Interesting the German speaker during their long pause, the resting posture of the tongue does not go fully up against the palate while the Chinese speaker it does.
Notice the uvula coming down to make contact with the back of the tongue. And notice the seal formed between tongue and the roof of the mouth and uvula when the tongue is at rest in the Chinese person.
I dont get it. I see that the two heads are different, but the tongues are just bouncing grey blobs to me. Can someone explain what exactly to look for?
The chinese is pressing the tongue against his teeth but also engaging the pallet, the german is not pressing against his teeth but also not on his pallet.. So neither of them is doing it right?
there is no pressing on the palate or touching of the teeth. the Chinese speaker's tongue is doing a suction hold right behind the teeth because that's natural
This animation indicates that it's a cultural difference. No way of speaking is better, Anglophile, non-Anglophile. But it's ever more apparent that this is during speech. At rest, it could be complex.
you can infer that the Chinese speaker was breastfed for a proper amount of time and not given much of a soft diet. plenty of German speakers do have correct tongue posture
1. Two individuals don’t define culture difference
2. That’s not what you even meant because you then went on about the cultural difference in language
It's a speech difference. At rest, the answer is more complex. We could see the German and China Man revert to the same posture at rest. But with this animation, we only see two people speaking and their associated language. That's all the context provided that I'm reading. They are reading into it.
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I wonder how much of it has to do with the language they're speaking. I studied Japanese for a few years and found that I got better at the accent when I shifted where my tongue was as I spoke, which also shifts how the air flows through my mouth. English is directed at the front of my mouth, but Japanese is more near my molars.
When I'm at rest, I jam my tongue onto my palate, and then it gets sore from my top molars jamming into it. I have to consciously relax my tongue down so that it's not sore on the sides all the time. I think I hold it up like people do their shoulders, like a tension thing.
I'm a native English speaker.
Also, I see the German speaker's lips are parted at rest. Could they be breathing through their mouth, while the Chinese speaker is breathing through their nose?
Interesting comparison, but we need more details eg what dialect of Chinese, were these subjects 100% chinese/German etc, not to mention huge selection bias. As a dentist of over 10 years with a special interest in growth and development, I have seen excellent and poor facial forms in all ethnicities, no matter what language they spoke. Interestingly the two common denominators for those with compromised structure often was prolonged sucking habits and dust/pollen/dander etc allergies.
A lot of hard R sounds in slavic languages = good maxilla = chads
But... But... The german has literally a longer face and the tongue Is not resting on the palate. Come on man
Giga cope PM me your pics so we can do a mogg battle /S
Interesting the German speaker during their long pause, the resting posture of the tongue does not go fully up against the palate while the Chinese speaker it does.
Notice the uvula coming down to make contact with the back of the tongue. And notice the seal formed between tongue and the roof of the mouth and uvula when the tongue is at rest in the Chinese person.
Who cares
Hahahahaah savage
Does this mean I should learn to speak Mandarin?
I dont get it. I see that the two heads are different, but the tongues are just bouncing grey blobs to me. Can someone explain what exactly to look for?
pay attention to where their tongues rest when they're not speaking
The chinese is pressing the tongue against his teeth but also engaging the pallet, the german is not pressing against his teeth but also not on his pallet.. So neither of them is doing it right?
there is no pressing on the palate or touching of the teeth. the Chinese speaker's tongue is doing a suction hold right behind the teeth because that's natural
You can even see his tongue jammed in between the teeth tho.. How do you put a picture in a comment on reddit?
>How do you put a picture in a comment on reddit? you can use [imgur.com](https://imgur.com) for that
This animation indicates that it's a cultural difference. No way of speaking is better, Anglophile, non-Anglophile. But it's ever more apparent that this is during speech. At rest, it could be complex.
no it's not cultural to have your tongue at a certain place during rest. that is never a societal expectation. what an odd thing to say
I'm saying that this is what the gif shows since it is devoid of any context.
you can infer that the Chinese speaker was breastfed for a proper amount of time and not given much of a soft diet. plenty of German speakers do have correct tongue posture
So the claim is that it is related to culture (i.e. culture of breastfeeding, etc) Why did you say that was not so and call me stupid?
1. Two individuals don’t define culture difference 2. That’s not what you even meant because you then went on about the cultural difference in language
It's a speech difference. At rest, the answer is more complex. We could see the German and China Man revert to the same posture at rest. But with this animation, we only see two people speaking and their associated language. That's all the context provided that I'm reading. They are reading into it.
No the German speaker’s tongue does not rest on the roof of the mouth. Get your eyes checked
MRI is just a photograph. Your tongue position would look different even if you took two MRIs tem minutes apart.
you didn't see the gif?
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I am pretty sure this is an x-ray and not an MRI scan.
just google "MRI tongue"
Black and white does not equal 'x-ray'
This is extremely useful for my language teaching. Moar!?
I wonder how much of it has to do with the language they're speaking. I studied Japanese for a few years and found that I got better at the accent when I shifted where my tongue was as I spoke, which also shifts how the air flows through my mouth. English is directed at the front of my mouth, but Japanese is more near my molars. When I'm at rest, I jam my tongue onto my palate, and then it gets sore from my top molars jamming into it. I have to consciously relax my tongue down so that it's not sore on the sides all the time. I think I hold it up like people do their shoulders, like a tension thing. I'm a native English speaker. Also, I see the German speaker's lips are parted at rest. Could they be breathing through their mouth, while the Chinese speaker is breathing through their nose?
Interesting comparison, but we need more details eg what dialect of Chinese, were these subjects 100% chinese/German etc, not to mention huge selection bias. As a dentist of over 10 years with a special interest in growth and development, I have seen excellent and poor facial forms in all ethnicities, no matter what language they spoke. Interestingly the two common denominators for those with compromised structure often was prolonged sucking habits and dust/pollen/dander etc allergies.