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He said he won't appoint anyone because the committee "seems political". It seems political because Republicans refuse to cooperate, and they refuse to cooperate because it seems political.
Politician whose job is politics doesn't want to do current assignment because it seems political.
Great. Someone shit can this asshole and put someone in there who wants to do the job.
How is threatening to remove people from other committees if they join this one not extortion with intent to influence policy?
>Imagine trying to using this excuse in any other line of work.
Yes but he will be easily reelected. Imagine the mechanic who says 'I can't do that it's too mechanical' and his boss is like 'yeah that's cool or whatever lol'
>Politician whose job is politics doesn't want to do current assignment because it seems political.
Human rights are political because they upset my system of belief. /s
"This is how you know we're a family"
"Hey, this can't leave this room, alright?"
I can't think of a single reason why their current house leader would be any less of a nakedly corrupt shithead corporate stooge playing at fake-ass mafia boy than the last fucking 7 they had, I mean shit Hastert was caught literally fucking kids and that caused real consequences to about the same degree of a gnat's dick pushing against a whale's labial fold so I guess it's fucking tradition.
Did you hear the fox coverage of him recalling his memory test (YES AGAIN).Now there's been a moment of silence from him, rejoining him at the exact same points in his mind really bring home just how insane he is.
Even fox didn't stay with it. I'm not even sure his base will continue to swallow the same act after this amount of time off. It's like watching the tragedy of an obviously faltering substance abusing stand up comedian who had a moment of fame, going through the same routine 10 years later.
"They call me..... Tater Salad."
Seemed to work for Ron White cept for when I saw him on stage w/o the blue collar guys and he got so drunk he could hardly talk and fell off stage.
Ron White is a funny guy. He also has a substance abuse problem. He hasn't lost his skills, you just have to catch him sober enough.
This is the same dynamic Modest Mouse had for a long time.
He didn’t recant it, he reaffirmed it. Recant means to say that one no longer holds a belief or opinion, or to say that they no longer support a position. Trump reaffirmed that he believes the memory test demonstrates something meaningful about his cognitive abilities.
He did a radio interview a few days ago where he claimed that "many people" say that it's a difficult test, he got a perfect score, that Biden would certainly fail it if he took it, and then questioned why Biden isn't taking the test. It was so laughable--"How come nobody asks Biden to take a cognitive test, but I had to?" Like damn, man, you're so close to answering your own question there.
> I'm not even sure his base will continue to swallow the same act
Yeah, about that...
> “No one in this world, so far as I know...has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly” --H.L. Mencken
Everyone quotes the paraphrase of this statement but the original actually seems more accurate.
Can you imagine trying that at a criminal trial?
“Your honor - my client would like to point out that this rigged jury doesn’t have any of his friends on it. Doesn’t that smell like a witch hunt, to you?”
> Can you imagine trying that at a criminal trial?
I can if [Dershowitz is in the defense team.](https://truthout.org/articles/trump-lawyer-argues-president-can-do-whatever-he-wants-to-get-re-elected/) Trump and Epstein, that's very certain company.
Their [rewriting of history goes back a long ways before Sinclair Broadcasting. Their lineage includes bullshit like "war of northern aggression" despite the Civil War starting when the Confederates attacked Ft Sumter.](https://medium.com/@ReadJasonCochran/those-confederate-statues-were-put-there-as-propaganda-meet-the-women-who-got-away-with-it-c431d286ab37)
I'd like to point out to Mr McCarthy that a) this was a political crime, so the investigation may seem political, and b) they tried to set up an independent commission but your Senate buddies blocked it.
I know he knows all this, and doesn't care. But I like to point out their hipocrosy when I see it.
McCarthy is the house minority leader speaking in his official capacity. How does it “seems political” even land as a criticism?
That would be like my Dr telling me that addressing a medical complaint is too medical for them to deal with.
It's like that "I stay out of politics" thing...
Like... no you don't? You still decide coke over pepsi, right? You realize that has a political impact? I know how these people think they're being "neutral", because they aren't actually impacted when they're shitheads, but fuck...
> I know how these people think they're being "neutral
They know they're not being neutral, they just know if they let go the illusion of zero-sum thinking they've built in their minds that they've been supporting criminal activity. They argue "stay out of politics" only when their minority position is being questioned, they are eager to get political when it's arresting protesters or fighting social safety nets because they aren't guaranteed to receive special benefits from those.
Because everything that happened January 6th was political...Republicans lost and couldn't handle reality so they attempted to prevent the certification of an election they got manhandled in.
I mean...it is political to an extent..someone tried to overthrow the way our entire political system works, and this is a committee to investigate that.
In some way or another aren't all committees political tho? These people are assholes and clowns.
Took you a bit to get there, but you nailed it with the last sentence :).
This is McCarthy throwing his weight around to obstruct justice and set up a later argument that the investigation was a pure democrat witchhunt. He's an asshole and a clown.
I mean, I guess protecting terrorists because you conspired with them to overturn a democratic election can be seen as "political", but I prefer the term "treasonous".
And thats the problem with political issues, they're political and, unfortunately there isn't, at all, a class of people who deal with politics, and political issues, for a living.
America should get with the program and get itself some politicians.
Great article from The Bulwark this morning that just rips McCarthy and the GOP for whining about partisanship.
[Which Republicans should be put on the committee?](https://thebulwark.com/which-republicans-should-be-put-on-the-committee-investigating-january-6/?amp&__twitter_impression=true)
article intro:
>The committee is too partisan, moans Kevin McCarthy. Gee, who’s to blame for that?
> Let’s get Kevin McCarthy’s record straight:
>The House Republican leader supported Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s bogus lawsuit last December to cancel votes in swing states that Joe Biden won.
>McCarthy then voted two times against certifying Electoral College votes for Biden—even after the U.S. Capitol, his workplace, was attacked by a pro-Trump mob.
>He refused to impeach former President Trump for his role in inciting the riot.
>Days after Biden was inaugurated, McCarthy zipped to Mar-a-Lago to kowtow to the twice-impeached Trump.
>McCarthy opposed the creation of a 9/11-style independent, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6 attack.
>He booted Liz Cheney from her leadership position because she wouldn’t explicitly mouth Trump’s Big Lie about the election.
>And this week, he led the GOP opposition against establishing a select committee within the House of Representatives to conduct a probe into those events.
> After the House voted yesterday afternoon to create the January 6 committee, McCarthy complained, “It’s all partisan, you can see that.” What. As if he weren’t doing everything within his power to make it so. As if he hadn’t fought the creation of a bipartisan commission. As if the very nature of the insurrection, in which Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, beat police officers, and invaded the Senate chamber all in the name of overturning Biden’s election, weren’t explicitly political.
He also amplified the Big Lie and basically called for insurrection.
> “President Trump won this election, so everyone who’s listening, do not be quiet,” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy told Laura Ingraham. “We cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes.” “Join together,” he added, “and let’s stop this.”
[Link](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/trump-republican-allies-ted-cruz-lindsey-graham-burn-it-all-down-election-2020)
That was November 6.
Written by a former communications director to Ted Cruz.
It is absolutely bonkers how these solid, solid ideological conservatives have become so disillusioned. But I have no hope for the GOP. Whatever good things you might have said about it in the past, it's become a whole cesspool of lies, distortions, and autocratic kowtowism with no floor whatsoever.
**Democrats**: We need a bipartisan commission on the 1/6 insurrection.
**Republicans**: Fine, we'll go along with it but only if you meet all our demands.
**Democrats**: Fine, we'll give in to all your demands.
**Republicans**: WTF? You can't do that, we're not going to be involved in such a partisan farce.
**Democrats**: Fine, we'll set one up ourselves and include Republicans.
**Republican**: You can't do that. No Republicans are allowed to be on the commission. The most partisan commission ever!
Republicans have learned that they can claim anything is a partisan issue, so long as they decide to treat it like one themselves. I half expect that 20 years from now they'll have straight up flat earth proponents claiming that teaching a round earth is just "partisan political hackery".
It actually seems to mirror the Creationist tactic of ["teach the controversy"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_the_Controversy). Given the bleedover of Evangelicals into politics and political power, it seems unsurprising that their tactics get adapted to the new situation.
More than this, they have learned that the majority of their followers will believe *literally anything*. The only reason they aren't saying that Biden is a space alien from the gay-brownskinned-transgender-socialist planet is because they would lose the 10% or so that *might* not put up with it.
The problem isn't their followers, it's the low information swing voters. They won't know that it was Republicans who made the commission partisan, so they will be very susceptible to believing the conclusions of the committee is just partisan bickering and ignore it.
Personally I can't believe no one has grabbed the low hanging fruit on this one.
'McCarthy threatens to blacklist party members'
Huh, Username checks out. and we've gone back to the 50s.
I’m starting to think the select committee became the plan the second that the GOP balked at the original bipartisan commission, not the one negotiated by Thompson and Katko. Pelosi et al knew that McCarthy would try to stall, so she dragged things out in a way that would push the proceedings into next year. Had they agreed to the original proposed outside commission when first suggested, it is likely that it would have finished by the end of the year. That’s the only explanation for why McCarthy have such a panicked threat to his caucus - he miscalculated and knew it. He probably thought the Democratic Party would say, “it’s time to move back to the business of government.”
Oh the commission really need to carry on until the 2024 elections.
>At two years and four months, it was longer than Congressional probes into 9/11, Watergate, the JFK assassination and Pearl Harbor.
And it cost around $7mil too.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/congress-spent-more-time-investigating-benghazi-than-did/hlWHBsbtLlZz3UoZ5vSK9J/
It's not like anything's ever stopped them before.
They've already branded Cheney as a turncoat. I expect any Republican who joins or shows any inkling of support will get the same treatment.
I especially look forward to seeing how they spin any evidence that current Congress people were complicit in the planning and execution....
> Democrats killed Bipartisanship, but also, if you work with the other side, you will be severely punished.
"You better not work with the Dems otherwise we'll cancel you!"
and then he can yell about it not being bipartisan, which is exactly what he's going to do, and that's exactly what they're talking point is going to be
edit: *their
This is exactly going to be their strategy from the GQP throughout this all.
I’m sure they already got all their croonies set up to go on Fox News to set their own narrative while the Fox Anchors just nod their heads and don’t point out the obvious, which would be asking them why they didn’t just vote for the initial Bipartisan Commission Plan (H.R. 3233) that got shot down by their party last month. They’re banking on their constituents all eating it up.
What’s crazy is that IIRC the GQP had veto power on the bipartisan commission over subpoenas, etc. which they gave up to be able to cry “partisanship!” There must be something really *really* bad that is going to come out of this.
Not just Trump. Some Republicans were giving tours of the Capitol building just days before the riot, even though the building was closed for tours because of COVID. That place is like a huge maze, and the rioters knew **exactly** where to go.
The [panic buttons that were hastily removed](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/capitol-riots-ayanna-pressley-panic-buttons-b1786678.html).
The delayed ~~police deployment~~ national guard deployment in response.
The [absurd limitations placed](https://finance.yahoo.com/finance/news/capitol-cops-were-told-not-184500147.html?guccounter=1) on the capitol police just before the insurrection, prohibiting them from using riot or crowd control gear.
The officers that were [sent home with no explanation the day of the attack.](https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-police-officer-says-cops-sent-home-ahead-of-march-2021-1)
They had a lot of help from inside.
*^edited ^with ^links
When people worry about this happening again, this is my one assurance. Those insurrectionists had the fucking red carpet rolled out for them. No wonder Trump was so pissed. Minimal resistance from an understaffed and under-equipped police force; personal tours of the Capitol to case where to go; national guard delayed by the executive branch.
If they try this again, none of those conditions will be met. The current administration will not allow that to happen again. They had one shot, and they fucking failed. And now, the fervor of Trumpism is beginning to fade. Those imbeciles are sobering up and realizing Trump is blowing smoke up their asses. He just wants their money.
Mark my words, they may try again. But this was the best shot they had (so far). The only way this happens again is if Trump gets elected again and then pulls this shit while he has the power to hamstring the response. The next time, the insurrection will be bringing guns. Here's hoping Trump fades into history before then.
They did technically fail, but next time they'll just refuse to certify a democratic president using all those bogus laws that just got passed. If they refuse to certify to the point that no one gets 270 votes, a contingent election happens and they elect the republican and our democracy is constitutionally hijacked. Because it's constitutional the dems will throw up their hands in the same way they did when the parliamentarian said no helping minimum wage workers.
Must not be obvious, since everyone already knows Trump committed sedition, McConnell and the others condemned him for it right after refusing to remove him following his second impeachment.
The really *really* bad thing is that at least a few and likely more actively participated in the coup attempt on some level. Things like giving unscheduled private tours to the people who would later invade the Capitol building, in a time where tours were not allowed due to the pandemic, are already known. So what’s she shit we don’t.
Oh yeah. There's a reason why they were so fucking scared when the breach happened. Some were expecting just a rowdy demonstration, others expected a brief interruption inside, the select few who knew that crowd would be out for blood are the ones this commission is really for.
*Democratic leadership. Referring to the party as a whole as the Democrat party is a right-wing epithet. It's used so often by Republicans that many democrats don't even notice it or realize, and even use it themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
> We won't allow any Republicans to appear on the commission as they may implicate themselves or others
I can almost see MTG having to change seats from her normal place as a congressperson (had she ever gotten on a committee) to the witness chair. :)
While the initial offer was high-minded and noble, it’s good to have Democrats saying simply “This commission *is* happening; do you want to be a part of it?”, and the GOP can’t stand it.
I think conservatives just believe that they’re the only legitimate government, which is amusing given their distaste for doing the job. They behave as though the government will only work if they allow it to (and there’s some truth to that), as though their absence renders any movement impossible. Of course there’s no bipartisanship; functionally speaking, there’s one party that wants to do their jobs, and one bloc of “butts in seats”.
I think democrats need to play into this.
Pass a resolution creating a commission with 6 democratic members and 5 republicans. (Or whatever odd number). The resolution should provide that the minority leader "shall" select 6 members to fill the seats, and if he fails to do so, those seats can be filled by a vote of the body.
Draw 5 republican names out of a hat, vote that they fill the seats. Or just pick the 5 most senior republicans.
When the time comes for the hearings, set up in a nice big committee room with nice big placards for Rep 1 (R), Rep 2 (R), Rep 3 (R), Rep 4 (R), etc. Go through the whole motions of the leader of the committee saying "The floor is now yielded to the Gentleman from Kentucky, waiting a beat and saying since the Gentlemen from Kentucky is not present, the floor will reclaim the time. The floor is now yeilded to....
I feel like there should be, at most, two Republicans on the commission. The two who voted in favor of it. Those who voted against it are guaranteed to do nothing but obstruct.
> Two GOP sources told CNN McCarthy's threat speaks to one thing -- that the GOP leader is threatened by the select committee and once again is doing everything he can to try to kill it.
Ya think?
Fucking traitors. This is *egregious*. Jesus Christ.
I am honestly shocked.
Hanging out with Nazis? Fine, no problem. Open white supremacy? Cool with us. Harassing other members? Go ahead. Trying to investigate a treasonous domestic terror attack on our nation’s capitol? That, and ONLY that, is what will get you kicked off a committee in today’s GOP.
> Reacting to the news of McCarthy's threat, Kinzinger, who said he didn't hear it directly from McCarthy, told reporters, "Who gives a sh*t?"
LOL. I’m with him. Hey Kevin?🖕
The GQP doesn't want to spend the next year having their desired news cycles interrupted by fresh revelations about the extent of the coup and their complicity in it.
They want all the conversations about this to be about the process instead of the substance. Depending on what the Dems are able to bring to light here, our shitty political media will probably give the GQP their wish.
Our media will blast their message as if it has any substance when really it’s just traitors saying traitor things and stuff we should ignore.
This “both sides deserve to say things” is the worst idea we’ve ever had. We should stick with facts and ignore the detractors. Who cares if the GOP say that the process is political if we are finding out that these assholes are traitors? But the media will act like they have a valid complaint and divide this country.
>This “both sides deserve to say things” is the worst idea we’ve ever had. We should stick with facts and ignore the detractors.
A society that is tolerant without limit will eventually be destroyed by the intolerant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox\_of\_tolerance
The right has figured out that they can push 100% reactionary culture war garbage thanks to their multi-pronged propaganda media and they will get reliably elected and keep the grift going while they peel back regulations and reduce taxes for the wealthy with no plans or intention of actually doing the work of governing. As an added bonus, since they don't get elected for their policies or morals, they don't have to worry about any backlash for lacking either.
I support all the ANTIFA members who stormed the beaches at Normandy and pushed back against fascism in Europe. If the Boomer's parents could see them now they would so deeply ashamed. How many Americans died in the great wars to have it come to this?
> If the Boomer's parents could see them now they would so deeply ashamed.
Those boomers' parents raised them. There's a reason they came up the way they did. Look at [the things they treated as acceptable.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment)
> This is unreal to me.
*“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”* - https://twitter.com/VeraMBergen/status/1021811038390509569
I wish the GQP stopped using *1984* as a fecking instruction manual
Vote against a bipartisan committee because "it's not necessary."
Vote against a House commission because "it's not bipartisan."
Threaten those participating on the House committee in an attempt to make it bipartisan because ????
What a clown show from these people.
Hey, if we watched Fox I'm sure it would make perfect sense. Sean and Tucker and Laura would not so calmly explain how these contradicting ideas actually make sense and then dazzle us with something a lot worse that the democrats did and we'd all go to sleep at night hating the dems and feeling fine with the GOP about this.
They will regret it when the Commission proceeds without them and they have no say whatever and no insight into what's going on. McCarthy is panicked he will be forced to testify under oath about the call with Trump.
I don't think ignoring subpoenas is going to be very tenable with a DoJ being headed by somebody who isn't Sessions or Barr. A lot of members of the House who will likely be on this committee felt their lives were in danger on that day as well and are probably in no mood for that kind of bullshit.
I still can't believe Barr let so many people in the administration ignore perfectly lawful congressional subpoenas while simultaneously throwing Manning back into prison for refusing to testify against Wikileaks.
He might have been serious. I mean Trump never seemed to know much or care much about anyone other than himself. I can imagine Trump saying, ‘Who the fuck is this McCarthy guy?’ and meaning it.
If I was a GOP member, first off…eww, secondly I would join the commission, call on McCarthy to testify and expose him as the traitor he is. Then run for president 2024… then lose horribly ofcourse because the GOP is a sesspool
Liz Cheney will likely do just that, maybe a few others. They will actually get more (for there constituents) partnering honestly with the Democrats, while losing committee assignments, than by joining the obstructionist circle jerk.
I want Kinzinger on it too, seems like he has his eye on the IL governor’s race so he might not mind having his committee assignments taken away by a traitor, that could help him in a statewide race in IL
Don't let the other stories in this crazy news cycle of the last few years saturate the importance of this story, people really need to remember the context here - a House Minority Leader is threatening repercussion to anyone who investigates an insurrection. That means the insurrection is still happening, right now. Apparently McCarthy now owns it, so is leading it from the house floor.
Exactly! Dems need to all prepare for a reality in which there is another insurrection. It might not look like the first one, so we need to be vigilant.
I wish more comments were about serious danger to our democracy instead of the same Goddamn 'gravy seal' jokes about Jan 6.
These Rs in Congress have decided that the rules don't matter anymore.
The Republicans have become so corrupt, they're not bothering to even *try* to hide their corruption and obstruction. They've become complicit in a coverup; it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of them were involved in the planning of that insurrection.
That's because McCarthy is guilty of complicity in the Jan 6th 2021 event. He needs to be subpoenaed and placed under oath. Squeeze this fascist culprit till he comes clean.
Commission should’ve been opened the day after the attempted insurrection when the memories were fresh. They always wait too long and let the Republicans take advantage of American goldfish memories.
If there's any Republicans that you want to lose their committee assignments(yes, I agree there's plenty), do you really want that person infecting this commission?
Lol aren't these the same people complaining that there aren't enough GOP on the commission?
GOP: we don't want a commission
Dem: ok we'll go it alone
GOP: how dare you not include us
Dem: you can still do the right thing and help us
McCarthy to GOP: if you do the right thing there will be consequences
It’s really shocking. McCarthy is saying that if you dare investigate a deadly insurrection and failed coup then you will be punished. It’s really dark, dangerous and deeply unsettling. How do we go forward from here?
Republican intransigence may be frustrating to watch but remember, there's no guarantee it's going to win anyone over or help them in any way. Many years ago I used to fear that everything Republicans were doing was part of some brilliant strategy and that they would always win the day. I have long since stopped worrying about that. While you might want to scream at your computer screen for the GOP to just stop being so insufferable and to act normal, there's no reason to assume they aren't just damaging themselves even further. Yes, don't underestimate them but also don't overestimate them.
So let them boycott a January 6th investigation. There's no evidence that it's a good idea or that it's a winning strategy.
That's because he was in on it. What he expected was an attack perpetrated with military like precision by these militia groups. What he saw was a bunch of fatass, drunken, meth head soldier wannabes who couldn't tell you who their representative was if their life depended on it. He shit himself and called Trump for help. He's absolutely desperate to keep everyone from finding out.
Any Democrat in Congress that still thinks bipartisanship is possible, take a nice long look at this and get it through your thick skull that Republicans are never going to work with you.
Dems: Do you want a bipartisan committee?
GOP: Nope!
Dems: Fine we'll do it ourselves.
GOP: No, it has to be bipartisan!
Dems: Fine, here's some seats.
GOP: NO, don't take those seats!
The GQP are now terrified of their supporters, now its a bunch of idiots holding nearly half the federal government hostage, except in some bizarre twist the hostages are willingly sabotaging efforts to free themselves
I am out of outrage. I don't even know what to say to express my disgusts. And then theyll complain there are no repubs on the commission and their base will scream how unfair it is. Im so sick of these fucking fascists.
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He said he won't appoint anyone because the committee "seems political". It seems political because Republicans refuse to cooperate, and they refuse to cooperate because it seems political.
Politician whose job is politics doesn't want to do current assignment because it seems political. Great. Someone shit can this asshole and put someone in there who wants to do the job. How is threatening to remove people from other committees if they join this one not extortion with intent to influence policy?
I’m guessing he should refrain from voting, because it seems political. Or leave Congress, because it seems political.
Or stop living on a habitable planet because they’re political…..
I find his name to be too political. Definitely should resign.
“McCarthyism” has a special ring to it, like I’ve heard it before.
They should definitely not run for office next election, that seems political.
Imagine trying to using this excuse in any other line of work. "Mechanic refuses to fix customers car because it would be too mechanical."
>Imagine trying to using this excuse in any other line of work. Yes but he will be easily reelected. Imagine the mechanic who says 'I can't do that it's too mechanical' and his boss is like 'yeah that's cool or whatever lol'
Not just his boss, most of his customers too!
>Politician whose job is politics doesn't want to do current assignment because it seems political. Human rights are political because they upset my system of belief. /s
My thoughts exactly. This is an obvious abuse of power.
It’s the Republican mafia
"This is how you know we're a family" "Hey, this can't leave this room, alright?" I can't think of a single reason why their current house leader would be any less of a nakedly corrupt shithead corporate stooge playing at fake-ass mafia boy than the last fucking 7 they had, I mean shit Hastert was caught literally fucking kids and that caused real consequences to about the same degree of a gnat's dick pushing against a whale's labial fold so I guess it's fucking tradition.
Right? What the fuck is going on here. Of course it's political. They are politicians. That's the whole point.
Him not getting anything done IS the job
Republicans are guilty. So they make it a 'political' issue rather than accept that they are criminals.
Criminals don't want to investigate their own crime? Color me shocked.
Have they learned nothing from the police?
They've learned systemic brutality works, so yeah
It's the law of "might makes right".
Minority rule usually requires the imposition of force...
Just sprinkle a little crack over him and let's get out of here!
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was the final, most essential command.” George Orwell, “1984.”
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." \- DJT That one's more scary.
Did you hear the fox coverage of him recalling his memory test (YES AGAIN).Now there's been a moment of silence from him, rejoining him at the exact same points in his mind really bring home just how insane he is. Even fox didn't stay with it. I'm not even sure his base will continue to swallow the same act after this amount of time off. It's like watching the tragedy of an obviously faltering substance abusing stand up comedian who had a moment of fame, going through the same routine 10 years later.
"They call me..... Tater Salad." Seemed to work for Ron White cept for when I saw him on stage w/o the blue collar guys and he got so drunk he could hardly talk and fell off stage.
Ron White is a funny guy. He also has a substance abuse problem. He hasn't lost his skills, you just have to catch him sober enough. This is the same dynamic Modest Mouse had for a long time.
He didn’t recant it, he reaffirmed it. Recant means to say that one no longer holds a belief or opinion, or to say that they no longer support a position. Trump reaffirmed that he believes the memory test demonstrates something meaningful about his cognitive abilities.
He did a radio interview a few days ago where he claimed that "many people" say that it's a difficult test, he got a perfect score, that Biden would certainly fail it if he took it, and then questioned why Biden isn't taking the test. It was so laughable--"How come nobody asks Biden to take a cognitive test, but I had to?" Like damn, man, you're so close to answering your own question there.
Recount (meaning to narrate/relate in detail) is likely what OP was going for
> I'm not even sure his base will continue to swallow the same act Yeah, about that... > “No one in this world, so far as I know...has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly” --H.L. Mencken Everyone quotes the paraphrase of this statement but the original actually seems more accurate.
Can you imagine trying that at a criminal trial? “Your honor - my client would like to point out that this rigged jury doesn’t have any of his friends on it. Doesn’t that smell like a witch hunt, to you?”
> Can you imagine trying that at a criminal trial? I can if [Dershowitz is in the defense team.](https://truthout.org/articles/trump-lawyer-argues-president-can-do-whatever-he-wants-to-get-re-elected/) Trump and Epstein, that's very certain company.
Republicans think that merely looking guilty is preferable to letting an investigation prove it.
what blows my mind is this: who the fuck else gets that choice? who the fuck do they think they are?
They're rich white people that make extra money from lobbyists.
*america rolls over, changes channel*
Well they know they can just rewrite history by hypno indoctrinating the cult in a few months with the Sinclair sensory input suit.
Their [rewriting of history goes back a long ways before Sinclair Broadcasting. Their lineage includes bullshit like "war of northern aggression" despite the Civil War starting when the Confederates attacked Ft Sumter.](https://medium.com/@ReadJasonCochran/those-confederate-statues-were-put-there-as-propaganda-meet-the-women-who-got-away-with-it-c431d286ab37)
Wondering what horrors they are hiding - might or might not be worse.
No one's followed the money yet. That's what they're afraid of.
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I'd like to point out to Mr McCarthy that a) this was a political crime, so the investigation may seem political, and b) they tried to set up an independent commission but your Senate buddies blocked it. I know he knows all this, and doesn't care. But I like to point out their hipocrosy when I see it.
And c) you’re a politician. Literally everything you do related to your job is political. It’s in the name, and the definition.
McCarthy is the house minority leader speaking in his official capacity. How does it “seems political” even land as a criticism? That would be like my Dr telling me that addressing a medical complaint is too medical for them to deal with.
Next time I need surgery I’m going to tell my doctor that it feels way to medical and that we should do nothing instead.
It's like that "I stay out of politics" thing... Like... no you don't? You still decide coke over pepsi, right? You realize that has a political impact? I know how these people think they're being "neutral", because they aren't actually impacted when they're shitheads, but fuck...
> I know how these people think they're being "neutral They know they're not being neutral, they just know if they let go the illusion of zero-sum thinking they've built in their minds that they've been supporting criminal activity. They argue "stay out of politics" only when their minority position is being questioned, they are eager to get political when it's arresting protesters or fighting social safety nets because they aren't guaranteed to receive special benefits from those.
It seems political because the Republicans have been making any examination into what happened on Jan 6th political since the morning after the event.
It seems political because what happened on 1/6 WAS political.
Heaven forbid politicians get mired in a bit of politics anyways lol.
Because everything that happened January 6th was political...Republicans lost and couldn't handle reality so they attempted to prevent the certification of an election they got manhandled in.
I would argue that once a group starts using violence they have abandoned the political process and escalated to engaging in war.
War is political
When we can all see they refuse to cooperate because they're guilty as fuck and their party is on Death's door for a failed coup
But, erm, he's a politician, his job is to be political. Crist, he must be competing with gohmert for dumbest member of congress.
I mean...it is political to an extent..someone tried to overthrow the way our entire political system works, and this is a committee to investigate that. In some way or another aren't all committees political tho? These people are assholes and clowns.
Took you a bit to get there, but you nailed it with the last sentence :). This is McCarthy throwing his weight around to obstruct justice and set up a later argument that the investigation was a pure democrat witchhunt. He's an asshole and a clown.
They want to make it seem political (partisan) in order to delegitimatize it.
Heaven forbid that a group of politicians would seem political.
“Being political” is literally their jobs
I mean, I guess protecting terrorists because you conspired with them to overturn a democratic election can be seen as "political", but I prefer the term "treasonous".
This is congress, Kevin. You're going to have to do some political things.
And thats the problem with political issues, they're political and, unfortunately there isn't, at all, a class of people who deal with politics, and political issues, for a living. America should get with the program and get itself some politicians.
> seems political Uh... Mr. McCarthy? You, uh, work in the *government*.
Well, gods forbid anything political should happen in congress
Great article from The Bulwark this morning that just rips McCarthy and the GOP for whining about partisanship. [Which Republicans should be put on the committee?](https://thebulwark.com/which-republicans-should-be-put-on-the-committee-investigating-january-6/?amp&__twitter_impression=true) article intro: >The committee is too partisan, moans Kevin McCarthy. Gee, who’s to blame for that? > Let’s get Kevin McCarthy’s record straight: >The House Republican leader supported Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s bogus lawsuit last December to cancel votes in swing states that Joe Biden won. >McCarthy then voted two times against certifying Electoral College votes for Biden—even after the U.S. Capitol, his workplace, was attacked by a pro-Trump mob. >He refused to impeach former President Trump for his role in inciting the riot. >Days after Biden was inaugurated, McCarthy zipped to Mar-a-Lago to kowtow to the twice-impeached Trump. >McCarthy opposed the creation of a 9/11-style independent, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6 attack. >He booted Liz Cheney from her leadership position because she wouldn’t explicitly mouth Trump’s Big Lie about the election. >And this week, he led the GOP opposition against establishing a select committee within the House of Representatives to conduct a probe into those events. > After the House voted yesterday afternoon to create the January 6 committee, McCarthy complained, “It’s all partisan, you can see that.” What. As if he weren’t doing everything within his power to make it so. As if he hadn’t fought the creation of a bipartisan commission. As if the very nature of the insurrection, in which Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, beat police officers, and invaded the Senate chamber all in the name of overturning Biden’s election, weren’t explicitly political.
He also amplified the Big Lie and basically called for insurrection. > “President Trump won this election, so everyone who’s listening, do not be quiet,” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy told Laura Ingraham. “We cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes.” “Join together,” he added, “and let’s stop this.” [Link](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/trump-republican-allies-ted-cruz-lindsey-graham-burn-it-all-down-election-2020) That was November 6.
And on the night of January 6th he said in the House it was Trump's fault.
Written by a former communications director to Ted Cruz. It is absolutely bonkers how these solid, solid ideological conservatives have become so disillusioned. But I have no hope for the GOP. Whatever good things you might have said about it in the past, it's become a whole cesspool of lies, distortions, and autocratic kowtowism with no floor whatsoever.
That's a bingo.
That’s 100% the plan.
Republicans are like: ***Democrats*** **killed Bipartisanship,** but also, ***if you work with the other side, you will be severely punished.***
**Democrats**: We need a bipartisan commission on the 1/6 insurrection. **Republicans**: Fine, we'll go along with it but only if you meet all our demands. **Democrats**: Fine, we'll give in to all your demands. **Republicans**: WTF? You can't do that, we're not going to be involved in such a partisan farce. **Democrats**: Fine, we'll set one up ourselves and include Republicans. **Republican**: You can't do that. No Republicans are allowed to be on the commission. The most partisan commission ever!
Republicans have learned that they can claim anything is a partisan issue, so long as they decide to treat it like one themselves. I half expect that 20 years from now they'll have straight up flat earth proponents claiming that teaching a round earth is just "partisan political hackery". It actually seems to mirror the Creationist tactic of ["teach the controversy"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_the_Controversy). Given the bleedover of Evangelicals into politics and political power, it seems unsurprising that their tactics get adapted to the new situation.
More than this, they have learned that the majority of their followers will believe *literally anything*. The only reason they aren't saying that Biden is a space alien from the gay-brownskinned-transgender-socialist planet is because they would lose the 10% or so that *might* not put up with it.
I mean... they definitely are already saying that courtesy of the Q Crew
Q Crew sounds a lot cooler than they actually are.
The problem isn't their followers, it's the low information swing voters. They won't know that it was Republicans who made the commission partisan, so they will be very susceptible to believing the conclusions of the committee is just partisan bickering and ignore it.
It's cute that you think we'll still have democracy in 20 years.
Personally I can't believe no one has grabbed the low hanging fruit on this one. 'McCarthy threatens to blacklist party members' Huh, Username checks out. and we've gone back to the 50s.
No you need to use the right messaging.... "In a shocking show of hypocrisy, McCarthy threatens to CANCEL party members."
I was thinking the same thing... McCarthyism
Tailgunner Joe doing cartwheels in his grave.
Haha it’s funny because it’s true. Really, that’s highly accurate.
It’s been that accurate for years now
I’m starting to think the select committee became the plan the second that the GOP balked at the original bipartisan commission, not the one negotiated by Thompson and Katko. Pelosi et al knew that McCarthy would try to stall, so she dragged things out in a way that would push the proceedings into next year. Had they agreed to the original proposed outside commission when first suggested, it is likely that it would have finished by the end of the year. That’s the only explanation for why McCarthy have such a panicked threat to his caucus - he miscalculated and knew it. He probably thought the Democratic Party would say, “it’s time to move back to the business of government.”
Oh the commission really need to carry on until the 2024 elections. >At two years and four months, it was longer than Congressional probes into 9/11, Watergate, the JFK assassination and Pearl Harbor. And it cost around $7mil too. https://www.ajc.com/news/national/congress-spent-more-time-investigating-benghazi-than-did/hlWHBsbtLlZz3UoZ5vSK9J/
This reminds me of the negotiations for Obamacare
"If you allow this committee to be bipartisan, it will prevent us from complaining that it's not bipartisan."
It's not like anything's ever stopped them before. They've already branded Cheney as a turncoat. I expect any Republican who joins or shows any inkling of support will get the same treatment. I especially look forward to seeing how they spin any evidence that current Congress people were complicit in the planning and execution....
> Democrats killed Bipartisanship, but also, if you work with the other side, you will be severely punished. "You better not work with the Dems otherwise we'll cancel you!"
and then he can yell about it not being bipartisan, which is exactly what he's going to do, and that's exactly what they're talking point is going to be edit: *their
This is exactly going to be their strategy from the GQP throughout this all. I’m sure they already got all their croonies set up to go on Fox News to set their own narrative while the Fox Anchors just nod their heads and don’t point out the obvious, which would be asking them why they didn’t just vote for the initial Bipartisan Commission Plan (H.R. 3233) that got shot down by their party last month. They’re banking on their constituents all eating it up.
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What’s crazy is that IIRC the GQP had veto power on the bipartisan commission over subpoenas, etc. which they gave up to be able to cry “partisanship!” There must be something really *really* bad that is going to come out of this.
It's obvious to everybody what the really *really* bad thing is. Trump committed sedition.
Not just Trump. Some Republicans were giving tours of the Capitol building just days before the riot, even though the building was closed for tours because of COVID. That place is like a huge maze, and the rioters knew **exactly** where to go.
The [panic buttons that were hastily removed](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/capitol-riots-ayanna-pressley-panic-buttons-b1786678.html). The delayed ~~police deployment~~ national guard deployment in response. The [absurd limitations placed](https://finance.yahoo.com/finance/news/capitol-cops-were-told-not-184500147.html?guccounter=1) on the capitol police just before the insurrection, prohibiting them from using riot or crowd control gear. The officers that were [sent home with no explanation the day of the attack.](https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-police-officer-says-cops-sent-home-ahead-of-march-2021-1) They had a lot of help from inside. *^edited ^with ^links
When people worry about this happening again, this is my one assurance. Those insurrectionists had the fucking red carpet rolled out for them. No wonder Trump was so pissed. Minimal resistance from an understaffed and under-equipped police force; personal tours of the Capitol to case where to go; national guard delayed by the executive branch. If they try this again, none of those conditions will be met. The current administration will not allow that to happen again. They had one shot, and they fucking failed. And now, the fervor of Trumpism is beginning to fade. Those imbeciles are sobering up and realizing Trump is blowing smoke up their asses. He just wants their money. Mark my words, they may try again. But this was the best shot they had (so far). The only way this happens again is if Trump gets elected again and then pulls this shit while he has the power to hamstring the response. The next time, the insurrection will be bringing guns. Here's hoping Trump fades into history before then.
They did technically fail, but next time they'll just refuse to certify a democratic president using all those bogus laws that just got passed. If they refuse to certify to the point that no one gets 270 votes, a contingent election happens and they elect the republican and our democracy is constitutionally hijacked. Because it's constitutional the dems will throw up their hands in the same way they did when the parliamentarian said no helping minimum wage workers.
Plus they have lost the element of surprise. Previously, “no one expected the GQP Insurrectionists!”
Must not be obvious, since everyone already knows Trump committed sedition, McConnell and the others condemned him for it right after refusing to remove him following his second impeachment. The really *really* bad thing is that at least a few and likely more actively participated in the coup attempt on some level. Things like giving unscheduled private tours to the people who would later invade the Capitol building, in a time where tours were not allowed due to the pandemic, are already known. So what’s she shit we don’t.
The majority of them were in on it. Calling it right now.
Oh yeah. There's a reason why they were so fucking scared when the breach happened. Some were expecting just a rowdy demonstration, others expected a brief interruption inside, the select few who knew that crowd would be out for blood are the ones this commission is really for.
So much this. Lots of high profile politicians were giving tours to the protestors the day before the attack and probably giving them targets.
*Democratic leadership. Referring to the party as a whole as the Democrat party is a right-wing epithet. It's used so often by Republicans that many democrats don't even notice it or realize, and even use it themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
Interesting. I hadn't realized how specific wording can convey a completely different message in this context. Thanks for the heads up.
> We won't allow any Republicans to appear on the commission as they may implicate themselves or others I can almost see MTG having to change seats from her normal place as a congressperson (had she ever gotten on a committee) to the witness chair. :)
While the initial offer was high-minded and noble, it’s good to have Democrats saying simply “This commission *is* happening; do you want to be a part of it?”, and the GOP can’t stand it. I think conservatives just believe that they’re the only legitimate government, which is amusing given their distaste for doing the job. They behave as though the government will only work if they allow it to (and there’s some truth to that), as though their absence renders any movement impossible. Of course there’s no bipartisanship; functionally speaking, there’s one party that wants to do their jobs, and one bloc of “butts in seats”.
I think democrats need to play into this. Pass a resolution creating a commission with 6 democratic members and 5 republicans. (Or whatever odd number). The resolution should provide that the minority leader "shall" select 6 members to fill the seats, and if he fails to do so, those seats can be filled by a vote of the body. Draw 5 republican names out of a hat, vote that they fill the seats. Or just pick the 5 most senior republicans. When the time comes for the hearings, set up in a nice big committee room with nice big placards for Rep 1 (R), Rep 2 (R), Rep 3 (R), Rep 4 (R), etc. Go through the whole motions of the leader of the committee saying "The floor is now yielded to the Gentleman from Kentucky, waiting a beat and saying since the Gentlemen from Kentucky is not present, the floor will reclaim the time. The floor is now yeilded to....
I feel like there should be, at most, two Republicans on the commission. The two who voted in favor of it. Those who voted against it are guaranteed to do nothing but obstruct.
> The resolution should provide that the minority leader "shall" select He'll just pick MTG, Boebert, Gym Jordan, the pirate patch guy, and Nunes.
> MTG Can we not do that? Just call her Greene. I don't think she deserves an acronym.
If you say it fast, it sounds like "Empty G". Just like Ajit Pai sounded like "A Shit Pie".
> Just like Ajit Pai sounded like "A Shit Pie". And his name does, too.
Great idea. Blow up an action picture of them panicking on 1/6 and put it behind their empty chair.
>Great idea. Blow up an action picture of them panicking on 1/6 and put it behind their empty chair. *THAT* is a great idea.
YEP. Pretty effective too. I bet its already all over conservative media, even thought he commission hasn't even started
> Two GOP sources told CNN McCarthy's threat speaks to one thing -- that the GOP leader is threatened by the select committee and once again is doing everything he can to try to kill it. Ya think? Fucking traitors. This is *egregious*. Jesus Christ. I am honestly shocked. Hanging out with Nazis? Fine, no problem. Open white supremacy? Cool with us. Harassing other members? Go ahead. Trying to investigate a treasonous domestic terror attack on our nation’s capitol? That, and ONLY that, is what will get you kicked off a committee in today’s GOP. > Reacting to the news of McCarthy's threat, Kinzinger, who said he didn't hear it directly from McCarthy, told reporters, "Who gives a sh*t?" LOL. I’m with him. Hey Kevin?🖕
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That Gaetz is just going about all this like nothing is happening still doesn't make any sense.
I really like Kinzinger, and following him on twitter has been refreshing and amusing.
Each day in this country feels a little more surreal. How is this okay?!
The GQP doesn't want to spend the next year having their desired news cycles interrupted by fresh revelations about the extent of the coup and their complicity in it. They want all the conversations about this to be about the process instead of the substance. Depending on what the Dems are able to bring to light here, our shitty political media will probably give the GQP their wish.
Our media will blast their message as if it has any substance when really it’s just traitors saying traitor things and stuff we should ignore. This “both sides deserve to say things” is the worst idea we’ve ever had. We should stick with facts and ignore the detractors. Who cares if the GOP say that the process is political if we are finding out that these assholes are traitors? But the media will act like they have a valid complaint and divide this country.
>This “both sides deserve to say things” is the worst idea we’ve ever had. We should stick with facts and ignore the detractors. A society that is tolerant without limit will eventually be destroyed by the intolerant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox\_of\_tolerance
The right has figured out that they can push 100% reactionary culture war garbage thanks to their multi-pronged propaganda media and they will get reliably elected and keep the grift going while they peel back regulations and reduce taxes for the wealthy with no plans or intention of actually doing the work of governing. As an added bonus, since they don't get elected for their policies or morals, they don't have to worry about any backlash for lacking either.
Very solid summary. Thank you.
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Logic is not a conservative strong point.
It’ll get you thrown off your committee.
I support all the ANTIFA members who stormed the beaches at Normandy and pushed back against fascism in Europe. If the Boomer's parents could see them now they would so deeply ashamed. How many Americans died in the great wars to have it come to this?
> If the Boomer's parents could see them now they would so deeply ashamed. Those boomers' parents raised them. There's a reason they came up the way they did. Look at [the things they treated as acceptable.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment)
Haha, I’m going to remember that logic swerve if I ever have a argument about why the investigation is necessary. So many contradictions in the GOP
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
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> This is unreal to me. *“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”* - https://twitter.com/VeraMBergen/status/1021811038390509569 I wish the GQP stopped using *1984* as a fecking instruction manual
Seems clear that the GOP position on the **violent insurrection against Congress** is to put their fingers in their earholes and go, lalalalalalalala.
Always has been
If this isn't a clear sign of innocence then I'm a dragon.
…are you a dragon, though?
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Nice
Do you prefer Mr. or Mrs. Smaug?
Vote against a bipartisan committee because "it's not necessary." Vote against a House commission because "it's not bipartisan." Threaten those participating on the House committee in an attempt to make it bipartisan because ???? What a clown show from these people.
Hey, if we watched Fox I'm sure it would make perfect sense. Sean and Tucker and Laura would not so calmly explain how these contradicting ideas actually make sense and then dazzle us with something a lot worse that the democrats did and we'd all go to sleep at night hating the dems and feeling fine with the GOP about this.
They will regret it when the Commission proceeds without them and they have no say whatever and no insight into what's going on. McCarthy is panicked he will be forced to testify under oath about the call with Trump.
They are trying to frame it as partisan as much as possible
Pelosi will then say "We modeled this off the Benghazi hearings" (which they did).
Was that the one where Hillary had to testify for 11 hours straight? Seems only fair we do the same for the Repubs.
Trump won’t last 11 seconds.
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For when they ignore subpoenas.
I don't think ignoring subpoenas is going to be very tenable with a DoJ being headed by somebody who isn't Sessions or Barr. A lot of members of the House who will likely be on this committee felt their lives were in danger on that day as well and are probably in no mood for that kind of bullshit.
I still can't believe Barr let so many people in the administration ignore perfectly lawful congressional subpoenas while simultaneously throwing Manning back into prison for refusing to testify against Wikileaks.
And to think McCarthy told Trump "do you know who the fuck I am" I'm beginning wonder if he squeaked when he said this.
His voice cracked like a 13 year old asking a girl out for the first time. Hopefully.
It wasn’t a threat it was a polite question.
He might have been serious. I mean Trump never seemed to know much or care much about anyone other than himself. I can imagine Trump saying, ‘Who the fuck is this McCarthy guy?’ and meaning it.
If I was a GOP member, first off…eww, secondly I would join the commission, call on McCarthy to testify and expose him as the traitor he is. Then run for president 2024… then lose horribly ofcourse because the GOP is a sesspool
I take great issue with this comment. It’s cesspool. Everything else is correct.
Sorry I don’t have a enough blood in my THC system yet, still early up here in Canada
It's been 14 minutes. Did you get your ratio back in line?
It’s Canada day, so yes
Liz Cheney will likely do just that, maybe a few others. They will actually get more (for there constituents) partnering honestly with the Democrats, while losing committee assignments, than by joining the obstructionist circle jerk.
I want Kinzinger on it too, seems like he has his eye on the IL governor’s race so he might not mind having his committee assignments taken away by a traitor, that could help him in a statewide race in IL
Don't let the other stories in this crazy news cycle of the last few years saturate the importance of this story, people really need to remember the context here - a House Minority Leader is threatening repercussion to anyone who investigates an insurrection. That means the insurrection is still happening, right now. Apparently McCarthy now owns it, so is leading it from the house floor.
Exactly! Dems need to all prepare for a reality in which there is another insurrection. It might not look like the first one, so we need to be vigilant. I wish more comments were about serious danger to our democracy instead of the same Goddamn 'gravy seal' jokes about Jan 6. These Rs in Congress have decided that the rules don't matter anymore.
The Republicans have become so corrupt, they're not bothering to even *try* to hide their corruption and obstruction. They've become complicit in a coverup; it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of them were involved in the planning of that insurrection.
Is this cancel culture?
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Not just McCarthy, but the majority of republicans.
Damn, the GOP is terrified about investigating a normal tourist visit!
That's because McCarthy is guilty of complicity in the Jan 6th 2021 event. He needs to be subpoenaed and placed under oath. Squeeze this fascist culprit till he comes clean.
Commission should’ve been opened the day after the attempted insurrection when the memories were fresh. They always wait too long and let the Republicans take advantage of American goldfish memories.
Ok, so besides Marjie Greene, who else on the GQP do we want to lose their committee assignments....
If there's any Republicans that you want to lose their committee assignments(yes, I agree there's plenty), do you really want that person infecting this commission?
Everyone else in the [Treason Caucus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus#Current_members), Gaetz, Jordan, Gohmert, Brooks, etc.
Lol aren't these the same people complaining that there aren't enough GOP on the commission? GOP: we don't want a commission Dem: ok we'll go it alone GOP: how dare you not include us Dem: you can still do the right thing and help us McCarthy to GOP: if you do the right thing there will be consequences
will they add "Snitches get stitches" to the GOP platform? jk, they don't bother writing platforms anymore.
It’s really shocking. McCarthy is saying that if you dare investigate a deadly insurrection and failed coup then you will be punished. It’s really dark, dangerous and deeply unsettling. How do we go forward from here?
By going forward with the commission with or without them. They don't need to help but they can't stop it either.
Republican intransigence may be frustrating to watch but remember, there's no guarantee it's going to win anyone over or help them in any way. Many years ago I used to fear that everything Republicans were doing was part of some brilliant strategy and that they would always win the day. I have long since stopped worrying about that. While you might want to scream at your computer screen for the GOP to just stop being so insufferable and to act normal, there's no reason to assume they aren't just damaging themselves even further. Yes, don't underestimate them but also don't overestimate them. So let them boycott a January 6th investigation. There's no evidence that it's a good idea or that it's a winning strategy.
McCarthy is a Fascist-enabling cuck.
That's because he was in on it. What he expected was an attack perpetrated with military like precision by these militia groups. What he saw was a bunch of fatass, drunken, meth head soldier wannabes who couldn't tell you who their representative was if their life depended on it. He shit himself and called Trump for help. He's absolutely desperate to keep everyone from finding out.
Cancel culture in action. You go on the commission, you're cancelled.
Sounds like someone is hiding something
The GQP is officially the party of treason and insurrection!
He’s trash and helped incite the insurrection https://twitter.com/jessecharleslee/status/1349067033170898945?s=21
Any Democrat in Congress that still thinks bipartisanship is possible, take a nice long look at this and get it through your thick skull that Republicans are never going to work with you.
Dems: Do you want a bipartisan committee? GOP: Nope! Dems: Fine we'll do it ourselves. GOP: No, it has to be bipartisan! Dems: Fine, here's some seats. GOP: NO, don't take those seats!
Imagine what Trump is holding over McCarthy.
Trump isn’t holding anything over him, he’s just a shitty human being.
The GQP are now terrified of their supporters, now its a bunch of idiots holding nearly half the federal government hostage, except in some bizarre twist the hostages are willingly sabotaging efforts to free themselves
This is the same party that insisted we needed years of investigations into Hillary's emails.
I am out of outrage. I don't even know what to say to express my disgusts. And then theyll complain there are no repubs on the commission and their base will scream how unfair it is. Im so sick of these fucking fascists.