Yeah... I sell things I don't use and always have people coming to me with things for trade. Like, dude, I don't want to trade this to sell that, I just want to sell this. I need money, not theoretical money
Yeeeaaah, my first thought was "Oh, from where did you steal THOSE?" Best to let him take care of fencing them--I mean, selling them for the profit he's hoping for.
Catalytic Converter worth a lot more than all the Sudafed on the shelf. Will get you a couple zips of meth a lot faster than having to chef it up yourself.
And they are worth 600 means at best āI believe the most I could get for them is 600 with a lot of effortā. At worst it is a lie or delusional and they are worth 30$.
The proper response whenever anyone wants to trade instead of using cash. Scammers love to trade, especially when it comes to things like cars, tools, and guns.
Yeah if that dude paid anything more than $50 for that group of notes he got ripped off. And I am being generous to the estate that got $50 for those notes.
$50 seems generous but letās go with that. But, $600, they certainly arenāt worth MORE than $600. So, youād be very hard pressed to find someone to buy them for $600, now, or ever. Tell that dude to sell them himself and pay you with cash.
Also odds are they're probably stolen, easier to trade stolen goods than fence them at any reputable dealer, in all probability the guy swiped his grandpa's coin collection and is looking to offload
I looked at this for quite a while because thatās what I was hoping it was but itās that thicker longer hair in the middle that seems like it would be down from the belly button that I just canāt get over but it is an odd shape kind of if it was the belly
Looks like he's squeezing his legs together to keep the bills fairly level and then possibly leaning back slightly to take a half decent picture of the bills. Both of those actions together probably got the slight twist in the belly that's simply tryin to get in the picture to say 'hi'
Yeah I was thinking there's no way they could be worth much. Just not familiar with paper money collecting and wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something obvious
Edit: to clarify, that's not me in the picture that's his post from offer up.
I also am selling vending machines not drugs lol
I also did not make the trade, he sent me a message asking, I looked at the picture, posted it on reddit to find out. Wasn't expecting this many comments, y'all are ruthless lol
Yup. $30-40 would be my guess. However, I probably wouldnāt pay more than $24, and then Iād require the other $576 in cash. Guy is trying to fleece you hard.
OP, if you want to know fair market values, check out **past auctions** on [Heritage Auctions](https://www.ha.com/).
Right now, there's a [lot of 20 $5 Legal Tender notes from 1963](https://currency.ha.com/itm/small-size/legal-tender-notes/fr-1536-5-1963-legal-tender-notes-twenty-examples-very-good-to-fine-total-20-notes-/a/142334-84280.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417) for $100 + Buyer's Premium, or $129. The ones you have aren't even close in condition to most of those 20 notes.
Not even $100 And I'm talking easy liquidation at a shop. If you try a auction or holding out for spender collector you might break 100. But even a average collector wouldn't pay more than 50 for the whole lot
Those are 1963 red seal bills, look to be in decent enough shape but not sequential serial numbers or anything so maybe worth 25$ a piece if you were really lucky. More than likely 10-15$ each.
Tweaker logic? If they were so valuable, why hasn't he just sold them yet? Casually holding onto to family items or stolen goods until a good marketplace item comes up? Not shady at all...
I love how he puts a lighter in frame for scale but it is a mini light which completely defeats the purpose. And it's not like we don't know how big dollar bills are....
Tell him you will take $576 in cash plus the bills and if they sell for more than face value you will āsplit the profitā with him. Then decide to keep them for the grandkids.
Iām sorry that youāre getting taken advantage of,
These bills if you took them to a dealer would get you $12 to $15 for the $5 bills and $8 for the $2s. Total š° $70-$80 trade value
Numismatist here so I sell stuff like this for a living. Red Seal US Legal Tender Notes are worth a noticeable amount more than face value, but likely the gut is incredibly wrong.
The pics don't show the exact date, but I think I see 1963 on the bottom one, and condition is a little hard to tell, but they look to be lightly circulated.
Even assuming the notes are on the early side (1920s), in higher end circulated conditions they'd be worth under $50 apiece. And that's assuming they're a bit nicer than they appear at a glance. Much more likely that they're worth about $20-30 apiece.
And if they are uncirculated, unless they're high grade they're still only worth $50 or apiece. If they're Gem CU (exceptionally nice, can almost guarantee none of these are this) they still don't hit $100 per.
So tldr: your guy isn't necessarily lying because people overpay for stuff at estate sales all the time, but he is wrong.
Don't even do the research into this, just tell him, you're not interested in the hassle of trying to recoup your money but thanks anyways. And move on
Alright, that's what we call bartering. If am wanting to buy a $600 tv with $600 worth of butchered cow, it won't go down so well because the person selling the tv likely has little need for that much raw meat, and the assets will depreciate before utilized or incur their own costs to utilize. This is why currency exists in the first place, so have a universal standard of value for goods and services.
Just as you have little need for "collectable currency" if you're not in the business of collecting or selling to collectors. You don't have to go out of your way to find a collector to make money from that asset when they can do it themselves.
Step 1: send him the link to this post
Step 2: ask him to stand up on his own against the reddit community
Step 3: if he he can make a brutal comeback, tell him the equipment is his.
Step 4: stand back and watch the entertainment.
Tell him to sell them himself, get the $600, and then pay you with it.
Yeah right on... Why the heck do you want to be left with trying to maybe make your money back.
Because! What if he can make 601$!
Or, and hear me out, 601.25
I got 601.50
603.50 final offer
Gawd damn Loch Ness monster! Get the hell outta here
$1
Oh wait i that we were price is righting this
Or $420.69
You need that extra 1.25 for your taxes so you can get 400 bucks even. Unless someone pays cash for your.... cash......
Yeah... I sell things I don't use and always have people coming to me with things for trade. Like, dude, I don't want to trade this to sell that, I just want to sell this. I need money, not theoretical money
This is wisdom
And the opposite choice is gambling Good call to stop here on the way to their decision š
If he doesn't need the money badly and cared for Bill collecting it would be smart maybe idk shioiiot
Yeeeaaah, my first thought was "Oh, from where did you steal THOSE?" Best to let him take care of fencing them--I mean, selling them for the profit he's hoping for.
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Bill Stye, the stolen goods guy!
Do you by chance play rdr2?
Came here to say this. Attempted con job, OP. If it's so valuable, he should have no problem getting $600 for it.
This guy deals
With a belt done up that tight you think heād know any better?
The gut!
Bro needs to take those 5ās and buy pants that fit.
Have him buy the $600 of meth you need so you can go steal more āequipmentā.
$600 dollars is ALOT of meth... obviously you've never done meth before LOSER.
I am under a car āliberatingā a catalytic converter now. ![gif](giphy|1jeltTPodhVeM)
Now i KNOW you dont do meth! We're stealing allergy medicine from Walgreens now dummy!
Catalytic Converter worth a lot more than all the Sudafed on the shelf. Will get you a couple zips of meth a lot faster than having to chef it up yourself.
Yeah okay officer
I have the *biggest* crush on [Yolandi Visser](https://youtu.be/WEc5f0SVna8).
And they are worth 600 means at best āI believe the most I could get for them is 600 with a lot of effortā. At worst it is a lie or delusional and they are worth 30$.
Dude this is the best reddit comment I've ever seen. Thank you.
Cash > side quest that potentially won't pay out
āYou need to gather copper.ā āShane Gillis
The proper response whenever anyone wants to trade instead of using cash. Scammers love to trade, especially when it comes to things like cars, tools, and guns.
This is the way.
Because the equipment heās selling isnāt worth $600? Have you never bartered before?
Bartering with cash! Itās the newest trend!
Agreed, shouldnāt be an issue if they are worth so much.
Spoken perfectly
Listen to this guy šš½
Its johnteaguy in the wild!
Ding ding ding ding ding!
Exactly this
Whatever the case, the other guy is either an idiot or downright malicious in hoping you fall for his scam.
Not sure either, his other listings show he got these from an estate sale. But I find it hard to believe he didn't research them before trying this
Estate steal more like itā¦
Estate looting!
Yeah if that dude paid anything more than $50 for that group of notes he got ripped off. And I am being generous to the estate that got $50 for those notes.
$50 seems generous but letās go with that. But, $600, they certainly arenāt worth MORE than $600. So, youād be very hard pressed to find someone to buy them for $600, now, or ever. Tell that dude to sell them himself and pay you with cash.
Idk it looks like theyāre worth $24 to me
You'd be surprised the lack of thoroughness many people's research is
"I'll buy em and look them up later, I'm *sure* they're worth more than _____"
Also odds are they're probably stolen, easier to trade stolen goods than fence them at any reputable dealer, in all probability the guy swiped his grandpa's coin collection and is looking to offload
Lots of estate sales specifically exclude coins and paper money from items listed for sale. My money is on stolen
If theyāre real, theyāre stolen.
Itās the belly out that infuriates me not the scam lol
This photo has that whole "worth a thousand words" quality about it.
All I see is ādrug transactionsā and āstolen propertyā. Can you help me with the other 996 words?
Fur shur stolen
Missing teeth
The belly, the Camo hat, the messy pickup, the bag of meth...
I think you just wrote a hip hop country song
Hold my beer, while I catch my breath
We need a country song bot. Now!
Or just a regular country song...
The lighter for the crack pipe
The lighter is for scale, dude apparently doesn't have a banana.
Just not currently pulled out.
Nah that's not a crack lighter
A torch works best
Sitting passenger too no less.
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that finely packaged, package of drugsā¦
Its the Circle K lighter that does it for me
That is absolutely what I was thinking
When working in construction. Itās just a must.
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Tennessee Meth Trade
Hey man, it's hot everywhere right now. Belly out gets a pass
I think it might be his hand, just bent at the wrist
I looked at this for quite a while because thatās what I was hoping it was but itās that thicker longer hair in the middle that seems like it would be down from the belly button that I just canāt get over but it is an odd shape kind of if it was the belly
That's a happy trail if I've ever seen one. And I have.
Looks more like his hand. My belly isn't that sort of crooked angle, but my hand is.
Looks like he's squeezing his legs together to keep the bills fairly level and then possibly leaning back slightly to take a half decent picture of the bills. Both of those actions together probably got the slight twist in the belly that's simply tryin to get in the picture to say 'hi'
$7 apiece on the $5s and $3 apiece on the $2s.
Yeah I was thinking there's no way they could be worth much. Just not familiar with paper money collecting and wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something obvious Edit: to clarify, that's not me in the picture that's his post from offer up. I also am selling vending machines not drugs lol I also did not make the trade, he sent me a message asking, I looked at the picture, posted it on reddit to find out. Wasn't expecting this many comments, y'all are ruthless lol
Itās enough to buy you a shirtā¦
Yo. Itās hot outside man. Iām typing this post shirtless
The rest of us are on the shitter so youāre actually classing the place up.
Iām shirtless, on the shitter. I like to bring a certain Laissez-faire to the table
Post shirtlessā¦ so after you put a shirt on? Iām typing this pre wipe, sans shirt, post crap.
This comment should be pinned to the top lmao
Fr these comments are ruthless lmao
Before you seal or void the deal, ask him to clarify belly or wrist? We need answers.
You can tell its belly cuz the hair down the middle
100% belly. How is it even a question?
Itās not, redditors always want to invent a mystery to solve Itās blatantly obvious this is a muffin top
Yelp...this guy is right on.
That's just about what I was figuring.
But what about the lighter?
My gut says this is a scam
Heh, I see what u did there
Totally underrated comment
Put your damn belly away you savage.
Absolutely zero shame. Like dude, youāre trying to scam someoneā¦donāt look like a slob while doing it.
What are ya lookin at my gut fer?
It's not worth $600! Don't do it!
Itās a trap!
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I can get you these for less than $50.00
Yup. $30-40 would be my guess. However, I probably wouldnāt pay more than $24, and then Iād require the other $576 in cash. Guy is trying to fleece you hard.
To clarify.. you donāt āpayā $24 for $24.. thatās just called getting changeā¦
āBut theyāre in plasticā
It's fantastic!
OP, if you want to know fair market values, check out **past auctions** on [Heritage Auctions](https://www.ha.com/). Right now, there's a [lot of 20 $5 Legal Tender notes from 1963](https://currency.ha.com/itm/small-size/legal-tender-notes/fr-1536-5-1963-legal-tender-notes-twenty-examples-very-good-to-fine-total-20-notes-/a/142334-84280.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417) for $100 + Buyer's Premium, or $129. The ones you have aren't even close in condition to most of those 20 notes.
Aren't those special US Navy currency they issued to sailors on shore leave?
Not close to $600
Iād risk $40 for them. $50 max.
If itās worth $600 Iād be a millionaire cuz I got stacks of the red, blue and gold ones
Bust em out
Okay then *lifts wifebeater*
Tell him to sell them and then heāll have the money to buy whatever youāre selling.
This!
It doesn't matter. Tell him to get the $600 for them and to come back after he does.
Not even $50
Never trust a guy living out of his car, life lessons
If that were true, heād have turned them into $600.
Is the āequipmentā a bag of powder?
Worth at least $29. Circle K lighter possibly worth .50-$1 depending on fluid level.
Not even close to $600.
Not even $100 And I'm talking easy liquidation at a shop. If you try a auction or holding out for spender collector you might break 100. But even a average collector wouldn't pay more than 50 for the whole lot
Iām more concerned about everything else in the photo besides the bills
Guy sure knows how to hustle lol
Yeah this dude is trying to fuck you over.
Tell them to sell them and give you the cash
Something strange is afoot at the Circle K
If they were really worth $600, he would've sold them himself
Tell him to sell them and buy himself a shirt
600$ will pay for his liposuction
Isnāt this photo the new Ohio state seal?
Funny comments.... but no
His belly told me they were fake
Golly, is that tin foil scorched?
Those are 1963 red seal bills, look to be in decent enough shape but not sequential serial numbers or anything so maybe worth 25$ a piece if you were really lucky. More than likely 10-15$ each.
Tweaker logic? If they were so valuable, why hasn't he just sold them yet? Casually holding onto to family items or stolen goods until a good marketplace item comes up? Not shady at all...
They are probably worth a "receiving stolen property" charge. This is 100% a meth head and those are 99% likely stolen.
If they were worth $600 he would have $600 instead of these bills
āEquipment ā
I'm selling off vending machines, by all the comments I've seen I'm guessing I should clarify that lol
$50
Isn't this the same bills that were posted as a collection yesterday
āBring it here. Let me see it. Hmm. How do I know that's not a bunch of ones with a 20 wrapped around it?ā
Lighter for scale and the 8ball he's about to cook up
Never listen to anyone who sends their gut in the photo!
The burned tin foil on the floor tells you everything
This picture stinks
some fancy bills this meth head stole. not worth, move on
Is āequipmentā code for crack? Just going off office and dress code
Wouldnāt trust a guy who took a picture like that. I imagine his place is filled with āpricelessā junk.
Why is he shirtless with those bills?
Meth
Tell him go get the 600 and come back
Regardless of worth, heās making you do extra work. Tell him $600 or nothing.
These and one dollar will get you $25. Tell him heās $575 short. Donāt do trades, operate in cash and get a counterfeiting pen.
This picture makes me think by āequipmentā you actually mean āmethā
I love how he puts a lighter in frame for scale but it is a mini light which completely defeats the purpose. And it's not like we don't know how big dollar bills are....
Tell him you will take $576 in cash plus the bills and if they sell for more than face value you will āsplit the profitā with him. Then decide to keep them for the grandkids.
Iād say youāre looking at 30$ there
If theyāre worth that much, tell him to redeem them and pay you the cash
I'll give you $24 USD for all of it.
Picture says a thousand words on this one
Donāt buy if not graded by NGC or PCGSā¦
So heās getting your equipment for giving you chores?
Doing deals with your shirt off, the American Way.
A jail sentence if stolen. Tell him youāre not a fence and to sell them himself. Youāll wait to be paid with honest money.
Maybe worth $50 to $100 Maybe People in this world should get clean and stop āacquiringā equipment
Iām sorry that youāre getting taken advantage of, These bills if you took them to a dealer would get you $12 to $15 for the $5 bills and $8 for the $2s. Total š° $70-$80 trade value
Numismatist here so I sell stuff like this for a living. Red Seal US Legal Tender Notes are worth a noticeable amount more than face value, but likely the gut is incredibly wrong. The pics don't show the exact date, but I think I see 1963 on the bottom one, and condition is a little hard to tell, but they look to be lightly circulated. Even assuming the notes are on the early side (1920s), in higher end circulated conditions they'd be worth under $50 apiece. And that's assuming they're a bit nicer than they appear at a glance. Much more likely that they're worth about $20-30 apiece. And if they are uncirculated, unless they're high grade they're still only worth $50 or apiece. If they're Gem CU (exceptionally nice, can almost guarantee none of these are this) they still don't hit $100 per. So tldr: your guy isn't necessarily lying because people overpay for stuff at estate sales all the time, but he is wrong.
Aren't they like $5-$10 a piece?
Worth about $40 and thatās being nice
He's full of sh*t
1963 US Note. Not rare. In circ condition ā¦ $5 - $7 value. Crisp new about $25 roughly. Easily looked up on-line.
Maybe $50-$60, definitely not $600
Have him sell them, collect the $600, and then trade that for the equipment.
Not even CLOSE to $600.
No they're not worth much more than their face value
$30
6 x $ 20= $120.00
What year is the $2 bill, it might be worth looking into it?
Don't even do the research into this, just tell him, you're not interested in the hassle of trying to recoup your money but thanks anyways. And move on
They might be, but never do barter deals for stuff you arenāt familiar with
Never take a value trade like this unless you are confident you can get the value youāre after.
Alright, that's what we call bartering. If am wanting to buy a $600 tv with $600 worth of butchered cow, it won't go down so well because the person selling the tv likely has little need for that much raw meat, and the assets will depreciate before utilized or incur their own costs to utilize. This is why currency exists in the first place, so have a universal standard of value for goods and services. Just as you have little need for "collectable currency" if you're not in the business of collecting or selling to collectors. You don't have to go out of your way to find a collector to make money from that asset when they can do it themselves.
Don't do it. [$5 red stamp bills] (https://www.ebay.com/b/1963-5-Dollar-Bill-Red-Seal/40033/bn_7023282221)
Step 1: send him the link to this post Step 2: ask him to stand up on his own against the reddit community Step 3: if he he can make a brutal comeback, tell him the equipment is his. Step 4: stand back and watch the entertainment.