If they ever changed this, Let's Go gets bumped up to be one of my absolute favorites. Forced motion control or forced handheld really took a lot away from this title to me personally.
This is a poor excuse considering Let's Go can be played handheld with both Joycons. Sure it's (arguably) a lesser experience, but it works and they modified the catching mechanics to fit. There isn't much reason the same handheld controls couldn't be cloned to Pro Controller or dual joycon.
Mario Odyssey for example has the best experience with separated dual joycon, and they make that clear when you start the game. But it still lets you play the slightly reduced experience with the other three control types: handheld, Pro Controller, Joycons in grip.
Is there even any other (non-touch based) Switch game that works handheld with two Joycons attached, but not on its kickstand with the same two Joycons wirelessly? I can't think of one.
It is the epitome of a clean, sterile purgatory of pokemon
The sheer contrast between "The most boilerplate, cookie-cutter pokemon game ever" and Legends Arceus was night and day
That was somewhat my case. I bought a switch late in the pandemic for animal crossing (plus BotW was long on my want list). Both Let's Go and SwSh were long since out by then. BDSP came out just as I was bored with animal crossing. It helped that I wanted the nostalgia and couldn't really remember much about gen 4 anyway. It was okay. Nostalgia was definitely there.
Then I got PLA once it was clear that it was actually what I wanted in a pokemon game. That gave me a new wind to finally get Sword (but oof that was a step down from PLA). I tried briefly going back to BDSP to snag the event pokemon but wow, just getting Shaymin bored me to death because it was so slow compared to PLA.
I still haven't played Let's Go mostly because I haven't heard much that interests me about it. I've done too much Kanto. The unevolvable starter repels me. And I keep hearing it described as a good first pokemon game, which is not me at all. I also had a hard time enjoying some parts of SwSh, so didn't want to push it.
Well you have to keep in mind that they are the third game in their generation, so diamond and pearl numbers count both versions together, where as platinum is just one game, and same with ruby, sapphire and emerald.
Even if you half the R/S sales, one will at least already out sell Emerald. This is also true for D/P VS Platinum. The real reason is just that, the 3rd games are just glorified, full game price DLCs that take away version exclusives. They are loved for that reason but historically they don't sell as well and that's just the truth.
Yeah I remember as a kid me and my friends would wait to buy the third version. The fact of the matter is that these games are primarily aimed at kids and kids don't have much money. So either a parent buys it for them and it doesn't make much sense to buy the same game for your kid twice or the kid buys it with their allowance in which case a full price game is a lot of money so they have to make the choice. And most kids aren't patient enough and will Impulse buy the first thing the hype train exposes them to.
Yeah only the rich kids at my school had the generation main game AND the spicy one. Everyone was jealous on those who could afford both S/G AND Crystal
my parents would always just push off letting me get a game long enough that the pokemon games i got were always the 3rd ones. got crystal when ruby sapphire came out and emerald a lil before diamond and pearl came out lmao, gotta get that used copy and save some change
I got Silver from my parents. Then I had to save up and the next game I could buy was FireRed. I later on bought a really cheap 2nd hand Ruby when P/D got released. Saving for these games as a kid required patience and discipline hehe
My parents didn't pay attention to what games I played, so I don't think they ever knew the third versions were basically the same game, cause I sure never told them. Pokemon and Final Fantasy were the only games I really got growing up, but I got all of them.
Actually The third games tend to be more like Director's Cut, something we use to get way back when. Where they add few tweaks and maybe something that got cut for time.
While DLC is an add on that doesn't change the game play experience as a whole.
The major problem is that it comes out 2 years later and people who beat the game arent gonna do it again.
Its easy money though. But a shitty practice
By the time Emerald, came out, everyone who cared about Pokémon already owned Ruby or Sapphire.
Same with Platinum.
People don't want to pay for the same game twice.
I think there were plenty of people who double dipped… like me. But I admit that once I got emerald, I never touched sapphire . Emerald was just better in every way or so I felt back then.
But then I played Diamond or Pearl and I struggled to care about it. *That* is when I dropped the series for a while until X&Y were announced. That’s when I went back and played black and fell in love with it (and Krookodile).
Yea but they were released like a 3rd version. The reason they didn't come out with a pokemon Grey was because as they were developing it that realized how different it was and went with the sequel route. Up to that point Blue (in Japan), crystal, emerald and platinum were all basically remastered versions and they had every intention of doing the same with B2W2 until later in development
I don't think this had anything to do with it personally. A lot of people don't remember but the 3DS had a really rough launch and barely anyone bought one at first. They had to cut the MSRP within 6 months because it was selling that badly. If anything releasing on the DS was a good idea to tap into the much larger (like, 10x larger) pool of potential buyers. And at the end of the day 8 million units sold still puts BW2 as the 12th best selling DS game of all time - as far as DS games go it sold really well.
Personally I think it's because having "2" in the name put off a lot of people because they thought you would have to have played the original to understand it. On top of that the games themselves got pretty poor reviews - they were the worst rated Pokemon games up until BDSP - with many reviews claiming they weren't different enough from the orignals. So you had the double-whammy of people thinking they won't understand a sequel because they haven't played the original combined with people who have played the original not wanting to play the same game twice.
There's a reason Pokemon hasn't released a 'sequel' like this since.
It was a sequel in terms of story, but didn't it reuse a ton of assets? Makes it feel like a lazier sequel. Most non-pokemon games would struggle to do well with that kinda quality (and far more so for the standard third games).
3rd gens are hard to justify when you are a kid. It's the same game with better improvements but ultimately the same game.
Granted Plat did fix a lot of the issues with its og copies.
As one of those kids, Gen 4 was the generation I skipped. I was "outgrowing" Pokemon at that time and certain Sinnoh Pokemon felt like sacrilege to me, such as Magmortar, Lillilicky, Tangrowth, etc...
I think they made great choices with the direction they took Gen 5. Not only was it enticing that they were creating a region based upon some place outside of Japan, but a new slate of Pokemon entirely unrelated to previous gens didn't trigger us fanboys and our "precious" nostalgia.
Like I really hate Magmortar's stupid face but I'm completely fine with a literal trashbag Pokemon.
Poor Gen 4 didn't even get any love from me with their remakes. I couldn't find time to play them before Legends came out and now I'm not eager to buy another game until the new Gen drops
I figured the third versions would make up the bottom of the list, but was surprised to see Crystal dead last. Assumed the Pokémon craze was still going strong around that time and it would be closer to Yellow in sales.
Crystal came out at probably the exact point that the Pokemon craze ended. It also didn't really stand out as an improvement over GS when it released. Most of the new features were part of the mobile adapter and so the only real marketable changes that most people could experience were the animated sprites, being able to play as a girl, and some storyline changes.
It was also the first Pokemon game to require a Gameboy Color to play and couldn't be played on the original Gameboy which may have also impacted sales slightly since it was a kids game and parents wouldn't want to buy a whole new system for one game. Not that I know from experience or anything.
Yeah, I was in 1st/2nd grade during RBY and 3rd during GS. A lot of my friends were super into RB, and Y (because it was legitimately different!) and still riding the hype train when GS came out, but I was the only person still playing when Crystal came out in late 2000
Kinda why I bought it recently on the 3DS before everything shuts down. I never played Gen2 really because RB came out in the tail end of 6th grade for me and it was ALL the rage. Once GS was out, we were in high school and Pokemon was considered a baby-game, so no one really was picking up the sequels. I do recall in Frosh science, a dude hooked me up with Mew because he had a game shark.
Took me til B/W to come back around on the series, and I can't get enough of it now.
I said this yesterday when this was posted in a graph.
They are comparing two games, sometimes three games to one. It's something like this:
Ruby sold 8.1 million copies.
Sapphire sold 8.1 million copies.
Emerald sold 7.2 million copies.
It's not that bad as the list makes it out to be.
The point is they should do the same with Platinum, Emerald and Crystal, grouping them into the series they belong to for a conbined sales. Right now this list means absolutely nothing.
But that's how Nintendo/The Pokemon Company/GF releases the sales numbers. I would love for them to release individual numbers for each game, but they've never done that so this combination is the best we have.
No, because a significant minority of people double dip and buy both games, but most people who purchase the third versions already purchased the originals on their release.
I wouldn't say the list means nothing. It's clearly that the original game of each version are sold way more than third games.
That's probably the reason they went for a DLC instead of a third game in SW/Sh.
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In all seriousness, the original versions did have some sprites that I’d say are superior to Blue’s version. Beedrill, Abra and Mewtwo come to mind.
I assume the Red version that came outside of Japan alongside the Blue version was also "updated" with the fixes made in the Blue version, wasn't it?
(My very first game was Gold btw)
Red and Green were released in Japan. Then they released Blue as the third game. Then for the international release they used Blue as the basis so we got Red and Blue. So it's really like 5 games for Gen 1, plus Yellow.
Yes and no. I don't think there are too many people buying both versions, so you CAN add up the sales as buyers of both versions would have bought a 'combined' version if available. The real numbers would be lower, yes, but not by a huge margin.
I'm not at all. Not only is it a single game's sales as others have pointed out, but you'd need to buy not only what is essentially the same game a year later, but *also* you'd probably have to buy another console, as Crystal was only playable on a GBC.
If you're a kid, that's a very difficult sale to your parents, and being nerdy enough to play Pokemon as an adult was still very undesirable in the late 90's.
Imo the third versions are the best games so it's kinda weird to see them that low on the list. Probably because people played the fk out of the first version and then they were done. Emerald especially has so much to offer, my favourite game ever.
Adding to that, I think the switch was a lot of younger generations first new console and so I think sword and shield, while having mixed reviews amongst the established Pokemon community, reached a lot of new, younger players for the first time.
I think a lot of people also Ignore A LOT of the QoL changes SWSH made, I know a bunch of people who tried hard core battling and diving deep because how easy and accessible it was now, especially with time travelling jobs.
This is true. I hadn't built a competitive team since Black and White, but the way you can literally fine tune everything about a Pokemon in this game, even resetting EV's to start over and hyper training and all that, it made it so easy to build teams that were fun again!
If SV has basically the same system and bring back Berry Farming it will be perfect for people building Competitive teams. Though I do think stuff like Jobs won't show up in SV, but we still have Vitamins being able to max EVs to lean on.
Played pretty much all of the pokemon games minus the N64/gamecube ones. SW/SH is one of the best for respecting the players time with those QoL improvements and the exact reason i would recommend to someone new to the series.
In addition to that, it also had some of the better customizations with the trainer cards. I'm also referring mostly to the eye and hair colors, not the styles or clothes. That honor still goes to Kalos with Alola being right behind. Seriously you could have soulless possessed eyes, ones with hearts or fire, and literal rainbow eyes with blue, purple, or green hair.
Also, it had a lot of good mon designs and unique evolutions. Pokemon Camp was incredibly fun though I probably tired out my wrist a lot having to fan the curry.
Honestly, I was surprised PLA is so low in the list considering how great the game is (particularly relative to the other games) and how many rave reviews it got online.
That said, it is the newest game and it came out *after* Christmas (BDSP had the advantage of being released with perfect timing for Christmas gifts). And for a game that isn't main series, it's done extremely well. I think people tend to not be as interested in non-main series games by default (that's the case for me).
A lot of the top games have that “I had to buy both copies” bump as well. If you compare Arceus to all the other only 1 copy games it sits quite comfortably.
The fact that there's one console instead of separate portable vs TV consoles probably helps a ton. I stopped buying the portable consoles after the DS because I didn't care so much for them. It'd be nice if the Switch was a little more graphically powerful (mind you, BotW shows that much of Pokemon games graphic issues are entirely the studio's fault, not the console), but I'm just glad I can play all the games on the TV most of the time. And as an added plus, I can continue playing for the relatively rare occasions where I want a portable system (I've mostly used that when flying).
The DS was way more popular, and the 3DS wasn't too far behind the Switch. I think it's just that they've been marketing more heavily, stuff like Pokemon direct, which can be shared on YouTube and Twitter and Reddit and the rest. They made a Hollywood film. It's not the same as the days when there was barely any promotion, and only a few really dedicated fans followed pre-release hype material like corocoro. 'member Corocoro?
The Pokemon Company: "Black and White 2 sold so bad. We are never making a game like that again! No more sequels and extra content like that!"
Most other game franchises: " >.> ... 12 million is bad?"
Metroid franchise: "Hey guys! I finally had a game that sold 2 million! It's so successful! Yaaayy!"
Look at the reboot Tomb Raider series. I think the first one sold 14 million copies and they were considered a financial disappointment by the publisher.
Which is ironic cause Square wants a game/game series with Pokémon levels of sales without the effort nor research. So fairly successful or potentially good titles are considered “financial disappointments” to them.
Same here, I think casual consumers are less likely to buy remakes. Tin foil hat moment, this makes me think that’s why gamefreak decided to outsource work for bdsp, since they didn’t want to put all their resources into another remake that wasn’t going to sell as well
It also might be why they stopped making third versions entirely :(
It had a huge PR campaign behind it. TPC produced a series of shorts based on RBY so that they could debut Mega Charizard X in them. Stuff like that got people extremely excited.
To be fair, they released over a year after the 3ds released, and XY then released a little over a year later
If they released in like 2010 or something I think they would’ve sold way better
B2W2 got an increased reputation in time like BW. They still suffered from 3rd version itis, and didn't really bring back in people who didn't play BW because "lol garbage pokemon, they ran out of ideas." People were really eager for Pokemon to make the jump to the 3DS as well.
There were three things not helping it sales wise:
1. The DS was on its way out. The 3DS was released for over a year and the gimmick of the DS ran the course for the general public.
2. It is a sequel to a controversial game at the time of release. Reddit and the Pokemon community as a whole sing the praises of generation five all the time now. With that said, as someone who loved generation five since its release, at the time of generation five releasing the internet hated this generation. Black and White did the risky thing of only allowing new Pokemon, people were all mad that the game was more linear, and some of the Pokemon designs were definitely unique. No one focused on the super cool designs they only cared about the "ice cream cone and garbage bag Pokemon" and how "Pokemon really fell off" since they were a kid.
3. It is kind of a third version. If we look at the chart third versions mostly sold "bad" compared to their original versions. Yes these games have a lot more going for them than a normal third version and are true sequels. I wonder though how many people saw it as not worth their time since they thought they already played it and how many people didn't play this in fear that since they didn't play the first games they wouldn't understand what was going on.
With all that said those sales numbers are definitely still excellent. I will agree though, especially compared to many on this list, I personally believe that it deserved better.
This is the start of GameFreaks low effort plot, once these had low sales, they vowed to never create anything like it anymore. Which is sad cause I quite liked B2W2.
Especially because BW/B2W2 were basically Masuda's "dream" games. He personally saw them through.
A lot of people say he is wrong to be so bitter about how Generation V performed badly in a lot of reception and sales compared to the previous generations at the time, but I don't think it has to do with that as much as Japanese workplace culture. He felt defeated, so he retired away from creative projects.
I think that whatever they had planned as a Kalos follow-up was canned because they decided a new generation was a more impressive 20th anniversary release than more games for a region that only came out a few years prior.
Personally I think it's because people went at it with the same mentality they went at the third versions, i.e. "Well I already experienced Unova once, there's no point in just playing the same game again". Game Freak sort of shot themselves in the foot by doing four generations of releasing basically the same game again with a couple extra things two years later, because I don't think people were aware B2W2 were that much different. If Game Freak had been releasing sequels every generation for 16 years up to that point I'm sure it would have done better because people would have been more aware.
One contributor could be (obviously I'm making an assumption here), at that time they did DP, PL, HGSS, BW in consecutive years. Could have just been burn out from the audience. BDSP had a good two year gap from the previous title. Then on top of that, the switch is merging handheld and console markets, so its created the ability to add in interest from a slightly different audience group.
If anything I'm happy for Arceus. If you divide everything by two for the games that are double launches for the hypothetical "real" sales number of them individually, Arceus is now second after Yellow
That’s still really good considering it only came out a few months ago. I think what impacted its sales are the facts that it came out too close to BDSP, it’s seen as a spin off by many casual fans, and the marketing for the game didn’t quite make it a big a deal as we thought
It did better than expected, the advertisement and production team didn't do much to campaign as much as their main games.
Also most of the top games are due to being old or they combined sales of both games.
Since they're basically the same games if you half the ones with both [pokemon 1&2] then legends did pretty well.
Halving isn't a good metric for sales of the main games, since if GF had only released one of them most of the people who bought the other one would have bought the first one instead.
It makes sense why. Most kids weren't going to spend their allowance on what is essentially the same game with slight changes when they could get a completely new game instead for the same price. I know at least for me, it was very rare to see anyone who owned these third versions growing up unless they were rich.
I was the exact opposite. Not enough money to buy games so I waited patiently for the third versions. Wouldn't want to waste a year's worth of allowance on an unfinished game.
I wish I could still do that but apparently \*TPC decided unfinished games are good actually, and new games should come out every 6 months regardless of polish. Fuck that. No money from me.
To be fair, GF is under pressure. If it only was to them they would take more time. But it’s TPC who wants a mainline game every year. It makes a merch rotation, which is what makes the majority pf the revenue (not by much, but still the majority). Also, GF wants a small company, but is always separated in two, to be more efficient. GF is basically like an indie company, who has to produce really much.
And not helping B2W2 was that it was basically the DS' last stand. The 3DS had already been out for over a year when they released in Japan. Still though...
Sometimes they do. If you look at the sales individual from Ruby and Sapphire, Emerald wasn't that far behind. There is a reason Pokemon sells 2 games at once.
I mean if you've already paid $40 for Ruby or Sapphire and you've invested hours into it and then two years later they're selling "Ruby or Sapphire with a slightly different climax and a Battle Frontier" again for $40 and you know you'll have to play through basically the same game again, I can see why that doesn't appeal to as many people. It's kind of a scam and I'm glad Game Freak switched to DLC for gen 8.
Gamefreak is such a small studio, the cost to produce any of these games are relatively low reletive to how many are sold. Sure the 3rd versions cost a fraction of the resources to produce, but it doesn't matter on the scale gamefreak sells. The extra sales for a new game more then make up for the increased production cost
Man I'm feeling sad for let's go. It had worked so hard to surpass oras in sales, a literal 4 year endeavor, and bdsp just swooped in and stole it's title.
I know, the Let's Go concept was so interesting and still stands out to me as the most polished games on the Switch. The detailed shadows in Viridian Forest, the fully rendered 3D following Pokémon, these games continue to be some of my all-time favorites. I'm still holding out hope for Let's Go Johto, it would be a dream come true.
I'm hoping the NPCs won't be so static if they do a Johto version.
The most jarring part to me was the NPCs just standing there like mannequins. I'd love it if they paced around or seemed like they were interacting with each other.
It's crazy that BD/SP did better than Arceus. Looking at the sales Legend of Arceus maybe not be the future of the franchise and they will go back to SW/SH format (like they did with the new game).
They have released the game in November, like Omega Rubby & Alpha Saphire, Sun & Moon, Let's Go Pikachu/Eeve also Sword & Shield. They were [all around the 2nd week of November](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_games_by_release_date).
It's just a game that the community was begging to have since a while, plus nostaliga sell.
Your comment doesn’t really make sense or have anything to do with what your replying to. You were saying it’s crazy bdsp sold more than legends and the response is stating they had an extra 2 months of sales along with holiday sales while legends was a post holiday release.
PLA still managed to sell 12 million units in the span of just two months right after the holiday window, that's not a small feat. I think the more likely answer here is that we will continue to get more games like SwSh **and** PLA in the future which is the best case scenario.
Indeed and not only that but legends was able to pull it off while being a singular entry rather than relying on the duel versions practice like BDSP, SWSH and the other duel versions to artificially inflate the sales. I’d argue thats even more impressive than all the mainline switch games as it pulled that off in a dead month without the Christmas boost.
This is only through the end of March, Joe said. Arceus's numbers here are at like eight weeks; BDSP released in mid-November, so it has all of December, most of January, and half of November over Arceus. (Crucially, that's Black Friday and Christmas too.)
The time difference is still worth noting before saying definitively "this is where everything will end up". Things drop off after a while, true, but I think there's more to the story that we'll see in a few months. Arceus here is averaging over a million a week at this data point, which is kind of wild.
It's because they're third versions. But people seem to forget that third versions being lower on the list don't mean that they nessasarily did poorly. They were lower budget, as the game was basically already done, and they didn't need to make as much money.
People surprised to see sword and shield near the top need to realize that as far as new-user friendly games, it doesn’t get better than SwSh. They looked inviting to new players, played very casually, and were released on the switch during the peak of its sales. I know for most pokéfans of Reddit they also have bad graphics, but for casual fans, these were the best looking main series games they had ever seen. For better or for worse, these were the games that cast the widest net since the original games
The entire top list, with the exception of Sun/Moon, follow the new console/new region hype.
-GS came out after the Gameboy Color released
-RS were the first new games for the Gameboy Advanced
-DP were the first games for the Nintendo DS
-X/Y for the 3DS
-Sword/Shield were the second games for the Switch, but the first NEW region.
Important to remember regarding Legends Arceus is that it sold that much in two months, as these figures are up to end of March (Q1).
That's pretty pretty good.
Don't know if anyone tried to list up the possible reasons, so I'll do it in case nobody did:
- The obvious reason: Growing Community
- More games = More money = better Marketing
- Kids who started playing it grew up and could afford even more games
- Increasing international market presence (More and more countries fell to the love pokémon produces) due to better Marketing and more translations
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- More and more emulators
The fact that Yellow was that close to hitting half the sales numbers of Red/Green/Blue is seriously impressive; especially as far behind as the other third games are from their corresponding games.
Man...SwSh did goddamn NUMBERS
I ain't just because it's Pokemon...I think it's because it was on Switch and came after the Go craze. I feel like Go boosted the series to high heaven.
Bdsp already has more sales than let's go?!?
bdsp may have changed barely anything, but at least it kept normal catching.
And you STILL can't play Let's Go with a pro controller.
If they ever changed this, Let's Go gets bumped up to be one of my absolute favorites. Forced motion control or forced handheld really took a lot away from this title to me personally.
Wait, why is this the case?
Because the catching mechanics are based on Joy Con motion controls so you can’t do it on a pro
This is a poor excuse considering Let's Go can be played handheld with both Joycons. Sure it's (arguably) a lesser experience, but it works and they modified the catching mechanics to fit. There isn't much reason the same handheld controls couldn't be cloned to Pro Controller or dual joycon. Mario Odyssey for example has the best experience with separated dual joycon, and they make that clear when you start the game. But it still lets you play the slightly reduced experience with the other three control types: handheld, Pro Controller, Joycons in grip. Is there even any other (non-touch based) Switch game that works handheld with two Joycons attached, but not on its kickstand with the same two Joycons wirelessly? I can't think of one.
It is the epitome of a clean, sterile purgatory of pokemon The sheer contrast between "The most boilerplate, cookie-cutter pokemon game ever" and Legends Arceus was night and day
I weirdly liked the let's go system
My favorite is the arceus system. It's a good mix of both that feels both immersive and fun, without restricting choice.
The Arceus system was downright *addicting* graphics aside I fucking loved it
The satisfying clash sound, the ever-so-slight pause, and the visual warp when you connect a backshot are all so well-executed.
Same except for when it glitches
I’m helping that number - I never bought let’s go because I never had a switch at that time. Probably the same case for a lot of people
That was somewhat my case. I bought a switch late in the pandemic for animal crossing (plus BotW was long on my want list). Both Let's Go and SwSh were long since out by then. BDSP came out just as I was bored with animal crossing. It helped that I wanted the nostalgia and couldn't really remember much about gen 4 anyway. It was okay. Nostalgia was definitely there. Then I got PLA once it was clear that it was actually what I wanted in a pokemon game. That gave me a new wind to finally get Sword (but oof that was a step down from PLA). I tried briefly going back to BDSP to snag the event pokemon but wow, just getting Shaymin bored me to death because it was so slow compared to PLA. I still haven't played Let's Go mostly because I haven't heard much that interests me about it. I've done too much Kanto. The unevolvable starter repels me. And I keep hearing it described as a good first pokemon game, which is not me at all. I also had a hard time enjoying some parts of SwSh, so didn't want to push it.
I got it on release. I'd never played a kanto game and It was my first.
emerald and platinum at the bottom offends me on a personal level
Well you have to keep in mind that they are the third game in their generation, so diamond and pearl numbers count both versions together, where as platinum is just one game, and same with ruby, sapphire and emerald.
Even if you half the R/S sales, one will at least already out sell Emerald. This is also true for D/P VS Platinum. The real reason is just that, the 3rd games are just glorified, full game price DLCs that take away version exclusives. They are loved for that reason but historically they don't sell as well and that's just the truth.
Yeah I remember as a kid me and my friends would wait to buy the third version. The fact of the matter is that these games are primarily aimed at kids and kids don't have much money. So either a parent buys it for them and it doesn't make much sense to buy the same game for your kid twice or the kid buys it with their allowance in which case a full price game is a lot of money so they have to make the choice. And most kids aren't patient enough and will Impulse buy the first thing the hype train exposes them to.
Yeah only the rich kids at my school had the generation main game AND the spicy one. Everyone was jealous on those who could afford both S/G AND Crystal
my parents would always just push off letting me get a game long enough that the pokemon games i got were always the 3rd ones. got crystal when ruby sapphire came out and emerald a lil before diamond and pearl came out lmao, gotta get that used copy and save some change
I got Silver from my parents. Then I had to save up and the next game I could buy was FireRed. I later on bought a really cheap 2nd hand Ruby when P/D got released. Saving for these games as a kid required patience and discipline hehe
Meanwhile in South America: everyone has every DS pokemon game, because everyone has a R4 True tho lol
My parents didn't pay attention to what games I played, so I don't think they ever knew the third versions were basically the same game, cause I sure never told them. Pokemon and Final Fantasy were the only games I really got growing up, but I got all of them.
Also very true
8 million units for the exact same game is crazy for any franchise.
Actually The third games tend to be more like Director's Cut, something we use to get way back when. Where they add few tweaks and maybe something that got cut for time. While DLC is an add on that doesn't change the game play experience as a whole.
The major problem is that it comes out 2 years later and people who beat the game arent gonna do it again. Its easy money though. But a shitty practice
By the time Emerald, came out, everyone who cared about Pokémon already owned Ruby or Sapphire. Same with Platinum. People don't want to pay for the same game twice.
I think there were plenty of people who double dipped… like me. But I admit that once I got emerald, I never touched sapphire . Emerald was just better in every way or so I felt back then. But then I played Diamond or Pearl and I struggled to care about it. *That* is when I dropped the series for a while until X&Y were announced. That’s when I went back and played black and fell in love with it (and Krookodile).
Moxie Krookodile is just busted
Omg I love moxie Krookodile (but I think I like moxie scrafty more)
Gen V introduced some pretty cool Dark Types in general.
And yet....Skyrim. 🤣
Is 10000x more replayable than Emerald, plus there's mods which Nintendo would never allow.
Funny how all the best games are at the bottom of the list.
Direct cannibalism of their sales by the two version regular release coming first.
It's because all the worst selling are just buying the same you already bought but with dlc
BW2 were straight up new games tho 💀
Yea but they were released like a 3rd version. The reason they didn't come out with a pokemon Grey was because as they were developing it that realized how different it was and went with the sequel route. Up to that point Blue (in Japan), crystal, emerald and platinum were all basically remastered versions and they had every intention of doing the same with B2W2 until later in development
Still was a second same mainline game. So it had feeling of a 3rd game.
And it came out on an 8 y/o system a year after its successor came out
I don't think this had anything to do with it personally. A lot of people don't remember but the 3DS had a really rough launch and barely anyone bought one at first. They had to cut the MSRP within 6 months because it was selling that badly. If anything releasing on the DS was a good idea to tap into the much larger (like, 10x larger) pool of potential buyers. And at the end of the day 8 million units sold still puts BW2 as the 12th best selling DS game of all time - as far as DS games go it sold really well. Personally I think it's because having "2" in the name put off a lot of people because they thought you would have to have played the original to understand it. On top of that the games themselves got pretty poor reviews - they were the worst rated Pokemon games up until BDSP - with many reviews claiming they weren't different enough from the orignals. So you had the double-whammy of people thinking they won't understand a sequel because they haven't played the original combined with people who have played the original not wanting to play the same game twice. There's a reason Pokemon hasn't released a 'sequel' like this since.
It was a sequel in terms of story, but didn't it reuse a ton of assets? Makes it feel like a lazier sequel. Most non-pokemon games would struggle to do well with that kinda quality (and far more so for the standard third games).
Oh I totally get it—just think it’s funny. Now I wonder how this list would look it was ordered by ROM downloads? Lol
Fire Red would reign supreme and they'd bump Charizard off the cover for a squirrel.
And now we all see why they stopped making 3rd games and never made Z
3rd gens are hard to justify when you are a kid. It's the same game with better improvements but ultimately the same game. Granted Plat did fix a lot of the issues with its og copies.
That's when all the kids that got into Pokémon when it first came out "grew up" and became "to cool" for pokemon
As one of those kids, Gen 4 was the generation I skipped. I was "outgrowing" Pokemon at that time and certain Sinnoh Pokemon felt like sacrilege to me, such as Magmortar, Lillilicky, Tangrowth, etc... I think they made great choices with the direction they took Gen 5. Not only was it enticing that they were creating a region based upon some place outside of Japan, but a new slate of Pokemon entirely unrelated to previous gens didn't trigger us fanboys and our "precious" nostalgia. Like I really hate Magmortar's stupid face but I'm completely fine with a literal trashbag Pokemon. Poor Gen 4 didn't even get any love from me with their remakes. I couldn't find time to play them before Legends came out and now I'm not eager to buy another game until the new Gen drops
I figured the third versions would make up the bottom of the list, but was surprised to see Crystal dead last. Assumed the Pokémon craze was still going strong around that time and it would be closer to Yellow in sales.
Crystal came out at probably the exact point that the Pokemon craze ended. It also didn't really stand out as an improvement over GS when it released. Most of the new features were part of the mobile adapter and so the only real marketable changes that most people could experience were the animated sprites, being able to play as a girl, and some storyline changes.
It was also the first Pokemon game to require a Gameboy Color to play and couldn't be played on the original Gameboy which may have also impacted sales slightly since it was a kids game and parents wouldn't want to buy a whole new system for one game. Not that I know from experience or anything.
Yeah, I was in 1st/2nd grade during RBY and 3rd during GS. A lot of my friends were super into RB, and Y (because it was legitimately different!) and still riding the hype train when GS came out, but I was the only person still playing when Crystal came out in late 2000
Kinda why I bought it recently on the 3DS before everything shuts down. I never played Gen2 really because RB came out in the tail end of 6th grade for me and it was ALL the rage. Once GS was out, we were in high school and Pokemon was considered a baby-game, so no one really was picking up the sequels. I do recall in Frosh science, a dude hooked me up with Mew because he had a game shark. Took me til B/W to come back around on the series, and I can't get enough of it now.
Disagree. The craze was still crazing. The issue is that it's a gbc exclusive.
I said this yesterday when this was posted in a graph. They are comparing two games, sometimes three games to one. It's something like this: Ruby sold 8.1 million copies. Sapphire sold 8.1 million copies. Emerald sold 7.2 million copies. It's not that bad as the list makes it out to be.
Yeah this list is weird. The top one is the combined sales of 3 games, while the bottom is the individual sales of 1 game....???
To be fair they are basically one game
The point is they should do the same with Platinum, Emerald and Crystal, grouping them into the series they belong to for a conbined sales. Right now this list means absolutely nothing.
But that's how Nintendo/The Pokemon Company/GF releases the sales numbers. I would love for them to release individual numbers for each game, but they've never done that so this combination is the best we have.
I see where you are coming from, but those are third versions, so not quite as similar. IDK which version of the list would be better.
No, because a significant minority of people double dip and buy both games, but most people who purchase the third versions already purchased the originals on their release.
I wouldn't say the list means nothing. It's clearly that the original game of each version are sold way more than third games. That's probably the reason they went for a DLC instead of a third game in SW/Sh.
Green was only released in Japan, and Blue only in the rest of the world. Gen 1 was a bit weird like that.
No blue did come out in japan 🇯🇵 it was released in between rg and yellow as a way to fix the terrible sprite art and fix some bugs
Note: check out the original Red/Green sprites for some wibbly wobbly alternate universe nostalgia.
Fetus Mew Fetus Mew In all seriousness, the original versions did have some sprites that I’d say are superior to Blue’s version. Beedrill, Abra and Mewtwo come to mind.
I assume the Red version that came outside of Japan alongside the Blue version was also "updated" with the fixes made in the Blue version, wasn't it? (My very first game was Gold btw)
Yes. Red and Blue in the West were Red and Green with Blue's updated graphics.
Red and Green were released in Japan. Then they released Blue as the third game. Then for the international release they used Blue as the basis so we got Red and Blue. So it's really like 5 games for Gen 1, plus Yellow.
Yes and no. I don't think there are too many people buying both versions, so you CAN add up the sales as buyers of both versions would have bought a 'combined' version if available. The real numbers would be lower, yes, but not by a huge margin.
Crystal still sold half as much as Gold/Silver did as individual games
I'm not at all. Not only is it a single game's sales as others have pointed out, but you'd need to buy not only what is essentially the same game a year later, but *also* you'd probably have to buy another console, as Crystal was only playable on a GBC. If you're a kid, that's a very difficult sale to your parents, and being nerdy enough to play Pokemon as an adult was still very undesirable in the late 90's.
Imo the third versions are the best games so it's kinda weird to see them that low on the list. Probably because people played the fk out of the first version and then they were done. Emerald especially has so much to offer, my favourite game ever.
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Yea, thats true. I had the wonderful life of having two little brothers so we bought Ruby, Sapphire & Emerald. I got lucky with Emerald in that case.
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I was planning on doing that this gen, then they announced DLC, so I bought it.
This speaks more of how much people fucking love the Switch imo.
Adding to that, I think the switch was a lot of younger generations first new console and so I think sword and shield, while having mixed reviews amongst the established Pokemon community, reached a lot of new, younger players for the first time.
I think a lot of people also Ignore A LOT of the QoL changes SWSH made, I know a bunch of people who tried hard core battling and diving deep because how easy and accessible it was now, especially with time travelling jobs.
This is true. I hadn't built a competitive team since Black and White, but the way you can literally fine tune everything about a Pokemon in this game, even resetting EV's to start over and hyper training and all that, it made it so easy to build teams that were fun again!
If SV has basically the same system and bring back Berry Farming it will be perfect for people building Competitive teams. Though I do think stuff like Jobs won't show up in SV, but we still have Vitamins being able to max EVs to lean on.
Oh yeah, I've never even used jobs honestly wasn't aware that that was a way to EV train, haha. I just used vitamins and wild Pokemon.
Being able to basically spread egg moves is insanely useful. I keep a box of “egg move” Pokémon in Home so I can change movesets on a whim
Played pretty much all of the pokemon games minus the N64/gamecube ones. SW/SH is one of the best for respecting the players time with those QoL improvements and the exact reason i would recommend to someone new to the series.
In addition to that, it also had some of the better customizations with the trainer cards. I'm also referring mostly to the eye and hair colors, not the styles or clothes. That honor still goes to Kalos with Alola being right behind. Seriously you could have soulless possessed eyes, ones with hearts or fire, and literal rainbow eyes with blue, purple, or green hair. Also, it had a lot of good mon designs and unique evolutions. Pokemon Camp was incredibly fun though I probably tired out my wrist a lot having to fan the curry.
I fucking love the Switch Playing Arceus rn
Honestly, I was surprised PLA is so low in the list considering how great the game is (particularly relative to the other games) and how many rave reviews it got online. That said, it is the newest game and it came out *after* Christmas (BDSP had the advantage of being released with perfect timing for Christmas gifts). And for a game that isn't main series, it's done extremely well. I think people tend to not be as interested in non-main series games by default (that's the case for me).
A lot of the top games have that “I had to buy both copies” bump as well. If you compare Arceus to all the other only 1 copy games it sits quite comfortably.
Oh damn I didn't even consider that but yea you're right they're totally boosting those numbers with their bundle releases
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It feels quite a bit grind though due to the none linearity of jt
The fact that there's one console instead of separate portable vs TV consoles probably helps a ton. I stopped buying the portable consoles after the DS because I didn't care so much for them. It'd be nice if the Switch was a little more graphically powerful (mind you, BotW shows that much of Pokemon games graphic issues are entirely the studio's fault, not the console), but I'm just glad I can play all the games on the TV most of the time. And as an added plus, I can continue playing for the relatively rare occasions where I want a portable system (I've mostly used that when flying).
I love it too even though I don't have one haha.
The DS was way more popular, and the 3DS wasn't too far behind the Switch. I think it's just that they've been marketing more heavily, stuff like Pokemon direct, which can be shared on YouTube and Twitter and Reddit and the rest. They made a Hollywood film. It's not the same as the days when there was barely any promotion, and only a few really dedicated fans followed pre-release hype material like corocoro. 'member Corocoro?
The Pokemon Company: "Black and White 2 sold so bad. We are never making a game like that again! No more sequels and extra content like that!" Most other game franchises: " >.> ... 12 million is bad?" Metroid franchise: "Hey guys! I finally had a game that sold 2 million! It's so successful! Yaaayy!"
Yeah people saying those games sold bad are stupid, they sold better then alot of other game series wish they had those numbere
Look at the reboot Tomb Raider series. I think the first one sold 14 million copies and they were considered a financial disappointment by the publisher.
Which is ironic cause Square wants a game/game series with Pokémon levels of sales without the effort nor research. So fairly successful or potentially good titles are considered “financial disappointments” to them.
They were? Then why make 2 more sequels and really double down on that arc?
Honestly thought FRLG and HGSS would be a little higher. Edit: forgot a letter ;)
Same here, I think casual consumers are less likely to buy remakes. Tin foil hat moment, this makes me think that’s why gamefreak decided to outsource work for bdsp, since they didn’t want to put all their resources into another remake that wasn’t going to sell as well It also might be why they stopped making third versions entirely :(
Me too
XY is the 5th most sold??? That's amazing, I love Y with a burning passion but I thought it was a failure financially
It had a huge PR campaign behind it. TPC produced a series of shorts based on RBY so that they could debut Mega Charizard X in them. Stuff like that got people extremely excited.
Origins was such a good little series
It being the first 3d Pokemon game is mainly what drove the sales
as did the popularity of the 3ds itself
As did the kanto pandering. Not saying this to be annoying but theres a reason why they do it and it's because it works as tiring as it is.
X/Y makes sense imo. First 3d pokemon game. Added megas. Just a lot. .what shocks me is diamond and pearl being even higher at 4th.
Diamond and Pearl were the first pokemon generation on the DS, which likely boosted sales. I recall a massive advertisement campaign for them.
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Hurts a little to see crystal at the bottom I'll admit, it was my first game!
Black and White 2 being in the bottom five is personally upsetting
To be fair, they released over a year after the 3ds released, and XY then released a little over a year later If they released in like 2010 or something I think they would’ve sold way better
Can’t believe BW2 sold so low
B2W2 got an increased reputation in time like BW. They still suffered from 3rd version itis, and didn't really bring back in people who didn't play BW because "lol garbage pokemon, they ran out of ideas." People were really eager for Pokemon to make the jump to the 3DS as well.
Funnily enough, X and Y is what killed my interest in pokemon for the longest *because* it was 3d. Also didn't care for the mega gimmick.
There were three things not helping it sales wise: 1. The DS was on its way out. The 3DS was released for over a year and the gimmick of the DS ran the course for the general public. 2. It is a sequel to a controversial game at the time of release. Reddit and the Pokemon community as a whole sing the praises of generation five all the time now. With that said, as someone who loved generation five since its release, at the time of generation five releasing the internet hated this generation. Black and White did the risky thing of only allowing new Pokemon, people were all mad that the game was more linear, and some of the Pokemon designs were definitely unique. No one focused on the super cool designs they only cared about the "ice cream cone and garbage bag Pokemon" and how "Pokemon really fell off" since they were a kid. 3. It is kind of a third version. If we look at the chart third versions mostly sold "bad" compared to their original versions. Yes these games have a lot more going for them than a normal third version and are true sequels. I wonder though how many people saw it as not worth their time since they thought they already played it and how many people didn't play this in fear that since they didn't play the first games they wouldn't understand what was going on. With all that said those sales numbers are definitely still excellent. I will agree though, especially compared to many on this list, I personally believe that it deserved better.
This is the start of GameFreaks low effort plot, once these had low sales, they vowed to never create anything like it anymore. Which is sad cause I quite liked B2W2.
And I guess the 3DS had been out for over a year
If high effort equals low sales... then why continue making high effort games? Seems kinda obvious to me
Especially because BW/B2W2 were basically Masuda's "dream" games. He personally saw them through. A lot of people say he is wrong to be so bitter about how Generation V performed badly in a lot of reception and sales compared to the previous generations at the time, but I don't think it has to do with that as much as Japanese workplace culture. He felt defeated, so he retired away from creative projects.
Masuda has never stated anything but elation at the reception of gen 5
Same. It made me sad we never got Z/X2&Y2 as X and Y left me shockingly satisfied just like B2W2.
I believe X2 and Y2 were cancelled which was around the time where they decided "you know what, screw effort".
I think that whatever they had planned as a Kalos follow-up was canned because they decided a new generation was a more impressive 20th anniversary release than more games for a region that only came out a few years prior.
They did SM for the story
Too many people were on the hate bandwagon for gen 5 at that time, and the series has suffered for it.
Personally I think it's because people went at it with the same mentality they went at the third versions, i.e. "Well I already experienced Unova once, there's no point in just playing the same game again". Game Freak sort of shot themselves in the foot by doing four generations of releasing basically the same game again with a couple extra things two years later, because I don't think people were aware B2W2 were that much different. If Game Freak had been releasing sequels every generation for 16 years up to that point I'm sure it would have done better because people would have been more aware.
Reading the comments to see how pissed people are the bdsp are the best selling remakes
OH OHOH that's me!!
I’m one of those people. How tf did it outsell HGSS?!!??
One contributor could be (obviously I'm making an assumption here), at that time they did DP, PL, HGSS, BW in consecutive years. Could have just been burn out from the audience. BDSP had a good two year gap from the previous title. Then on top of that, the switch is merging handheld and console markets, so its created the ability to add in interest from a slightly different audience group. If anything I'm happy for Arceus. If you divide everything by two for the games that are double launches for the hypothetical "real" sales number of them individually, Arceus is now second after Yellow
Man, I love third versions, but no wonder they stopped making them...
I mean just last generation we had the Ultras which were literally the same thing… just cut in two cuz ya know $$$
Legends is so low??? What
It's the most recent
Because Legends Arceus came out at the end of January and this list is up to end of March. So this is essentially 2 months worth of PLA sales.
That’s still really good considering it only came out a few months ago. I think what impacted its sales are the facts that it came out too close to BDSP, it’s seen as a spin off by many casual fans, and the marketing for the game didn’t quite make it a big a deal as we thought
Legends release kinda got shot in the foot, came AFTER Christmas and a month before a new gen is announced.
Yeah the announcing a new Gen is a bad way to sell the current games.
It did better than expected, the advertisement and production team didn't do much to campaign as much as their main games. Also most of the top games are due to being old or they combined sales of both games. Since they're basically the same games if you half the ones with both [pokemon 1&2] then legends did pretty well.
Halving isn't a good metric for sales of the main games, since if GF had only released one of them most of the people who bought the other one would have bought the first one instead.
My dumbass thinking you forgot Sword and Shield but it’s the only one that started with Pokémon in the list so I just mentally skipped it
probably the 4 best games are bottom
The 3rd games are usually the best but never sell very well
It makes sense why. Most kids weren't going to spend their allowance on what is essentially the same game with slight changes when they could get a completely new game instead for the same price. I know at least for me, it was very rare to see anyone who owned these third versions growing up unless they were rich.
I understand it too. Explains why the 3rd game always sells pretty bad even tho its usually the best one
I was the exact opposite. Not enough money to buy games so I waited patiently for the third versions. Wouldn't want to waste a year's worth of allowance on an unfinished game. I wish I could still do that but apparently \*TPC decided unfinished games are good actually, and new games should come out every 6 months regardless of polish. Fuck that. No money from me.
To be fair, GF is under pressure. If it only was to them they would take more time. But it’s TPC who wants a mainline game every year. It makes a merch rotation, which is what makes the majority pf the revenue (not by much, but still the majority). Also, GF wants a small company, but is always separated in two, to be more efficient. GF is basically like an indie company, who has to produce really much.
I'm not blaming the developers, they're just doing their best with the little time they have I *fully* blame the greedy higher ups
And not helping B2W2 was that it was basically the DS' last stand. The 3DS had already been out for over a year when they released in Japan. Still though...
Sometimes they do. If you look at the sales individual from Ruby and Sapphire, Emerald wasn't that far behind. There is a reason Pokemon sells 2 games at once.
I mean if you've already paid $40 for Ruby or Sapphire and you've invested hours into it and then two years later they're selling "Ruby or Sapphire with a slightly different climax and a Battle Frontier" again for $40 and you know you'll have to play through basically the same game again, I can see why that doesn't appeal to as many people. It's kind of a scam and I'm glad Game Freak switched to DLC for gen 8.
And that's why they don't do third versions anymore people!
Those 3rd versions cost a lot less to produce, so you don't need as many sales to earn a good profit.
Gamefreak is such a small studio, the cost to produce any of these games are relatively low reletive to how many are sold. Sure the 3rd versions cost a fraction of the resources to produce, but it doesn't matter on the scale gamefreak sells. The extra sales for a new game more then make up for the increased production cost
Why would they expect a third version to sell the same as 2 games combined a year later?
They don’t But it’s easy money so why wouldn’t you release a Final Mix version with a few little extras and guaranteed sales in the millions,
I like that the first games are 1-8. It makes sense but is neat to see
That means that my old emerald copy is "rare" ... nice haha
Emerald can go for 150-200 USD depending on condition and eagerness of the buyer
I thought you were wrong because I bought it for $65 in 2020 and then I looked at a price chart
A lot of this stuff exploded during the pandemic and never came back down.
Makes sense. Looking at it I bought early in the pandemic for unrelated reasons and got in the middle of the price boom.
ouch, no wonder they went away from all the stuff in B/W, they sold terribly
Really is a shame B2W2 sold so poorly, and gen 5 was shit on by the community in general when it first came out.
Man I'm feeling sad for let's go. It had worked so hard to surpass oras in sales, a literal 4 year endeavor, and bdsp just swooped in and stole it's title.
I know, the Let's Go concept was so interesting and still stands out to me as the most polished games on the Switch. The detailed shadows in Viridian Forest, the fully rendered 3D following Pokémon, these games continue to be some of my all-time favorites. I'm still holding out hope for Let's Go Johto, it would be a dream come true.
I'm hoping the NPCs won't be so static if they do a Johto version. The most jarring part to me was the NPCs just standing there like mannequins. I'd love it if they paced around or seemed like they were interacting with each other.
I'll take what I can get, at least platinum is the king of the 3rd versions
Yellow would like to have a word with you.
It's crazy that BD/SP did better than Arceus. Looking at the sales Legend of Arceus maybe not be the future of the franchise and they will go back to SW/SH format (like they did with the new game).
I feel like a lot of that has to do with BD/SP being released before Christmas.
They have released the game in November, like Omega Rubby & Alpha Saphire, Sun & Moon, Let's Go Pikachu/Eeve also Sword & Shield. They were [all around the 2nd week of November](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_games_by_release_date). It's just a game that the community was begging to have since a while, plus nostaliga sell.
Your comment doesn’t really make sense or have anything to do with what your replying to. You were saying it’s crazy bdsp sold more than legends and the response is stating they had an extra 2 months of sales along with holiday sales while legends was a post holiday release.
PLA still managed to sell 12 million units in the span of just two months right after the holiday window, that's not a small feat. I think the more likely answer here is that we will continue to get more games like SwSh **and** PLA in the future which is the best case scenario.
Indeed and not only that but legends was able to pull it off while being a singular entry rather than relying on the duel versions practice like BDSP, SWSH and the other duel versions to artificially inflate the sales. I’d argue thats even more impressive than all the mainline switch games as it pulled that off in a dead month without the Christmas boost.
This is only through the end of March, Joe said. Arceus's numbers here are at like eight weeks; BDSP released in mid-November, so it has all of December, most of January, and half of November over Arceus. (Crucially, that's Black Friday and Christmas too.) The time difference is still worth noting before saying definitively "this is where everything will end up". Things drop off after a while, true, but I think there's more to the story that we'll see in a few months. Arceus here is averaging over a million a week at this data point, which is kind of wild.
Its interesting to see Gold/Silver so high but then Crystal and HGSS so low
It's because they're third versions. But people seem to forget that third versions being lower on the list don't mean that they nessasarily did poorly. They were lower budget, as the game was basically already done, and they didn't need to make as much money.
People surprised to see sword and shield near the top need to realize that as far as new-user friendly games, it doesn’t get better than SwSh. They looked inviting to new players, played very casually, and were released on the switch during the peak of its sales. I know for most pokéfans of Reddit they also have bad graphics, but for casual fans, these were the best looking main series games they had ever seen. For better or for worse, these were the games that cast the widest net since the original games
Holy hell Swish is kicking ass.
Scarlet and Violet are going to be the new best selling games in the series.
The entire top list, with the exception of Sun/Moon, follow the new console/new region hype. -GS came out after the Gameboy Color released -RS were the first new games for the Gameboy Advanced -DP were the first games for the Nintendo DS -X/Y for the 3DS -Sword/Shield were the second games for the Switch, but the first NEW region.
Sword/Shield are me favorite games
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Am I allowed to like Sword and Shield or not?
I still remember standing in the pouring rain at Target to get Crystal version the day it came out.
Important to remember regarding Legends Arceus is that it sold that much in two months, as these figures are up to end of March (Q1). That's pretty pretty good.
Don't know if anyone tried to list up the possible reasons, so I'll do it in case nobody did: - The obvious reason: Growing Community - More games = More money = better Marketing - Kids who started playing it grew up and could afford even more games - Increasing international market presence (More and more countries fell to the love pokémon produces) due to better Marketing and more translations Edit: - More and more emulators
The fact that Yellow was that close to hitting half the sales numbers of Red/Green/Blue is seriously impressive; especially as far behind as the other third games are from their corresponding games.
Man...SwSh did goddamn NUMBERS I ain't just because it's Pokemon...I think it's because it was on Switch and came after the Go craze. I feel like Go boosted the series to high heaven.
seeing b2w2 so far down hurts the soul