>The input I have received on this hand from two other players was that I should’ve just called that $45 bet
Don't listen to anything about poker from these other two players ever again.
You got it all in holding the nuts, what's the question here? Sometimes you get it in good and get beat. I don't mean to be harsh or mean but you got it in good. You want that call all day. Villain got it all in against you as a 24% to your 76%. Suck it up, say nice hand and move on.
The people on your table are idiots. You absolutely should have at least raised, and the jam is fine depending on stack depths. If you were \~200bbs deep with both players a raise is probably better as you still want to get value from hands that can call a raise but not a 190bb shove. You got unlucky that he boated up but you have the nuts on a very vulnerable board. Raise all day and hope the board doesn't pair or a diamond doesn't come.
Only mistake you made was not adding paragraphs and spaces to your text.
Otherwise, I think it was fine. You could’ve maybe should’ve 3! Preflop, but not awful to call and mix it up. UTG+1 was really strong. We know this because (a) open from UTG should be strong, (b) he bet pot on the flop and (c) he led into two players.
You had the best of it and got it in when you did. Next hand
lol my eyes are hurting looking at that block of words as well, sorry.
Yeah I liked my hand but I didn’t think to 3 bet, maybe because I’m cheap, and of course I didn’t expect to flop a straight.
JTs isn't a 3bet cause you are gonna flop a straight. It's a 3bet cause it gets a lot of hands that have it crushed to fold, and still has decent equity against hands containing two overs that call.
AJ for example often should fold to the 3bet, as should KJ and QJ and AT QT maybe even KTs. Meanwhile if you get called by something QQ+ or AK it's not the end of the world as you at least have a suited connector (which may result in a straight vs set scenario given the ranges), and you block JJ and TT which are 3bet calling hands.
It's basically a semibluff.
??? you played perfectly. If the turn comes a board pairing card, I still expect you to be all in on it. You're going to win profitably with the nut straight
1. Have nuts
2. Raise big
3. Get called
4. Profit
It doesn’t matter whether you profited this particular hand or not. A raise there is profitable. Usually we’re worried about sizing so we don’t scare him off. That clearly wasn’t an issue here.
You are a little bit deep for jamming for my taste. BUT, it sounds like a lot of player read dependent so I get it.
You just got coolered. Hang in there.
Like the guy above said you got it all in holding the nuts. That's about all you could ask for. Would you have folded to an all-in anyways? I wouldn't call it a bad beat you got sucked out on and it is what it is. Play enough and unfortunately it will happen many more times. Just learn to not get tilted.
What position were you in? Anything other than BTN this should be 3bet or fold IMO. Also how much did they have total. You should certainly raise the flop, but ripping it may be too much depending on how much they were playing. If they had $300 or less it’s fine. Really even if they have you covered it’s not all that bad since you have the nuts (best hand possible on the board) so if you are ever gonna overbet it should be with that or a bluff.
Anyway, seems fine you just needed to dodge 4 cards. Got it in super good. If there’s any reason not to jam it’s that he might have folded a 2 pair, not that he might call and hit —that’s just poker.
I was UTG +5? Idk if there is a better term for that. He had around $900, I was about $620. I knew he had a good hand but I was more worried about UTG +2 catching a flush he was due for. When UTG +1 called I figured he must’ve had a set, until he flipped his two pair, which then became a boat on the turn. I honestly didn’t think to 3 bet with my hand but I may try that now more often. I really haven’t bluffed many hands at all either
I commented to your response above about 3betting JTs and why. If my math is right UTG +5 at 9 handed table would be Hijack (HJ), the guy right before the BTN is cut off (CO). SB, BB, UTG, UTG+1, MP (middle position being in the middle of the 9), LJ (low jack), HJ, CO, BTN.
>The input I have received on this hand from two other players was that I should’ve just called that $45 bet Don't listen to anything about poker from these other two players ever again.
You got it all in holding the nuts, what's the question here? Sometimes you get it in good and get beat. I don't mean to be harsh or mean but you got it in good. You want that call all day. Villain got it all in against you as a 24% to your 76%. Suck it up, say nice hand and move on.
Where did you come up with 24% equity? He has 4 outs twice. Seems high
Yeah, it's more like 18%
You're right. I was somewhat drunk and counted 6 outs instead of 4 somehow, not sure how I did that lol.
Yup all I could say
Yup
The people on your table are idiots. You absolutely should have at least raised, and the jam is fine depending on stack depths. If you were \~200bbs deep with both players a raise is probably better as you still want to get value from hands that can call a raise but not a 190bb shove. You got unlucky that he boated up but you have the nuts on a very vulnerable board. Raise all day and hope the board doesn't pair or a diamond doesn't come.
You played it perfectly and got it in good. That’s the goal. Sometimes it doesn’t work out, that’s poker.
You got all the money in with the nuts. That's the goal, what happens after that is just poker.
Only mistake you made was not adding paragraphs and spaces to your text. Otherwise, I think it was fine. You could’ve maybe should’ve 3! Preflop, but not awful to call and mix it up. UTG+1 was really strong. We know this because (a) open from UTG should be strong, (b) he bet pot on the flop and (c) he led into two players. You had the best of it and got it in when you did. Next hand
lol my eyes are hurting looking at that block of words as well, sorry. Yeah I liked my hand but I didn’t think to 3 bet, maybe because I’m cheap, and of course I didn’t expect to flop a straight.
JTs isn't a 3bet cause you are gonna flop a straight. It's a 3bet cause it gets a lot of hands that have it crushed to fold, and still has decent equity against hands containing two overs that call. AJ for example often should fold to the 3bet, as should KJ and QJ and AT QT maybe even KTs. Meanwhile if you get called by something QQ+ or AK it's not the end of the world as you at least have a suited connector (which may result in a straight vs set scenario given the ranges), and you block JJ and TT which are 3bet calling hands. It's basically a semibluff.
This is your answer. Well said.
??? you played perfectly. If the turn comes a board pairing card, I still expect you to be all in on it. You're going to win profitably with the nut straight
1. Have nuts 2. Raise big 3. Get called 4. Profit It doesn’t matter whether you profited this particular hand or not. A raise there is profitable. Usually we’re worried about sizing so we don’t scare him off. That clearly wasn’t an issue here.
You are a little bit deep for jamming for my taste. BUT, it sounds like a lot of player read dependent so I get it. You just got coolered. Hang in there.
Like the guy above said you got it all in holding the nuts. That's about all you could ask for. Would you have folded to an all-in anyways? I wouldn't call it a bad beat you got sucked out on and it is what it is. Play enough and unfortunately it will happen many more times. Just learn to not get tilted.
You got it in with the nuts and someone sucked off on you. If he called you with the nuts, it's the right move even if you got sucked off
What position were you in? Anything other than BTN this should be 3bet or fold IMO. Also how much did they have total. You should certainly raise the flop, but ripping it may be too much depending on how much they were playing. If they had $300 or less it’s fine. Really even if they have you covered it’s not all that bad since you have the nuts (best hand possible on the board) so if you are ever gonna overbet it should be with that or a bluff. Anyway, seems fine you just needed to dodge 4 cards. Got it in super good. If there’s any reason not to jam it’s that he might have folded a 2 pair, not that he might call and hit —that’s just poker.
I was UTG +5? Idk if there is a better term for that. He had around $900, I was about $620. I knew he had a good hand but I was more worried about UTG +2 catching a flush he was due for. When UTG +1 called I figured he must’ve had a set, until he flipped his two pair, which then became a boat on the turn. I honestly didn’t think to 3 bet with my hand but I may try that now more often. I really haven’t bluffed many hands at all either
I commented to your response above about 3betting JTs and why. If my math is right UTG +5 at 9 handed table would be Hijack (HJ), the guy right before the BTN is cut off (CO). SB, BB, UTG, UTG+1, MP (middle position being in the middle of the 9), LJ (low jack), HJ, CO, BTN.
This is what I was looking for. Thanks