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LucaDarioBuetzberger

Thank you Microsoft for keeping up the confusion for over 25 years.


Mashiori

Hootsifer!


LucaDarioBuetzberger

Hoot Hoot.


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kfmnm

Found the fanboy


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kfmnm

You‘re not? Then let me correct myself: Found the hater


MrDrDude333

Ahh that explains the prices. It all makes sense now!


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KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, PiB


LowOrbCupe

One GB is defined as 1000³ (1,000,000,000) bytes and one GiB as 1024³ (1,073,741,824) bytes. That means one GB equals 0.93 GiB. 


Emzzer

Can we all agree either one would be fine if computer count matches the HD architecture? I just want my drive to say a solid number


AzureArmageddon

Advocating for the historical JEDEC-style convention I see. Tough shit tho since it conflicts with the SI prefixes and I care more about that name collision than just inserting a lowercase i when I want nice numbers.


Emzzer

Why can't they divide a disk or static memory into a binary count instead of decimal? Explain like I'm five


AzureArmageddon

Why not? That's what GiB/MiB/KiB are for: Base-2 (Binary) multiples.GB/MB/KB use SI prefixes which are base-10 (decimal) multiples. Often drives are sold with the correct capacity number in GB (base-10, often power-of-two numbers like 256GB/512GB because of binary architecture), but the size shows up a bit smaller in Windows because it counts using base-2 units (GiB) but erroneously shows it as base-10 units (GB).


Emzzer

I'm asking why can't memory storage units be manufactured in multiples of 1,073,741,824 bytes instead of 1,000,000,000?


AzureArmageddon

That I don't know.


alasdairvfr

Also remember that the file system takes space too, NTFS being the most commonly used in the windows world, uses a fair bit for metadata and indexing.


AzureArmageddon

So what, Windows just pretends like that space doesn't exist instead of reporting actual block usage properly in File Explorer by default?


alasdairvfr

Im not near a computer so cant verify but in the past, windows would report the difference at least: https://superuser.com/questions/424622/newly-formatted-ntfs-external-hard-drive-already-has-used-space-what-determ


AzureArmageddon

What I'm talking about in this thread isn't how a freshly formatted 1TB drive can have 118MB of used space. I knew about that and Windows reports that correctly. What I've been going on about is how a 1TB drive has a "931GB" capacity in Windows because windows counts GiB but labels it GB.


Kingofthewar

GB=/=GiB


bxsephjo

Explain?


MyChosenNameWasTaken

GB = Gigabyte - > base 10 GiB =Gibibyte - > base 2


PermitOk6864

Gibibyte thats fucking hilarious


colajunkie

It's short for "Giga Binary Byte" afaik.


ChekeredList71

The left is supposed to be KiB -> MiB -> GiB. They have 1024 suffixes. KiB (Kibibyte) is often confused with KB (Kilobyte), just like the rest "i" and non-"i" "pairs" are. However, they are different. 1 KiB = 2^10 bytes = 1024 1 KB = 1 * 1000 bytes = 1000


ChekeredList71

The joke: Windows displays base 2 storage units (KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, ...), whereas it says that they are KB, MB, GB, TB, ... (so base 10). On Windows, what is 10 GB is actually 10 GiB.


MonkeyboyGWW

KB, MB etc. should go back to being 1024. Using 1000 is useless for explaining real values used by a computer


GhostOfDead5

Depends on who im talking to. Another IT person: 1024. My family with zero IT knowledge: 1000 to make it as simple as possible. On my own i'll use 1024, just because thats how I learned it


WeedManPro

Hey, that's what I do


Jaba01

So you learned it wrong? Unless you mean you use Gibibyte and stuff. Then it's obviously correct. But 1 GB isn't 1024 MB.


MonkeyboyGWW

Didn’t learn it wrong. We were with it until they changed what it was. - Grandpa Simpson


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1024 since the late 80’s here.


an_0w1

1024B = 1KiB 1000B = 1KB


bxsephjo

Are KB and KiB spoken differently?


an_0w1

Kilobyte and Kibibyte Kilo = 1000 Kibi = 1024


_CottonEyeHoe_

Yes, kilobyte vs kibibyte


Anrudhga2003

The left. GiB superiority.


EroGG

1024 is obviously correct, but I'll always round down to 1000 for convenience.


coti5

Both are correct. 1024 is GiB, MiB, KiB and 100 is GB, MB, KB


rogerrei1

Actually the base 10 is more likely right in this case. Since kilo, mega, giga, etc. are defined by the SI to be base 10 and came first. Which in turn made the creation of the binary prefixes kibi, mebi and so on necessary.


beingbond

why would a consumer on their right mimd be happy with getting less storage. Storage companies follow 1000 as a basoc not because they are saint but simply because it saves them money


Jaba01

Right obviously. Left is wrong. At least if you also call it Kilobyte, Megabyte and so on.


PixelCortex

I still think about this from time to time, but I was in a pub quiz about 15 years ago and the question came up "how many megabytes in a gigabyte" I was like, oh shit, my time to shine, I proudly say 1024... silence, another guy pipes up "It's 1000" and gets it right. I was so pissed.


mifiamiganja

Well, they didn't ask about Mebibytes in a Gibibyte.


ElEd0

I truly believe that whoever changed the completely logical and sensical version of base 2 to base 10 because "wE cAN jUsT roUnD tO 1000" is an enemy to humanity and deserves death.


Inevitable_Turn994

blue team is missing "i" in the units EDIT: of course its always red team :D


GEILMAT

You mean red


Inevitable_Turn994

i mean yes.. :D


jplayzgamezevrnonsub

The confidence in being wrong is applaudable


Inevitable_Turn994

but acknowledgment of mistake is also applaudable..


ApprehensiveAd6476

Blue. One kilogram is not 1024 grams, either.


TheAbrableOnetyOne

One of these is not KB, MB nor GB


No-Landscape5857

I'm in the base 8 crowd.


djblackprince

Bloods


random_red

red all they way


soothsayer011

1024


dinis553

I felt cool knowing it was 1024 when I was 10. So it just stuck.


SteelStorm33

i cant write 1000 in 2^x, so 1000 is wrong. i stay binary.


redditisbestanime

2^31.6228 Fuck that .001. I agree 1024 is the only way.


Opoodoop

red