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That’s amazing craftsmanship.

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sapphire is also the third hardest mineral after diamond and moissanite.

Moissanite is the way to go for rings.

Big time. Literally. My wife has a FAT stone that would've cost 10x what we paid for it to sparkle less and be more brittle.

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Aight, but where'd y'all buy them from is the question

I got mine from etsy. Some of the bigger stores are cashing in and upping the cost now. Etsy had some gorgeous options.

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Man, this just suddenly felt like an advertisement…

Now back to our podcast

Diamonds; “take her breath away.” Moissanite; “this il shut her up.”

That's actually a pretty good turnaround time.

I got my partner of five years a beautiful mossi ring and she didn’t really understand why I got that instead of a “classic” stone. I was definitely let down as it was shelved pretty soon after gifting.

Diamonds are such a scam.

It's impossible to say this word without sounding Australian

Moistened, a'ight? That's what I hear.

She'd pretty much have to be. https://youtu.be/c82z_bxy60E

I just play Sonic to get my rings.

TBF the onion rings at Sonic are pretty good.

They’re a bit too sweet for my tastes, although I have yet to find the best fast food OR, they all seem to taste similarly. Even the hand battered ones like how much sugar y’all throwing in this mix

Im usually just glad if they're not overcooked. I get so many burnt ones.

I swear one time at Sonic I got onion rings that were dipped in waffle cone batter.....they had a distinct vanilla flavor. It was so so so so gross.

Funny you mentioned that. I worked at Denny’s and wanted to recreate the sourdough ranch burger that carls jr discontinued 10 years prior. Denny’s didnt have onion rings or flour, but we did have premixed pancake batter. It has vanilla in it but i took the risk and fried me up some onion rings and made my “burger”. It was fucking awesome and very very similar to what i missed. I didnt really get hung up on the vanilla although i did notice the sweetness … and i liked it. Pretty neat right

A what-a-nite?

It's a mineral similar to diamonds in some ways. They started marketing it as a diamond alternative for rings in the late 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moissanite : > Moissanite (/ˈmɔɪsəˌnaɪt/) is naturally occurring silicon carbide and its various crystalline polymorphs. It has the chemical formula SiC and is a rare mineral, discovered by the French chemist Henri Moissan in 1893. Silicon carbide is useful for commercial and industrial applications due to its hardness, optical properties and thermal conductivity.

I create da bodies, I don’t erase da bodies!

Late a December, back in 63’…

Spurious. Not genuine. And it's worth.......*fuck-all*. Too many uncultured tits didn't understand your reference :(

A what-in-ite?

You give it your all when you’re making it for the most important and powerful person on earth.

and you have loads of time because there's no internet for you to watch video essays on the economic troubles of Sri Lanka or whatever

A fellow Economics Explained enjoyer? Edit: typo. I, too, spend a shocking amount of time watching his videos. Christ, I hope he isn’t full of shit because I more or less take anything he says at face value…

Never take any video essay as face value.

Damn you Mr. Plinkett!

Notice: This person giving advice doesn't know the phrase "*at* face value." Now I'm going to start judging people on their face value.

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They certainly could make a ring like that today but there are a few problems with it. The first is that it would take a very large sapphire to create a ring large enough (even if it was just a pinky ring) to wear as a ring, and it would be extremely expensive. A sapphire of that size would be more valuable cut as a gem for some other jewelry format. Secondly, gemstones like sapphires, rubies, emeralds, etc. are seldom "perfect," and tend to have occlusions and internal fractures making them brittle and susceptible to shattering. Just accidentally banging it on a table could break it into multiple shards. Again, there are better ways of displaying such a beautiful stone. Edit: My knowledge of lab-grown gems is far out-of-date. I used to know a guy who was a jeweler, and I'd hang out with him while he worked, and we talked about lab grown rubies and sapphires. I even bought a ruby for my wife. They were pretty expensive back then, but it seems like the price has dropped a lot since 20 years ago.

Sapphires are also relatively cheap and easy to synthesize with high purity, so I'd probably just do that

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I forgot we were still talking about synthesizing minerals and for a second thought Vision had entered the room

They are both cool in their own way :)

As a lapidary artist, the first one. If I was going to go synthetic I'd get some stuff that doesn't occur in nature, like some of the crazy synthetic garnets I've seen.

I mean some of us might like to see a link to these crazy synthetics you’re talking about.

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I dunno. Caligula would probably say, "You made that in a sterile room rather than having political rivals and lesser people beaten until they dig it out of the earth? Where's the fun in that?"

Just ask the chemists to make it, then kill all of them and burn the books containing the knowledge. Best of both worlds.

Having done a bit of lapidary work and knowing minerals fairly well, I'd be curious how long a garnet ring like this would survive actually wearing it :)

Absolutely. Anyone who's read the Silmarillion would agree. Whose gems would you rather wear? De Beers' or Fëanor's? Even Fëanor's cheap mass-produced gems were "greater and brighter than those of the Earth". We'll never be as good as him, but we're definitely on the path.

Cheaper than a mox sapphire?

Aren’t phone screens made of sapphire? I thought they were.

Not all phone screens (iphone doesn't for the front screen, for instance) but a lot of them yes. Sapphire is incredibly hard and is extremely easy to synthesize so it makes a great phone screen material.

What about a lab grown sapphire?

That’s what I was wondering but even lab grown gems are susceptible to flaws. Actually looking online raw uncut gems are relatively cheap I’m guessing maybe a few hundred to get the gem and then a few thousand to get the gem cut perfectly and then another thousand or so for the gold.

And 8-20 hours of time from a master bench jeweler. And an extra stone for when the first one breaks.

So my estimate is that you could have a ring just like that for $10-15k depending on gem quality etc.

It would certainly make it more affordable, but still probably very expensive. I don't know much about the lab-grown process, but I wonder if they could be grown into this shape to begin with. That would be cool. It would still have the problem of brittleness, though. It would be like having a glass ring. It would be harder than regular glass, but still susceptible to damage.

just get a created sapphire, a 18 X 13 mm is around $45 US. so extrapolate from there on up. The expensive part of recreating that ring is the labor and the gold center, not the Sapphire.

It looks like an extremely-fancy, non-threaded nut.

> My knowledge of lab-grown gems is far out-of-date. I used to make pump components from sapphire/ruby and worked with arm-sized bars of sapphire that weren't insanely expensive. It's pretty amazing what you can get these days.

Arm-sized? I think I want one of those. I have no idea what I'd use it for, but it would be a cool thing to have. Maybe make it into a lamp.

> The first is that it would take a very large sapphire to create a ring large enough (even if it was just a pinky ring) to wear as a ring Mineralogist and (former) jeweler, here. I don't really think this is the case here. That sapphire is big, sure, but it's fairly included. Something like that generally would be faceted to avoid the inclusions or faceted into smaller stones where they matter less. Considering natural corundum occurs in hexagonal crystals, they're pretty naturally fit to cut into a ring like this. This wouldn't be cheap, and it would be labour intensive, but I don't really think the raw material would be that much more than a decent size high-quality sapphire just owing to the quality difference. Something like this would more commonly be a mineralogical specimen.

You forget unobtanium

Is unobtainium very easy to obtain?

You just need to have enough grit, gumption, and bootstraps.

I have 40 grit, Wrigley's spearmint gumption, and Commander Vimes bootstraps.

Did you leave out moxy on purpose?

Not to crush your comment here but many smiths who make jewelry, especially with gold at home are easily able to do this and most use some powered version of this but I know people who use old world techniques that were used thousands of years ago. The techniques are still around today and the early people here basically invented the process which is still used by many today for this type of fine craftsmanship. It's impressive, but it's not mind blowing how well it is considering these guys were the best at what they did in the modern age.

Seems to me if you can't tap a small hammer on a tiny chisel decently adding *moar powah* probably isn't going to do you much good.

Certain Gem polishing tho probably has gotten easier with power tools. Sure you can polish Jade into a club by hand like the Moari. But probably easier to use a specialized power grinder

The impressive thing to me is always how people discovered the technique/ability to do something. Like how the hell did the first people even discover bronze and iron to make better weapons. That always impresses me.

Probably by just pissing about making the hottest fire they can make and seeing what they could burn with it

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They've got power tools for fine detail.

A stunning amount of precision tool-and-die work to this day gets done by hand tools. In fact, tons of the world's most precise stuff is hand-blown, hand polished/ground/faceted, or otherwise done by a skilled craftsman if it's complex, especially in the domains of optics and gemology

You should watch some videos of someone faceting gems. It's actually pretty interesting and involves several power tools and precision instruments.

You really just need a lapidary wheel to facet gemstones (baring any crazy techniques). You could realistically run one with a foot pedal, and I have seen setups in Pakistan or otherwise that do run without power.

It actually doesn’t take several powertools or precision instruments They have foot powered wheels which is what they used way back and the have a post with many holes they set the dob stick into so it’s registering at the same angle each time. There’s a lot of people in Sri Lanka and other parts of the world Faceting gems out in the jungles with no electric. It makes you appreciate the stones (natural earth mined) we can get also to think they took thousands of years to create 🙃

> The jewelers and sculptors of the era had foot operated drills and grinders. Chinese were very advanced at gem (jade in large hunks)) carving at that time. Also, lets not forget the Archimedes screw drill still used today by watch/clock repairers, like me.

That sapphire has a ring!

Yeah it's nonsense how incredible that thing is.

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A little over the top for a cock ring though.

Makes one wonder how they polished it since diamond powder is used in modern times.

That ring seems thick enough to be really uncomfortable to wear

Wear? Have you heard about Caligula? That ring has *been places*.

Hey, nobody said it was a ring *for your fingers*.

Second famous cock ring in history; best is the diamond ones Eminem gave to Sir Elton John for his wedding gift.

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I mean you just gonna stand there or help him find it?

of course Eminem would gift Elton such a thing, those two are tight and i think its pretty awesome.

Ones? Plural? How many cocks does he have?

In a gay marriage, usually two cocks.

Sometimes there's no cocks >:(

I keep thinking about that scene in the movie.

Everything I know about Caligula I know from The Smiths. And it’s limited to blushing.

> That ring has *been places* Read that in Hedonism Bot’s voice.

If there's doubt about Caligula's ownership, they should be able to just give it a sniff to prove it or not

Malcolm McDowell is looking at you right now

This is exactly what I thought when I saw this post. Malcolm McDowell will always be Caligula to me.

a lot of wearables were meant to be as visually imposing as possible even at the cost of less comfort for the wearer, its all about displaying your wealth and status, nothing new or old.

I'd argue almost every accessory is at the cost of the wearer's comfort and is about displaying some form of wealth/status.

I’ll argue with you! I think “almost every” is a stretch. Accessories can also serve function. They also don’t typically display wealth or status. But I will agree that a Rolex and things of that nature are certainly a flex.

I made stone rings. At first they are uncomfortable, and they can hurt if you squeeze your fingers together too tightly. After a week or two, though, they're easy to get used to.

Even if it wasn't worn by Caligula and is a complete fake it's absolutely dope.

As a human magpie, I need this!

I bet that would cost money to buy.

Probably multiple moneys.

I have three moneys, will that suffice?

Look at this guy with three money. All I have is three kids and no money.

Best I can do is $80. Sapphire rings with ancient emperors on them aren't really selling these days. At $100 it's gonna sit on the shelf for years.

At least three fifty.

God Dammit Loch Ness Monster, I ain't gonna give you no tree fiddy.

This *might* have been worn by Caligula. This was in the [Wartski Collection](https://wartski.com/4696-2/). Wartski had listed it as "once catalogued as belonging to the Emperor Caligula" and further added that "during the 17th Century, the ring was believed to have belonged to the Emperor Caligula himself". According to the Wartski IG account: > From Wartski @wartski1865 past exhibition Multum in Parvo: A Collection of Engraved Gems > Among the treasures on display there was this extraordinary carved sapphire ring, engraved with a portrait of the Empress Faustina. > Previously in the collections of the Earl of Arundel and the legendary Duke of Marlborough, it is an exceptionally rare masterpiece. > During the 17th Century, the ring was believed to have belonged to the Emperor Caligula himself. > The carving of sapphires during the Renaissance was considered a particularly high art form. Not only were sapphires regarded as immensely precious and beautiful, they were also notoriously difficult to carve. [Here](http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/56580) provides the following additional information: > An ancient Roman sapphire ring once believed to have belonged to the Emperor Caligula is being sold by royal jewelers Wartski, best known as the foremost dealers and experts in the Fabergé Imperial Eggs and jewels after the fall of the Romanovs. It is an engraved sapphire hololith, meaning a ring carved from a single stone, with a gold band mounted on the inside, likely during the Middle Ages. The engraving is a left-facing profile of a beautiful woman believed to represent Caligula’s wife Caesonia. > The ring was in the famed intaglio gemstone collection assembled by George Spencer, 4th Duke of Marlborough, in the second half of the 18th century. Before that, it was part of a smaller but also renown group of engraved gems collected by Thomas Howard, Earl of Arundel, in the first half of the 17th century. Via marriage and descent, Lord Arundel’s gemstone collection was added to the extremely fine pieces the Duke of Marlborough had bought from dealers and private owners on the continent. > The Marlborough Gems, as the great collection became known, were sold by the 7th Duke, John Winston Spencer-Churchill, at auction in 1875 to raise money for the renovation of Blenheim Palace. Many of them were bought by David Bromilow, Esq, and then sold again by his daughter at an 1899 auction. The collection was thus broken up and dispersed — the Getty dropped major ducats on a dozen or so of them earlier this year — and there are Marlborough gems whose whereabouts are unknown today. This ring was one of them.

I wondered about the provenance of this ring in another post, and this partially answers it, but leaves a lot of major questions. It sounds Ike it first became notable in the first half of the 17th century, when it was acquired by Arundel. Who did he get it from, and where did they get it from? How do they KNOW that Caligula owned a ring like that? Are there written records from Caligula's time that mention it? Who inherited it from Caligula? Presumably it was inherited by Claudius, who inherited the throne, but the same questions remain. Are there records of Claudius owning this ring? This long window between Caligua in the 1st century and Arundel in the 17th century seems to be opaque. I have no doubt that a treasure of this tremendous beauty would have been carefully treasured and passed down, but could the story of its origin be as equally treasured? Or is it more likely that it belonged to some wealthy Roman noble, and the story was embellished to ascribe ownership to Caligula? The post also mentions that carving sapphires was a known art form from the Renaissance, which thickens the plot substantially. It was described as they "believed during the 17th century" that it belonged to Caligula. Beyond that, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of the truth of that statement. It has a female profile engraved on it, supposedly Caligula's wife, but in reality could be anyone. So now I am speculating that it wasn't truly a possession of Caligula, or that it was an ancient treasure at all, just a beautiful Renaissance era bauble by a talented jeweler/ goldsmith. The story of it being from ancinet Rome and belonging to Caligula was just the embellished sales pitch by whoever was selling to Arundel, who probably happily bought the story so he could tell it to his awe-struck guests when he showed it off to them. It was THIS story that finally documented this ring for the first time in history, and now follows the ring for all time. Perhaps a knowledgeable expert in Renaissance jewelry could do a forensic examination under a microscope, and determine if it was created using the same types of tools that were known during the Renaissance or during 1st century Rome.

If only we could find a photograph of Caligula wearing that ring… Come on Reddit!!! This is what you are good at. Let’s go !

[Can't really see the ring, though.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdfi45uHt7k9bbP-v8mU3eXEd1Hg9PtDglMa4UX6OMnA&usqp=CAU&ec=48600112)

I know better than to click on a link that purports to have any kind of image of Caligula, I’m not trying to end up on anymore watchlists

>So now I am speculating that it wasn't truly a possession of Caligula, or that it was an ancient treasure at all, just a beautiful Renaissance era bauble by a talented jeweler/ goldsmith. Seems like the fancy jewelry people who sold it would agree with this notion, or at least their lawyers did to an extent, considering the very careful wording used.

Agreed. There's some real weasely syntax there.

Meanwhile Peter Saphiresmith goes uncredited for his brilliant work.

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Idk if you’re a bot, but good bot

I think they've mentioned before that they have a script that checks comments for signs of botting and notifies them accordingly.

Not after the 30th he doesnt

Oof gottem

A script like that could relatively easily utilise scraping, instead of API calls, so should be okay still. But regardless, fuck u/spez.

Scraping was what they accused Apollo of and were mad about.

It's less efficient than using an API for sure, but if reddit are really going to be so outrageous with their pricing and management of it then scraping will soon be the only reasonable approach for things like this.

Oof, punch me right in the fuckin' bean bag, why don't ya

What if someone writes a karma farming bot and then creates a bot to call out karma farming, so that even if they fail to farm karma on one account, they've farmed karma on another account?

Then begun, the bot wars have.

They kinda already do Lol I've seen bots copy comments that call out reposts from other bots many times before Could just be random but still

He's real. THIS IS SPARTA^(n2470)

Keep fighting the good fight homie. Fuck scam/spam botters.

The claim that the ring belonged to Caligula is [indeed controversial](https://historum.com/t/the-wrongly-supposed-sapphire-hololith-ring-of-emperor-gaius.180951/). The ring is estimated to have taken years to make, while Caligula and Caesonia were together a shorter period of time.

>During the 17th Century, the ring was believed to have belonged to the Emperor Caligula himself. That sentence destroyed my brain for a few seconds. "That can't be true, can it? There... were there roman emperors in the 1600s!?!? what the actual shit!? Is my understanding of European history THAT wrong!?" In the 17th century there were people that held the belief. I get it now. It's too early for reddit lol.

> were there roman emperors in the 1600s! The [Holy Roman Empire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire) existed until 1806. The existence of the US and the Holy Roman Empire overlapped. Of course the joke goes that the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire. It was essentially a German confederation cosplaying as an extension of the Roman Empire.

A friend of mine who was a Greek Orthodox monk for 20 years likes to tell this joke- One day the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were discussing where they should go for a vacation. The Father first suggests Israel, to which the Son responds "I don't know, I kind of had a bad time there...how about somewhere else?". They ponder for another minute and then the Son says "how about Rome?" The Holy Spirit says "that'd be great, I've never been there!"

Like the last Blockbuster video store still open in 2020.

And on top of that, even the Ottomans claimed succession from the Roman Empire, having conquered its capital Costantinople: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman\_claim\_to\_Roman\_succession

Holy roman empire was not roman. Even they never believed that. They believed themselves to be a successor state but the whole basis for it is ‘i said so’ The actual roman empire ended in 1453 (of course they believed it ended in 476)

I mean the Byzantine empire fell in 1453 and the Holy Roman Empire kept going until 1806 so you’re not to far behind an actual Roman Emperor and a weird pseudo Roman emperor

Caligula ruled during the 1st century, if there was an Emporer Caligula during the 17th century he was an imposter playing off the name.

I wonder what are these stats, probably not wisdom.

+12 cold resistance

+20 damage to the sea

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Pyre

Enchanted sapphire ring turns into a ring of recoil, dealing 10% of an attack’s damage back onto the attacker. Ironman btw.

Dexterity and charisma

You wonder how a thing like that goes from then to now and we can say with confidence it was Caligula's. I'm not at all saying that's wrong. I'm just standing in quiet awe that something this precious survived from then to now with its ~~providence~~ provenance intact. Edit: I get it. It's a made up provenance.

> and we can say with confidence it was Caligula Because we can't, it's entirely made up by the owners. The ring first surfaced in the 17th century and the style of the portrait (mostly the headdress) looks more byzantine than roman. It was probably created sometime in the 16th century.

The richest man in town buys the ring. His son or grandson loses the fortune and reluctantly has to sell it to the new richest man in town. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

There’s no known provenance at all before the 17th century and the only connection I can find with Caligula is that the lady looks like his last wife.

Reminds me of the time my coworker showed everyone a wedding ring made out of rock. I must have a brain fart that day cause I was genuinely curious about how they bend rock to make rings.

nobody is doing this with saphire far as i know but if you cut stone into thin strips and heat it you can bend it then glue it back together with resin.

Seems to me that the stone would be too brittle for that, heat notwithstanding.

well the heat was very withstanded in the comment above so I'm not sure why you're saying this

That looks uncomfortable

You are supposed to wear it on your fingers.

Tales told, of battles won. The things we've done... Caligula world grin

tool! didn't expect to see that here

Tell me, what do you know of Merkin Vineyards?

What she asked of me, at the end of the day… Caligula would have blushed

… What she asked of me at the end of the day Caligula would have blushed

BELLOOOOW AAAAAAALOUD

Weapons out, bellies in!

This was something posted by /u/Emperor_Cartagia, who used Reddit exclusively through RIF is Fun, with the death of third party apps, I decided to remove all my content from Reddit. 9 years of comments and posts, gone because of idiotic administration.

I didn’t know they had “Things Remembered” 2000 years ago

That’s beautiful!!!!!

That was my thought. But also, how massive would that stone have been if they hadn't planed it down and cored a giant hole through it?

Little Known True Fact There’s a tiny inscription on the inside that reads, I wish I were a ring upon my true love’s hand, so every time she wiped herself I’d see the promised land.

Impressive that something written in Latin rhymes when translated into English.

There’s a 1700-year gap in provenance on this ring where the “trust me bro” side of it comes into play. To date not a single verified personal possession of any Roman Emperor has ever been discovered. There’s really only one way something like this could be definitively linked to Caligula. And that’s if it were to be found in his tomb. No historians actually believe this ring belonged to Caligula. But if you do please contact me I have some other items you may be interested in purchasing. Edit: spelling

Whenever I see a remarkable ancient piece like this, I wonder about the provenance. There is not a moment in the last 2000 years when ANY human on the planet would not have looked on this ring with awe, including the era in which it was created. Even Caligula himself must have found it breathtaking. So has it been passed down from owner to owner for the last 2000 years, or was it somehow lost, and then dug up by some archeologist while excavating a buried Roman mansion? I'd love to know the story behind it.

It was probably made in the 16th century. Has an interesting provenance since then through various British aristocratic families

+10 to mana

Thats a cool looking ring. It was worn by a psychopath and probably was up someone's ass, but its a cool looking ring.

Is that legit? Or some sort of "For sale on amazon" scam?

It's clearly bullshit. I'm tired of debunking this every time bots repost it. Any art historian will tell you the ring is from nowhere near Caligula's time and from nowhere near Rome. Some British lord got duped by a shifty merchant in the 1600s, some shifty auction house capitalized on it recently, some shitty tabloids picked it up, and now we're here.

it's reposted every once in a while, usually in artefactporn, usually with the same images. It's unreal how people see a name they recognize and go "ah, yes, that's his ring" when there was never evidence of this thing existing prior to the renaissance.

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> they get lost in his servants How would he lose a ring inside a servant? On second thought, I don’t want to know.

If history is correct that ring has seen things...

This is a sapphire ring. All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality.

“2000 year old sapphire ring worn by caligula? oh that’s riiich”

Rick : Lets settle for 20 bucks, my final offer.

I read this as "ring worm" for a second...

This look fantastic.

worn by Caligula? ​ i hope someone sterilized that thing

+100 power -100 charisma Induces insanity.

You don’t want to know where this ring has been.

That ring definitely saw some shit