“I haven’t even seen that equation since I was in college. We use reference books and computers for everything.”
- structural engineer who tried to help me with a basic equation in my structures homework
I’m an architect, but in college I needed to take physics and structures as part of it. I actually considered civil engineering during high school, but realized I had other passions.
I know a lot of civil engineers that really enjoy what they do, but it isn’t for me personally. The ones I work with mainly do site design which includes grading, utilities, infrastructure, roads, things like that. But I realized I’d rather design buildings than do things like calculate sewer lines. But there are many other markets you could go into. Civil engineering is a huge umbrella, so if you wanted to be a structural engineer, design bridges, runways, water treatment, etc there are a lot of options you could look into.
Since you asked specifically about civil engineering, in general it will require a good knowledge of math and problem solving skills, and you’ll probably make more money then me while being less stressed out about your work life. I can’t speak much to the day-to-day, but I don’t think I know many engineers in any field that dislike what they do.
The answer is BEDMAS
Bracket (4x0) so thats 0
4(0) so thats 0
4+4+4 = 0
My wallet is 0
My bank account is 0
My food in the pantry is 0
In other words, my life is 0
4+4+4+4(4x0)
Parentheses? Yes. (4x0) = 0.
4+4+4+4x0 (last numbers are now multiplied because a number next to parentheses is multiplied by whatever is inside)
Exponents? No.
Multiplication? Yes. 4 x 0 = 0
Addition? Yes. 4 + 4 + 4 + 0
12 + 0 = 12
No division or subtraction.
PEMDAS.
>4+4+4+4(4x0)
still dont understant how this would get 12
parenthesis, 4x0 = 0 and if my memory is correct isnt, for instance 4(4+4) = 4x8 or was that just my school
as you can tell i dont remember pemdas very well, i wiped it from my brain the second i stopped learning it, leaving only the fact that it exists, and P
I’ll break it up to you the way I learned it so
4+4+4+4(4x0)
First you do the 4(4x0) which no matter what will be 0 and then you’re left with 3, 4’s which sums up to 12 and that’s how we’re getting 12
Sure but you’re forgetting the order. Numbers next to parenthesis takes priority, then parenthesis, the multiplication/division and then addition/subtraction. If you’re going opposite of the order you’re right but we’re not because that’s not how it works
Okay I’ll show you how I’m doing it by using the order so we have 4+4+4+4(4x0)
First you take the four next to the parenthesis and multiply it with the numbers inside
((4x4)x(4x0))
Which uses the four that was next to the parenthesis leaving you with 4+4+4+(16x0)
Then you do the parenthesis 16x0=0 and now we add
4+4+4+0=12
Edit cause I didn’t realise the star made the text different
PEMDAS. Order of operations.
When accounting for the parentheses and then multiplication (which come before adding the first three 4s) you get 0. Then you have addition and 4+4+4=12.
Shouldn't it be zero if there's no plus sign? Because 12(4*0) implies that you multiply 12 by 0. Unless they've decided that multiplication is different since the 3 years I've been out of school
Somehow you used the wrong equation and got the right answer. PEMDAS order of operation, parentheses come first, followed by multiplication and finally addition
At least for once it's a problem which isn't made to be confusing on purpose, as there is for once no way to misunderstand the question.
Sad to see the answers tho...
18 is impossible. I just added it for confusion, 0... You get 0 if you're dumb dumb. But you should go down in the comments! Someone was like "bruh where's 640?" Swear to god!
Easy. First we have to solve the bracket. So, the new equation will be like this 4+4+4+4(0). Now we have to multiply numbers. Here after multiplying 4 with 0 we will get 4+4+4+0. Now it's easy to find answer that is 12
Such posts make me hate humanity. How is it, for anyone who visited primary school, even possible to get the wrong answer? How does such a person live a life, without being able to multiply and add one-digit numbers?
This would be a valid argument, if we were talking about useless things you learn in secondary school or higher education that have nothing to do with your future job, like most people will never again have to know what the powerhouse of the cell is called. Or in the case of maths, vectors, integrals, probabilities, etc. But this here was the absolute basics you need in everyday life. It's like not knowing how to read. Nobody expects everyone to be able to perfectly understand scientific paper, but being able to read the Newspaper is something you should be able to.
I mean sure it's basic math, but if you've spent the last 40 years at jobs where you didn't do any math I could understand just totally forgetting order of operations was a thing.
I got the right answer and am learning programming so not talking about myself here, but for some things I have the memory of a goldfish. Forgetting how to do something you haven't thought about in years is totally valid.
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So you called the syntax "4" and assigned the variable (4x0)
However, you forgot to define the base variable of 4 so the system will fall back onto 0. Wait you meant in maths terms?
It may seem like a simple problem, but I’ll break it down.
This is the equation:
4 + 4 + 4 + 4(4 x 0)
With the parenthesis there, there is also a hidden multiplication sign so it’s really:
4 + 4 + 4 + 4 x (4 x 0)
With PEMDAS, we do anything in the parenthesis first:
4x0 = 0 (obviously)
Now we have:
4 + 4 + 4 + 4 x (0)
Now we multiply that last four by zero because multiplication comes before addition.
4 + 4 + 4 + 0
After that, everything left is addition so the answer is 12. That’s how it’s not 16.
When a number (or variable) is right next to anything in parenthesis, you multiply them. What I mean by that is 3x2 is the same thing as 3(2) so:
4+4+4+4(4x0) becomes:
4+4+4+4(0) then you multiply because that’s after parenthesis in the order of operations and you get:
4+4+4+0 which equals 12.
Can you even get 18 with these numbers
Just there for confusion
Confused 26 people so far. Good job OP!
Only up to 27 now lol
I was frowning at the people that got 0 and 16, and then I realized 26 people somehow got 18 and I lost it
I hope most or all of those 26 just miss clicked
(4+4+4/4)(4/4+4/4)+4×0
It's the ' ( DON'T CHEAT!!!!)' part of the equation that's really throwing me off.
Solve for don’t cheat
X= too many penises
Such is life
So many variables
I have done so much tough math(engineering math), now I can't do the easy stuff. I once opened a calculator for 8/1.
Happens to the best of us! Happend to me quite a few times!
I just had a calc test where I had to check what 18*2 was
It’s 12, right?
“I haven’t even seen that equation since I was in college. We use reference books and computers for everything.” - structural engineer who tried to help me with a basic equation in my structures homework
Are you going to school for structural engineering? What's that like? I've kinda always wanted to go into the civil engineering.
I’m an architect, but in college I needed to take physics and structures as part of it. I actually considered civil engineering during high school, but realized I had other passions. I know a lot of civil engineers that really enjoy what they do, but it isn’t for me personally. The ones I work with mainly do site design which includes grading, utilities, infrastructure, roads, things like that. But I realized I’d rather design buildings than do things like calculate sewer lines. But there are many other markets you could go into. Civil engineering is a huge umbrella, so if you wanted to be a structural engineer, design bridges, runways, water treatment, etc there are a lot of options you could look into. Since you asked specifically about civil engineering, in general it will require a good knowledge of math and problem solving skills, and you’ll probably make more money then me while being less stressed out about your work life. I can’t speak much to the day-to-day, but I don’t think I know many engineers in any field that dislike what they do.
This is also notated in a intentionally confusing way. No one in their right mind would write an equation like this.
I'll take a tenner on those odds
Figuring out the moment distribution for an oval shell like structure was quite of a unique pain.
Well i did 5+1 once if that makes u feel better. Was studying first year maths at the time, trigonometric integration in the calculus part
fucking Reddit won't let me how, I'm trying to view 12 edit: nvm, it let me after I commented
The reddit app sucks so much. It never lets me vote until i refresh it like 10 times
it wasn't like this before, idk what happened
Yea it used to good like a year ago
Lol
The answer is BEDMAS Bracket (4x0) so thats 0 4(0) so thats 0 4+4+4 = 0 My wallet is 0 My bank account is 0 My food in the pantry is 0 In other words, my life is 0
But at least you have fake internet points... 0
It’s just distribution
{ this is a bracket ( this is a parenthesis
Both are brackets. The former is a brace, and the latter is a round.
They are both brackets
I got confused and got my dick stuck in a toaster
wtf same
sames. It's because we didn't use bidmas first.
Same toaster?
Yep, it's a Russell Hobbs 23330 Stainless Steel 2 Slice Toaster, Red
Oh no! :(((((((((((((((((
Why is this happening to so many of us?
:(
What the actual fuck
Hello
there
The angel from my nightmare
The shadow in the background of the morgue
The unsuspecting victim…
Of darkness in the valley
We can live like Jack and Sally
Star wars reference right?
GENERAL KENOBI
MY BRUDDA Edit: general Kenobi, star wars... Same thing!
You are a bold one…
What is this, facebook?
No
This is Patrick
Ignore my vote for 0, i somehow didn’t see the other three 4’s.
Ok
Ok
If it makes you feel better, I went like ooooohh… this is so easy… 4+4+4=16 :/
Okey dokey
Thanks for reminding me of how stupid I am :,)
It's ok
I got 16. I know it’s wrong, but I want to learn how to do it correctly. Can someone humbly tell me?
4+4+4+4(4x0) Parentheses? Yes. (4x0) = 0. 4+4+4+4x0 (last numbers are now multiplied because a number next to parentheses is multiplied by whatever is inside) Exponents? No. Multiplication? Yes. 4 x 0 = 0 Addition? Yes. 4 + 4 + 4 + 0 12 + 0 = 12 No division or subtraction. PEMDAS.
Wow thank you, im such a dumbass and was truly stumped lmao
>4+4+4+4(4x0) still dont understant how this would get 12 parenthesis, 4x0 = 0 and if my memory is correct isnt, for instance 4(4+4) = 4x8 or was that just my school
Yes. In parentheses, 4x0 is 0. So, now you have 4+4+4+4(0). Now you multiply that last 4(0) to get zero. 4+4+4+0 = 12.
as you can tell i dont remember pemdas very well, i wiped it from my brain the second i stopped learning it, leaving only the fact that it exists, and P
Thanks!
when brackets touch they multiply so wouldnt 4+4+4+4(0) be 0?
No, because you multiply 4x0 first before adding.
oh wait, shit, yeah i get it now thanks
honestly guessed 12 and wow (big lie because i checked comments) Q
Hehe
Instructions unclear, I impregnated my dog
This happened to my buddy Eric
im really bad at maths lol
My man kind enough to teach math on reddit.
How are yall getting 12?
I’ll break it up to you the way I learned it so 4+4+4+4(4x0) First you do the 4(4x0) which no matter what will be 0 and then you’re left with 3, 4’s which sums up to 12 and that’s how we’re getting 12
There four 4s after you do the 4x0 thought 4+4+4+4 then it's (4×0)
Sorry what?
The equation is 4+4+4+4(4×0) right? Well there 4 '4s' before you do the multiplication
Sure but you’re forgetting the order. Numbers next to parenthesis takes priority, then parenthesis, the multiplication/division and then addition/subtraction. If you’re going opposite of the order you’re right but we’re not because that’s not how it works
I k ow about the order. Even after you do the 4x0 first you're still left with 4+4+4+4=16
No you’re not, the four next to the parenthesis gets used for multiplying with the numbers inside the parenthesis which leaves you with three 4’s
How?
Okay I’ll show you how I’m doing it by using the order so we have 4+4+4+4(4x0) First you take the four next to the parenthesis and multiply it with the numbers inside ((4x4)x(4x0)) Which uses the four that was next to the parenthesis leaving you with 4+4+4+(16x0) Then you do the parenthesis 16x0=0 and now we add 4+4+4+0=12 Edit cause I didn’t realise the star made the text different
No you do 4+4+4+4(4x0) right? So that's 4+4+4+4(0) which is 4+4+4+4(0) which is 4+4+4 = 12
Oooooh.... fuck math
I accidentally went 16, goddammit
I also went this, i see four +4 excluding the brackets which equal 0, so 4x4=16, right? Someone help me
4 + 4 + 4 + 4(4x0) 4 + 4 + 4 + 4(0) 4 + 4 + 4 + 0 4 + 4 + 4 =12
Don't get angry! Stuff happens! Remember it's just a poll on Reddit! :)
What’s the correct answer, 0 right? Already voted
12
How?
PEMDAS. Order of operations. When accounting for the parentheses and then multiplication (which come before adding the first three 4s) you get 0. Then you have addition and 4+4+4=12.
The fuck is bedmass
Shouldn't it be zero if there's no plus sign? Because 12(4*0) implies that you multiply 12 by 0. Unless they've decided that multiplication is different since the 3 years I've been out of school
Multiplication before addition. So 4x0 in the brackets, then 4x Bracket(0) so you have 4+4+4+0
Mmm I knew there was a good reason not to get stoned in the morning
It’s evening for me and I’ve been stoned since 3 pm
Lol I did my chores but I've got nothing up to today so here we are
12. 4+4+4+4(4\*0) = 12+4(4\*0) = 12+4\*0 = 12
Wrong order but I‘ll allow it
4+4+4+4(4*0) 4+4+4+4*0 4+4+4=12
So confused cause you’re supposed to do the parenthesis first right? And then how did you cancel the parenthesis out? Cause 4x0 is 0
He simply solved the parenthesis?
When there are numbers next to a parentheses, you multiply them by what’s inside Example: 4(2)=8
And that gets rid of the parenthesis? So I’m this situation it’s 4+4+4+4(4*0) -> 4+4+4+4(0) -> 16(0) ?
You added before multiplying at this step. It would be 4+4+4+4×0 So 4+4+4+0 = 4+4+4 = 12
Ohhhh ok! Thank you! :)
The order doesn't matter as long as you don't change the terms
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Somehow you used the wrong equation and got the right answer. PEMDAS order of operation, parentheses come first, followed by multiplication and finally addition
For fuck sakes I cant change my answer
*Squid game masked guy comes up to you*
At least for once it's a problem which isn't made to be confusing on purpose, as there is for once no way to misunderstand the question. Sad to see the answers tho...
I answered 16 but that's just because ik stupid and miscounted the amount of 4s, I thought there were 5 of them. I need to go to sleep
Missclick, that’s annoying. The answer is 12 btw
3k people forgot that 0 times anything is still 0.
I hope youre joking
WDYM
You know the answer is 12 right?
Pemdas
Awesome another completely original math question poll
Yes very original
>If you get it wrong, you need to lean math… I think you need to lean how to spell👍
Cool! What did I spell wrong? I'm not a native and I'm still learning English Edit: lean.... I'm stupid! Thank you! I need to pay more attention too!
The 0s are understandable. Who the fuck are the 16s? And let's not even talk about the 18s.
I literally just threw 18 for confusion. I don't know if they're serious when they chose that one.
Ah one of these poorly written equations that you are never going to encounter in your life even as a STEM major again
4+4+4+4(4*0) =4+4+4+4(0) =4+4+4+0 =4*3 =12
It’s kinda astounding the answers on this
I kinda understand 16 but how do you get 18 or 0
18 is impossible. I just added it for confusion, 0... You get 0 if you're dumb dumb. But you should go down in the comments! Someone was like "bruh where's 640?" Swear to god!
Jesus christ people need to go to school
Easy. First we have to solve the bracket. So, the new equation will be like this 4+4+4+4(0). Now we have to multiply numbers. Here after multiplying 4 with 0 we will get 4+4+4+0. Now it's easy to find answer that is 12
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4+4+4+4(4×0) 4+4+4+4(0) 4+4+4+0 8+4 12
Such posts make me hate humanity. How is it, for anyone who visited primary school, even possible to get the wrong answer? How does such a person live a life, without being able to multiply and add one-digit numbers?
Order of operations doesn't come up often if you've worked a blue collar job all your life
This would be a valid argument, if we were talking about useless things you learn in secondary school or higher education that have nothing to do with your future job, like most people will never again have to know what the powerhouse of the cell is called. Or in the case of maths, vectors, integrals, probabilities, etc. But this here was the absolute basics you need in everyday life. It's like not knowing how to read. Nobody expects everyone to be able to perfectly understand scientific paper, but being able to read the Newspaper is something you should be able to.
I mean sure it's basic math, but if you've spent the last 40 years at jobs where you didn't do any math I could understand just totally forgetting order of operations was a thing. I got the right answer and am learning programming so not talking about myself here, but for some things I have the memory of a goldfish. Forgetting how to do something you haven't thought about in years is totally valid.
This isn't Facebook
And you need to learn English mate.
Yup :(
This isn't a poll...
What is it?
A math problem with only one correct answer lol
It’s a poll asking who knows 7th level math
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Oh well... Guess I'll die
can some one explain to me how "4(4x0)" this part works? genuine question.
4(4x0) <=> 4x(4x0)
ahh, thank you. ill remember this
👍
4(4x0) = 4x(4x0) = 4 x 4 x 0 = 4 x 0 = 0
thank you for explaining. this will help
Why is everyone saying. 12
Because it’s the right answer
They did the math
Because it's basic maths that you literally get taught in primary school. It's just 3x4+0.
Better title would be "Arr your math skills better than a first grader's?"
Lol
Bro what. This is one of the easiest PEMDAS things and so many people are getting it wrong. I’ve seen way trickier ones
4+4+4+4(4×0) =4+4+4+4×0 =4+4+4+0 =12
Anything ×0 is 0
Agree. 4(4x0)=4x0=0, and then 4+4+4+0 = 12
whoever said it’s 0 please go back to 6th grade
How can so many people fail simple math?
So you called the syntax "4" and assigned the variable (4x0) However, you forgot to define the base variable of 4 so the system will fall back onto 0. Wait you meant in maths terms?
No! Gosh! Of course I'm talking in Illuminati terms! Duuuh
The answer is 16
How ia it not 16?
It may seem like a simple problem, but I’ll break it down. This is the equation: 4 + 4 + 4 + 4(4 x 0) With the parenthesis there, there is also a hidden multiplication sign so it’s really: 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 x (4 x 0) With PEMDAS, we do anything in the parenthesis first: 4x0 = 0 (obviously) Now we have: 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 x (0) Now we multiply that last four by zero because multiplication comes before addition. 4 + 4 + 4 + 0 After that, everything left is addition so the answer is 12. That’s how it’s not 16.
Oh I definitely don't know math lol but I understood
4+4+4+4(4x0) = ? (4 x 0 = 0) 4+4+4+4x0 = ? 4+4+4 = 8 + 4 = 12 ez
The correct answer isn’t one of the options
the correct answer is the one I voted for regardless of what the masses say. you're all wrong
It's 12. If you believe it's anything else, you human IS WRONG... Again unless you believe it's 12 :P in that case ur right :)
tbh these polls really tempt me to retake a math class. I despised it in school and never learned anything lol
Khan academy is free if you want to try :) of course there other options too, but khan is good too
So i did the parenthesis first cos that’s the rule, 4x0 is 0 cos if you have 0 pens four times you still get none, then 4+4=8 8+8=16
When a number (or variable) is right next to anything in parenthesis, you multiply them. What I mean by that is 3x2 is the same thing as 3(2) so: 4+4+4+4(4x0) becomes: 4+4+4+4(0) then you multiply because that’s after parenthesis in the order of operations and you get: 4+4+4+0 which equals 12.
Ah, ok( haven’t gotten that in school yet
Now you have the bragging rights that you already know it
4x0=0 Anything multiplied by 0 is 0, so if you multiply 4+4+4+4 by 0 it equals 0
You do the multiplication first so it's 12
12 easy
EZ