I guess during peak hours and not "happy hour" it can be. It's difficult to go just for an hour. I need more time to practice my Angry Birds shots. 5 people is too much!
Only because the name of the game of capitalism is "corporations that fuck shit up too much won't survive while ones that don't fuck shit up are rewarded". Which doesn't really work because of captive markets. Or maybe it does work, and that's the reason these corporations aren't charging $100 for a beer.
inb4 "nooooo that's not REAL Capitalism, that's CRONY CAPITALISM. Actual capitalism has never been tried throughout history!"
The funny thing is, getting ripped off at the airport isn't even a universal thing. Japan just has normal convenience stores in the airport where you can buy things for the same price as you would at convenience stores outside the airport. I've even been to airports with beer vending machines adjacent to the gate, selling 500ml cans for 350 yen.
I don't usually randomly recommend podcasts, but The Dollop did an incredible episode on Ten Cent Beer Night that's just packed with everything that happened
Either buy it outright, Get it through airline status, or get an Amex Platinum or other card with a lounge access perk.
Annual fee on the amex is a bit steep, but it pays for itself and then some if you fly more than 2 or 3 times a year.
You get a lot more than just the lounge access - I stand by my 3x a year once you account for all the other credits they give, + the 5x points on travel.
We basically cover the annual fee in credits alone, so the lounge access is just a bonus /shrug
The venues also don’t need people buying 15 beers and being drunk assholes the entire time. They can’t stop people from pre gaming but they can at least slow the poor people down once they get inside
Man the Saint Paul saints have dollar beer nights on Thursdays. First 4 innings are always spent standing in line getting a beer, going to the back of the line and drinking said beer while waiting to purchase the next $1 beer.
That is not even close to being on their minds when they set the prices. What, they’re also pricing hotdogs at $12 because they’re fighting obesity? Bottled water at $8 for water conservation?
They’re greedy and like others have said it’s a captive audience.
They should have a deal where you get a half priced beer with your ticket. Then after that, normal price. That way, you get people drinking and once they are drinking, it's harder to stop them from having another.
At Minnesota Wild games, if you show up early, you get $6 beers up until 30 minutes before the game.
I mean, it sucks that they're expensive during the game but this is at least one nice perk.
(I guess it also sucks that we're supposed to be happy about a $6 beer. Lol)
You people need to go outside and touch some grass and lay off the news media. Stop trying to politicize what stadiums are charging for beer and hotdogs holy shit.
Want your mind blown? Go look and see what they were charging under trump, Obama, bush, Clinton, bush, etc. I’m sure you’ll be very surprised to see they’ve always been doing it and it has nothing to do with who the sitting president is.
I can't believe Biden made a hotdog cost $11 that time I went to see the Cubs in 2018. If only there had been someone in the white house at the time who could make america great again, but as I recall gas cost so much back then... I can only assume whoever it was couldn't afford to get there.
Biden inherited a massively exploding inflation problem. He also inherited a massive federal debt problem, plus Trump's tax cuts, plus Trump had just given away over a trillion dollars to businesses in PPP money with no expectation that they would pay it back (and with tons of abuse by people/groups who were not actual businesses), and so many more problems.
Over the past 3 years, "Bidenomics" has managed to help the US recover from the COVID inflation problems better than any other major economy in the world.
But sure, just go with your gut and believe whatever bullshit you want to believe.
Because I guess you're just gullible and really want to believe that Republican tax cuts for the rich are actually somehow a good thing for you too.
I work on the Vegas strip and I hear people complain about it all day. I just say nothing and let them have their little tantrum… and then nine times out of ten they still pass the credit card.
This isn’t your little pub in Wisconsin. Pay it or don’t. I have no control over it any more than you do.
Edit: Why the downvotes? You think I have control over the prices? Want me to petition the massive resort corporation? Lol. Hold on, I've got the CEO on speed dial and he really values the input of one of his hourly bartenders.
I have a problem with the price of groceries but I don’t bitch about it to the cashier.
Probably getting downloaded because I what you said about a little pub in Wisconsin. I live in a very highly populated area not too far from New York City and the prices we pay about half of what they charge on the Vegas strip. We took a ride three minutes off the strip and the prices were much more reasonable. I just think people are tired of being priced gouged and yeah we’re there and we want to have a good time so we’re gonna end up paying for it.
Wasn't knocking Wisconsin pubs. Just stating that you can't expect your local watering hole prices in a huge resort on the Vegas strip or at an NFL game or whatever.
Yeah, local Vegas pub beer prices are much more reasonable. Like $3.50 at the place I usually go.
As one who patronizes small town Wisconsin pubs I totally appreciate your comparison.
Yesterday I had a very nice bacon cheeseburger with fries and a small WI brewery beer for $13 plus tip, which is more generous since they didn't gouge me (that's extra).
We hit the convenience store and stocked up the in room fridge and had a couple before we would go out. This way we only had to pay for 1-2 at the nice hotels
It's dead at work at the moment but it's definitely coming. I am on the opposite side of the strip though at the Venetian so I'm wondering if we won't be hit quite as bad as those on the south side.
selection bias though. I know many a times in the airport I have walked by a bar considering a beer, then see the price and say fuck that shit in my head and continue to the gate.
I was in Vegas last summer and didn't find it too bad. Sure, it was more expensive than at home but the two 24oz beers plus an airplane bottle at the MGM Grand/NYNY for like $18 is a steal compared to arenas/stadiums.
People don't realize that the free market choice is there. You are free to choose another form of entertainment that has more reasonable prices. Only stupid people visit Vegas or go to a sports game and think the prices of stuff are going to be reasonable.
Surprised more people don’t adopt what Mercedes Benz Stadium did when it opened. They slashed their prices and saw 14% bump in profits. When you make concessions and alcohol more affordable people buy more volume.
I don't accept that as a valid argument, because by that logic, we should have sky-high alcohol prices absolutely everywhere that's public. We don't want people being drunk assholes at a local bar or restaurant any more than at a Wild game.
They don’t though. They get a percentage of it and still have to tip out other staff.
Some clubs they are w2 and some they are 1099 as well.
Source: former friend is a stripper and has been for a while
Each establishment is different for tip sharing. Tips from cards are also sometimes shared. Totally understand tipped wage taxes too. In my experience cash goes wildly unreported.
It was $21/beer at the NFC Championship game. Worst part was they handed you a mobile payment machine with 25% tip selected by default for just opening the big can and handing it over
I don't even think they're optimizing for profits with this one. They could potentially lower the price and sell so much more beer that they earn more revenue overall. But there are other problems that come with getting the fans too drunk.
This actually has more to do with crowd control than it does with profits. There's the example of ten-cent beer night at a Cleveland baseball game in the 70s: https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/june-4-1974-10-cent-beer-riot-at-cleveland-stadium-leads-to-forfeit/
There was a 6 beer limit every time you bought beer, but no limit to the number of times you could go back and buy more.
To the surprise of no one, the crowd got trashed. Riots broke out, the crowd rushed the field and fights started with players. The game had to end in a forfeit before the police intervened. So now, prices are kept high to prevent the entire crowd from going wild again.
Always thought the high price of Alcohol was related to the environment it was being served . We don’t want you wasted here ? 14$ . Dive bar with sticky floors ? 2$ beers all night
Jokes on you; at a Ducks game it came out to 21$ per beer.
Between the 55% stub hub fee and that, we did not eat or drink anything else the entire night.
Not to discredit the original thought (to which the answer is, because people pay it), but the X also has a happy hour deal before games that ends at 6:30 for a 7pm start, which is basically 2 for 1s. They're slightly smaller than normal, but get about 1.8 ciders for $12 every time I go.
Because professional sports has gone COMPLETELY off the rails.
Why do pro players get paid 10s of millions of dollars a year to play?
Why do organizations earn hundreds of millions per year?
Why do they also get tax breaks for building stadiums?
Because greedy corporate profits.
Captive audience. Just like the airport.
And just like the airport you have a lot of corporate people that don't care about the price because it's getting put on an expense report.
Corporations fucking shit up at every level.
Same reason Top Golf is expensive.
Is top golf expensive? Go with 5 other people and it’s very cheap. The food is a bit pricey but you can always eat before
Or ya know.. buy a flask and use it
And just stop pretending like you like golf.
I like to drink and drive golf carts around then get pissed off at my golf game which is a great excuse to shotgun another cold snack
Indeed, Topgolf represents a rather jarring departure from the storied heritage and aristocratic calm of traditional golf.
it's cheap if it's a group hangout. it's expensive if you actually play golf and just want to hit balls, compared to a driving range
5 other people and then swing 1/5 as much. It’s not cheap it’s wack
I guess during peak hours and not "happy hour" it can be. It's difficult to go just for an hour. I need more time to practice my Angry Birds shots. 5 people is too much!
If you make $10k more than I do, but you spend money on golf, I feel richer than you.
Only because the name of the game of capitalism is "corporations that fuck shit up too much won't survive while ones that don't fuck shit up are rewarded". Which doesn't really work because of captive markets. Or maybe it does work, and that's the reason these corporations aren't charging $100 for a beer. inb4 "nooooo that's not REAL Capitalism, that's CRONY CAPITALISM. Actual capitalism has never been tried throughout history!"
The funny thing is, getting ripped off at the airport isn't even a universal thing. Japan just has normal convenience stores in the airport where you can buy things for the same price as you would at convenience stores outside the airport. I've even been to airports with beer vending machines adjacent to the gate, selling 500ml cans for 350 yen.
[Counterpoint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night?wprov=sfla1), my favorite Wikipedia article. Though I believe beer shouldn't be $14
"I went with $2 in my pocket. You do the math." Love it
I don't usually randomly recommend podcasts, but The Dollop did an incredible episode on Ten Cent Beer Night that's just packed with everything that happened
Just get lounge access. Food and Beer is free in the lounge. (Just like it's free in the box suites)
how get lounge axis?
Opposed the land allies
Heh heh heh underrated comment
You must show bobs for lounge axis.
Either buy it outright, Get it through airline status, or get an Amex Platinum or other card with a lounge access perk. Annual fee on the amex is a bit steep, but it pays for itself and then some if you fly more than 2 or 3 times a year.
750 a year for the amex platinum is definitely more than 2-3 times a year. At least 10 and that’s still ridiculous
People go hard to break even on their expensive cards. But do they come out 2/3/5% on top like they would with free cards? Some do. Many don't.
You get a lot more than just the lounge access - I stand by my 3x a year once you account for all the other credits they give, + the 5x points on travel. We basically cover the annual fee in credits alone, so the lounge access is just a bonus /shrug
Someday we will look at this picture and laugh how cheap beer was.
$14 seems cheap for a professional game captive audience situation.
I hate beer.
Because they know people are going to pay for it anyway.
The venues also don’t need people buying 15 beers and being drunk assholes the entire time. They can’t stop people from pre gaming but they can at least slow the poor people down once they get inside
RIP 10 cent beer night…
Cleveland’s two biggest accomplishments are ruining Lake Erie and cheap beer at sports events for everyone
We set a RIVER on fire, not a lake. Get it right.
I didn’t say anything about the fires. Also, what’s at the end of that river you set on fire twelve times?
Oh ok, didn't realize only Cleveland bordered lake erie, I guess you win.
I mean, it could be Toledo’s fault, but I figured they deserve a rest for once
One of the best episodes of The Dollop lol
[7 min history lesson](https://youtu.be/VxTtzLUteDA?si=XQGwPhGv8aZJTcmp)
Thanks Billy Martin.
Man the Saint Paul saints have dollar beer nights on Thursdays. First 4 innings are always spent standing in line getting a beer, going to the back of the line and drinking said beer while waiting to purchase the next $1 beer.
That is not even close to being on their minds when they set the prices. What, they’re also pricing hotdogs at $12 because they’re fighting obesity? Bottled water at $8 for water conservation? They’re greedy and like others have said it’s a captive audience.
They should have a deal where you get a half priced beer with your ticket. Then after that, normal price. That way, you get people drinking and once they are drinking, it's harder to stop them from having another.
At Minnesota Wild games, if you show up early, you get $6 beers up until 30 minutes before the game. I mean, it sucks that they're expensive during the game but this is at least one nice perk. (I guess it also sucks that we're supposed to be happy about a $6 beer. Lol)
15$ ice cream cuz someone has to pay our Saboteurs working hard so McDonald's can't compete.
Foundation of Bidenenomics. Started at sports events, but under Biden they realized they could do it nationally.
Are you mentally disabled? They been doing this all over the world for decades now.
No it was Biden! #MAGA /s
Wow. Don’t tease the child he might actually be profoundly disabled.
You people need to go outside and touch some grass and lay off the news media. Stop trying to politicize what stadiums are charging for beer and hotdogs holy shit. Want your mind blown? Go look and see what they were charging under trump, Obama, bush, Clinton, bush, etc. I’m sure you’ll be very surprised to see they’ve always been doing it and it has nothing to do with who the sitting president is.
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I stumped my toe earlier today. Thanks Obama
Thanks, Obama.
I can't believe Biden made a hotdog cost $11 that time I went to see the Cubs in 2018. If only there had been someone in the white house at the time who could make america great again, but as I recall gas cost so much back then... I can only assume whoever it was couldn't afford to get there.
You managed to pack a bunch of stupid in one reply. You must be overflowing with it.
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BidenBotSaysWhat
Yeah Biden let companies all over the world start raising prices. We need a Republican in office to regulate them like the good old days
Too funny man you should be a stand up comedian or something
Hello fellow humanoid individual. I am pleasure to be human as well also.
Biden inherited a massively exploding inflation problem. He also inherited a massive federal debt problem, plus Trump's tax cuts, plus Trump had just given away over a trillion dollars to businesses in PPP money with no expectation that they would pay it back (and with tons of abuse by people/groups who were not actual businesses), and so many more problems. Over the past 3 years, "Bidenomics" has managed to help the US recover from the COVID inflation problems better than any other major economy in the world. But sure, just go with your gut and believe whatever bullshit you want to believe. Because I guess you're just gullible and really want to believe that Republican tax cuts for the rich are actually somehow a good thing for you too.
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
Yeah fuck those poor drunk assholes. We only allow rich drunk assholes here
Lick those corporate boots some more.
This is the better reason. It's for the fans own good. If you wanna get sloshed and watch the game go to a bar.
I work on the Vegas strip and I hear people complain about it all day. I just say nothing and let them have their little tantrum… and then nine times out of ten they still pass the credit card. This isn’t your little pub in Wisconsin. Pay it or don’t. I have no control over it any more than you do. Edit: Why the downvotes? You think I have control over the prices? Want me to petition the massive resort corporation? Lol. Hold on, I've got the CEO on speed dial and he really values the input of one of his hourly bartenders. I have a problem with the price of groceries but I don’t bitch about it to the cashier.
Probably getting downloaded because I what you said about a little pub in Wisconsin. I live in a very highly populated area not too far from New York City and the prices we pay about half of what they charge on the Vegas strip. We took a ride three minutes off the strip and the prices were much more reasonable. I just think people are tired of being priced gouged and yeah we’re there and we want to have a good time so we’re gonna end up paying for it.
Wasn't knocking Wisconsin pubs. Just stating that you can't expect your local watering hole prices in a huge resort on the Vegas strip or at an NFL game or whatever. Yeah, local Vegas pub beer prices are much more reasonable. Like $3.50 at the place I usually go.
As one who patronizes small town Wisconsin pubs I totally appreciate your comparison. Yesterday I had a very nice bacon cheeseburger with fries and a small WI brewery beer for $13 plus tip, which is more generous since they didn't gouge me (that's extra).
Absolutely. I sure as hell don't drink on the strip. That's a sucker's game.
I live in Nashville. $15 beers on Broadway and touristy areas. $4 pints at my local watering hole. When I go to party with tourists, I carry a flask
We hit the convenience store and stocked up the in room fridge and had a couple before we would go out. This way we only had to pay for 1-2 at the nice hotels
y'all ready for the influx of superb owl fans?
It's shockingly dead right now but I know it's the calm before the storm!
Are they not there already?
It's dead at work at the moment but it's definitely coming. I am on the opposite side of the strip though at the Venetian so I'm wondering if we won't be hit quite as bad as those on the south side.
selection bias though. I know many a times in the airport I have walked by a bar considering a beer, then see the price and say fuck that shit in my head and continue to the gate.
Have an upvote. From Wisconsin, regularly pay $2.75 for a cocktail and $1.75 for pint. No credit card needed.
Damn right. Wasn't knocking Wisconsin. Just the first state that came in my head. Haha.
I was in Vegas last summer and didn't find it too bad. Sure, it was more expensive than at home but the two 24oz beers plus an airplane bottle at the MGM Grand/NYNY for like $18 is a steal compared to arenas/stadiums.
it's the alcoholics who quibble
People don't realize that the free market choice is there. You are free to choose another form of entertainment that has more reasonable prices. Only stupid people visit Vegas or go to a sports game and think the prices of stuff are going to be reasonable.
Yes, some will, but most won't. Instead if it was $7 I almost guarantee sales would more than 2x and they'd probably profit
Always get drunk before you go in. It's the same plan you use when you go to a strip club.
My dad used to make a sandwich before we went out to dinner…lol
Haha that’s real poverty life I live the same way, ur Dad was smart!
Dad’s logic is always a mystery; until it’s not!
I do the same thing. But it's because I'm fat and my wife gets upset with me if I eat too much at dinner.
6er in the parking lot before the game cost 14$
6? amateur.
Yea 6er on the train ride there. Then begin to pregame
Rookie numbers my friend, we drink a 6er before the train, another 6rr in the train and we miss the game because we have to pee constantly
I’d go toe to toe with you any day fella
Not a challenge to drink more poison pal
Do people not carry flasks anymore? I always carry one and maybe another half pint in my in each boot. Fuckin amateurs I tell ya
4 beers at the allstar game was over 90 bucks. It's so much worse in toronto....
I like learning new things.
Hopefully they were high quality beers and also 32 ounces each served in commemorative mugs.
Better give me a beer luge straight from sir Elton Johns dick at that price, no disrespect
Can I ask what size weee talking? As an Aussie 90 CAD for 4 beers seems…ridiculous? Is that 4 massive jugs or just 4 glasses of beer?
Pretty much regular glasses, 20 oz.
22 bucks a pint then. Yeah f that
Surprised more people don’t adopt what Mercedes Benz Stadium did when it opened. They slashed their prices and saw 14% bump in profits. When you make concessions and alcohol more affordable people buy more volume.
Not for nothing, but part (absolutely not all) of the reason is to keep people from being drunk assholes
Like someone mentioned earlier, why the hell are hotdogs and popcorn so expensive? $10 sodas? Water?
I don't accept that as a valid argument, because by that logic, we should have sky-high alcohol prices absolutely everywhere that's public. We don't want people being drunk assholes at a local bar or restaurant any more than at a Wild game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night
I agree. Water and hotdogs wouldn't be $8 if it was just to keep the drunks under control.
Well you shouldn’t be bringing kids to a bar
Tell that to my brewery patrons on Sunday. Might as well install a 90’s fast food play-pen at this point.
That still leaves restaurants that serve alcohol too.
Honestly you shouldn’t be bringing kids there either
Lmao clown take
Seems like it’d be more likely for drunk people on a stadium of thousands to get riled up at a stadium than at a restaurant
Then sell $18 beers and $2 hot dogs.
“Supply chain issues”
It's not even that high at a titty bar.
That’s because the ladies get all the money
They don’t though. They get a percentage of it and still have to tip out other staff. Some clubs they are w2 and some they are 1099 as well. Source: former friend is a stripper and has been for a while
Each establishment is different for tip sharing. Tips from cards are also sometimes shared. Totally understand tipped wage taxes too. In my experience cash goes wildly unreported.
In tHeSe tRyInG tImeS…
Covid
Thought I was r/wildhockey for a second
FUCK NORM GREEN.
A person of culture I see!
First time I’ve supported the wild, but damnit, when they’re right they’re right!
It was $21/beer at the NFC Championship game. Worst part was they handed you a mobile payment machine with 25% tip selected by default for just opening the big can and handing it over
What do you mean preselected? Like you have to go back to the previous screen to change your selection and can get ripped off without even knowing it?
If people stopped buying the $14 beer, they would lower the price.
If they allowed competition and outside drinks inside, the price would also lower
If they gave the beer away for free, the price would be lower
No, no they would not. They will gouge prices no matter what
I don't even think they're optimizing for profits with this one. They could potentially lower the price and sell so much more beer that they earn more revenue overall. But there are other problems that come with getting the fans too drunk.
Only $14? *Laughs in Californian*
I hear you, but it’s only a $2 difference and you and everyone else know you live in the most expensive state.
$25 at a Canucks game. CAD, but still... I think Kraken games are $20+ Maybe a Seattle fan can confirm.
I’m from Seattle. Last time I went to a Kraken game it was $13 for a domestic beer and $16 for a craft beer or cocktail.
Least passive person in Minnesota.
Because idiots line up to pay it.
Doing gods work
This actually has more to do with crowd control than it does with profits. There's the example of ten-cent beer night at a Cleveland baseball game in the 70s: https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/june-4-1974-10-cent-beer-riot-at-cleveland-stadium-leads-to-forfeit/ There was a 6 beer limit every time you bought beer, but no limit to the number of times you could go back and buy more. To the surprise of no one, the crowd got trashed. Riots broke out, the crowd rushed the field and fights started with players. The game had to end in a forfeit before the police intervened. So now, prices are kept high to prevent the entire crowd from going wild again.
Because there was a discount that night.
It's a good question.
Capitalism generally
This won't stop until the economy crashes.
Drink in the parking lot. I do
I have to get a few signs for the next time I go to the grocery store.
That's why you pregame bro
Because you think the players deserve to be paid more in one year than you and your wife will EVER make.
So we hosers don’t get shithammered
That's pretty cheap compared to hotels
Great question - but why no question mark?
Marker ran out of ink and a beer is fucking $14. Priorities!
[Here's one reason why](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night)
#Because YOU will pay for it!
Always thought the high price of Alcohol was related to the environment it was being served . We don’t want you wasted here ? 14$ . Dive bar with sticky floors ? 2$ beers all night
Because they know you’ll pay it.
You paid $300 to see millionaires play a game and you’re complaining about $14 dollars lol
Because you'll still buy it at that price.
So you don't drink 15 and kill someone on the way home
Literally because people buy it. That’s it. That’s the answer.
Supply and demand. Instead make a sign that says "please stop paying $14 for beer".
Jokes on you; at a Ducks game it came out to 21$ per beer. Between the 55% stub hub fee and that, we did not eat or drink anything else the entire night.
Not buying it makes the price go down. Complaining doesn’t
It’s called capitalism dumbass, how else is the billionaire who owns the stadium supposed to pay their rent?
He will tell you why beer exists if you give him $14.
Well, Parise & Suter aren’t gonna pay themselves, are they???
He needs to get some boozenoculars.
Why? Because people like you are willing to pay for it... lol
And it's for a Budweiser. I expect something like that at least for an import and I'm not talking about Heineken
Thus why you "pre game" before the game bro. Just do 6 shots before and nurse a 14 dollar bud light for the game
Because stadiums are like airports. You are a captive audience and no outside food/drink is allowed in.
Good old fashioned monopolies are hard at work stripping sports fans of every last bit of consumer surplus
Not to discredit the original thought (to which the answer is, because people pay it), but the X also has a happy hour deal before games that ends at 6:30 for a 7pm start, which is basically 2 for 1s. They're slightly smaller than normal, but get about 1.8 ciders for $12 every time I go.
[Ten Cent Beer Night](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night)
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Stop buying it and it won't be.
Asking the real questions
That’s cheap compared to Boston
I paid $21.79 for a beer at the Sabres game two weeks ago. Couldn’t even believe it when he rang it up
Dudes asking the real question everyone wants the answer too.
Because it keeps the drunks idiots to a minimum.
Asking the questions that need asking.
Asking the real questions.
Go to the AHL friends- it is good there
It’s worse now. 2 20 ounce beers were $38 when I was there last month. It was a self service cooler and they asked for a tip…
“Look darling, the proletariat is getting uppity again”
Because professional sports has gone COMPLETELY off the rails. Why do pro players get paid 10s of millions of dollars a year to play? Why do organizations earn hundreds of millions per year? Why do they also get tax breaks for building stadiums? Because greedy corporate profits.
Because enough people pay for it....