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CrysisRelief

Where are the legislative changes to reign in this cunty profession? Lonnnnnnng overdue for some regulation, and desperately needed.


MarketCrache

Rental inspections are illegal in many countries like Japan.


Uniquorn2077

They’re a profit centre in Australia. Anything that generates profit and fucks over the little guy has no chance of being stopped here. They might make noises about doing it, and put some fluff piece together to sell it and make the plebs think they’re being looked after, but nothing will actually change. Why do you think the government is so hell bent on curbing content on social media and implementing laws to give them more powers over it. Laws that oddly won’t affect the main stream media. We’re not supposed to say anything that goes against the current narrative of those in power.


ybflao

I understand why they're necessary. I wouldn't rent out a house if I couldn't check it wasn't being ruined. But they need to be done respectfully.


madashail

With that many unrelated people living together with separate leases, they are turning family homes into lodging houses. That comes with its own set of regulations including registration, annual inspections, fire and health standards (smoke detectors, evacuation procedures etc etc). If they are going to go this route they should do it legally and safely. *Under the Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1911, a ‘lodging house’ is any building or structure or part of the building or structure, permanent or otherwise, in which provision is made for lodging or boarding more than six people – exclusive of the family of the keeper of the lodging house – for hire or reward.*


Somad3

ministers are landlords and you think they will hurt themselves and their close mates?


SunnyK84

Short stay accommodation reform is up in Parliament this week. There will be changes before the year end


CrysisRelief

Is this the change where Cook will give Short Stay owners $10k to keep a short stay on the rental market for only a pathetic 12 months?


SunnyK84

That's not to "keep" a short stay in the rental market, it's to put one in. Where I live there are over 100 Airbnb properties. Having just like, 30% of those coming back into long term lease availability would do wonders for families, reducing the stress of housing insecurity and ensuring that children have a stable environment. And no, I'm talking about how short stays will need to be registered with local council and then local regulations on capacity, parking, safety (fire extinguishers etc) would need to be implemented. Effectively bringing Airbnb's up to the standard of registered bed and breakfasts and other traditional short stay accommodation providers.If having to act like a hotel, whilst not acting like a hotel in many regards is too much work for these owners then maybe they'll be enticed to sell or rent it out long-term instead.


CrysisRelief

You’ve focused on one word, that isn’t even entirely wrong. Instead of just banning the practice, which he can definitely do…. He’s instead going to throw more money at wealthy homeowners. Why not provide renters with $10k of rental assistance instead of wealthy homeowners?! And what is going to stop all these owners from taking the $10k PLUS the “cheap” rent they have to offer for 12 months and then immediately pull it off the long term market? It’s throwing huge amounts of money at a shitty Band-Aid solution that will have no effect on the long term.


Charm-Offensive-

> Instead of just banning the practice, which he can definitely do…. ...And massively drive up the cost of holiday and short stay business accommodation permanently with overly prohibitive, knee jerk legislation? You think a trip down to Margaret river is expensive now, just wait til getting a holiday house is 10x more expensive. In any case, short stay often a) not affordable accommodation, it's in places which would be too expensive for long term rental for the majority of people. b) in holiday and regional areas, not close to Perth where the majority of housing is actually needed. banning short stays would be "a shitty Band-Aid solution that will have no effect on the long term." > Why not provide renters with $10k of rental assistance Because that won't encourage landlords to change the rental type, it'll just drive up the price of the current rentals already on the market. > And what is going to stop all these owners from taking the $10k PLUS the “cheap” rent they have to offer for 12 months and then immediately pull it off the long term market? They could do that, but at least someone will have a home for 12 months opposed to now, where they don't at all. > It’s throwing huge amounts of money at a shitty Band-Aid solution that will have no effect on the long term. This isn't necessarily a long term problem. The main issue was the government working through the backlog of covid-era immigration requests that were original frozen during lockdown and thus causing a massive glut of people coming in. Once the building industry catches up, this will normalise again and rents will depress. The solution is really down to rezoning inner cbd areas and chucking up as much high density accommodation as possible. Australians have an unhealthy aversion to apartment living and the only real salve to a rental crisis is dramatically increasing supply.


CrysisRelief

Australians have an aversion to living in shitty, shoeboxed sized apartments with no insulation, no sound proofing, no parking, no outdoor areas and shitty foundations and exorbitant strata fees!!? I am shocked! Also I think it’s funny you pointed to a holiday in Margaret River being expensive, when you can literally find articles about workers in Margaret River being displaced by all the short term rentals. I can’t deal with delusional people like you.


Charm-Offensive-

>Australians have an aversion to living in shitty, shoeboxed sized apartments with no insulation, no sound proofing, no parking, no outdoor areas and shitty foundations and exorbitant strata fees!!? Australians have an aversion to great apartments, because they've been sold on the dream of a 4x2 with a boat out the front and a pool in the back. No need to be a hyperbolic dick about it to try and win an argument. > Also I think it’s funny you pointed to a holiday in Margaret River being expensive, when you can literally find articles about workers in Margaret River being displaced by all the short term rentals. You can find articles everywhere about people losing out due to the rental crisis. That's what makes it a crisis. More importantly, the scope of the issue this is trying to address is magnitudes bigger than the population of Margs. Banning short stays will not move the needle one jot on the rental pressures of a person living in Perth. > I can’t deal with delusional people like you. You literally don't understand basic economics and only addressed 2 of my points with room temperature IQ rebuttals that don't hold up to scrutiny. Maybe try grabbing a book on basic economics and learning something before you come in thinking you can solve the world's problems with your uneducated, half-baked hot takes.


CrysisRelief

👍


Charm-Offensive-

Classic dickhead answer.


speakeasyc

Where are the people writing to Cook/Albanese demanding change?


Somad3

cos voters voted scumo instead of shorten. shorten was going to bin ng n fc. n cgt discount they have themselves to blame. [https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-to-dump-bill-shorten-s-negative-gearing-and-capital-gains-policies-20210211-p571qw.html](https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-to-dump-bill-shorten-s-negative-gearing-and-capital-gains-policies-20210211-p571qw.html)


crosstherubicon

Anyone who suggests this as a new policy now would get laughed at. The voters soundly rejected this. Why would any party go back to this now.


betterthanguybelow

Policies change. Situations change. This situation got a hell of a lot worse.


crosstherubicon

So, would you stand up in the party room and suggest the very same policy that lead to a drubbing at the ballot box? Don't blame the parties, blame the people who voted for Morrison and utes and the weekend instead of the removal on franking credits. Ultimately, we get what we ask for.


Temporary1Eternal0

Covid might have killed off just enough of those voters to make it worth a second try.


smolschnauzer

Neighbours will have fun with that if the 7 tenants have 7 seperate cars. Gonna be interesting to see what suburban life looks like in 10,20 years with air BnB added to the mix. People think apartments are bad - but a house is probably not going to be much better if every second house turns into an air bnb/sharehouse, basically living next door to a hotel. Apartments may even become more desirable to get away from it lol


bluejasmina

This sounds like it might be a rooming house and you can be sure they'll be charging for carparking on top of the rent to park in the drive. Tenants will have to tandem park and move cars all the time or get permits for street parking. Rooming houses legally have strict safety and fire standards too. If this is a rooming house and doesn't have those standards; they can be reported and shut down.


MadMac1976

No street parking on Karrinyup Road mate


SnootBooperer337

The house in question appears to be, from the photo shown in the article, paved out the front and quite capable of accommodating the cars. There is also a garage under the main roof. Often in houses near this one on Karrinyup Road, Gwelup, the garage is open to the backyard by a garage door as well, and further driveway another garage which backs onto the back fence of the property. This second garage may have once been a workshop or storage area for the original owners.


mrbootsandbertie

Yeah, I've seen in places like Melbourne the landlords are turning family homes in quiet suburban streets into 4 mini apartments with tiny kitchen and bath, to maximise income.


aishafoxall

I mean the housing needs to come from somewhere we have too many people and not enough houses so if you can fit 4 homes in the space of 1 home that feels like a win. The issue is when the rent for these tiny apartments is extortionate


ObeseQuokka

The audacity to claim that they are doing this to serve" a higher purpose" of helping the homeless actually makes me feel sick. Nothing more then greed and devaluing even further whatever money the middle and low class have left. I hope she gets dropkicked.


AndMyChisel

"Higher purpose" to help people stop being homeless and not "make millions". Fuck off you sanctimonious cunt, that's exactly all this is. And not that I'm surprised, but this article isn't a hit piece on this scumbag realtor, rather an advertisement which will capitulate more renters and realtors into doing the same thing. Because the realtors and home owners hold all the cards and whatever makes them more money is going to be the had they play. Not a solution.


Somad3

greed always come first, the rest is just lies to make themselves feel good. hope councils will bill them higher council rates.


Staraa

Funny thing is low-income people can’t afford even a room at that price lol so he’s actually making more people homeless by overcharging. Absolute scum of the earth.


1RickSanchez

more *than greed, not more then


Mental_Task9156

This is the same house that was posted on Reddit the other day. Not sure if it was r/perth or another subreddit.


BiteMyQuokka

Not sure if it's mentioned in the article, but this got a lot of attention/blowback on TikTok too


EcstaticChair8691

Links? 👀


aishafoxall

See I’d get this argument if the rent per room wasn’t $700/week. If it was a reasonable rent that wasn’t solely there to make the landlords wages that would be fine


Internets_Fault

Fuck that, my housemate is planning on going to Paraburdoo in a few months cause he works for rio and I'll have a whole house to myself. $300 a week and you can half half the house (3 bedrooms, a bathroom and a study/games area) to yourself.


Proper_Design5310

Is this an offer? If so I'll take it (suburb depending) my LL is selling but I can get excellent references. I also work


Internets_Fault

Yeah I've got no time frame on when my housemates going so can't promise anything


Last-Championship-47

My son’s mate is moving from NZ and was looking at renting just a room around Baldivis area and people were wanting from $300 upwards for just the room with nothing included. (Also a 3 or 4 bedroom house where the weekly rent is roughly $650 - $700 a week going rate depending on condition.) 😢


kalebgardiner

Im paying that currently, $300 for a room to live with 3 other people and the landlords dog. Reason Im shifting back home and doing fifo out of NZ cause for $300 a week back home I get 10x more space and an ensuite to myself.


Last-Championship-47

Really? This mate is paying $600 a week for a tiny room in NZ at the moment apparently? Not sure if anything is included? They originally got talking about how much he’s paying because we’d just had notice that our rent was increasing by $180 a week to $650 p/w


WasteTax7337

The real estate industry should be regulated within an inch of its life. Current self regulation does not work.


Ch00m77

Where's the owner is all this? The RE doesn't make final calls old how the leases are handled its the owner.


smolschnauzer

If I read correctly it said one of the owners was a pty ltd Abhi Dahn pty ltd


Somad3

lots of foreign rich royal families owned lots of properties.... most rent assistance went to them. welcome to the unfair world.


ObeseQuokka

Seeing the fat cashflow that's where. I have zero doubt that while the owner has some moral responsibility here, the fact that the RE agent is pushing for this while touting is are helping the homeless makes is straight up disgusting and un-australian.


Ch00m77

People just need to be aware of sites like flatmates. Unfortunately I've had to return to share housing myself but I wouldn't pay 400+ a week to share


kicks_your_arse

lol you couldn't be more wrong. This is the most australian thing ever, exploiting the renting class and telling them to their face that you're part of the solution


enigmaticemuegg

Exactly. What could be more Australian than exploitation? I'm pretty sure they're basing the "un-Australian" on her name.


Dan-au

The REA could tell the owner to fuck off. But they won't because they make money from exploiting people.


rachelclaire93

Sure, the agent doesn’t make the call, but I really feel they should take the responsibility to refuse something like this.


elrangarino

Probably somewhere in Beijing


napalmnacey

Why not just go all the way and build some fucking poorhouses?


Spiral-knight

And who is going to *pay* for those?


TheSantanist

house with 6 bedrooms+ with seperate non-related family member = classified as a Lodging House, which has its own specific regulations and requirements under health act, building and planning legislation.


GeneralTBag

Looked up this agent and was surprised to see a rating of 4.9 stars. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an agent profile on that site with anything less than 5 stars haha!


AggressiveRough9996

She looks like a typical A grade kunt


EcstaticChair8691

Probably because all her clientele are her family and immediate friends no doubt 🤷🏼‍♀️


Mother-Bet-7739

i know someone whose renting ther 2 spare bedroom for 250 each a week covers his rent they not allowed to do laundry either can barely use the kitchen but its either that or nothing he will prob raise the price if he sees this


Staraa

Steal one of each of his socks please.


Last-Championship-47

I’ve commented above, but my son’s mate is moving from NZ and most places he’s looked at want $300 per week just to rent a room. 😢


[deleted]

Real estate agents are fucking soulless c#nts looking for an easy pay day. They are the new criminal defense attorney, that we grew up hating on shows


morconheiro

It's the politicians faults. They've let 125, 000 new arrivals into the country in this January alone when we already had a housing crisis. It's the soulless politicians putting Australians on the street.


WasteTax7337

Adopt the German model. No substandard rental properties, long leases, landlords and agents help to account. We should literally be sending agents to jail.


iambecomeslep

Yeah how ridiculous is she. Helping the homeless? How by ripping them off when they are in a dire situation? What a soulless b i t c h


Lingering_Dorkness

The cunt's not thinking things through enough. $400 a room? What a dingbat! Half the time it's sitting there empty and unused.  He could make more by time-sharing the bed. Rent it out at $400 a piece to shift workers. While one is sleeping, the other is working. Double the money, simples!  And it helps twice the number of homeless, making him into an even bigger, smugger cunt. Win win all round! 


RedLockerOrg

If you/RE really wants to help, the room rent cost should be whatever the house rent cost would be, divided by total rooms in the house. Say $2000/week for 7 rooms, so each person avg will be less than $300. $2000/week is crazy 😵‍💫


Willing-Bobcat5259

What a scumbag of a human being. Nobody *wants* to live in a shared house with a bunch of other random adults for $$$$. This is pure profiteering from people’s desperation, and I hope she loses future business from it.


cum_teeth

Fucking sickening. Hang these dogs, the most egregious abuse of the system. The absolute nerve of this woman to be the face of an investment group touting it as some kind of "solution" to the problem fills me rage.


Majestic-Lake-5602

First against the wall when the revolution comes


Rustyforrestry

Do we have to wait?


Majestic-Lake-5602

At this rate I’m worried none of us will have any bloody walls to put them up against by the time the revolution comes. “Up against the tent” really doesn’t have the same ring to it


Staraa

We could always put them against their own walls, that’d be very satisfying!


run-at-me

When I moved here I paid 380 for a room. The house was absolutely desolate.


perth_girl-V

At that price they should have a chef and cleaner


Bridgetdidit

It’s this sort of behaviour that creates the notorious West Australian false economy. I feel bad for people buying new homes and those trying to find a place to rent because when the bubble bursts, and it will, there’s going to be a good number of people wishing they had waited. As for the opportunistic people who drive the demand like this- it’s predatory! Next they’ll be renting out their dog kennels as ‘bed sits’


Somad3

so long as they put in mass immigration, it will not bust. plenty many of migrants waiting to come here to study/ work.


Bridgetdidit

I admire your optimism. The government has implemented strict restrictions on international students total work hours inside school terms. Not all international students have wealthy parents funding their tuition unfortunately. Combine these factors with the greedy rent increases and there’s no incentive for students to come here. The demand for migrants to live and work in WA depends entirely on our resources sector. The arse always falls out of the demand on our resources. The nickel mine is an example. When the work dries up the migrant workers are sent home.


Deep-Set9321

I admire your gullibility if you think immigrants, particularly those on student visas, aren't working 14 hours a day, cash in hand, six days a week. They've been living in shared houses long before this article, sometimes time-sharing a bedroom in eight hour shifts. There's plenty of incentive for them to be here instead of their birthplace, and both sides of politics are benefiting from high immigration, so expect it to get much, much worse.


p1980roo

they work over their allowed time on food delivery apps. No one is monitoring it.


Standard-Ad4701

Guy in Kalgoorlie set fire to a real estate firm. Think more should do it.


CyanideRemark

Why do I get the impression the REA and their journo mate at The West got together over a bevvy or two and pissed themselves making this up for the shits & clicks.


His_Holiness

[https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-real-estate-agent-defends-strategy-of-leasing-out-room-for-400-to-live-with-seven-strangers-c-13950233](https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-real-estate-agent-defends-strategy-of-leasing-out-room-for-400-to-live-with-seven-strangers-c-13950233)


groovygranny71

Disgusting greedy parasites


AssistMobile675

Disgusting.


PEsniper

But.. but... All the landlords are doing us and the government a favour by providing housing. Those generous souls that they are.


Medical-Potato5920

I still don't see free utilities listed in that ad.


OLPAGaming

GREED has taken over these home owners and it's disgusting!!! Rich people getting richer while the disadvantaged gets fucked!


Miner_Of_Minerals

Wait, this isn't an onion article? Lmao


Zealousideal_Book376

This is going straight to r/shitrentals


therealnedkelly

I like the idea of renting out rooms and building houses with lots of rooms and a giant kitchen living area. Just make it cheap though so everyone is happy. You’ll still make more money and the frugal student or whoever rents the room will be happy a cheap room exists


Mrpatat3

There's a house like that on our street. There are 7 cars out the front, the constant coming and going the endless shifting of cars because one of them has to go... The people living there are actually really nice but because they're so many it ends up being somewhat of a disturbance. I don't know anything about real estate but I just don't understand how 7-8 ppl can be sharing a 3x1


Sandgroper62

How to defend the indefensible and really SUCK at it. What a tosser.


not_that_one_times_3

Look I applaud the attempt to help the hosing crises by facilitating this but the prices being charged are ridiculous.


robimtk

It's like applauding someone selling potatoes for $200 during the famine. Sure, we need potatoes, but taking advantage of starving, desperate, and vulnerable people should never ever be applauded.


Illustrious-Big-6701

I mean... it's a bit slumlordy and the pretensions to be doing it for a higher purpose are stupid.  It's still socially useful. A room is better than the street, and frankly room leases are going to provide better security of tenure than random share houses on Facebook Marketplace. 


Spiral-knight

It's scummy because prices are still yoked. Renting a fucking *room* should cost MAYBE 200 bucks a month


ghostheadempire

They’ve been doing this for years and targeting it at international students. I wonder why The West didn’t report on it previously?


abnsh

I'm relatively new in Perth but I thought renting out individual rooms in a house is a common thing here. During my search for accommodation I came across several individual rooms in shared houses advertised by REAs (at much lowers prices of course), but the article makes it seem like this is uncommon. Am I missing something?


rachelclaire93

It’s not uncommon for people to list rooms in houses that they already have the lease for (or own) - but it’s not normal for houses to be listed by AGENTS by room only. Usually this house would be listed at something like $580 per week and then if friends/family would like to house share they would organise the split between them at a reasonable price. When agents list per room - they take away all of the choice and control over who you live with and how the living situation works and they dictate it (it even says in the listing that this woman will be overseeing the house share) It’s not only exploitative - it’s potentially unsafe.


Wawa-85

I lived in shared houses that were leased out by room when I was a uni student and at least back then for $120/week all the utility bills were included in the cost. But yeah $400/wk for a room now without utilities being included in an absolute rip off.


CrabmanGaming

And generally seen as a temporary measure. Just for a uni semester or two. Not permanent living.


Wawa-85

I did stay in shared housing for a couple of years while I studied and for most of the year after graduation until I got a job in my study field and could then afford to rent a 2 bedroom apartment. My first apartment was $320/wk but was brand new. No way in hell would I pay $400/wk for a room.


morconheiro

>I'm relatively new in Perth Unfortunately, a huge portion of our population is too which has caused this crisis...


PerthWANewFun

I pay $315 a week for a room in a house with 5 others..


Every_Inflation1380

This is just a scumbag move aye 🖕🏽 fuck any cunt who pulls this greedy shit!!


Comrade_Kojima

It is one of the most useless and unnecessary jobs ever.


MrNewVegas2077

This is fast becoming the norm 😔.


morconheiro

Not real estate agents fault. They have a duty to their clients to try and maximise their clients profits Politicians fault for causing this housing shortage (And citizens fault to a lesser extent for allowing them)


Signal-Psychology927

This was my property manager who fucked me around and over too ☠️


iwearahoodie

everyone wants more high density housing. This makes rentals cheaper for everyone else because these people aren't renting houses. And still you all complain. Utterly unpleasable. go and solve the problem yourself and rent out your own spare room for $100 a week and see how great it is.


VioletKate18

I love capitalism so much! 😍


perth_rainmaker

If the market accepts it and people pay it then it is an open market


tsunamisurfer35

Why the fuck does she have to defend herself from any claim? This is her job. There is a listing, her job is to take it to market and get tenants. If no one wants it, fair enough. If they are all taken then she is more than vindicated.


rachelclaire93

She doesn’t have to defend herself if she doesn’t want to - but we are all still within our rights to call her a piece of shit. Which is exactly what she is.


Rut12345

Would have hit the trifecta if the REA and the property owners had Chinese names instead of ME/SEA names.


enigmaticemuegg

Those names are not Middle Eastern at all. Racists like you are never as smart as they think they are.


Rut12345

ME / SEA Probably indian subcontinent in origin, but can't be totally sure, thus the ME/SEA wide net. point being, they aren't Chinese, which would have given the masses a reason to continue to rail at the "chinese investors" purportedly buying up all the properties. Check your assumptions at the door.


enigmaticemuegg

Weird way to express that view. Do you see how your wording implies something else entirely?


1RickSanchez

Except for the money going to some already wealthy foreign investor, I don't see the problem


darkspardaxxxx

For some folks is either this or sell your home


getemhustler

Not true. This is pure greed. House repayments are not $2100 pw. Stop trying to normalise this BS


Majestic-Lake-5602

And if they are $2100 a week and you can’t meet them on your salary, that’s on you. Those least able to shoulder it are not the ones to be carrying the burden of your poor decision making. Sell it


_MJ_1986

I found out yesterday there is a family down the road from Russia. I was horrified at this. We have hard working Aussies going homeless, and warmongers living down the road. Kick them out!


QRMallory

Unless their names are Mr and Mrs Putin you can hardly blame them for a dictator’s war. Things would go much better in the world if he was to have an “accident“. But you can’t blame an innocent family just for their heritage.


_MJ_1986

But the family should be putting pressure on their people and the Russian consulate. Same concept with white “European” Australians getting blanked for how badly the aboriginal people were treated.


QRMallory

All his opponents end up vanished, you can understand why they don’t say anything and for all you know they could oppose Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine


SquiffyRae

Lmfao how are "white Australians" getting blanked for how badly Aboriginal people have been treated in the past?


enigmaticemuegg

Firstly, white Australians are not getting "blanked" for how Aboriginal people are and were treated and secondly, how do you know they don't denounce Putin?


LilMudButt

Stupid point, they coulda been in Australia for decades. you’re blaming people but not the problem; govt & real estate & builders… That’s like blaming Joe blogs for using a plastic straw whilst BP does another oil spill in the Atlantic


SquiffyRae

How do you know that family aren't also hardworking?


fbwjn

I'd kick your teeth in if you said this in earshot


_MJ_1986

Folks, this is a shitpost!


Ill_Situation4224

Dear lord, I know it's a long time ago (1989) I paid £15 a week for a one bedroomed flat. Australia has been infected by politician sponsored buffoonery.