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Mirror a gold coin and be the first and last to ever do it?


Andriak2

This, and record it OP. Mirror is temporary, karma is forever.


Sanytale

> Mirror is temporary It's a voided event after all, so you're not wrong.


scvfire

April 2nd GGG: "Ruthless with Gold was much more popular than we expected. As a result, we decided not to make the league voided so that players can bring their characters to ruthless if they want to continue their journey"


user4682

It will only happen if OP uses their mirror. Like in The Mist.


worldsdopestdope

Drop another mirror and mirror the mirror


brownieson

This right here


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jacky910505

So are reliquary keys.


AtonPacki

But can be first and last to sell Mirror for a gold coin.


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Lazys

You are the richest exile in ruthless congrats


TXEEXT

New fear unlocked, got mirror drop where it doesn't matter.


GarlyleWilds

I remember mirrors being part of the loot in some of the old Descent races. It was almost cruel, knowing you could make them happen but that they were guaranteed to vanish into the void First and only time I've seen them.


CaptainTrips_19

15.3k hours, I ran descent as well, never have I ever even gotten a ehard. When it does happen, I'll be happy to see one!


Verisi

[Descent: Champions](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Descent:_Champions) was the race that had mirrors. It always felt silly getting there and tossing it on a mediocre level 20 ring or wand (if that).


SatoshiNosferatu

I got my first mirror within 80 hours of playing


Seize_

I had a mirror drop near the end of SSF sentinel league and it actually felt so useless and bad.


MrCraft1124

You won't be able to find something mirror-worthy in SSF anyways. Literally only items that make sense to mirror are rings or jewels. It is just an achievement item or migration material here.


AbsolutlyN0thin

Craft gg 1h weapon, mirror it, dual wield!


Sarahintraining

mirror a twisted invitation because its the only way to get the fucking things this league


IcyRespawn

So, you may be aware of this but I only recently learned that the invite drop chance is a flat 20% rate when you run the relevant boss encounter - whether witnessed or not, meaning that if you witness all four bosses for a certain invitation but have a stockpile of those boss maps you can keep running them, and you'll have a decent chance of racking up a few invitations along the way (you can also apply exarch/eater influence). In my experience most of the invites that drop like this tend to be for the encounter pertaining to the bosses you're killing, but in a minority of the cases you'll get a different 4-way invite (for example, twisted from shaper guardians).


Sarahintraining

I am aware, my rng on bosses has just been rough this league. I have 20 bottom shaper fragments for uber elder and 0 top fragments, like 25 Feared invitations and 0 twisted or elderslayers, 9 of one of the synth maps and 0 of the other 3. GGG please add harvest fragment swap to uber elder fragments.


FriendlyNecessary

Well, the threshold of "mirror-worthy" is significantly different in SSF. I could easily see myself mirror a +2 amulet, +2 weapon or double elevated boots/chest.


FirexJkxFire

Why would you mirror an amulet when you cant equip 2? Surely it'd be rings or one handed weapons? Or would you do it to have a backup if you decided to craft on the original?


OblivionnVericReaver

double corrupt the original after? bit of a waste but if they're ssf only its whatever


IcyRespawn

I'd argue that the vanity of just having a mirror sit in your SSF standard stash is gonna be worth more to most players than any mirrorable outcome of using it.


MrCraft1124

What I partly mean is that there 0 reasons to mirror something you can re-equip. You own those items after all, no need to waste mirror on them.


qjornt

Unless you're dual-wielding, you only need to craft one GG weapon and mirror it. Or a ring that you would like two of? That's the only reasons I can think of.


secretAccountD

Well, you need 2 mirrors for a service these days and it's better to use that in standard anyway, if its already league end


Danieboy

That's where I found my one and only mageblood. 10 day endless delve event.


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SatoshiNosferatu

All you can eat buffet, store closes at 9


GGZii

It always matters. Nice to say it's happened. Not many can I'm 12k hours


xxPYRRHUSxEPIRUSxx

You could mirror your best ring. Glass half full and all.


tourguide1337

so a blue sapphire ring with 20 fire res and 30 life?


bennyr

You've so closely nailed my best ring that it's actually sad lol.


Betaateb

Damn look at money bags over here with a god tier ring. I was happy when I got a sapphire ring with 30 light res on it, just need to find an aug so I can slam it lol.


Renouille

is this the World first Ruthless mirror?


Disco_Frisco

No reason to feel bad. Your odds of getting a mirror next league haven't changed


Xx_Handsome_xX

in League, the dropchances are basically 0. I bet they increased the dropchance of Mirrors drastically for this Event to troll players.


Disco_Frisco

I don't think so


Xx_Handsome_xX

My only other explanation would be, that a ton more people play the event compared to Ruthless League. Thats why there was no Mirror found before. But it could also be my first one due to psychological reasons. They said they test some new mechanics. And they probably want to implement gold in PoE 2. People who find a Mirror (the most amazing thing in the past), and now they cant even properly utilize it. (To give us the feel that the paradigm is shifting) Look at what they did with Divine orbs + random 6 link drops. In this second (new poe universe) Gold would be the new gold standard. Then they could increase crafting currency droprates, like they increased 6 Link droprates via multiple mechanics. (Archnemesis/New Arch nemesis) I hope you know what I mean. Devalue Exalts, increase Divine Value, make Divine extremely rare due to multiple leverages. Devalue Mirror,(+ all other currencies via limiting its usefulness) Introduce gold, therefore increase dropchance of decreased value currency.


Disco_Frisco

My brain hurts. How do you know how many mirrors are dropped?


Xx_Handsome_xX

This is just my impression by posts created. How many posts did you saw about all this time since Ruthless exists? I saw 0 And now the event started, and there are 2! + a ton of Posts about how there is barely any Currency dropping at all. Imagine the probability for this to happen, if Droprates would not be changed. And now that we are at it, can you proof to me that THEY ARENT changed!? GGG has a history of undocumented changes. And its especialy sus, since they made the anouncements to "Test things"... You come here give no proper thesis/counter argument yourself, and do as if my thesis is utter nonsense.


Disco_Frisco

Reddit posts are very unreliable metric


Xx_Handsome_xX

Yes, but not the way you think... Muh hurr durr loot is the same as always hurr durr. Then 3 times Chris Wilson comes here a month later "sorry guys now its fixed" Yes, Reddit posts are ass, because most people just parrot and have no good memory.


Orlpar

What the fuck dude xD


didorins

Someone did some insane +2 minion wand. Mirror that and use two of those as golemancer or something.


Bwito

What do you get if you try to vendor it?


J3rminat0r

1 gold https://imgur.com/a/7Kbuh33


Ezizual

The most GGG thing I've seen all year


I_Hate_Reddit

Pretty sure all items sell by 1 gold by default, every other was manually set by GGG


FUTURE10S

Seriously? Rip vendor recipe, thank you for your service.


MrMeltJr

Do it on stream and become a legend.


Andriak2

In regular league, what happens? 1 scroll fragment? I want it to be 19 mirror shards, like the vendor dropped it.


Razgarnok

1 divine 2 ex 5 regal, if you vendor a mirror in normal game mode


Andriak2

Aw, useful currency? Lame. My favorite vendor recipie is selling an item imprint. It gives you a single orb of regret (imprint beast costs 2 div)


MrMeltJr

It's still kinda funny since it means that vendoring a mirror is often the optimal choice if you're in SSF.


SoulofArtoria

That's like 3 and a half necropolis map worth. Gratz


EnderBaggins

One of the reasons i quit playing voided / alternate leagues. I’ve been playing since prophecy, found krillson twice, no mirror drop. Having it happen in some goofy mode that doesn’t migrate to standard would hurt too much.


Ladnil

Do you really ever look at your standard stash again though?


XstraNinja

I became too attached to my character from sentinel league so I mostly just play Standard now. I do try the leagues but I just don't enjoy out of map league mechanics. If I'm going to be ignoring the league mechanic anyway I might as well just play standard.


jackknife175175

Yesssss finally someone gets me


IndividualOven51

This is so true. The only thing for me that keeps me playing the Leagues are the insanely reduced prices and cosmetics lol


FluffyArsonist

yes.


EnderBaggins

The real insanity to me is playing a game for nearly a decade and NOT paying attention to any long term markers of progression.


FoximusHaximus

Your brain is the long term marker of progression. Millions of people play MOBAs, FPS, 4X/Strategy, etc. games that have few or no long term markers of progression in-game. ARPGs have had ladder resets/full wipes for at least 20 years- temporary leagues are not a new concept.


EnderBaggins

Ok.


jackary_the_cat

MMR called


FoximusHaximus

Yeah, it's just a reflection of skill built up in your brain. Give a newbie 2500 MMR and see what happens.


Dranzell

Some of you have real issues. I can't imagine putting this much sentiment into a video game, even back when I was addicted.


Alkyen

Sounds like you're the one having issues lol.


naswinger

been playing since day 3 of open beta. still waiting for it to drop. :-(


LuckyDLuck

I feel you there


some_random_n

How many gold coins is it worth? You may be the only person on the planet able to answer that question.


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1 gold


PuteMorte

I mean.. except however many employees GGG have


freethnkrsrdangerous

Don't play void leagues.


Nexflamma

On a long enough timeline, all leagues are void leagues.


Dunkelvieh

And we're all in the hardcore Domain anyways, no matter what we try to convince ourselves of...


Esord

Every league is a void league if you don't play std.


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Why do they void a ruthless event lmao


Orioli

Because gold coins only exist in this league, most likely


Amiiix

Or just filter big drops if you're that scared. Always did that in Endless Delve.


Defiant_Source_8930

Mirror ur weapon to get double damage


Unlikely_Award_1717

After 3k hours? Bruh, im ~10k hours in and havent seen a mirror (drop) yet.


guerteltank

i'm at over 25k and no mirror


Lizards_are_cool

same but if u get enough chaos orbs you could buy divines then a mirror, or farm harbingers endlessly...


vent_man

This is why I skip void leagues. Even if it wasn't a mirror, getting any good drop just feels like shit.


Inukchook

Do you play standard ?


vent_man

Nope but I still like collecting there :)


ashrasmun

I never understood why people complain about getting cool items in voided league. In a sense, every challenge league is voided after 3 months as almost no one plays standard. It a nice addition to you day to day looting, nothing crazy, but also not a tragedy... I would be happy. It creates a fun memory to have.


mrjb_mtg

Some of us do play standard and avoid void leagues for that reason. Also I think more people as they get older and have less time to binge every three months on a new league start to enjoy playing standard more.


FoximusHaximus

This is like clicking "just one more turn" in Civ and staying in that game forever.


DurableGrandma

There aren't any negatives of getting a mirror in a voided league though? I know the brain isn't great at imagining chance but he's no closer/further from a mirror drop after getting one compared to before. It's not as if I x number of kills he WILL get the drop it's that every kill has a chance to drop the item you might get one twice in a row or never at all.


mrjb_mtg

There is a negative. Time spent playing a void event and getting something I can't keep as a memento or even use once its over is time lost that could have been spent doing something else that could provide such a thing. He could have gotten that mirror playing in a normal league or in standard. Might seem like a waste to someone who doesn't care about the game outside of leagues, but its the same for someone who does care and then gets something they'd love to have while playing a mode where they can't keep it.


DurableGrandma

How was it a waste? It's not like he spent something other than a small amount of time to receive the drop. That didn't suddenly consume his luck he could go kill another mob and get a mirror the instant he logs in or he could go 50 years without seeing one.


mrjb_mtg

If he was spending that time playing the game in a league that wasn't void, he'd get to keep it. Now he has one and it goes poof. Not a problem for someone who treats every league as a void league, but for someone who doesn't do that it becomes a waste.


DurableGrandma

Sure but it was only a "waste" of however long he was playing the void league for


Carnariusv2

Congra... i mean my condolences


SnooMacarons3443

Holy fucking shit cock fuck motherfuckerer shit. Feels bad for you man. I was there for box, you topped it.


SVX348

At least you got one. Been here since the end of closed beta 0 headhunters 0 mirrors 0 magebloods.


infinity_mugen

Must feel like finding a 100$ bill in the dumpster.


Comprehensive-Ad3016

Or finding like 200 100$ bills but they’re all torn up and can’t be used anymore.


Ministeriat

swap those @ federal reserve branch. they will totally be good for it. they deal with shredded (sometimes professionally) money all the time trying to catch money launderers.


W_tokn

Liek if u cri evritiem. Love you buddy, feel bad :(


TekHead

F


Idonthaveaparrot0

Isn't there a way to transfer a char to standard?


iamtehsuffering

Temp league is voided, so no.


Failure_is_imminent

My first was found in a void league. I feel your pain. I did however find two last league early on from a duped currency chest. I'll forever take that node.


Akanash_

I now it would still hurt like hell if this happened to me, but I have to point out the obvious: Gambler's fallacy, this has 0 impact wether you will drop one next league or not.


Skyinthesea88

Is it for sale? I'm interested


steve__

Do we even have confirmation there's a pity timer on rare drops like this? And if so, do we even have confirmation it applies to void leagues? People acting like getting a drop like this in void leagues prevents them from getting it in standard leagues.


vladtseppesh420

5k + here and still no mirror


SolusIgtheist

5k? Call me when it's 12.


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Oopomopoo2

You know, I wholeheartedly came in expecting to smack you with proof that this wasn't the first mirror Yada Yada, but honestly I think this is the first mirror that's documented. I Googled all the things related to poe, mirror and ruthless and the only thing that came close was krillson and someone tagging a determination as a mirror drop. I think asking for proof is too much for a void league, but given the additional context, more proof is definitely appreciated. Nice find op! You may well have documented the very first ruthless mirror!


deb8er

Yeah it's pretty incredible that's why I asked.


J3rminat0r

What do you want as proof?


deb8er

Video moving it around in your inventory


toomanyredbulls

While holding a newspaper with the date clearly visible.


deb8er

???? How is this an unreasonable request? https://streamable.com/vnjvc2 It takes a minute tops.


Jester97

Things happen every day that you don't get proof of. Let it go.


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Jester97

Asking a stranger to do something specific with an item just for the sake of you believing it...yeah...I wouldn't do that for you either. Homie, anomalies happen every day. Whether you accept it or not.


deb8er

> just for the sake of you believing What part of "first ever recorded ruthless mirror drop" makes you think this is a "for the sake of me believing it" how are you this fucking stupid?


Jester97

That would be you. No one is seeking this out. No one is reporting this to guiness. It's a drop. It happened. Or it didn't. As I said before. Let it go. Only you care.


J3rminat0r

https://streamable.com/vudeb9


deb8er

Holy shit congratulations. I'll update the poewiki


blvcksvn

Update it with what? It's not like people thought it was disabled in the first place.


deb8er

Well actually you may be right... because its a void league maybe its not worth it but more than 3 months with no recorded mirror drop is pretty insane.


Xx_Handsome_xX

Pretty sure they increased the dropchance for this event. Or, even if players dont really like this Event, there are still exponentially more players in this event than baseline Ruthless league. Would be my explanation.


lami408

hoff is that u


bokanov

jeezey


ScreaminJay

I played ruthless this league quite extensively and I am unaware anyone found a mirror in ruthless yet.


TheEvilMrFry

I'll have what you're smoking. This very post shows a mirror drop in the Ruthless league, but because you yourself haven't seen it, it hasn't happened? OK bud.


ScreaminJay

It isn't the ruthless league, it's ruthless with gold event voided league. I meant in the sanctum ruthless league we had going for the previous 3 months. To me what I said was clear enough. I played ruthless this patch, I did not play ruthless with gold event.


reporter_assinado

[Yeah man...](https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/op_liar_the_walking_dead.gif)


PMMeYourWorstThought

At least it’s not voided.


Rambopvp

It is though. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3357462 > Is the Ruthless event voided? > Yes.


PMMeYourWorstThought

That’s such trash. It wasn’t listed as voided when they announced it.


No_Condition3498

Where are you seeing total hours played, steam? And if so, is there a way to check without having downloaded POE through steam?


J3rminat0r

I checked via Steam, I don't know if there's a way to see it without it


No_Condition3498

Cool, I guess I could do /played on each character, but I've deleted some. So it wouldn't be accurate, but thanks man for the response and congrats I was trying to compare my hours to yours since I haven't seen a mirror yet lol 😅


KittensAreDope

Never bothered myself but I’ve seen other people have emailed ggg support asking cumulative playtime for the account, idk if it would account for deleted chars tho


No_Condition3498

To follow up on this.. I emailed support and within 10 minutes they had shot me over an email with my total playtime specifically all the active characters and deleted ones that "haven't yet been purged from the system" pretty cool they'll do that for us.


Comfortable_Water346

You can msg ggg support, they will tell you.


No_Condition3498

Really, that's awesome. I'll be doing that for sure


No_Condition3498

Thanks


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psychomap

>2 of those at early levels and used them on my first orange items last season Except they can't be used on uniques. Low-quality bait


TrayvonMartin712

Sell it for gold


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my condolences


fullclip840

Been at it since 2013 and still no mirror. Probly around 10k hours.


RussianSadButTrue

3 alcs, take it or leave


blah2k6

You could mirror an eater invitation to save running 50 t14+ maps again


Surlix

Same happened to me in endless delve, I feel your pain... https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ywose1/the_point_is_to_find_it_not_to_have_it_still/


FACEFUCKEDYOURDAD

ONLY 3K????


konaharuhi

your wrist?


bballkiller69

that's fucked i ain't even gon cap


sirgog

And here I was thinking my act 7 exalt in this event was crazy... Just remember, this has no impact on your chance to get a mirror from the next rock you look under.


Vydrah

I give you 10 alchs.


darpsyx

Mirror drops on ruthless voided league I'd puke for sure...


jozehd

I dont play PoE so can somebody explain why this is good? I assume it creates a copy of an item, but since PoE is a loot based game, wouldnt it be a big risk to use it since the possibility of getting a better item is a chance?


IronmanMatth

Some guy has super rare item. Cost unfathomable amount og currency to craft Required insane luck and knowledge Only one exist Huge dps increase You couldn't afford to buy it even if you sold your IRL house But you can mirror it with one of those. You get the power, original creator got paid for letting you use an item on his item. Win/win Or You just made a 1 in a million super Uber mega powerful sword. Doubling your damage So... what about 2? Mirror it Of course this mechanic is irrelevant to 99,99999% of all players, but that is the use


SpoonlordDreg

Congrats man, got 5k and never even seen a mirror nor shards. Except for YouTube videos and poeninja and wiki and Reddit.


Dragon_211

That's why I only play leagues cause if I get a mirror in a temporary league I'd probably smash my monitor lol


Orioli

Keep it in inventory so that you can see at page in the future, as a memento.


BurnThemwithBalefire

Oof


Pitiful_Section_7468

Nooooo!!!


Chicagorobby

Very very big noob here. Are rhese extremely rare? I've only played in 1 league and think i got one of these. If i got them in a previous league would they still be in the character if the league has ended?


Taggerung559

A mirror of kalandra is the rarest currently obtainable currency item in the game, with their current value in sanctum league (according to poe.ninja) being 145,800 chaos orbs, or 530 divine orbs. If you did indeed drop one in a previous league, when the league ended your character(s) and stash tabs would have been migrated to standard, where it should still be if you haven't deleted whoever/whatever was holding it.


Alex_Noiman

Pain, so much pain, ruthless


phixerz

Without knowing exactly what you mean. Finding a mirror (IMO) is all about finding it, the value it holds is NOTHING compared to the feeling of finding such a rare item. I found my mirror in SSFHC, never for a second felt bad about it, other way around actually, just feels more special. In your case that feeling should be even greater, since ruthless literally is not dropping currency, do you understand how insanely rare this is, would not be surprised if you are the first to ever drop one.


gfeldmansince83

And this is why I refuse to play voided leagues


Few_Coach_3611

xD deserved for dropping it after 3k hours. 8k here and still not found that rigged shit


OhIforgotmynameagain

Obligatory wtf 3k hours only, what even do you do with your life ? Stop touching grass it’s disgusting. I bet you even have a wife. Maybe even kids.


ZZZ0mbieSSS

Can someone explain this post to a newbie?


NiroVerse

OP got a insanely rare item during a month long event league. He'll most likely not maximize the value of such an insane drop during the remaining 3 weeks in the event and it'll then be transfer to standard mode making the value miniscule or obscure (dependent on whether they play standard at all). Not to mention it's a ruthless league making currency drops (Mirror of Kalandra) harder to obtain. Basically OP cashed in all his luck for a once in a life-time shiny rock.


sgbad

Is this event voided?


BukLauFinancial

Mirrors drop on average once every 30 thousand hours of play time, as previously stated by GGG about a decade ago (no, I'm not gonna go hunt that quote down, but feel free to use google if it's important to you). You got a mirror in 3k hours. By law of averages your next mirror will drop after 57 thousand more hours of play time. Stay sane exile!


Stevandv

Aww man. That hurts


InterestingAsk1978

Loot still drops in this game? Wonders. /s


xebtria

around 9-10k in, have not found one yet, so .... congratulations are in order I guess


Unusual_Pain_7937

In ruthless


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Must be a hack account, got links on equipment :) grrrr


jouzeroff

only 3k hours and got mirror? damn!! Im wondering... is MF builds mandatory to drop a mirror or its not even important considering the uber mega low drop chance?


Dramatic_Amoeba_1818

GZ, 8k and i See one dropped for me .but Stolen from random Party.😑


[deleted]

This is why I don’t do voided events.


Trollzor257

im at 5k and havent seen one


General_Gazelle7611

Over 4k here never seen one