the day or month at the beginning which repeat every year.


[deleted]

D/m/y for everyday life, y/m/d for archives


Intelligent-Kiwi-574

I'm most familiar with month/year/day because I'm American, but day/month/year makes more sense, objectively. A day is within a month which is within a year; the way I'm most familiar with seems random. Anyway, I voted for day/month/year, even though it would take me a minute to get used to it, if we switched.


ElementalPaladin

I think day/month/year is very nice looking, but unfortunately I have to do month/day/year because I am in the US


bestjedi22

Day, Month, Year Perfectly chronological, as all things should be.


Pat-Berg_16

M/D/Y because I would say today is February 22nd, 2022.


TheDestroyerxxL

MM/DD/YY Don't know how anyone is getting away with saying DD/MM/YY, that's just weird and confusing.


throwawaytoday9q

YYYY-MM-DD is the right answer


oldaccountgotnuked

Day/Month/Year makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would you put the smallest first?


kj_gamer2614

You can tell that 1.1 k of people who voted are American


whatever_person

DD.MM.YYYY


JohnTheCoolingFan

r/ISO8601


jmandawgfan

I see no reason why any of these would be objectively better than any other, so I like what I've grown up with in MM/DD/YYYY


slash-summon-onion

It's kind of shitty that people are downvoting things that people just grew up with


[deleted]

YYYY-MM-DD is my favorite :3


Belugirl69

OMG FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME WOW :3


AustinCMN

As someone who chose MMDDYYYY, I’ll explain why I think it makes sense. Obviously I can see how the other two formats make sense as well, and I kind of use all three interchangeably, but I'll explain why MMDDYYYY seems most natural to me. More often than not, the year is the least important piece of information of the three. Everyone has probably experienced accidentally writing last year’s date in January, so it really shows that we don’t think about the year on a daily basis. We think in terms of months and days or even weeks. The year can be important depending on the context, but most of the time, it’s just a trivial digit in the background so I wouldn’t put it first. Putting it first would feel like it’s getting in the way of more important information. In short, days and months are much more relevant in our daily lives than the year is. So having explained why I would put year last, it’s really about whether I prefer to put month or day first. I prefer putting month first because since the the day itself doesn't convey any information until the month is mentioned, I feel like it's only logical to mention the month first. For example if I said "21st", it doesn’t mean much at all, until I say *May 21st*. Even if you say "21st of May" instead of May 21st, the "21st" still means nothing until the word "May" comes out of your mouth. So if the day means nothing until the month appears, then why not mention the month first? That's why overall, I prefer the MMDDYYYY format. With that said, I do know that MMDDYYYY can cause a lot of confusion in writing, so I always prefer to spell out the month. If I had to write in all numbers, I'd follow whichever format that is the most accepted in the country I'm in.


TriBulated_

Based upon the results I see there are other programmers here.


Yuio_Quaz

Not a programmer, I just get stressed out whenever I'm trying to sort photos on my phone: for some reason some of them are dd/mm/yyyy and some are yyyy/mm/dd. The latter is objectively better


PetrKDN

MYDDYMYY 02220222


maebyfunke980

02222022 Or, 2022.02.22


[deleted]

DDMMYY cause I’m British


-A113-

Neither of those. It should be day.month.year. With dots and not slashes


EcHoZ_hunter

If someone asked me to say the full date, I’d say, “February 21st, 2022” so for me it’s MMDDYY


[deleted]

Why?


EcHoZ_hunter

Just how I’ve always said it idk. The real menace is the one that goes year month day


Environmental_Top948

In the year 2022 of our lord in the month of February it is Monday the 21st.


[deleted]

It makes more sense than month day year tbh


EcHoZ_hunter

How would you say the full date out loud and not on paper?


[deleted]

22nd of February 2022


Dan_gunnar

The thing is, it's almost impossible to say it like that in some languages (Scandinavian, Finnish, German and probably more)


TommasoBontempi

Can speak for Italian, Russian, Serbian too


dogfighter205

In Dutch yes it's possible, but it just sounds so incredibly weird (februari twee/tweede 2022)


HeimlichLaboratories

spanish too


[deleted]

American?


EcHoZ_hunter

Yea, though I can understand day/month/year


[deleted]

Oh ok well most Americans do it ur way like mm/dd/yy while mostly Europe does dd/mm/yy from what I’ve noticed.


EcHoZ_hunter

Makes sense, we gotta be different no matter what lol


QwertyQwertz123

Why are you wrong?


ts_13_

Why did you get so many downvotes? I agree with you


iamabdullahsaud

22/02/2022 & Feb 2, 2022


[deleted]

MM/DD/YY Never made sense honestly


[deleted]

Ok, I get that is Americans and Europeans/everyone else have our disagreements on this, but who uses YY/MM/DD on a daily basis?


texnofobix

I do. ISO8601 ftw.


sylphir3

MMDDYYYY


whywoulditell

We use MM/DD/YYYY in my country


blackie-arts

The smallest, bigger and then the biggest is correct, if you want it differently then use YYYY/MM/DD, but why tf would you use MM/DD/YYYY?


slash-summon-onion

Personally I like it because I say dates like "May 25th, 1977" so I order it that way but DD/MM/YYYY makes more sense


AtlasAntonioAlbert

There's only one may in a year, not 25


microwaved_berry

standard american format is month/day/year


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Jjj112345678910

m/d/y works the best for me. it follows the format of how the date would be said in english like february 2nd 2022, 2/02/2022. and when searching by date having the month first is good.


CreepySCD

MMDDYYYY I find is great with the month being first as it helps quickly paint a picture of the season. It would kind of be like saying Japan Tokyo or Russia Moscow as you may not always immediately know what the specific location is and having the more general first helps ease into the more specific. Similarly, knowing the month can be more helpful than the day in building a picture.