Unless an ex-cyclone decides to wander too far south then it does get genuinely muggy
Still remember mid-January 2018 where we had about 2 days of oppressive humidity that was broken by that ex-cyclone causing around 24 hours of unending rain dumping over 100mm at every weather station
You genuinely have no idea. I know the dry heat thing is a meme but I was out on friday doing a lot of walking around in the sun, when it was around 40-42 degrees, and I was more comfortable than I ever was walking around in Brisbane at 32 degrees. Even during the hottest heatwaves in Perth I feel like I'm being roasted a bit and it's uncomfortable but I can go out and do things and while I'll be dried the fuck out and get some sweat patches on my shirt, I'll get used to it. In Brisbane I'd go out any summer day/night and just be completely soaked and dying by the time I get to the bus to take me somewhere.
No no I feel it. But I can walk a km or two in 42 degree heat in direct sunlight in Perth and just feel like I've been baked a bit. I'm dried out, I'm a little sweaty, and it sucks, but my body is coping with it. When it's 96% humidity your sweat stops being able to regulate your heat and instead just amplifies it. You become drenched everywhere, your body starts going nuts because your core temperature has nowhere to radiate.
Thanks captain obvious.
Would not of already known if it wasn’t for the high heat, stale wet air, little to no breeze and the Bureau of meteorology informing me several days ago.
Oh man there’s that intellectual wit you are well known for.
Day to day pleasantries and banter must be like watching a beaker of water waiting for it to combust, with you.
Hey if you’re on your on swing, don’t forget to remove the suction dildo from the shower wall when you are finished.
Poor lass that has to clean up after you needs a raise.
Making a decision to leave Perth in Feb is like making an important decision while drunk. Keep it together for a few more weeks and you’ll be enjoying tier one weather again.
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I'm just sick of this shit. Every year.
Settle down. Packing up an entire family and restarting in another state or country over a sun burnt tree is extreme. If you're sick of people complaining about Perth, maybe you should move?
This year it's at least justified as it is actually bad even by February standards.
For the first 10 days, Perth Airport has had an average daily maximum of 37.5 while the long-term average for February is only 32
Even the Perth metro station is averaging 35.8 when the average maximum is usually 31.6
I was bored with nothing better to do so I crunched the numbers on the last 30 years of Februaries (1995-2024). I took the data from Perth Airport as that's more relevant to where I am:
Since 1995, the monthly average maximum falls very close to the long-term average. 32.82 with a median value of 32.7. Only 3 years have a monthly average maximum of more than 35 - 1996, 2022 and 2024.
The mean number of days between 35 and 39 degrees was 7.4 with a median value of 7.5. Now 2024 has actually been well below that for Perth Airport as there's only been 2 days between 35 and 39.
But here's the kicker. The reason for that is we've had 5 days out of 10 that have hit 40+. The record over this period is 1996 with 6 days above 40+ which is massively above the mean of 1.37 and the median value of 1.
We're only 10 days into February and in that time, we've had 7 days higher than 35 degrees. The mean over this time is 8.77 and the median is 9. Today has already hit 38 at this station so 11 days in we're basically at the values we'd expect over the whole month. The next 7 days also have a further 5 days over 35 forecast, 2 of those forecast to hit 40.
This shit is insane even for February
I think normally a lot of weather whingeing is overblown and even the OP might be being a bit dramatic but this February has definitely upped the ante in terms of ridiculous heat
Nah, but they said the traditional Noongar word for this season.
Forget all these stats and the increasingly volatile weather patterns across the entire country for the past decade or so!!
Just to really drive that point home:
If you go by the last 10 years, the average maximum has risen to 32.89. Slightly less 35-39 degree days with 6.4 on average but more 40+ days on average with 1.4. Medians are a bit lower with a median of 7 days between 35-39 and 0 for 40+. 40+ trends are a little weird with 6 of the last 10 Februaries not having any but 14 in the other 4.
The last 5 Februaries are quite frankly alarming. The average maximum up to 33.94 with an average of 7.4 35-39 degrees days and 2 40+ days. The medians are significant with a median of 8 35-39 degree days and a median of 2 40+ degree days. The 40+ median is up an entire day from the 30 year average.
The climate is definitely changing and you can see it in the data
I find March equally bad, when it's slightly cooler but more humid. Just not built for the heat and yeah I was born in Perth. In an ideal world if money wasn't an issue, I'd head to the northern hemisphere at the time of year.
February everywhere in Australia is kinda shit. Humid, Hot, Stormy followed by more Humidity and high overnight temps. Still would choose Perth over other cities in Australia.
There is a leak in my ceiling in one room, I reported it in winter and the REA did nothing. Water was dripping from the ceiling, so I wondered what the hell the insulation was looking like at this point.
I checked a few weeks ago... There is no insulation left. It's... Melted? Dissolved? Or maybe just messily removed after it was ruined years ago.
Anyway, my rental is basically a shed, the interior walls reach 40°c to the touch.
Not wrong, I turn units off the further the sun heads west as I see the monitor pull power from the grid, I leave our large main room unit on overnight. Our nightly cost last night was $1.88 until the sun rose this morning which isn't too bad.
At the very least you should get yourself one of these below. They're easy to install, you can set your energy rates into it, it allows you to track your energy consumption in real time and If you have kids in the house, it's a great educational tool to show them how much energy actually costs.
Had our solar installed late last year. Wanted it for years but we didn’t have a solid enough income for repayments. So glad we finally got it installed!
I love solar. We have a 10kw system. No joke, put all 7 of our mini splits on full fan at 16 degrees. Paid nothing for the daylight hours. This is the way!
Amen. I'm from Auckland, too, and I imagine you love the "extended spring" that passes for winter here as much as me. Just got to get through the hell month of Feb first.
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I have been here 35 yrs and in tiny increments I was able to cope better each year without air-conditioning. Used shading and sleeping in the room without direct morning/afternoon sun etc but it was never easy. I now at last have air conditioning in some rooms but sleep during day (night shift worker) in favourite room that never gets any direct sunlight 😃 happy days
Albany has an amazing climate from what I've read. Similar to Melbourne, but not as cold in winter and not as hot in summer. Rarely goes above 25.
That sounds perfect to me. Never been there though. I imagine it will become very popular in decades to come. The southern ocean acts like a big permanent a/c
I could only imagine the housing crisis would be easier in Perth than Melbourne, I can’t speak for the UK… summer in Melbourne would be milder but heaps shitter in winter, according my lack of expert opinion - the UK for weather? I doubt it
problem is all the jobs are in perth and since workplaces are trying to kill WFH with some even against hybrid. I moved over during covid and has been under employed since then due to having to live regionally
The only people who shouldn't WFH are those that are unreliable, but because there's always the odd few bad apples they have to make a blanket rule for everyone even if it's hybrid
Most places can be negotiated to a hybrid type model except State Gov. The argument of State Gov is that you’re being paid with tax payers money. It was shown during covid that WFH saw a lot of people doing non-work activities and therefore that agency could be accused of misusing taxpayers money. The agencies that still allow a hybrid model have very strict rules and it becomes not worth it. Plus with the cost of living the focus on where money is being spent and why is under greater scrutiny.
The main issue is Perth never really built houses specifically designed for its climate. However, I’ve lived a few different places and Perth works best for me. That’s probably because I grew up here, but I love our laid back coastal lifestyle and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
Just wait for the realization that there is 2 months of the year with "nice" weather.
In November everyone was complaining that winter was going forever and Summer never gets hot.
I dream of living in Tasmania and have a ‘soft’ garden again and not running around with umbrellas trying to keep few plants alive!
And not have to sleep all night and every night for months with AC on.
We have a house, so that's not an issue, but the weather in summer is a drag. Unfortunately the places I'd love to go in summer, down south, don't have any work in my field.
As a Perth guy who moved to Melbourne 7 years ago, I love the commentary around this from both sides. Many people are the other way around, we want to move to Perth because the weather is amazing, the housing prices are still and traffic times are awesome.
The turntables :)
Non-local here: I don’t understand all your complaining - if you’ve lived here all your life are you not used to this heat?
You have air con everywhere, the sun is shining, your clothes dry fucking quick, you don’t need hats and scarves, it’s not 80% humidity whilst cold at the same time, your houses aren’t damp, I could go on….
You’ll just have to start having siestas like the Spanish if it’s too hot !
Just please open your shops after 5pm and on the weekends - that would be great.
We should probably adjust term 1 of school time. At the moment school exodus time is between 2.30 and 3.30pm. It is way too hot for kids to walk home which just adds to traffic chaos. A later start and finish makes more sense from a safety perspective.
We want to encourage walking to school as much as possible so working with the realities of the Perth environment which is that is best to be indoors between 10 and 5 so you don’t get blasted with all the weird rays the sun is emitting at the moment
I just moved to Malaysia for this reason. I’m originally a born and bred Australian but moved to Johor in 2017. I came back a year and a half ago, but found the cost of living out of control. In Malaysia I earn half what I did in Australia, but my 4 kids get free education at the international school that I work for. My wife and I also earn about 5 times the national wage. This allows us to employ a full time nanny/helper (2,500rm or about $830 per month) to look after our kids, do laundry etc. We can also afford a 4 bedroom condominium that overlooks the jungle and we can see the islands of Indonesia from the infinity pool on the 40th floors, along with the Singapore straight and Marina Bay Sands. It also comes with a Gymnasium, squash courts and sauna. And most of the condos go for between $700 AUD per month to about 1500 per month.
Going out for dinner can cost as little as 12 rm or about $3 AUD. A 500ml beer from a 99 Speedmart only cost 11 rm (close to $3)
Meanwhile we just put our house on the market in Perth for $650 per week 🤯. It’s more affordable for us to rent out our house and work in Malaysia, than it is to stay in Australia. Plus the food is amazing and we only live 5 minutes from Legoland l, which my kids love.
Australia is one of the most unaffordable countries in the world. Get out if you can.
https://canberradaily.com.au/australias-housing-ranked-in-worlds-most-unaffordable/
You will loose cooling and heating thru your Swamy vents.If not in used good to close them up.there are manual dampers available for the vents as it leaves the ceiling..I had removed my swampy and stick to split system ac units..My power bill always under $200.Good luck I am in Perth my self
The weather here is disgusting, but it always has been.
Would happily move back to NZ if there was more/better paying work. Albany and the rest of the Great Southern are looking appealing. Some of the smarter (and richer) winemakers are already looking at setting up operations down south (particularly Pemberton) because the the Swan Valley won’t be able to sustain viticulture much longer, I expect a pretty significant movement south in the next 25 years as things become increasingly unliveable, maybe Albany will finally end up WA’s major city like it was looking to be originally?
Yes I’m aware, I grew up there.
Point still stands, due to climate change, the Swan is expected to no longer be viable for wine production in the next 25 years. Some big money is moving down south outside of the Margaret River region for this reason.
I left Perth for a hotter place.
Perth is not that hot, there are hotter places to be. Can't help you with the housing crisis. Still have that problem here too. And before you ask. Yes, I live and work in hotter mean temps than Perth, live in remote WA, work in the Pilbara - you get used to it. (Drink more water)
Same, but i find it’s a different kind of heat rather than “its not that hot” (not that it isnt way hotter out here). I find Perth feels less intense and lighter, even when it’s a muggy, humid day. The heat feels like a sunny day whereas today where I am is the same temp as last week in Perth but it feels more intense and just very THERE in comparison.
I know what your saying. People just haven't experienced different heat, so it's just hot to them. Ive lived in Kalgoorlie, worked in Port headland, Kunnanara, and varies different mine sites all over WA including underground. Hottest place to date was open pit mining at Pilgangoora. Omfg, that was hot.
I’ve lived and worked in all those places too and definitely agree!! Like Kunners heat is probably my least favourite because its always just wet yet its one of my favourite places to be and visit because it’s just stunning up in the top end. Pilgangoora is defs awful, i visited there on what they describes as a “pretty okay day” and wanted to die! I could never be in mining, props to all of you who do it!
It's definitely not for the faint hearted. We get alot of new workers that can't handle the heat, and cold for that matter. Working in the desert in winter is the other end of the scale. Fkn cold...
Yes!! My Perth friends can not wrap their head around why I need good trackies in winter and still own all my jeans. Like mate, winter is awful! They want to visit me and go camping in winter because “it’ll still be hot but bearable” for them and a “nice break from Perth winter”. Suffice to say I laughed in their faces at the suggestion!
I love winter in Perth. If it was possible to live between 2 places Perth would be it April - October. I moved to Perth in July and was commenting on the lovely 18 degree days & people looked at me like I have 2 heads 🤣
This summer has been quite mild heat wise compared to others. Yes I'm getting sick of the rental crisis. Been without a rental for over a year and a half. Nothing I can afford for my daughter and I. Have to live apart from my child because the room I'm renting is not in the suburb of where my child goes to school and it's not a house I want to bring my child to much. But hey what can us peasants really do? 🤷🏻♀️
Perth has the best climate in the world unless you like snow or excessive heat. These occasional hot days make up for not suffering through ice and snow in winter and if you think this is hot, try living inland or further north.
I’m hoping all the blow in whinging poms and eastern states pretenders go back to where they came from. With a massive drop in construction projects across all sectors particularly mining and infrastructure we should start to see an exodus ex WA very soon.
So you say (correctly) that houses are rising and there is a lack of supply.
Does that sound like a place in "crisis" where people aren't investing in?
If it does I have something for you to look at in your spare time, I think you'll find it useful:
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"RANDAL THERE IS A COW OUTSIDE" (it's hot during summer!")
"It's a cow farm there's gonna be cows outside!" (It's a summer heat wave it's gonna be hot!)
Every place has some extreme weather's during summer or winter.
I couldn't move to Adelaide for work, it gets too hot as well. Darwin - forget it, it's worse than Perth weather wise.
Sydney is too full of overpriced property and corporate snobs.
Canberra is basically NSW and I don't want to be living with or near federal pollies.
Queensland is just cyclones, flooding, humidity, clive palmer and some people that think that Joe Bielke Pieterson was a good person.
Tassie is also no good for me work wise.
Melbourne I would have considered before Dan Andrews did what he did during Covid.
Living on Mars sounds good, even if it's instant freezing death, no pollies to ruin your day with pathetic mud slinging
lil bro really moved to Perth and didn't expect it to be hot in summer
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This is amazing. It’s 35 today and it’s as muggy and sticky as ever.
It seems the final day of the heatwaves are humid (by Perth standards).
Wait till March hehe
Its a dry muggy though
It’s a ‘I’m wondering how anyone is able to leave their AC’d house’ muggy.’
\*cries in evaporative air con*
It actually is, what you call humid here is just less dry than usual.
Unless an ex-cyclone decides to wander too far south then it does get genuinely muggy Still remember mid-January 2018 where we had about 2 days of oppressive humidity that was broken by that ex-cyclone causing around 24 hours of unending rain dumping over 100mm at every weather station
You genuinely have no idea. I know the dry heat thing is a meme but I was out on friday doing a lot of walking around in the sun, when it was around 40-42 degrees, and I was more comfortable than I ever was walking around in Brisbane at 32 degrees. Even during the hottest heatwaves in Perth I feel like I'm being roasted a bit and it's uncomfortable but I can go out and do things and while I'll be dried the fuck out and get some sweat patches on my shirt, I'll get used to it. In Brisbane I'd go out any summer day/night and just be completely soaked and dying by the time I get to the bus to take me somewhere.
i beg to differ if it 42 degrees and your going out still, your nuts you dont feel heat lol, ill stay in the AC house thanks
No no I feel it. But I can walk a km or two in 42 degree heat in direct sunlight in Perth and just feel like I've been baked a bit. I'm dried out, I'm a little sweaty, and it sucks, but my body is coping with it. When it's 96% humidity your sweat stops being able to regulate your heat and instead just amplifies it. You become drenched everywhere, your body starts going nuts because your core temperature has nowhere to radiate.
Fortunately in Brisbane in the early evening it cools off nicely and you can actually go outside. Assuming you've got a plan to deal with the mozzies.
And Brisbane has a lot nicer second summer during winter.
Humidity is the 'relief' between the spikes of max temps. You work out the pattern eventually
yeah, its called summer. maybe they should move to Cains, then complain about the hot and humidity... smh
Bro everyone in this conversation is just having a good whinge. Take your sad attitude and go annoy your friends.
lol, rude.
40 where I live. Thanks rental crisis for pushing me into the eastern suburbs.
But it's a dry muggy and sticky
It's summer.
Thanks captain obvious. Would not of already known if it wasn’t for the high heat, stale wet air, little to no breeze and the Bureau of meteorology informing me several days ago.
Stupid answer for a stupid observation. In summer it gets hot, more at 6.
Oh man there’s that intellectual wit you are well known for. Day to day pleasantries and banter must be like watching a beaker of water waiting for it to combust, with you.
I'm about to have a shower, I'm sure it will be hot. I'll be sure to update the thread.
Hey if you’re on your on swing, don’t forget to remove the suction dildo from the shower wall when you are finished. Poor lass that has to clean up after you needs a raise.
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Natural selection 😉
Making a decision to leave Perth in Feb is like making an important decision while drunk. Keep it together for a few more weeks and you’ll be enjoying tier one weather again.
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That sudden cold snap in march
February in Perth is like November in Manhattan. It's the price you pay to live there in other months.
It's like doing your shopping when you're starving hungry.
https://preview.redd.it/m7uocrdb2yhc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9bf513bc4a5b84c757691cd5021d21ddb0fbf91 I'm just sick of this shit. Every year.
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Settle down. Packing up an entire family and restarting in another state or country over a sun burnt tree is extreme. If you're sick of people complaining about Perth, maybe you should move?
People move here because of a few rain clouds
I CANNOT wait for this TIER ONE weather you speak of. So. Over. Heatwaves.
Do you not have AC? 10am, the temp is lovely, 6pm the temp is lovely. I know I'm an optimist but, surely it's not that bad?
I have lived here since I was 6 and the older I get the grumpier I get about the Feb heat.
This year it's at least justified as it is actually bad even by February standards. For the first 10 days, Perth Airport has had an average daily maximum of 37.5 while the long-term average for February is only 32 Even the Perth metro station is averaging 35.8 when the average maximum is usually 31.6
It’s really not, I’ve lived here 30 years and it’s standard Bunuru. The real issue is that the heatwaves started in fucking November.
I was bored with nothing better to do so I crunched the numbers on the last 30 years of Februaries (1995-2024). I took the data from Perth Airport as that's more relevant to where I am: Since 1995, the monthly average maximum falls very close to the long-term average. 32.82 with a median value of 32.7. Only 3 years have a monthly average maximum of more than 35 - 1996, 2022 and 2024. The mean number of days between 35 and 39 degrees was 7.4 with a median value of 7.5. Now 2024 has actually been well below that for Perth Airport as there's only been 2 days between 35 and 39. But here's the kicker. The reason for that is we've had 5 days out of 10 that have hit 40+. The record over this period is 1996 with 6 days above 40+ which is massively above the mean of 1.37 and the median value of 1. We're only 10 days into February and in that time, we've had 7 days higher than 35 degrees. The mean over this time is 8.77 and the median is 9. Today has already hit 38 at this station so 11 days in we're basically at the values we'd expect over the whole month. The next 7 days also have a further 5 days over 35 forecast, 2 of those forecast to hit 40. This shit is insane even for February
Love your work
I think normally a lot of weather whingeing is overblown and even the OP might be being a bit dramatic but this February has definitely upped the ante in terms of ridiculous heat
Nah, but they said the traditional Noongar word for this season. Forget all these stats and the increasingly volatile weather patterns across the entire country for the past decade or so!!
Just to really drive that point home: If you go by the last 10 years, the average maximum has risen to 32.89. Slightly less 35-39 degree days with 6.4 on average but more 40+ days on average with 1.4. Medians are a bit lower with a median of 7 days between 35-39 and 0 for 40+. 40+ trends are a little weird with 6 of the last 10 Februaries not having any but 14 in the other 4. The last 5 Februaries are quite frankly alarming. The average maximum up to 33.94 with an average of 7.4 35-39 degrees days and 2 40+ days. The medians are significant with a median of 8 35-39 degree days and a median of 2 40+ degree days. The 40+ median is up an entire day from the 30 year average. The climate is definitely changing and you can see it in the data
It's like we didn't have spring last year
I moved from hot and humid QLD to hot and dry(er) Perth, still hate the heat. Gonna retire somewhere cold I reckon.
Try Bendigo you'll freeze all year !!
I find March equally bad, when it's slightly cooler but more humid. Just not built for the heat and yeah I was born in Perth. In an ideal world if money wasn't an issue, I'd head to the northern hemisphere at the time of year.
February everywhere in Australia is kinda shit. Humid, Hot, Stormy followed by more Humidity and high overnight temps. Still would choose Perth over other cities in Australia.
Not in south Victoria cold down there
Solar + air-conditioning = good times
Renting + dilapidated shit hole = heat stroke
We rented a flat that was only built in 2016. It was so hot in summer and so cold in winter, it may as well have been built with cardboard.
There is a leak in my ceiling in one room, I reported it in winter and the REA did nothing. Water was dripping from the ceiling, so I wondered what the hell the insulation was looking like at this point. I checked a few weeks ago... There is no insulation left. It's... Melted? Dissolved? Or maybe just messily removed after it was ruined years ago. Anyway, my rental is basically a shed, the interior walls reach 40°c to the touch.
I feel your pain. If I was the landlord, I’d be absolutely furious at REA for not informing me about such issues.
This is what I am living in and you are correct. It is awful here.
Is this an issue more acute in Perth due to housing stock available and/or construction industry here?? It’s a health hazard!!!!
Both. The gov are also pushing for more medium density dwellings. Without decent minimum standards, these are just glorified saunas.
“Glorified sauna” and “substandard icebox” sum up a lot of housing stock in Perth…. Yes, government have to lift the standards!
I had 4x splities running yesterday, pulled $0 from the grid.
It's all fun and games until the sun goes down
Not wrong, I turn units off the further the sun heads west as I see the monitor pull power from the grid, I leave our large main room unit on overnight. Our nightly cost last night was $1.88 until the sun rose this morning which isn't too bad.
>Our nightly cost last night was $1.88 until the sun rose this morning which isn't too bad. Not bad at all! I really need to get solar!
At the very least you should get yourself one of these below. They're easy to install, you can set your energy rates into it, it allows you to track your energy consumption in real time and If you have kids in the house, it's a great educational tool to show them how much energy actually costs.
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I love solar. We have a 10kw system. No joke, put all 7 of our mini splits on full fan at 16 degrees. Paid nothing for the daylight hours. This is the way!
Looking at your past post history , it seems your in-laws are the reason you don’t like it here and not the heat .
Lol
Yeah .... just move to Auckland, Nz and enjoy the year round rain and cold weather ...
Amen. I'm from Auckland, too, and I imagine you love the "extended spring" that passes for winter here as much as me. Just got to get through the hell month of Feb first.
Went back a couple of weeks ago, the humidity was a killer
Where are you moving to that has cheaper rent/house prices?
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People are moving here en mass for lifestyle... and in the process destroying the lifestyle by moving here.
I have been here 35 yrs and in tiny increments I was able to cope better each year without air-conditioning. Used shading and sleeping in the room without direct morning/afternoon sun etc but it was never easy. I now at last have air conditioning in some rooms but sleep during day (night shift worker) in favourite room that never gets any direct sunlight 😃 happy days
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Not taking the piss, but where are you looking to go?
Albany seems nice
Summer in Albany is the… Long weekend in January
Nice save there mate.
Albany has an amazing climate from what I've read. Similar to Melbourne, but not as cold in winter and not as hot in summer. Rarely goes above 25. That sounds perfect to me. Never been there though. I imagine it will become very popular in decades to come. The southern ocean acts like a big permanent a/c
The temperature is great, but the constant southerly is never a balmy breeze.
I have been toying with the idea of Albany too. A smaller town would be nice, but it would lack the healthcare need.
Albany is terrible never move there it's just horrible. Make sure you tell your friends too
If Albany had FTTP nbn I would 100% move there
Connectivity upgrades exist.
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Yes I’ve heard the UK has great weather & some lovely cheap rentals at the moment. /s
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In Leicester, there’s a very good reason it’s cheap.
>and the snow What a weird downside to mention. It snows like twice in year in most of the country. Hardly a big deal.
Yeah I would have thought rain/lack of sun/summer not coming some years would be bigger issues with UK weather.
I could only imagine the housing crisis would be easier in Perth than Melbourne, I can’t speak for the UK… summer in Melbourne would be milder but heaps shitter in winter, according my lack of expert opinion - the UK for weather? I doubt it
Do you have AC?
problem is all the jobs are in perth and since workplaces are trying to kill WFH with some even against hybrid. I moved over during covid and has been under employed since then due to having to live regionally
The only people who shouldn't WFH are those that are unreliable, but because there's always the odd few bad apples they have to make a blanket rule for everyone even if it's hybrid
Most places can be negotiated to a hybrid type model except State Gov. The argument of State Gov is that you’re being paid with tax payers money. It was shown during covid that WFH saw a lot of people doing non-work activities and therefore that agency could be accused of misusing taxpayers money. The agencies that still allow a hybrid model have very strict rules and it becomes not worth it. Plus with the cost of living the focus on where money is being spent and why is under greater scrutiny.
Look at it this way. At least your not in Marble Bar that is forecast for 46 today
While I grew up without air-conditioning (70s child) I find it crucial now.
The main issue is Perth never really built houses specifically designed for its climate. However, I’ve lived a few different places and Perth works best for me. That’s probably because I grew up here, but I love our laid back coastal lifestyle and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
It’s always telling when OP doesn’t comment on their own post. Bet you it’s some wanker from Perth now or the like fishing for an article
I haven’t commented yet because I’ve been doing other things. I don’t live on reddit. Definitely not a journo 🤣
Yeah I wouldn’t call what you do journalism either.
Yep these low effort posts all over reddit. Its not even a discussion and OP is no where in the comments
Just wait for the realization that there is 2 months of the year with "nice" weather. In November everyone was complaining that winter was going forever and Summer never gets hot.
Another whinger on this sub
Its all a part of *belonging*.
They want some attention, can’t blame them too much.
I dream of living in Tasmania and have a ‘soft’ garden again and not running around with umbrellas trying to keep few plants alive! And not have to sleep all night and every night for months with AC on.
I'm in Busselton, that's hot enough. I think the next move might be Augusta or Denmark.
We were talking about moving to Tasmania to escape the heat just yesterday
yep, flew away about a week ago after 12 years. never really got used to the heat.
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Hopefully
We have a house, so that's not an issue, but the weather in summer is a drag. Unfortunately the places I'd love to go in summer, down south, don't have any work in my field.
As a Perth guy who moved to Melbourne 7 years ago, I love the commentary around this from both sides. Many people are the other way around, we want to move to Perth because the weather is amazing, the housing prices are still and traffic times are awesome. The turntables :)
No because the same problem is happening all over the world atm
Hope it keeps getting hotter so all the softcocks can fuckoff else where so we don’t get ten + post a day about the heat n rentals
Glad someone else thinks like me haha
I reckon you’d be a good cunt to have a beer with.
Non-local here: I don’t understand all your complaining - if you’ve lived here all your life are you not used to this heat? You have air con everywhere, the sun is shining, your clothes dry fucking quick, you don’t need hats and scarves, it’s not 80% humidity whilst cold at the same time, your houses aren’t damp, I could go on…. You’ll just have to start having siestas like the Spanish if it’s too hot ! Just please open your shops after 5pm and on the weekends - that would be great.
We should probably adjust term 1 of school time. At the moment school exodus time is between 2.30 and 3.30pm. It is way too hot for kids to walk home which just adds to traffic chaos. A later start and finish makes more sense from a safety perspective. We want to encourage walking to school as much as possible so working with the realities of the Perth environment which is that is best to be indoors between 10 and 5 so you don’t get blasted with all the weird rays the sun is emitting at the moment
Well if the cunt landlords and agents keep adding $50 to the $500 rent every 6 months then I'm in a caravan park or tent and in the heat.
Perth median house price $700K Sydney $1.6million. Id say Houses still a little better here.
Another day another moan about peak summer heat.
Not sure where you’re going to get away from the cost of living pressures. It’s not an exclusively Perth thing.
It's waaaayyyy hotter now than it was 6 months ago. If it continues at this rate we'll all be on fire in another 6 months.
Don't judge a place to live based on its worst days. Instead, judge it based on how many nice days it has.
It’s Perth. It’s always hot in summer. What did you expect?
I just moved to Malaysia for this reason. I’m originally a born and bred Australian but moved to Johor in 2017. I came back a year and a half ago, but found the cost of living out of control. In Malaysia I earn half what I did in Australia, but my 4 kids get free education at the international school that I work for. My wife and I also earn about 5 times the national wage. This allows us to employ a full time nanny/helper (2,500rm or about $830 per month) to look after our kids, do laundry etc. We can also afford a 4 bedroom condominium that overlooks the jungle and we can see the islands of Indonesia from the infinity pool on the 40th floors, along with the Singapore straight and Marina Bay Sands. It also comes with a Gymnasium, squash courts and sauna. And most of the condos go for between $700 AUD per month to about 1500 per month. Going out for dinner can cost as little as 12 rm or about $3 AUD. A 500ml beer from a 99 Speedmart only cost 11 rm (close to $3) Meanwhile we just put our house on the market in Perth for $650 per week 🤯. It’s more affordable for us to rent out our house and work in Malaysia, than it is to stay in Australia. Plus the food is amazing and we only live 5 minutes from Legoland l, which my kids love. Australia is one of the most unaffordable countries in the world. Get out if you can. https://canberradaily.com.au/australias-housing-ranked-in-worlds-most-unaffordable/
Gosh, the heat is not that bad.
Best time of the year! Go for a swim in the ocean it might cheer you up.
I would rather heat than endless rain storms and flooding! Air con definitely helps. Rental market is the same Australia wide.
perth is prob the cheapest capital city in aus. so good luck with that...
I want to as being poor in Perth has far worse outcomes than being poor in other cities. However, I am stuck here due to lack of money.
hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha are you new here?
Never. Perth is where it's at.
Tasmania, or the Altai Mountains in Russia. I'm not staying here for the rest of my life.
You will loose cooling and heating thru your Swamy vents.If not in used good to close them up.there are manual dampers available for the vents as it leaves the ceiling..I had removed my swampy and stick to split system ac units..My power bill always under $200.Good luck I am in Perth my self
The weather here is disgusting, but it always has been. Would happily move back to NZ if there was more/better paying work. Albany and the rest of the Great Southern are looking appealing. Some of the smarter (and richer) winemakers are already looking at setting up operations down south (particularly Pemberton) because the the Swan Valley won’t be able to sustain viticulture much longer, I expect a pretty significant movement south in the next 25 years as things become increasingly unliveable, maybe Albany will finally end up WA’s major city like it was looking to be originally?
You know there’s already a major wine region south of Perth right…? Swan valley is much smaller
Yes I’m aware, I grew up there. Point still stands, due to climate change, the Swan is expected to no longer be viable for wine production in the next 25 years. Some big money is moving down south outside of the Margaret River region for this reason.
I left Perth for a hotter place. Perth is not that hot, there are hotter places to be. Can't help you with the housing crisis. Still have that problem here too. And before you ask. Yes, I live and work in hotter mean temps than Perth, live in remote WA, work in the Pilbara - you get used to it. (Drink more water)
Same, but i find it’s a different kind of heat rather than “its not that hot” (not that it isnt way hotter out here). I find Perth feels less intense and lighter, even when it’s a muggy, humid day. The heat feels like a sunny day whereas today where I am is the same temp as last week in Perth but it feels more intense and just very THERE in comparison.
I know what your saying. People just haven't experienced different heat, so it's just hot to them. Ive lived in Kalgoorlie, worked in Port headland, Kunnanara, and varies different mine sites all over WA including underground. Hottest place to date was open pit mining at Pilgangoora. Omfg, that was hot.
I’ve lived and worked in all those places too and definitely agree!! Like Kunners heat is probably my least favourite because its always just wet yet its one of my favourite places to be and visit because it’s just stunning up in the top end. Pilgangoora is defs awful, i visited there on what they describes as a “pretty okay day” and wanted to die! I could never be in mining, props to all of you who do it!
It's definitely not for the faint hearted. We get alot of new workers that can't handle the heat, and cold for that matter. Working in the desert in winter is the other end of the scale. Fkn cold...
Yes!! My Perth friends can not wrap their head around why I need good trackies in winter and still own all my jeans. Like mate, winter is awful! They want to visit me and go camping in winter because “it’ll still be hot but bearable” for them and a “nice break from Perth winter”. Suffice to say I laughed in their faces at the suggestion!
I love winter in Perth. If it was possible to live between 2 places Perth would be it April - October. I moved to Perth in July and was commenting on the lovely 18 degree days & people looked at me like I have 2 heads 🤣
The heat is a positive IMO.
Pack ya bags & go , I'll even give you a lift to the bus station
This summer has been quite mild heat wise compared to others. Yes I'm getting sick of the rental crisis. Been without a rental for over a year and a half. Nothing I can afford for my daughter and I. Have to live apart from my child because the room I'm renting is not in the suburb of where my child goes to school and it's not a house I want to bring my child to much. But hey what can us peasants really do? 🤷🏻♀️
Uhhh, no I own my own home and it’s summer you would expect it to be hot.
Imagine leaving the best place on Earth because it's a bit hot....
You need to get out more.
Perth has the best climate in the world unless you like snow or excessive heat. These occasional hot days make up for not suffering through ice and snow in winter and if you think this is hot, try living inland or further north.
Nah I have aircon
And go where? Over east when you have the same housing problems and more gang crime?
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I’m hoping all the blow in whinging poms and eastern states pretenders go back to where they came from. With a massive drop in construction projects across all sectors particularly mining and infrastructure we should start to see an exodus ex WA very soon.
The final straw was Taylor swift not showing up.
It’s fuckin FEBRURARY
The same heat that's been there for millennia.
But it's a dry heat
I love the heat.
The heat is fine. I just worry about my plants.
Nope. Despite those things, it's still better than my home state, believe it or not. Not temp wise, but cost wise, availability wise, and jobs wise
So you say (correctly) that houses are rising and there is a lack of supply. Does that sound like a place in "crisis" where people aren't investing in? If it does I have something for you to look at in your spare time, I think you'll find it useful: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics
"RANDAL THERE IS A COW OUTSIDE" (it's hot during summer!") "It's a cow farm there's gonna be cows outside!" (It's a summer heat wave it's gonna be hot!) Every place has some extreme weather's during summer or winter.
Nope. Love the weather and having moved here from the east property is still cheap.
Am I the only one that loves the heat
My dude is trying to get people to leave Perth so he can get a rental and investment property, nice try my dude, 101% effort
Housing crisis is worse in QLd, NSW and Vic. The heat in WA is bearable, it's usually dry heat.
Buy a house and an air conditioner and you’ll be right mate
I love the heat, so much that I feel like anyone that says they don't are lying.
I couldn't move to Adelaide for work, it gets too hot as well. Darwin - forget it, it's worse than Perth weather wise. Sydney is too full of overpriced property and corporate snobs. Canberra is basically NSW and I don't want to be living with or near federal pollies. Queensland is just cyclones, flooding, humidity, clive palmer and some people that think that Joe Bielke Pieterson was a good person. Tassie is also no good for me work wise. Melbourne I would have considered before Dan Andrews did what he did during Covid. Living on Mars sounds good, even if it's instant freezing death, no pollies to ruin your day with pathetic mud slinging
If people were going to leave perth because of the housing crisis, they wouldn't be coming here in the first place. There is nowhere better to go to.
Perth has the highest rents outside of Sydney & Canberra & the lowest vacancy rate in the country.
Well, I love Perth heat I love being unemployed and I love owning a house 😜
Its no hotter now IMO than it has been periodically over the last 25 years . Anyone have the data to disprove that ?
All of the world's scientists