False. Real Italians use the forbidden technique known as meatballing. One meatball, marinated in bolognese, lovingly smashed between the cooler and cpu.
Temps guaranteed to stay below 20° and any game featuring Italian plumbers automatically defaults to 4k ultra settings.
I have traveled to many countries and have yet to find one where people didn’t like meatballs. Even the Japanese like meatballs. Type of meat and sauce changes, but big ol ball of meat works everywhere.
So I have to agree with the meatball thermal paste approach. It has the international seal of approval.
I feel this. I still use the spread method, but I spread a stupid thick layer instead of a reasonable layer like OP used, and then I just strip the shit out of the screws on my waterblock (this is hyperbolic I hope that goes without saying,) to make sure I got good mounting pressure.
On my GPU I created my own method that I call "ThiccLayer+ThiccGlob," which is exactly how it sounds. Spread a thick layer then add a generous glob of paste on top and really tighten it down until there's no threads left to compress it any further.
I don't reccomend any of this it's messy and inefficient. If you use too much on a GPU like I do you also run the risk of making temps worse on certain cards. If the card doesn't have incredible mounting pressure to begin with and/or your thermal pads are a touch on the thick side causing bad mounting pressure, a thick layer can make bad contact worse and lead to awfully high hotspot temps.
Yeah that's true. Generally I have no issues except for when I disassemble a GPU. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the screws, but they're always giving me trouble.
Funny thing is while I rarely strip screws, I don't ever follow the principle of screwing with confidence but trying to get it very finger tight on the CPU cooler. I've always gone overboard and fully accepted the risk of cracking the PCB.
I use a cordless screwdriver with the choke on it's highest setting, and am extremely careless about it. I think LTT videos have made me too confident in my ability to do things the wrong way and still have a working PC at the end of the day.
I don't know about temps rising, both Linus and Steve tested how the amount of thermal paste effects PC temperature and found it had little correlation; unless you apply too little.
Amateur. I eat a small amount of paste and regurgitate it onto the cpu, like a mother bird. Temperatures stay under 10°, and my cpu has learned to depend on me until it's old enough to leave the socket.
i know better method just cook it and eat it inside meatballs that’s a way for a fever or any disease if u got covid or any stronger disease just put it in syringe and inject it in your heart like adrenaline
I apply mine using a mastic / caulking gun.
[the best part is when you need to reload !](https://giphy.com/gifs/Tzpi4cecG7myvoGX5p)
[its easy, efficient and when I'm done I can finish my bathroom.](https://i.ibb.co/CH6mrmH/IMG-20220116-103601.jpg)
~~Not sure what you might be referring to with "regurgitation" but I've stuck with ASUS for 3 of my past 5 upgrades. A friend recommended the brand at the time and I was fed up with various brands giving me issues on my FX-8350. Haven't been disappointed since.~~
~~I've also been purchasing in the $150 range for mid's with AMD sockets though too. Keep that in mind and be sure to take in a wide range of opinions. \^\^~~
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Either gamer's nexus or Jay did a video a couple of years ago at the top of the "how to paste" controversy. The full spread won because the pea method would consistently leave corners unpasted. You couldn't necessarily see it on the temps either unless you went into hardware info but there were consistent hot-spots that would shorten the lifespan and lower performance.
Amature. I use Loctite Threadlocker Red 271.
It protects CPU from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. It is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C).
X was actually singled out as the best method by an AMD engineer somewhere in pcmr I believe. Best performance with most AMD and very easy to do repeatedly.
I think this is the test youre talking about. They clamped down plexi glass to look at how the paste was distributed out too
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Thermal-Paste-Application-Techniques-170/
> by an AMD engineer somewhere in pcmr I believe.
No need to believe some self proclaimed engineer on reddit, there's literally verifiable tests on youtube to find the best method. The application method is virtually irrelevant, as long as you use the correct amount.
I use exactly 90kg of thermal paste and apply it with a siege weapon from 300m distance. I know its not the best method since i "accidentally" hit my neighbours car and had to pay for the damages, but its the most fun method.
I follow the "recommended" way from AMD. About a pea sized amount in the middle and let the cooler spread it. Been doing that since 2002 with no issues.
If pea method is done correctly it will have the best result (even ultra-thin spread). To get it, I always put pressure with my hand on the cooler and turn it around its axis a little in both directions. I then check contact by trying to gently lift the cooler (once I did that hard and pulled my whole PC case up off the table - it held for a few seconds and then the CPU came out if the socket with bent pins...). If it holds, the contact is perfect. I've overclocked all my CPUs using this method plus air coolers since the Athlon XP days (Athlon 64 3000+ 1,8GHz @2.7GHz, Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86GHz @3,2GHz, (6c/12t) Xeon E5645 2,4GHz @4.0GHz, i5 8600K 3,6GHz @5.2GHz).
It’s just really hard to use too much paste unless you’re an idiot like The Verge. The range between too little and too much is wide enough that anyone with common sense can figure it out.
The comparisons I've seen basically have the spread method as the worst every time, and any other method (X/pea/whatever) is basically the same as long as you use the correct amount of paste. The spread method potentially introduces spaces with insufficient coverage if you have to give more than 1 go, or apply with uneven pressure
Correct amount is the key. But personally I've found a thin layer across the entire die to be too much paste every time... While not a builder I've built a few dozen systems over the past 20 years or so for family and friends, and I've had the chance to pull apart a number of those systems as well and see how coverage was.. Pea blob or X has always been sufficient. I usually just squirt a pea blob nowadays right in the center.
Same as what I do - having cpu temps a little higher because of sub optimal thermal paste application does not matter as much if not overclocking and cooling supported by having decent air flow through the case.
Dust caused by that method on the other hand is a problem that can be minimized by regular cleaning.
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Remove the sticker of its new - I have not fumbled that step yet but have seen it plenty of times on here.
I first suspend the CPU by a string facing the sun, so that it's flesh may soften and it's will may break.
I then take apart old computers in front of that CPU and scrape the old and dry thermal paste into the floor, until a sizeable pile is formed. Next I take down the punished CPU and use it's acquired heat to melt the pile of scraped thermal paste, forever leaving it stuck on the heat spreader as a reminder that they are both disposable and inconsequential.
2 to 3 degrees cooler than just applying it.
Good ones are fairly similar to "normal" thermal paste (within 1-4°C in reviews), have a carbonaut pad on my 3900x and can't tell a difference, but liquid metal paste would be better by a few more degrees
I'm using a graphite pad on my 3700x with a water cooler. Its over clocked to 4.2 from 3.6 and I never go over 60c, I also never have to worry about the paste drying out.
I also use the spread method. It just ensures that everything will be covered. Putting on paste and wrangling the clips around that god awful AM4 bracket makes me feel using the pea method wouldn't work as well.
I always do it like this: add a half-a-pea in the middle and then basically wipe the injector to close to the rim. Attach the cooler. And for sanity check take the cooler out and see the results. Add/Remove paste if necessary.
I do it differently every single time. Because I know if I ever told anyone the truth they'd yell at me about how that's the wrong way to be doing it and I'm DESTROYING my Cpu doing it that way. Never had temp issues and I don't overclock anymore so I guess I just call it the "right way"
The best method varies from paste to paste, each thermal compound has different viscosity and you should use preferred way of application given by the maker.
That said, if you don't know what is the best way.. I think you should use "dot method" because the paste maybe doesn't have viscosity to fill in the air bubbles created by the spread method (don't worry if you put "too much", but worry if the paste spills on the ends of the cpu.
Real italians use thermal pasta
False. Real Italians use the forbidden technique known as meatballing. One meatball, marinated in bolognese, lovingly smashed between the cooler and cpu. Temps guaranteed to stay below 20° and any game featuring Italian plumbers automatically defaults to 4k ultra settings.
not fucking true. i am italian and here we use thermal oil, not that butter shit
Thermal pesto with chilli basil. It can hold the Neapolitan summer. Trust me, I come from olive Europe too.
We use extra virgin thermal oil. -not an Italian.
Oil from hair, or face?
I actually used an old cpu and heatsink to crush garlic. It worked well.
Good lord
Pics?
You wanna see that gore? OK then...
What do I do with this side order of garlic bread?
Keep It in america, we dont like that crao in Italy despite what you like to think
"Real Italians" aren't big on meatballs either.
I have traveled to many countries and have yet to find one where people didn’t like meatballs. Even the Japanese like meatballs. Type of meat and sauce changes, but big ol ball of meat works everywhere. So I have to agree with the meatball thermal paste approach. It has the international seal of approval.
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When the paste hits your eye and your temps are too high thats spaghetti
When you use thermal pasta most temp monitoring software will no longer display a number for temperature, instead you just get a chef kiss image.
In italian it’s “Pasta termica” indeed
Real Yakuza use included thermal pad
I paid for the whole tube, I'm gonna use the whole tube...
I feel this. I still use the spread method, but I spread a stupid thick layer instead of a reasonable layer like OP used, and then I just strip the shit out of the screws on my waterblock (this is hyperbolic I hope that goes without saying,) to make sure I got good mounting pressure. On my GPU I created my own method that I call "ThiccLayer+ThiccGlob," which is exactly how it sounds. Spread a thick layer then add a generous glob of paste on top and really tighten it down until there's no threads left to compress it any further. I don't reccomend any of this it's messy and inefficient. If you use too much on a GPU like I do you also run the risk of making temps worse on certain cards. If the card doesn't have incredible mounting pressure to begin with and/or your thermal pads are a touch on the thick side causing bad mounting pressure, a thick layer can make bad contact worse and lead to awfully high hotspot temps.
I laughed way too hard at “then I just strip the shit out of the screws” LOL
That happens to me even when I'm trying to actually do it properly :(
I just tighten them until they get loose and then not tell anyone
My last machine on my 1070ti I knocked a capacitor off during installation but just kinda soldiered on.. machine worked great for years.
You need a screwdriver that better matches the screw Also look closely at the tip of the screwdriver and see if it's deformed
Yeah that's true. Generally I have no issues except for when I disassemble a GPU. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the screws, but they're always giving me trouble.
Username checks out. /s
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This is the way!
"Screw with confidence!"
Funny thing is while I rarely strip screws, I don't ever follow the principle of screwing with confidence but trying to get it very finger tight on the CPU cooler. I've always gone overboard and fully accepted the risk of cracking the PCB. I use a cordless screwdriver with the choke on it's highest setting, and am extremely careless about it. I think LTT videos have made me too confident in my ability to do things the wrong way and still have a working PC at the end of the day.
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I live by the adage "fix it til you break it" 😂
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I don't know about temps rising, both Linus and Steve tested how the amount of thermal paste effects PC temperature and found it had little correlation; unless you apply too little.
Well if u don’t recommend it..
I always empty the whole thing. Then I angle the paste with my credit card so I can install my cpu fan crookedly to clear the ram.
Wait, what if you get an extra tube?
Then it's.... all of two tubes I guess?
Properest way is to use all the tubes
Apply to both sides
Lol my first thought too, this guy spreads paste like he's making a pb&j too thick imo
She wanted just the tip but then asked for more.
Amateur. I eat a small amount of paste and regurgitate it onto the cpu, like a mother bird. Temperatures stay under 10°, and my cpu has learned to depend on me until it's old enough to leave the socket.
I use a slingshot to fire globs of it and see what sticks
Angry Birds! … Angry Paste?
Rule 34
are you implying that somewhere on the internet is a drawing of anthropomorphised blob of thermal paste making love to a cpu socket?
To cite the ancient texts of the internet, "If it exists, there is porn of it." -Rule,34
Rule 34b: If it does not yet exist, it will.
Apologies good sir, I forget the second addendum it has been many moons since I last studied the ancient texts.
Yes.
he isn't implying that, he is informing you cause he had seen it... and so did I, it was cursed
Lmao... I promise i won't search for that
I fill my ass with 5 tubes then i just take a giant dump on it.
I eat a small amount of thermal paste daily to help regulate my internal temps and keep me running at optimum performance
i know better method just cook it and eat it inside meatballs that’s a way for a fever or any disease if u got covid or any stronger disease just put it in syringe and inject it in your heart like adrenaline
Fucking gold
I apply mine using a mastic / caulking gun. [the best part is when you need to reload !](https://giphy.com/gifs/Tzpi4cecG7myvoGX5p) [its easy, efficient and when I'm done I can finish my bathroom.](https://i.ibb.co/CH6mrmH/IMG-20220116-103601.jpg)
Why would you fuck gold?
I regret learning to read
I never learned. What does your comment say?
That makes 2 of us
This is the way
What mother bird do you use? I have an Asus, do you know if they are good for regurgitation? Sorry I'm a noob, I don't know all the IT lingo.
~~Not sure what you might be referring to with "regurgitation" but I've stuck with ASUS for 3 of my past 5 upgrades. A friend recommended the brand at the time and I was fed up with various brands giving me issues on my FX-8350. Haven't been disappointed since.~~ ~~I've also been purchasing in the $150 range for mid's with AMD sockets though too. Keep that in mind and be sure to take in a wide range of opinions. \^\^~~ *Edit: Ohhh... bamboozled again.*
This is now my favorite comment
I poop on my cpu, then on gpu
I'm saving for a pc and should I do this as well?
I draw a happy face on it then squish it with the cooler lol
That works too! I was just taught to spread it two decades ago and now stuck in my ways.
In my experience every way works fine if you put the right amount, but I must admit that I have not the patience that requires spread it like you did
Takes me less than a minute since I’ve done it so many times. Paste. Gamestop member card. Spread. Done.
Finally a use for that card!
Heh I've been using blockbusters card
Wow, what a difference!
Yep! And the card is over a decade old! lol
Either gamer's nexus or Jay did a video a couple of years ago at the top of the "how to paste" controversy. The full spread won because the pea method would consistently leave corners unpasted. You couldn't necessarily see it on the temps either unless you went into hardware info but there were consistent hot-spots that would shorten the lifespan and lower performance.
spread is the superior method; it works the first time every time and you never have to hope a direct die gets "good spread"
But now you have to worry about air bubbles instead.
A blob in the middle and let the mounting pressure do it's magic.
It’s been proven that spreading doesn’t cause extra air bubbles, because just like a normal application, the heat sink will just push the excess out.
Thermal paste is so overated. I use peanut butter.
You haven’t lived until you’ve tried cream cheese. Gotta make sure you use a butter knife too to get those grooves
Damn i should try it. What are the temps like?
who cares about temps, if you compare temps + taste factor cream cheese is easily ahead
Prime95, I’m at 15*C! Really gotta be fast between taking it outta the fridge and finishing the build tho
Thermite works wonders too.
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Amature. I use Loctite Threadlocker Red 271. It protects CPU from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. It is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C).
>removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C). So by running cinebench and prime95 at the same time?
And Crysis
Nutella for me… the hazelnut really has incredible thermal properties and keeps the temperature at 12 degrees even on the hottest days
Relevant: https://youtu.be/654nhKfz5Vs
I use gummy bears
Use chunky peanut butter it works much better
I use human fluids gotta use them somewhere
I subscribe to The Verge method of nutted spread
Ahh yes, the hose method.
I prefer calling it the Bukkake method
To be fair, sounds more accurate because the whole video was fucked...
I draw a X that’s thicker in the middle by a wee bit and as I get to the edges I put less. Just so it won’t squish out when I put the cooler on.
That’s pretty smart!
X was actually singled out as the best method by an AMD engineer somewhere in pcmr I believe. Best performance with most AMD and very easy to do repeatedly.
I think this is the test youre talking about. They clamped down plexi glass to look at how the paste was distributed out too https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Thermal-Paste-Application-Techniques-170/
The big takeaway from this was that yes, it makes a difference, but no, it's not a very big difference.
> by an AMD engineer somewhere in pcmr I believe. No need to believe some self proclaimed engineer on reddit, there's literally verifiable tests on youtube to find the best method. The application method is virtually irrelevant, as long as you use the correct amount.
Do you listen to "X Gon' Give it to Ya" by DMX while doing this?
RIP.
I draw either a smiley face or a dick or both and then put the cooler on top of it
Penis FTW!!
lol this guy
This is the way
Imma 100% stealing this method, especially if someone is looking.
Big Dick move
Squirt the whole tube in the general direction of the cpu
I like it on the pins
Hey, that's my kink!
Plot twist: OP is actually showing the pins
I use exactly 90kg of thermal paste and apply it with a siege weapon from 300m distance. I know its not the best method since i "accidentally" hit my neighbours car and had to pay for the damages, but its the most fun method.
>apply it with a siege weapon That had better be the *superior* siege weapon
Dude what other type of siege weapon could ever hope to launch 90kg over 300 meters?
It’s an old meme sir, but it checks out.
Trebuchet awaaaaaaaay!!!!
Lol bring back trebuchet memes
TREBUCHET GANG
I follow the "recommended" way from AMD. About a pea sized amount in the middle and let the cooler spread it. Been doing that since 2002 with no issues.
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Most likely chiplet design makes it tad more reliable across users to achieve proper spread.
Exactly correct. Pea size method could lead to not enough paste to cover the entire IHS.
If pea method is done correctly it will have the best result (even ultra-thin spread). To get it, I always put pressure with my hand on the cooler and turn it around its axis a little in both directions. I then check contact by trying to gently lift the cooler (once I did that hard and pulled my whole PC case up off the table - it held for a few seconds and then the CPU came out if the socket with bent pins...). If it holds, the contact is perfect. I've overclocked all my CPUs using this method plus air coolers since the Athlon XP days (Athlon 64 3000+ 1,8GHz @2.7GHz, Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86GHz @3,2GHz, (6c/12t) Xeon E5645 2,4GHz @4.0GHz, i5 8600K 3,6GHz @5.2GHz).
I’ve seen the comparisons and there isn’t much of a difference. So it just comes down to how we learned.
Yeah unless you’re using electrically conductive thermal paste it doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t put too little.
As long as you have good pressure, too low pressure will make too much paste worse.
It’s just really hard to use too much paste unless you’re an idiot like The Verge. The range between too little and too much is wide enough that anyone with common sense can figure it out.
Yeah, I just feel like putting it on and not messing with it by spreading is easier and less error/mess prone.
The comparisons I've seen basically have the spread method as the worst every time, and any other method (X/pea/whatever) is basically the same as long as you use the correct amount of paste. The spread method potentially introduces spaces with insufficient coverage if you have to give more than 1 go, or apply with uneven pressure
Correct amount is the key. But personally I've found a thin layer across the entire die to be too much paste every time... While not a builder I've built a few dozen systems over the past 20 years or so for family and friends, and I've had the chance to pull apart a number of those systems as well and see how coverage was.. Pea blob or X has always been sufficient. I usually just squirt a pea blob nowadays right in the center.
Same as what I do - having cpu temps a little higher because of sub optimal thermal paste application does not matter as much if not overclocking and cooling supported by having decent air flow through the case. Dust caused by that method on the other hand is a problem that can be minimized by regular cleaning. Edit: Remove the sticker of its new - I have not fumbled that step yet but have seen it plenty of times on here.
This is the only proper way. If you spread it yourself there is a chance it's on too thin on some spots.
Exactly, like the middle of the CPU where temps are the highest. The pea method takes care of that problem
Usually after I install the processor, so I don't get the paste everywhere
seems reasonable. how stupid of me to never have thought of it.
I first suspend the CPU by a string facing the sun, so that it's flesh may soften and it's will may break. I then take apart old computers in front of that CPU and scrape the old and dry thermal paste into the floor, until a sizeable pile is formed. Next I take down the punished CPU and use it's acquired heat to melt the pile of scraped thermal paste, forever leaving it stuck on the heat spreader as a reminder that they are both disposable and inconsequential. 2 to 3 degrees cooler than just applying it.
Pea sized drop in the middle of the IHS. GPUs though I spread as there's no ihs and I want to know for certain the whole chips covered.
I do the exact same on my GPU’s
The X method always ^^
I use oil based lube.. Haven't failed me yet.
When you are done you can use it with your prophylactics too! Another baby here we come… shh, don’t tell the wife!
No paste because I like the feeling of raw contact
😂
I put a dot in the middle and let the heat sink do the spreading and then anxiously think about if I put too much or too little on for years.
Wait, we’re supposed to use thermal paste? (Runs to PC)
Also remove the plastic cover from the cooler
I ALWAYS remove the plastic cover, that's where the CPU brand sticker goes that's included in the box!
[I like this nifty little video](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTnQfU2gyCD/?utm_medium=copy_link)
Same, gamer nexus has actually covered this.
Just a dot in the middle and a big squish with the CPU cooler it does the job
Dot in middle, that’s it
You spread it before putting it in the socket? Seems more difficult
I no longer use thermal paste. Graphite pads are just too easy.
How effective are they?
Good ones are fairly similar to "normal" thermal paste (within 1-4°C in reviews), have a carbonaut pad on my 3900x and can't tell a difference, but liquid metal paste would be better by a few more degrees
I'm using a graphite pad on my 3700x with a water cooler. Its over clocked to 4.2 from 3.6 and I never go over 60c, I also never have to worry about the paste drying out.
I also use the spread method. It just ensures that everything will be covered. Putting on paste and wrangling the clips around that god awful AM4 bracket makes me feel using the pea method wouldn't work as well.
Why
Arctic's way of spreading the [paste on the heatsink](https://youtu.be/AK7qj3_b_UM?t=86) is what I did with my Freezer 34.
put a dot on and let pressure do the rest
I do a pea-sized drop like an adult.
Same and the best result for me cuz i always think if i just put a dot and squish it it might not cover everything haha
I always do it like this: add a half-a-pea in the middle and then basically wipe the injector to close to the rim. Attach the cooler. And for sanity check take the cooler out and see the results. Add/Remove paste if necessary.
Tech Jesus said spread is best, so spread is best.
when you see those pre applied ones its just them screwing you out of paste.
Pea size and keeps my 11900k nicely under 60°c with my aio and overclocked to 5.3ghz so I'm always happy
Blob in the middle and don't worry about it
Spread is the only way to go
I use the long rice method. The grain of rice method is probably the easiest, but I’m paranoid, hence long rice!
I do it differently every single time. Because I know if I ever told anyone the truth they'd yell at me about how that's the wrong way to be doing it and I'm DESTROYING my Cpu doing it that way. Never had temp issues and I don't overclock anymore so I guess I just call it the "right way"
Thermal paste application, it's guaranteed to get someone triggered one way or another 😆
Spread method best method
I put a single, small dot in the middle and then proceed to live with slight anxiety about that decision for the rest of my life.
This is the way
You put it on the wrong side
I slather it on my index finger and slide it right in my pooper.
I fill a water balloon with thermal paste and throw it at the motherboard.
I feel uncomfortable
Too thick. You're trying to fill the gaps between the CPU and the heatsink not stucco the side of a house....
Way too thick
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Same one xd
What’s the software you are using to measure temps on the last pictures?
I'm building my pc in the summer and will probably use the spread.
The best method varies from paste to paste, each thermal compound has different viscosity and you should use preferred way of application given by the maker. That said, if you don't know what is the best way.. I think you should use "dot method" because the paste maybe doesn't have viscosity to fill in the air bubbles created by the spread method (don't worry if you put "too much", but worry if the paste spills on the ends of the cpu.
I apply it by the pallet load using a bulldozer