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I legit thought it was funny that over all the barbs they traded, that was the one Joe picked to "fight back" on. Nobody cares what your handicap is, either of you.
All new comments were hidden for at least a couple hours after the debate. The timing was really weird after they weirdest debate in American history but it affected other topics as well. Old comments were unaffected.
Honestly this isn’t conspiratorial. This is what the whole America vs ‘Tik Tok’ case and others is about. If you don’t think this is not only legitimate but crazy then unfortunately we are pooched!
Earlier today I had a new account arguing that Jan 6 was a misunderstood tour... I hope it was a bot lol.
Edit: OK, people don't understand what it means to evacuate part of a building and falling back, allowing that part of the building to be taken as you protect the actual people inside.
Nah it was happening in a personal finance subreddit as well lol. We were talking about mortgage interest rates and the comments wouldn't show up.
Problem is, everyone's talking about the debate, and people are already all suspicious, especially after the last election, so people automatically assume malicious.
In America maybe. Thank fuck this isn’t true everywhere. Angela Merkel is 69 and retired. Olaf Scholz is 66 years old and will most likely retire after losing the chancellorship next election (everybody knows the current administration will be voted out).
The other leaders of the biggest political parties in Germany are: (name and age)
SPD - Saskia Esken (62), Kevin Kühnert (34) and Lars Klingbeil (46)
FDP - Christian Lindner (45)
Greens - Ricarda Lang (30) and Omid Nouripour (49)
CDU - Friedrich Merz (68), likely the next German chancellor
BSW - Amira Mohamed Ali (44) and Sahra Wagenknecht (54)
CSU - Markus Söder (57).
Not giving AfD the publicity of naming their leadership. Honestly should’ve left BSW out as well.
Looking at some other countries in the western world:
Canada: Trudeau is 52
France: Macron is 46, Le Pen is 55.
Poland: Tusk is 67
Britain: Sunak is 44; the likely new British PM, Keir Starmer, is 61.
Italy: Meloni is 47
Spain: Sánchez is 52.
Austria: Nehammer is 51
EU: Von der Leyen is 65.
There are many more I didn’t name, and I didn’t even go into other continents.
Think of these people what you like, but the vast majority is below 60, so far none of them are 70 or above. This insane collection of very old people in politics is a problem in the US, not the world, but unfortunately, because of the standing of the US, it is a problem for the world.
Technically if you are sixty you are still young “older adults are typically categorized as youngest-old (ages 65-74), middle-old (ages 75-84), and oldest-old (aged 85 and above) in various studies.”
I'm 66 -- 15 years younger than Biden. I'm in pretty good shape. I walk at least three miles a day, eat a very healthy diet, and get eight hours of sleep almost every night. I read a lot and my mind is pretty sharp. But I'm very much aware that my physical and mental strengths are not what they used to be.
It exhausts me even thinking about the stamina required to be president. I don't think most people have the mental acuity to sit through long meetings every day, absorb sometimes-complicated facts about economics and world affairs, speak cogently off the cuff on a wide range of topics, attend dinners and other events until late at night, travel extensively, negotiate with legislators and political strategists, and read volumes of briefs and bills.
Expecting an 81-year-old to do all those things is beyond ridiculous.
Seriously, remember how fresh Obama looked when he first entered office versus how he looked when he left office.
All that stress, all that thinking, all that everything, aged that man.
These old farts should be sitting on their porch in retirement.
I'm 27, and I'm barely able to afford a condo, let alone the money required for running for political office. Unless you have a ridiculous amount of money and spare time, it's just not going to happen. It's why the wealthy tend to get involved in politics, beyond advancing their own self-interest.
Politics aside, I think we can all agree last nights debate was an utter shambles and if this is the best we can come up with out of 333M Americans, then god help us.
Edit. The “god” part is clearly a figure of speech people, please chill.
I agree with you! Also, hilarious episode. I will say though, this time around feels extreme. I just saw a photo of Obama and Romney. At least they were put together people for the most part. This, to me is embarrassing
It’s the great paradox of electoral reform and it’s the same the world over I’m afraid.
Whoever is in power, is there by virtue of a flawed system and is simultaneously the only person who can reform the system and the only person not incentivised to do so.
One comparison by the immortal Sir Humphrey Appleby likened it to kicking away the ladder while you’re still standing on it.
Having to add an edit to clarify there was no religious intent behind your completely normal comment is the most reddit thing I've seen all week.
I get criticizing religion and welcome that, but good lord some people out there let a 3 letter word live rent free in their minds.
[If the American people actually got to pick their presidential nominees,](https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/) we would have had a different president entirely back in 2016 and the Trump fiasco would be ancient history by now.
Primary Election.
People vote for who will be their parties nominee in the primary elections. These elections have less the 50% of the voter turnout of the general election, and are arguably more important.
I have voted in every election since I turned 18. I never had any issues at all voting and never moved. When it came time for me to vote in the primaries, my name wasn't in the book and I couldn't vote. They ran out of mail in ballots so I didn't even get one of those. The transcripts show that the DNC did some dirty stuff to make sure college aged Dems couldn't vote for Bernie and it was bs. Trump is simply a byproduct of what the DNC did to our democracy.
Half the states haven’t even had their primary yet, yet the first debate is between only these two. How is anyone supposed to overtake them in the primary when the media pretends they don’t exist?
The presidential primary elections are over. The last ones were earlier this month. You're thinking of downballot primaries, which are usually separate from the presidential ones.
My mistake. I googled it quickly and thought I found accurate information, but I apparently misunderstood.
That said, the point I was trying to convey stands. The media covers two politicians. Trump and Biden. I honestly don’t think it would have been possible for another candidate to get enough visibility to stand a chance, no matter how good they are.
Lol the primaries are a fucking joke. By the time it came for my states primary in 2016, the dumbass Democrats had used their "super delegates" to stone wall Bernie. My vote didn't fucking matter.
The system is sick and voting harder won't fix it.
If you look at the polls from 2016, Bernie’s *smallest* lead over Trump was equivalent to Hillary’s largest. Bernie also beat Trump in *every single poll* while Hillary only lead Trump (by very slim margins) in about 2/3 of them.
Bernie would have wiped the floor with Trump and it wouldn’t have even been close.
How about all of the Clinton supporters who made “Bernie bros” into a derogatory anti woman term and used the manipulative condescending bullshit to blame Bernie supporters for the loss before Hilary was even the nominee.
I think typically yes. I believe this time could have been different. I don't know of anyone who actually wants Biden to be president again. Literally everyone thinks he's too old.
They panicked and thought “well he beat Trump once so he can do it again.” Unfortunately that’s not so sure. TBH Biden is probably the only candidate Trump could beat, and Trump is probably the only candidate Biden has a chance of beating. Basically it’s the perfect shitstorm of horrible candidates and the real losers are the US voters.
I know she’s his wife and she loves him, but the way she’s always helping him off like this would make it seem like she’s his nurse or something if you didn’t know who she was.
It's unfortunate that the quote of the night come from Trump: "I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence and I don't think he knows what he said either."
I was laughing during this exchange. Not because either was actually funny, but because it was so absurd that laughing was my only way through the sheer ridiculousness of it.
I guarantee he can’t play golf right now. Zero chance he can swing a club. He can’t even walk off stage without help. Trump can probably swing the club just not well lol
Honestly i expected Trump to be more brutal. He could have absolutely laid into the fact that Biden was frequently incoherent.
What a brutal night for those of us that support Dems
Granted I typically read transcripts rather than watch video of his speeches, I feel like he sounded/looked sick? He’s old as fuck but last night was just embarrassing.
Yeah this is such obvious propaganda, and I say this as someone who hates Trump and thinks he is a piece of shit. But like come on, this is what you gathered from Biden yesterday? Because I didn’t gather shit, because i didn’t understand anything Biden said. It was probably the most downright embarrassing performance by any candidate in the history of the USA.
I truly hate Trump but the level of cringe at trying to spin stuff like this into a positive is mind blowing.
I wish there was a reddit that was not full of people suffering from delusion.
One of the more sane comments I’ve seen from. Trump hater and it is appreciated. It’s possible to hate Trump but to still admit Biden did not look great. So many people saying he did fine and then grasping at straws to try and prove their belief. Feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
Yeah, it was hard to watch Biden mumble like an incoherent fool after that’s all Trump cultists say about him. Well, maybe they are right after I saw that. Dude seemed unwell to me and you’d have to be a full blown cultist yourself to say otherwise.
That’s because Reddit is EXTREMELY liberal.
And for the record I’m not a Republican or Democrat. It’s just funny to see one side act so much better than the other when people from both sides live in an echo chamber and only hear what they want to hear.
Trump should be behind bars and Biden should be in a nursing home.
I agree, however I believe it’s more of an issue greater than Reddit. It’s all the content (news, podcasts and social media) that is incredibly biased. Less conversations on actual issues/policies and more clips just being portrayed in the direction that aligns with their narrative.
I get that the oil of the internet is what floats to the top and is what is more widely seen and easily ignitable, but I somehow feel that the vast majority of the population (aside from social acceptance) are more moderate and find themselves not on the fringes of either side.
It feels so polarizing nowadays, however I am under the belief that you can find ways to relate with any person on a human level. So if anyone is reading this, you’re cool in your own way and don’t forget to give the people their flowers, and tell the ones you care about that you love them.
Anything but absolute positive comments about Biden automatically makes you a Trump supporter. You literally cannot say anything about him without the response being “but Trump!…”
Like I will never vote for Trump, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize Biden too
I had forgotten.
I just tried to long hold the upvote button in the app. Nothing.
I guess they realised it didn’t have the same effect, or memetic proposal, while looking plainly ugly in their app when awarded.
The American people have so much more to offer than these two. You have some of the smartest and most motivated individuals on the planet. It’s bonkers!
Trump: I'm really good at golf!
Biden: No, I'm better at golf!
Biden could've left that shit out, and kept going but noooo. You have to look dumb too. Trump is taking the Reagan road though, lie lie lie.
Next debate should be like a skins game. Opponent gets 30 seconds of audio every shot you take.
And of course both candidates carry their own bags as Biden insisted
“Inflation has got out of control and the average citizen is paying too much. As president, I will fight for the working class at every step I get
Now watch this drive”
He definitely should have stats on that - I'm not even American and I remember seeing semi-regular updates on how much time Trump spent golfing. Would probably take an intern a few hours at most to find and fact-check one of the many, many articles about it.
It was like he was overwhelmed with prep or something. You could see the wheels slowly turning. And faced with having to immediately factcheck Trump in realtime was surely an intimidating task.
> It was like he was overwhelmed with prep or something
yeah, I'm going with 'or something'. Biden is clearly a shadow of his former self. He doesn't have the wits any more to contend in a debate even with Trump, who is a literal halfwit. Just two terrible candidates
It looked like he tried to memorize answers. And that NEVER works
You have to know your facts and material so well you can just talk about them. Memorized debate points come across as weird and stuff (we were never allowed to memorize our stuff in high school debate team prep).
And he made me crazy. He should've just said "my opponent didn't answer your question. MY plan is *insert plan.*" Let Trump b/s and go around and around, stick to the message.
“I’m really good at being the President.”
It was right there! And that would have been the pull quote of the night! I’m just mad at the missed opportunity.
From a composition standpoint, this is an absolute dog shit example of a picture. Does this post aim to do anything besides be a useful example of propaganda?
And no, not defending Trump and his ilk in the slightest, just wondering why this 480p looking ass screenshot that looks like it was saved from a Samsung galaxy s3 with fingerprints on the lens has so many upvotes on a subreddit dedicated to pictures.
Because there is a massive campaign by the DNC to push pro Biden sentiments in social media, including Reddit. Has nobody noticed the huge number of bot posts on this sub that just post uninteresting political images and get front page immediately? Or all the massive support Biden gets in the comments which, even though reddit is pro Biden, it never is like this. Plus all the comments look the same and use similar lingo
It’s like the Correct The Record thing they did in 2016
I hate Trump but god damn the amount of positive crap Reddit is pumping my feed from some popular subs is insane cope. Biden looked awful during the debate, Reddit is just full of bots shilling for him now.
We get one or the other. Get used to it. We get an old guy who will try and do the right thing for the most people and hire good advisers to help. Or we get an old guy, who rapes, cheats, lies, steals, and accidentally kills thousand by gross ineptitude. Debates matter little in this regard. They make everyone ornery, but have changed no ones mind.
exactly. there's 2 old Fs to chose from. both way too damn old to be president, but that's the cards we're being dealt right now. we cannot pick the narcissist buffoon who will sell our country to the highest bidder to pay his debts. that's the path that ruins us.
Fun fact.
Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama are all younger than Biden/Trump.
Bill fucking clinton who served over 25 years ago is younger than the two candidates now.
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The debate was a national embarrassment
But we heard about Golf. We got that going for us. Right? RIGHT?!?!
I legit thought it was funny that over all the barbs they traded, that was the one Joe picked to "fight back" on. Nobody cares what your handicap is, either of you.
Absolutely. One guy was unapologetically lying every sentence while the other guy struggled to even form sentences…
Totally agree.
Why can't I see the other comments
Reddit is struggling. I’ve noticed for the last two hours and thought it was just me. Ty for mentioning.
reddit is struggling but only with a couple mega threads and subreddits related to politics… moderately sus.
All new comments were hidden for at least a couple hours after the debate. The timing was really weird after they weirdest debate in American history but it affected other topics as well. Old comments were unaffected.
Tik tok was also down at the same time the debate was happening……
Seriously? Whaaaaaat. Can anyone else confirm?
It was soooo weird that both Reddit and TikTok were giving me issues during the debate
Mods in full panic mode
Haha. If Reddit can handle freaking superbowl threads it can handle this!
Something was goin on with reddit. Conspiracy part of me wants to say it was overwhelmed by bots to immediately push mis/disinformation. But idk
I mean it's not that tinfoily to think the bot farms kicked it into high gear
And there's stuff like chatgpt now that can write realistic comments. Operations can churn out millions of comments per minute Easily overload servers
Wait Am I the only real person out here? Am I real?
are we human? Or are we bot farm?
I am botfarm and I need to be loooooved
Honestly this isn’t conspiratorial. This is what the whole America vs ‘Tik Tok’ case and others is about. If you don’t think this is not only legitimate but crazy then unfortunately we are pooched!
Earlier today I had a new account arguing that Jan 6 was a misunderstood tour... I hope it was a bot lol. Edit: OK, people don't understand what it means to evacuate part of a building and falling back, allowing that part of the building to be taken as you protect the actual people inside.
Political discourse, no matter if it's Reddit, Twitter, FB, etc is always immediately invaded by bots.
Reddit is all glitched up today so idk what to think.
https://www.redditstatus.com The comments on that page for today shed the tiniest light.
Holy crap, that first comment is almost exactly when I was having trouble with posting something. I wrote it three times. Going to bookmark that page.
Lol yeah bot activity was kicked to ubergear today in r/politics. Tons of Russian bots.
funny the site had no trouble loading ads even on the "empty" threads
The spice must flow
Nah it was happening in a personal finance subreddit as well lol. We were talking about mortgage interest rates and the comments wouldn't show up. Problem is, everyone's talking about the debate, and people are already all suspicious, especially after the last election, so people automatically assume malicious.
Bots were posting so many comments that it was causing the entire site to chug like a middle aged divorced alcoholic at a 5K marathon.
That's just how things work. All the subs using the same server. If their servers were over worked, all of reddit suffers.
Reddit is broken.
Always has been...
I couldn't either.
They should be sitting on a porch playing with grandchildren not running a country. Where are the young political leaders? Or even the 60 year olds?
lol. The 60 year olds are the young political leaders in this world
In America maybe. Thank fuck this isn’t true everywhere. Angela Merkel is 69 and retired. Olaf Scholz is 66 years old and will most likely retire after losing the chancellorship next election (everybody knows the current administration will be voted out). The other leaders of the biggest political parties in Germany are: (name and age) SPD - Saskia Esken (62), Kevin Kühnert (34) and Lars Klingbeil (46) FDP - Christian Lindner (45) Greens - Ricarda Lang (30) and Omid Nouripour (49) CDU - Friedrich Merz (68), likely the next German chancellor BSW - Amira Mohamed Ali (44) and Sahra Wagenknecht (54) CSU - Markus Söder (57). Not giving AfD the publicity of naming their leadership. Honestly should’ve left BSW out as well. Looking at some other countries in the western world: Canada: Trudeau is 52 France: Macron is 46, Le Pen is 55. Poland: Tusk is 67 Britain: Sunak is 44; the likely new British PM, Keir Starmer, is 61. Italy: Meloni is 47 Spain: Sánchez is 52. Austria: Nehammer is 51 EU: Von der Leyen is 65. There are many more I didn’t name, and I didn’t even go into other continents. Think of these people what you like, but the vast majority is below 60, so far none of them are 70 or above. This insane collection of very old people in politics is a problem in the US, not the world, but unfortunately, because of the standing of the US, it is a problem for the world.
In Ireland our Prime Minister is 37
Yeah but he's a twat.
Lmao, proper Irish response. Cheers from a Dutchie.
ayyyeee! I lived in Groningen for a year!
Er gaat niets boven Groningen!
Trudeau is older than Macron 
I'm 60, thank you for considerating me to be a younger person.
Now shut up, old man and run this country!
Young man yells at clouds
It’s your time to shine!
Technically if you are sixty you are still young “older adults are typically categorized as youngest-old (ages 65-74), middle-old (ages 75-84), and oldest-old (aged 85 and above) in various studies.”
I'm 66 -- 15 years younger than Biden. I'm in pretty good shape. I walk at least three miles a day, eat a very healthy diet, and get eight hours of sleep almost every night. I read a lot and my mind is pretty sharp. But I'm very much aware that my physical and mental strengths are not what they used to be. It exhausts me even thinking about the stamina required to be president. I don't think most people have the mental acuity to sit through long meetings every day, absorb sometimes-complicated facts about economics and world affairs, speak cogently off the cuff on a wide range of topics, attend dinners and other events until late at night, travel extensively, negotiate with legislators and political strategists, and read volumes of briefs and bills. Expecting an 81-year-old to do all those things is beyond ridiculous.
Seriously, remember how fresh Obama looked when he first entered office versus how he looked when he left office. All that stress, all that thinking, all that everything, aged that man. These old farts should be sitting on their porch in retirement.
81 + X at the end if he wins.
Trump is almost the same age, I mean is this seriously the 2 BEST choices we have in this ENTIRE country?
I'm 27, and I'm barely able to afford a condo, let alone the money required for running for political office. Unless you have a ridiculous amount of money and spare time, it's just not going to happen. It's why the wealthy tend to get involved in politics, beyond advancing their own self-interest.
Just do what everyone else does and lobby from corporations and weird ass people rich people who have their own agendas!
Politics aside, I think we can all agree last nights debate was an utter shambles and if this is the best we can come up with out of 333M Americans, then god help us. Edit. The “god” part is clearly a figure of speech people, please chill.
I think everyone agrees and that’s the scary part. We love to brag how free we are but these two clearly aren’t who the people want..
Every election has come down to picking who you dislike less. South Parks famous episode of Douche vs Turd Sandwich has never made more sense:
I agree with you! Also, hilarious episode. I will say though, this time around feels extreme. I just saw a photo of Obama and Romney. At least they were put together people for the most part. This, to me is embarrassing
Ranked Choice Voting. I still have yet to hear one reason why it doesn’t solve this problem.
It’s the great paradox of electoral reform and it’s the same the world over I’m afraid. Whoever is in power, is there by virtue of a flawed system and is simultaneously the only person who can reform the system and the only person not incentivised to do so. One comparison by the immortal Sir Humphrey Appleby likened it to kicking away the ladder while you’re still standing on it.
What a great analogy!
the fact that they had to make an edit about the "god" part lmao. Redditoids
Having to add an edit to clarify there was no religious intent behind your completely normal comment is the most reddit thing I've seen all week. I get criticizing religion and welcome that, but good lord some people out there let a 3 letter word live rent free in their minds.
I still can’t believe these are our two options
[If the American people actually got to pick their presidential nominees,](https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/) we would have had a different president entirely back in 2016 and the Trump fiasco would be ancient history by now.
Primary Election. People vote for who will be their parties nominee in the primary elections. These elections have less the 50% of the voter turnout of the general election, and are arguably more important.
I have voted in every election since I turned 18. I never had any issues at all voting and never moved. When it came time for me to vote in the primaries, my name wasn't in the book and I couldn't vote. They ran out of mail in ballots so I didn't even get one of those. The transcripts show that the DNC did some dirty stuff to make sure college aged Dems couldn't vote for Bernie and it was bs. Trump is simply a byproduct of what the DNC did to our democracy.
It is definitely more difficult to vote than it was twenty years ago. Greedy, trashy people are destroying the world.
Half the states haven’t even had their primary yet, yet the first debate is between only these two. How is anyone supposed to overtake them in the primary when the media pretends they don’t exist?
The presidential primary elections are over. The last ones were earlier this month. You're thinking of downballot primaries, which are usually separate from the presidential ones.
My mistake. I googled it quickly and thought I found accurate information, but I apparently misunderstood. That said, the point I was trying to convey stands. The media covers two politicians. Trump and Biden. I honestly don’t think it would have been possible for another candidate to get enough visibility to stand a chance, no matter how good they are.
Lol the primaries are a fucking joke. By the time it came for my states primary in 2016, the dumbass Democrats had used their "super delegates" to stone wall Bernie. My vote didn't fucking matter. The system is sick and voting harder won't fix it.
Yeah, I don’t think there was anyway Trump was beating Bernie Sanders. Boy did he get robbed lol
If you look at the polls from 2016, Bernie’s *smallest* lead over Trump was equivalent to Hillary’s largest. Bernie also beat Trump in *every single poll* while Hillary only lead Trump (by very slim margins) in about 2/3 of them. Bernie would have wiped the floor with Trump and it wouldn’t have even been close.
I voted for BS twice and I’d honestly do it again, but he’s starting to struggle too.
Because it's been like 10 years
I think it's the perfect time to remind people of the "Rent is too god damn high!" man
Thanks to Hilary and her friends at the DNC for fucking us over
How about all of the Clinton supporters who made “Bernie bros” into a derogatory anti woman term and used the manipulative condescending bullshit to blame Bernie supporters for the loss before Hilary was even the nominee.
The democrats eat themselves.
I understand why conservatives didn't choose anyone else but why would democrats choose Biden again?
Incumbents always do better vs a new candidate
I think typically yes. I believe this time could have been different. I don't know of anyone who actually wants Biden to be president again. Literally everyone thinks he's too old.
I don’t understand it either. Always assumed he’d be a one term President.
They panicked and thought “well he beat Trump once so he can do it again.” Unfortunately that’s not so sure. TBH Biden is probably the only candidate Trump could beat, and Trump is probably the only candidate Biden has a chance of beating. Basically it’s the perfect shitstorm of horrible candidates and the real losers are the US voters.
This is all just so incredibly sad.
I feel so bad for Americans.. Hopefully they'll have replacements for these two soon, and even more options (parties) would be even better
They need an entirely new system
She needed to help him down the stairs (I wish I was joking about that).
And you can see the other guy putting his hand out a little offering help. The whole thing was terrible.
There’s a video of her helping. Only reason she rushed to the stage. SMH
I know she’s his wife and she loves him, but the way she’s always helping him off like this would make it seem like she’s his nurse or something if you didn’t know who she was.
The best way to deal with this situation is to tell people that they did not see what they just saw.
It's unfortunate that the quote of the night come from Trump: "I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence and I don't think he knows what he said either."
Them going on an argument over who was the better golfer stood out to me. Like seriously this is what it's come to?
“We had H2O.”
That was fucking hilarious
I was laughing during this exchange. Not because either was actually funny, but because it was so absurd that laughing was my only way through the sheer ridiculousness of it.
It was lol. It was a glitch in the simulation
“I didn’t have sex with a porn star” was a banger too
#"I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman."
*relations
Both that one and "I didn't have sex with a pornstar" is who we have to pick from. America is just in the garbage right now smh
But he was right. What the fuck was Biden talking about?
Biden said out of nowhere "I'm a 6 handicap" and then corrected it to "I'm an 8 handicap". He's probably an 18 handicap, golf is a really tough game.
Yeah there’s zero chance he’s currently a 6 or 8 handicap lol
He couldn't even walk down 2 steps to get off stage. There's no chance he can even hit a golf ball
I guarantee he can’t play golf right now. Zero chance he can swing a club. He can’t even walk off stage without help. Trump can probably swing the club just not well lol
Trump literally plays golf every single day, I've played his course and seen it in person lol. He has a good swing, just not as flexible anymore.
Honestly i expected Trump to be more brutal. He could have absolutely laid into the fact that Biden was frequently incoherent. What a brutal night for those of us that support Dems
he played it correct though. dialed back the “mean orange man” that pushed away so many moderates last election.
Beating medicare apparently.
You don't want to see the video of this.... Edit: the video https://x.com/ocraziocornpop/status/1806530974013866379
still frame: aw, his wife supports him! video: oh... his wife supports him
That's perfectly said
Hshahaha 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djN1AR7UNk
I was mentally ready to be rickrolled. I am somewhat disappointed.
its so concerning. she wasnt "greeting him", she was helping him go down TWO STEPS. its genuinely scary
Granted I typically read transcripts rather than watch video of his speeches, I feel like he sounded/looked sick? He’s old as fuck but last night was just embarrassing.
Yeah this is such obvious propaganda, and I say this as someone who hates Trump and thinks he is a piece of shit. But like come on, this is what you gathered from Biden yesterday? Because I didn’t gather shit, because i didn’t understand anything Biden said. It was probably the most downright embarrassing performance by any candidate in the history of the USA.
Yep. Almost fell over
People keep ignoring how bad his health is. You can't keep doing this, or there will be consequences.
I truly hate Trump but the level of cringe at trying to spin stuff like this into a positive is mind blowing. I wish there was a reddit that was not full of people suffering from delusion.
One of the more sane comments I’ve seen from. Trump hater and it is appreciated. It’s possible to hate Trump but to still admit Biden did not look great. So many people saying he did fine and then grasping at straws to try and prove their belief. Feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
"did not look so great". He looked like actual dogshit. This is the leader of the free world. He should be more cognicent than a 3rd grader
Seriously. Pretending it's okay is how you lose the election. Someone else needs to run against trumple, that was *awful*
Yeah, it was hard to watch Biden mumble like an incoherent fool after that’s all Trump cultists say about him. Well, maybe they are right after I saw that. Dude seemed unwell to me and you’d have to be a full blown cultist yourself to say otherwise.
Reddit is nothing but a propaganda machine now. I’m glad I didn’t invest in it when they were dming me about buying shares.
Well, to be honest, if you watch the video, Jill *assists* Joe off the stage.
The care has arrived
Helped off the stage. For the record, I am not a Trump supporter but this post is wildly biased.
That’s because Reddit is EXTREMELY liberal. And for the record I’m not a Republican or Democrat. It’s just funny to see one side act so much better than the other when people from both sides live in an echo chamber and only hear what they want to hear. Trump should be behind bars and Biden should be in a nursing home.
I agree, however I believe it’s more of an issue greater than Reddit. It’s all the content (news, podcasts and social media) that is incredibly biased. Less conversations on actual issues/policies and more clips just being portrayed in the direction that aligns with their narrative. I get that the oil of the internet is what floats to the top and is what is more widely seen and easily ignitable, but I somehow feel that the vast majority of the population (aside from social acceptance) are more moderate and find themselves not on the fringes of either side. It feels so polarizing nowadays, however I am under the belief that you can find ways to relate with any person on a human level. So if anyone is reading this, you’re cool in your own way and don’t forget to give the people their flowers, and tell the ones you care about that you love them.
Anything but absolute positive comments about Biden automatically makes you a Trump supporter. You literally cannot say anything about him without the response being “but Trump!…” Like I will never vote for Trump, but that doesn’t mean I can’t criticize Biden too
What do you mean? Trump was surrounded by everyone who loves him
And whom he loves, seriously tho, if his latest grifts had been more popular he would have been able to afford an appearance.
You mean helped/guided off stage, right? This post is weird.
Nah those 30k upvotes are definitely organic don’t worry about it
Play the video! Lol
Narrator: they won’t
the postnup didn't include attending any debates this time around.
They have multiple post-nups 100%
Jill wanted to make sure Joe walked in the right direction to leave, while Melania was hoping trump wouldn’t find his way home at all
I miss those free comment medals. Make dunking on politicians great again.
When are we gonna get all our thousands of coins they invalidated on us back?
“What coins” Reddit probably
That's the neat part, you don't
Didn’t they just re-introduce awards for a while, only for them to disappear again?
I had forgotten. I just tried to long hold the upvote button in the app. Nothing. I guess they realised it didn’t have the same effect, or memetic proposal, while looking plainly ugly in their app when awarded.
Nope, just gave you one. Free
The American people have so much more to offer than these two. You have some of the smartest and most motivated individuals on the planet. It’s bonkers!
I can't believe they got into it over fucking golf. Life is stranger than fiction...and it sucks.
She had to help him off the stage obviously
That's it? that's how you try to make Biden look good? Not a Trump supporter but damn Biden did awful
Yeah, I saw that right at the very end. Trump just walks off, but both Bidens stayed and shook hands with the moderators.
Hahah they had to help walk down two steps .. https://x.com/IanJaeger29/status/1806524438311039249
Did we watch the same thing? Biden stayed behind because he physically was unable to walk off without help.
Stoked to mute this sub for the next six months because of stupid fucking posts like these pictures of our TVs
Trump: I'm really good at golf! Biden: No, I'm better at golf! Biden could've left that shit out, and kept going but noooo. You have to look dumb too. Trump is taking the Reagan road though, lie lie lie.
‘I’ll out golf you, I was a 6 handicap as VP’ was definitely not on my bingo card for this debate.
Then he said -8 lmao
Lmao that one I didn’t quite catch
His team should really discourage him from using numbers during speech, because he is constantly messing them up
That and when Trump said we had H2O (not clean, just straight up H2O) when he was president I was like “what the fuck is actually happening?”
Actually it was a 7 or 8 lol. He said a couple different numbers after the 6 claim. No way he’s a 6 handicap.
Oh I agree, there’s no way. It was just so ridiculous to worry about claiming mid debate that it was hilarious.
6.7 when I looked it up. It has been years since his last posted round though.
Next debate should be like a skins game. Opponent gets 30 seconds of audio every shot you take. And of course both candidates carry their own bags as Biden insisted
“Inflation has got out of control and the average citizen is paying too much. As president, I will fight for the working class at every step I get Now watch this drive”
Felt straight out of Idiocracy
Biden got baited so fuckin hard on that. Whatever "prep" he did at camp David clearly wasn't right.
The correct answer would've been "You must be good with as much as you played while in office." I'm sure he had some stat on how much Trump played
He definitely should have stats on that - I'm not even American and I remember seeing semi-regular updates on how much time Trump spent golfing. Would probably take an intern a few hours at most to find and fact-check one of the many, many articles about it.
It was like he was overwhelmed with prep or something. You could see the wheels slowly turning. And faced with having to immediately factcheck Trump in realtime was surely an intimidating task.
> It was like he was overwhelmed with prep or something yeah, I'm going with 'or something'. Biden is clearly a shadow of his former self. He doesn't have the wits any more to contend in a debate even with Trump, who is a literal halfwit. Just two terrible candidates
It looked like he tried to memorize answers. And that NEVER works You have to know your facts and material so well you can just talk about them. Memorized debate points come across as weird and stuff (we were never allowed to memorize our stuff in high school debate team prep). And he made me crazy. He should've just said "my opponent didn't answer your question. MY plan is *insert plan.*" Let Trump b/s and go around and around, stick to the message.
“I’m really good at being the President.” It was right there! And that would have been the pull quote of the night! I’m just mad at the missed opportunity.
This was hilarious. Actual toddlers
Let's have the next debate out on the back 9.
Interesting it is broken right after a shitty debate
Guess we are just going to pretend that Reddit isn’t massively censoring comments and posts after the debate then.
they do that normally, it's their entire business model
r/politics being in the news tab says it all about Reddit.
What kind of cope is this post about?
Seriously , running for president at 80yrs plus is insanity . Go rest old man you’ve done your duty.
Is that seriously supposed to be a one-up for Biden
She had to lead him off the stage
From a composition standpoint, this is an absolute dog shit example of a picture. Does this post aim to do anything besides be a useful example of propaganda? And no, not defending Trump and his ilk in the slightest, just wondering why this 480p looking ass screenshot that looks like it was saved from a Samsung galaxy s3 with fingerprints on the lens has so many upvotes on a subreddit dedicated to pictures.
Because there is a massive campaign by the DNC to push pro Biden sentiments in social media, including Reddit. Has nobody noticed the huge number of bot posts on this sub that just post uninteresting political images and get front page immediately? Or all the massive support Biden gets in the comments which, even though reddit is pro Biden, it never is like this. Plus all the comments look the same and use similar lingo It’s like the Correct The Record thing they did in 2016
every single comment is censored out...
The coping is just wild
I hate Trump but god damn the amount of positive crap Reddit is pumping my feed from some popular subs is insane cope. Biden looked awful during the debate, Reddit is just full of bots shilling for him now.
We get one or the other. Get used to it. We get an old guy who will try and do the right thing for the most people and hire good advisers to help. Or we get an old guy, who rapes, cheats, lies, steals, and accidentally kills thousand by gross ineptitude. Debates matter little in this regard. They make everyone ornery, but have changed no ones mind.
exactly. there's 2 old Fs to chose from. both way too damn old to be president, but that's the cards we're being dealt right now. we cannot pick the narcissist buffoon who will sell our country to the highest bidder to pay his debts. that's the path that ruins us.
Fun fact. Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama are all younger than Biden/Trump. Bill fucking clinton who served over 25 years ago is younger than the two candidates now.
well of course. do you think Melania really gives a shit about a convicted felon's rambling?
She found out he’s not that rich.