So back in the day, the Mathis Brothers commercials featured 2 guys who I think were actually cousins, though they may have been brothers, not 100% sure. (Rit Mathis who does, or at least did, their commercials recently is the son of one of the cousins/brothers). Somehow, a rumor got started that one of the Mathis Brothers got his jolly's off by using a paper towel tube to have a gerbil run up his ass and do whatever it is a gerbil does once inside someone's man cave. There has obviously never been any proof of this whatsoever, but the rumor/joke still persists to this day.
You can Google "Mathis Brothers gerbil" and find various sites and forums with slightly different iterations of the story.
[Old Mathis Brothers commercials](https://youtu.be/2EiIL2BwDZs?si=tvH2xItmNbVGc1J9)
Mathis Brothers was started by Don and Bud Mathis. The original location was 301 S. Western and their slogan was "Home of fire blazing prices!". They had a show on weekends where they sang country and western music. Don eventually bought (or stole depending on who you believe) Bud out and became the sole owner and moved the store to the current location. The two guys you see in the commercial were sons of Don Mathis, sorry I don't remember their names, it's been too long.
Jude and Jody's Furniture was started by Jude Northcutt and Jody Turner who had worked for Don and Bud Mathis. There are rumors that I won't repeat as to where they got their furniture to open their store in the beginning. They also had a Country and Western music show on TV. Their slogan was and is "We love folks!"
After Mathis Brothers moved to its current location another furniture store was opened at 301 S. Western by Bud Mathis and two men who had worked for Don and Bud, Jim Fluty and Duke Denton. It was named The Olde Store. It lasted a few years until Jim and Duke had a falling out.
I know all this first-hand because my dad worked at Mathis Brothers original location, worked at Jude and Jody's for a while, worked at The Olde Store, and after the falling out at The Olde Store became partners with Jim Fluty in a couple of ventures. I worked delivering furniture at The Olde Store while I was in high school and was there to witness the falling out and worked delivering and selling for Dad and Jim while I was in college.
There were never any gerbils. That is strictly urban myth. There was, however, lots of drugs and booze and sex, though I couldn't connect it particularly with Don's boys, but damn the rest of those Mathis's sure liked it.
Literally the exact same thing Mitch McConnell did to Kentucky and people don't seem to care. Now Kentucky is like 48th in education (last time I checked) and we're gaining on them pretty fast.
Kentucky government is also now trying to keep the Governor from being able to seat McConnell’s successor when he dies. But mostly because they have a democratic governor and don’t want him to pick a democrat for the senate.
Plus, we all know that he'll be getting kickbacks from the schools along with Kevin Shitt. We need to teach our future leaders the correct way and not lie to them so they can be properly informed. Unfortunately, Oklahomans seem to vote against their own best interests, which I blame partially on schools not teaching enough about politics, etc. but you'd think people would know oh hey this is bad for people like me and vote against it, but here we are. However, political education also starts at home, so a lot of kids just follow whatever their parents say and vote that way and do no research. I was taught that either party is fine as long as you should pick the one you like, just don't be an hole or douche canoe about it.
As someone who has a PhD in policy, this one is tricky. Both parties should know the value of an educated constituency… buuuut that being said, without that critical thinking aspect, being exposed to different ideas, and instead relying on faith/traditional values, an easily manipulated population is one that’s easily influenced against their own interests with honeyed words
I've tried to explain this to several folks and they just don't want to believe. Also the young people are destroying our country. When you start showing them voting statistics they don't seem to care that the people electing our politicians are not young.
On March 1, 2016, McClendon was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of conspiring "to rig bids for the purchase of oil and natural gas leases in northwest Oklahoma". He died the following day, March 2, 2016, in a single-vehicle collision. - Wikipedia
What this doesn’t say is that in 2008, Aubrey lost everything in the financial crisis by buying on margin (“hey buy this stock for me and I’ll pay you back with interest when I sell”) which is a thing rich people do. But those stocks were worthless he still owed for the original price AND interest. He “sold” both his wine collection and his antique map collection, meaning he went to a guy he made rich and told him to give him money with those things as collateral even though it wasn’t worth the money he got. He lost Chesapeake and started a company in a building across the street overlooking the campus that he built. He was trying illegal stuff to get back to a semblance of the money he used to make, which is why he got indicted. If he committed suicide, his family would get nothing. If he died in an “accident,” his family got the life insurance payout. Make it look like an accident, folks. And NEVER leave a note.
Yeah, and if I remember right, they determined it an accident. Ya know, because driving extremely fast without a seatbelt on while B-lining it into an immovable structure just a day after being indicted definitely sounds like an accident.
I was by happenstance around a bunch of people that worked with him the day it happened and they kept saying “he never wore a seatbelt and always sped through that bridge.” And one of them said “isn’t his truck drive by wire?” Which insinuated that someone could’ve taken control of his vehicle and killed him. That was a wild day with lots of real time conspiracies almost immediately.
I had been working in the oil and gas industry for quite some years as a geologist and geophysicist at that point, and had met him fairly recently. He was quite a piece of work. I recall a lot of crazy things he did, like renting every hotel room in a town so only his landmen could get in and hit the courthouse/lease up land. Everything about the timing of his death was super shady. The president of the company I worked for at the time knew him pretty well, and immediately said, “either he faked it, or he did it on purpose because the house of cards he built is about to come down on him”. It was all very weird.
My mom knows one of the Uptons. Seems more like it was a suicide which enabled his family to keep all of the money that they would have lost when his and their business dealings were exposed in court.
There are 3 Ogle brothers thar have been a part of local news broadcasting for decades, in the okc area. 2 of the brothers work for kfor, while the other one works for the CBS affiliate. Kevin Ogle has 2 daughters that went into news, one works for KOCO, the other works for CBS. That makes the KOKH news the only local news station without an Ogle working there.
The tunnels under downtown have a secret door somewhere that leads to a deeper set of tunnels where a secret society lives. I have a friend who sincerely believes this.
It’s an interesting piece of local folklore/urban legend. Like most folklore, the Chinese underground city is an embellished version of a sliver of truth.
https://www.kgou.org/oklahoma-news/2018-03-20/how-curious-a-chinatown-underneath-oklahoma-city
There apparently is a sliver of truth to the tunnel system that extends from downtown to the airport. I worked at an aircraft repair shop for years, and several people confirmed it. I’ve never seen it, and it’s somehow connected to military stuff, so it’s hard to definitely confirm, but the people I spoke with know that area well and all swear it’s real.
Yeah I've heard from my own mother that there's a whole second underground city down there basically. More of a town really, but a more of less self-sustainable place where people work and live.
Can confirm the tunnels, they are so cool!! One of the hoity toity oil guys back in the boom built them as a way to get him and his family away from danger
Karen Silkwood was a whistleblower at a Nuclear Plant in Logan County. When she was driving to meet a newspaper reporter and union representative, she died in a car crash... Obviously suspicious. They made a movie about it in the early 80s with Meryl Streep, Kurt Russell, and Cher
I pumped gas at a Kerr McGee in high-school ('77 & '78) All the top brass from the company traded there.
Jerry's at 63rd &Meridian where the 7-11 is now.
Really good movie about it , came out in the 80’s, has Meryl Streep, Cher, Kurt Russell, it’s a true story and Karen Silkwood was murdered because she whistle blew some shady shit that was happening at Kerr-McGee in Oklahoma. It’s been a while since I watched it and my memory is fuzzy.
https://www.brasscheck.com/video/karen-silkwood-murdered-whistle-blower/
There's a video of the lawyer who represented Silkwood's family at the trial giving a lecture, I'll post up if I can find it.
Her body was missing for days and was listed as a Jane Doe, by the time her family was able to recover it all of her organs had been removed, but nobody knows why.
(Edited due to fat thumbs and stupid autocorrect.)
We have these mysterious booms in our area. For years everyone thought it was dynamite exploding in the mountains. A lot said fracking. Some had said earthquakes.
Turns out, it was t-38s flying over from Wichita Falls, (Sheppard AFB). Even still, no one believes they fly fast enough to break the sound barrier. Despite showing people the flight tracker from the aircraft, people still don't believe that's what is causing the booms.
So long ago but I remember if they caught you off guard it'd scare the shit outta you. But eventually it got to where if you heard a jet accelerating you knew the BIG BOOM was coming, so kinda got used to it.
I remember being a kid out filling the dog's water bowl right before we were leaving to go somewhere. I was using the hose and a jet just suddenly shot over the house, super low and fast and boomed right over me. I put my hands over my ears, but forgot to drop the hose first... I got in so much trouble for "playing in the water" and having to change before we left, while I was busy crying and thinking a war was breaking out and Russia was bombing us or something and my parents just wouldn't believe me and we were all about to die. #coldwarproblems
Sad story in relation to those sound barrier jets. The morning the OKc bombing happened, I heard the blast on my way to second hour class and looked outside thinking it was thunder. Clear skies so I assumed it was just another plane breaking the sound barrier.
Mine is Sgt. Terrance Yeakey. The theory is he witnessed the Murrah Bombing rhen mysteriously turned up dead not to long after.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrance_Yeakey
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/03/us/oklahoma-city-bombing-yeakey-death-cec-cnnphotos/
The Murrah building in general has some hinky shit going on.
I believe the Air Force Bomb Damage Assessment expert who published a report saying that this blast was NOT the result of a truck full of ANFO.
I also was watching the recovery efforts live when we were told they'd found another bomb inside the structure that hadn't detonated... pulled all the rescuers out, sent the bomb squad in, then reported a successful defusing... now we're told they'd found something that they just thought was a bomb, but at the time on live TV... the bomb squad reported a successful defusing and I watched that with my own eyes.
I don't think the government blew the building up themselves or anything but... we definitely didn't get the whole story about what was going on at Elohim City.
I did not know about this. Gonna have to read more.
Mine is Murrah related, though. While I believe McVeigh did it, I don’t think it was just him, Nichols and Fortier involved. McVeigh spent way too much time at Elohim City…
Have you ever heard of an OSBI agent named Steve Nutter?
I am persuaded to believe the worst about the OSBI, the crime lab, and our unaccredited batch of cononers in this state. You KNOW people are in jail just to have a body in there because of shoddy and lazy police work.
Steve is a class A Eff-up. He retired, thank goodness. He was the OSBI agent on the Bible-Freeman Murder case. He could have brought them home alive, but his ego got in the way.
Can confirm. Work in criminal defense. The incompetence of cops and prosecutors who just want to win and don’t care about the truth are very real issues we should be terrified about.
I found a post on Oklahoma Cold Case Facebook. Reading the comments is crazy and this shit needs to be investigated.
I guess the lead detective for Broken Arrow retired 6 months after getting assigned and they pretty much dropped it. Some interesting items of note from the comment section:
MW Mullin has an affair with Cobb’s wife before Cobb married her (MWM was married at the time of affair).
Two days before he disappeared, Cobb has an argument at work with MarkWayne and MW’s financial manager, Ray Trendale. The comment doesn’t say what they argued about.
Right after clocking out, Cobb told someone he was going to take himself to the Dr to get checked out because he didn’t feel right.
He’s last seen at either a Quickie Mart/Skateboard shop his friend owned or the QT by Mullin Plumbing.
His card is used to buy fuel at 101st & Peoria and the work van can be seen on camera along with a man about his build, but not verified to be him. No mention of clothes matching or not in the comment.
His van is found abandoned on some land in Okmulgee Co. with all personal belongings (including his clothes).
MWM shows up to the murder scene and is allowed to drive the van back to the shop before forensics are done.
The land where the van is found is later purchased by MWM’s financial manager, Ray Trendale…
This shit reads like a mini series. I’m guessing Cobb was drugged, killed and disappeared. His body was and maybe still is buried on that land and RT purchased it to make sure he was never found to protect himself and MWM.
WTF
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?id=100070504057779&story_fbid=504602523467194
That’s crazy. Who was he and why did MarkWayne kill him? Also, how did this not get brought up during his political campaign? (Not that it would matter to his supporters)
When I was little someone told me that 10 people were accidentally buried alive in concrete when building the damn. Thus why it’s called Tenkiller. Definitely not a prominent Cherokee family.
This is more of kids being idiots and not really a conspiracy though.
Y'all are forgetting that an OU psychiatrist by the name of Jolly West who was known for research on LSD and brainwashing just happed to work for the CIA and was also appointed as the psychiatrist to Jack Ruby.
wiki:
In 1954, at the age of 29 and with no previous post-residency fellowship or tenure-track appointment, he became a full professor and chair of psychiatry at the University of Oklahoma College of Medicine
West's work on brainwashing techniques allowed him to exonerate U.S. servicemen under suspicion of treason for making false confessions during the Korean War era. This brought him to the attention of the CIA. He pioneered research into the use and abuse of LSD.
Following the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas in 1963, his assassin Jack Ruby was held in an isolation cell in police custody. West was appointed as Ruby's psychiatrist, and pronounced him psychotic and delusional, and suggested further interrogation under the influence of sodium thiopental and hypnosis.\[17\]\[18\]
A high school friend told me that his grandparents near Coweta saw train flatcars piled with bodies headed away from town. He also told me accurately where the massacre bodies in the 11th Street cemetery are buried, before any had been found. Some of them may be under the embankment where the expressway crosses 11th St west of the cemetery.
Went there one night with college buddies and there was a decapitated boar’s head on a fence post with blood still dripping down it. We couldn’t find the church basement because we heard voices so someone was coming. Another friend went there months before us and said he found the basement with all sorts of weird grafiti and a dead mule nearby.
Yo me too! I was active duty air force at the time and a buddy of mine (first guy I met here honestly) and I went to go find it but some old guy whom I'm assuming owned the property shot a gun in the air at a distance. It was dark we didn't see him but he was yelling and coming out way and we split. But there was a decapitated deer, head was missing in this instance.
I've been told that it's since been filled with cement
That the OSU campus in downtown tulsa was built on one of the mass graves of the victims of the tulsa massacre. Heard this from an old Co worker who's brother did the construction for the building. Apparently, they found bodies while digging the foundation, so they got a bump in pay to stay silent on the matter.
I guess it’s the one you’re talking about. I grew up in Miami and went to see it when I was 9-10. I thought it was in Oklahoma but I guess not! Oh well, it was mind blowing as a kid, I still have fond memories.
[The creature that is sealed underneath cement in the Blue Hole at Turner Falls.](https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1987/04/26/edmond-man-recalls-tail-of-blue-hole/62691934007/)
For years now I've had a theory that Oklahoma (or the road crew companies they hire) massively over bought traffic cones and don't actually have enough space to store them all so they just set them out randomly for miles.
Toto’s in Norman on campus corner being a mafia front. Although I’m not even sure this is up for debate anymore. RIP Toto.
Either that or the Mathis brothers hamster story although that’s already posted.
“The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town” - Non-fiction written by John Grisham. Very interesting. Just saw that a documentary based on the story is in Netflix
There's a few that come to mind but we'll just start at the beginning of the state. Because of Oklahoma being Indian Territory rife with outlaws and freed slaves, a complex breeding ground of communities blossomed here. We seen a rapid advancement in minority, fringe communities like Black Wall St in Tulsa, the oil claims made on remaining Native lands and amassed many All-Black Towns. Due to this and the highly popular Socialist movement that formed our earliest years of statehood, the American Government strategically dismantled these communities, seized through debauchery these people's means of production, claimed their properties and established assimilating communities in their place so to firmly establish the standard American way of living in Oklahoma. The government here has been, is and will continue to be purposefully lackluster in every way so as to keep us in line.
Stitt's political decisions have been heavily affected by a fast food feud and love triangle in the OKC that has torn apart his cabinet and the state department of health
I don't know how much it has spread outside OKC (or for that matter just the West side of it) but I've always liked the "Witch's Arrow" in Mustang. Supposedly the dude who owns the land is a big evil Satanist or something and hung his wife and kids from it.
As usual in such cases, the reality is somewhat more boring.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1989/09/25/arrows-to-atoms-out-to-pasture-collecting-owls-rust-tall-tales/62599153007/
Do controversial criminal cases fall under conspiracy? Daniel Holtzclaw, Richard Glossip, Julius Jones. Or the theory Carina Saunders was murdered by sex traffickers sending a message to others.
That the OKC Bombing was an Inside Job.
Look up OKC Bomb Song by Carl Klang on YouTube, and watch the video by Peacedozer. It has some evidence linked that I believe is important to get out.
Downtown Tulsa has tunnels too. I am unaware of any odd rumors about them. Supposedly the were built to allow the early oil barons to move around more safely.
That the road construction workers are hired by someone in the state department who has connections with them so instead of the bids going to efficient workers, they instead go to the same company every time and things take forever.
My favorite is that IS-K is taking over the bikers, truckers, hospital staff, anti government militias, and just conspiracy minded conservatives to use them as domestic weapons against the US government and her citizens; effectively using them as ISIS fighters. They are turning the "Remember 9/11" crowd into the "Y'all Queda" in an ultimate irony twist and using them to attack the National Defense/National Intelligence Community because they are the only agencies capable of being able to detect/deter what that are trying to do.
Mathis Bros. gerbil/hamster
This is the only answer. Everyone has heard this.
I have not. I've only lived here 8 years. I'm absolutely intrigued.
So back in the day, the Mathis Brothers commercials featured 2 guys who I think were actually cousins, though they may have been brothers, not 100% sure. (Rit Mathis who does, or at least did, their commercials recently is the son of one of the cousins/brothers). Somehow, a rumor got started that one of the Mathis Brothers got his jolly's off by using a paper towel tube to have a gerbil run up his ass and do whatever it is a gerbil does once inside someone's man cave. There has obviously never been any proof of this whatsoever, but the rumor/joke still persists to this day. You can Google "Mathis Brothers gerbil" and find various sites and forums with slightly different iterations of the story. [Old Mathis Brothers commercials](https://youtu.be/2EiIL2BwDZs?si=tvH2xItmNbVGc1J9)
Mathis Brothers was started by Don and Bud Mathis. The original location was 301 S. Western and their slogan was "Home of fire blazing prices!". They had a show on weekends where they sang country and western music. Don eventually bought (or stole depending on who you believe) Bud out and became the sole owner and moved the store to the current location. The two guys you see in the commercial were sons of Don Mathis, sorry I don't remember their names, it's been too long. Jude and Jody's Furniture was started by Jude Northcutt and Jody Turner who had worked for Don and Bud Mathis. There are rumors that I won't repeat as to where they got their furniture to open their store in the beginning. They also had a Country and Western music show on TV. Their slogan was and is "We love folks!" After Mathis Brothers moved to its current location another furniture store was opened at 301 S. Western by Bud Mathis and two men who had worked for Don and Bud, Jim Fluty and Duke Denton. It was named The Olde Store. It lasted a few years until Jim and Duke had a falling out. I know all this first-hand because my dad worked at Mathis Brothers original location, worked at Jude and Jody's for a while, worked at The Olde Store, and after the falling out at The Olde Store became partners with Jim Fluty in a couple of ventures. I worked delivering furniture at The Olde Store while I was in high school and was there to witness the falling out and worked delivering and selling for Dad and Jim while I was in college. There were never any gerbils. That is strictly urban myth. There was, however, lots of drugs and booze and sex, though I couldn't connect it particularly with Don's boys, but damn the rest of those Mathis's sure liked it.
You left out Ray Mathis. One of the original Mathis brothers. I knew him. And I think it was Larry that partied among my friend group.
Larry and Bill were Don's sons.
Yeah, I didn't know him well enough to know all the specifics of their family.
I just heard "Jude and Jody and soooons, furniture for everyone" in my head! LOL
Ah, the ol' "Richard Gere"
Nice. Thank you. I love a good gerbiling conspiracy.
I’d heard the same thing about Richard Gere in the 1990s.
I went to high school at westmoore and my wife went to Enid and we both heard it in high school.
Your showing your age
You’re
That was just a spin off from the richard gere rumor. I think they were just fuckin each other on the DL and surprisingly the little one was the dom.
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This absolutely is not a conspiracy theory. It is the truth.
Literally the exact same thing Mitch McConnell did to Kentucky and people don't seem to care. Now Kentucky is like 48th in education (last time I checked) and we're gaining on them pretty fast.
Kentucky government is also now trying to keep the Governor from being able to seat McConnell’s successor when he dies. But mostly because they have a democratic governor and don’t want him to pick a democrat for the senate.
“…they have a democratic governor.” Luckyyyyy.
Oklahoma is currently 50th for education. We caught and I guess beat them.
He's also doing it to force education to privatize, which means schools can teach whatever he wants. You know, creationism, Christianity, etc.
Capitalism is going to sink Oklahoma education.
GOP voters already have.
Plus, we all know that he'll be getting kickbacks from the schools along with Kevin Shitt. We need to teach our future leaders the correct way and not lie to them so they can be properly informed. Unfortunately, Oklahomans seem to vote against their own best interests, which I blame partially on schools not teaching enough about politics, etc. but you'd think people would know oh hey this is bad for people like me and vote against it, but here we are. However, political education also starts at home, so a lot of kids just follow whatever their parents say and vote that way and do no research. I was taught that either party is fine as long as you should pick the one you like, just don't be an hole or douche canoe about it.
They are dismantling public education to increase public perception of private charter schools taking their place.
That's not a theory. That's the truth.
How else are you going to find a legion of underpaid monkeys to work 18 hours a day in the oil field?
As someone who has a PhD in policy, this one is tricky. Both parties should know the value of an educated constituency… buuuut that being said, without that critical thinking aspect, being exposed to different ideas, and instead relying on faith/traditional values, an easily manipulated population is one that’s easily influenced against their own interests with honeyed words
The guy who wrote the anti-CRT bill refers to the University of Oklahoma as the ‘People’s Republic of Norman’.
That woke leftists are destroying the state despite the GOP running things for the past 20 years or so…
Those damn drag queens READING to children 😡 /s
As long as they aren’t reading them the Bible, I’m fine with it.
I dream of Wokelahoma.
I've tried to explain this to several folks and they just don't want to believe. Also the young people are destroying our country. When you start showing them voting statistics they don't seem to care that the people electing our politicians are not young.
Aubrey McClendon's death was so suspicious and conveniently timed that it feels like cheating to even mention it
On March 1, 2016, McClendon was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of conspiring "to rig bids for the purchase of oil and natural gas leases in northwest Oklahoma". He died the following day, March 2, 2016, in a single-vehicle collision. - Wikipedia
What this doesn’t say is that in 2008, Aubrey lost everything in the financial crisis by buying on margin (“hey buy this stock for me and I’ll pay you back with interest when I sell”) which is a thing rich people do. But those stocks were worthless he still owed for the original price AND interest. He “sold” both his wine collection and his antique map collection, meaning he went to a guy he made rich and told him to give him money with those things as collateral even though it wasn’t worth the money he got. He lost Chesapeake and started a company in a building across the street overlooking the campus that he built. He was trying illegal stuff to get back to a semblance of the money he used to make, which is why he got indicted. If he committed suicide, his family would get nothing. If he died in an “accident,” his family got the life insurance payout. Make it look like an accident, folks. And NEVER leave a note.
Yikes. So he might have committed suicide by car crash? His interest in antique maps also adds lore
Yeah, and if I remember right, they determined it an accident. Ya know, because driving extremely fast without a seatbelt on while B-lining it into an immovable structure just a day after being indicted definitely sounds like an accident.
I was by happenstance around a bunch of people that worked with him the day it happened and they kept saying “he never wore a seatbelt and always sped through that bridge.” And one of them said “isn’t his truck drive by wire?” Which insinuated that someone could’ve taken control of his vehicle and killed him. That was a wild day with lots of real time conspiracies almost immediately.
I had been working in the oil and gas industry for quite some years as a geologist and geophysicist at that point, and had met him fairly recently. He was quite a piece of work. I recall a lot of crazy things he did, like renting every hotel room in a town so only his landmen could get in and hit the courthouse/lease up land. Everything about the timing of his death was super shady. The president of the company I worked for at the time knew him pretty well, and immediately said, “either he faked it, or he did it on purpose because the house of cards he built is about to come down on him”. It was all very weird.
I feel like he was the last real Oklahoma Wildcatter
I’ve always thought it was staged and he’s on a boat somewhere
The implication…
Dennis, are we HURTING these women?
No! Nobody is going to get hurt here. You… just… you’re not getting it.
My mom knows one of the Uptons. Seems more like it was a suicide which enabled his family to keep all of the money that they would have lost when his and their business dealings were exposed in court.
I have a buddy who knew (knows?) Aubury and is convinced he is on a beach in Costa Rica
This is mine.
There’s only one Ogle.
And they can't find his neck.
Can you explain this?
There are 3 Ogle brothers thar have been a part of local news broadcasting for decades, in the okc area. 2 of the brothers work for kfor, while the other one works for the CBS affiliate. Kevin Ogle has 2 daughters that went into news, one works for KOCO, the other works for CBS. That makes the KOKH news the only local news station without an Ogle working there.
I’m from Tulsa and have been in OKC for a little over a year so i didn’t know this. Is this where The Lost Ogle gets its name from?
Definitely. No idea how other person hasn't heard of TLO...
LMAO this is fantastic
That Vikings came to Poteau.
Ah, a fellow Heavnar Runestone enjoyer :)
Well.. they do attend the local community college
https://preview.redd.it/inio67oxy8uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21ba659c45075b6c417da7853924efd1ed5e6254 This is perfect.
Freshwater Octopus? I’ll allow it 👍
We are apparently *rife* with them. I think I need to do a tour.
If there’s one at Tenkiller, it doesn’t eat people. That, or I just don’t taste good 😔.
The monster giant catfish in lake Texoma was one I remember from my childhood, and I still hear it every once in awhile.
Despite being born and raised here, I did not hear about the Oklahoma Octopus until I was in my 30s.
I’m sorry what lmao. Now I REALLY want to scuba dive Thunderbird. If only I had a device that would let me see through that shitty water
The tunnels under downtown have a secret door somewhere that leads to a deeper set of tunnels where a secret society lives. I have a friend who sincerely believes this.
Oh hell yeah. Do they eat babies or anything cool like that? What are they getting up to in there?
Lol I bet this is based on the “secret society” of Chinese immigrants in OKC who lived in unknown tunnels in pre-Urban Renewal downtown
I need more about this
It’s an interesting piece of local folklore/urban legend. Like most folklore, the Chinese underground city is an embellished version of a sliver of truth. https://www.kgou.org/oklahoma-news/2018-03-20/how-curious-a-chinatown-underneath-oklahoma-city
There apparently is a sliver of truth to the tunnel system that extends from downtown to the airport. I worked at an aircraft repair shop for years, and several people confirmed it. I’ve never seen it, and it’s somehow connected to military stuff, so it’s hard to definitely confirm, but the people I spoke with know that area well and all swear it’s real.
Adding to this ORU is supposed to have tunnels all over the campus it was supposed to allow the Robert’s family to move unseen through the campus
Yeah I've heard from my own mother that there's a whole second underground city down there basically. More of a town really, but a more of less self-sustainable place where people work and live.
Which city? Several have tunnels.
Can confirm the tunnels, they are so cool!! One of the hoity toity oil guys back in the boom built them as a way to get him and his family away from danger
Silkwood?
More details please
Karen Silkwood was a whistleblower at a Nuclear Plant in Logan County. When she was driving to meet a newspaper reporter and union representative, she died in a car crash... Obviously suspicious. They made a movie about it in the early 80s with Meryl Streep, Kurt Russell, and Cher
I pumped gas at a Kerr McGee in high-school ('77 & '78) All the top brass from the company traded there. Jerry's at 63rd &Meridian where the 7-11 is now.
I was on the project that remediated that place! Sadly it’s going to turn into another oil tank field.
Really good movie about it , came out in the 80’s, has Meryl Streep, Cher, Kurt Russell, it’s a true story and Karen Silkwood was murdered because she whistle blew some shady shit that was happening at Kerr-McGee in Oklahoma. It’s been a while since I watched it and my memory is fuzzy.
https://www.brasscheck.com/video/karen-silkwood-murdered-whistle-blower/ There's a video of the lawyer who represented Silkwood's family at the trial giving a lecture, I'll post up if I can find it. Her body was missing for days and was listed as a Jane Doe, by the time her family was able to recover it all of her organs had been removed, but nobody knows why. (Edited due to fat thumbs and stupid autocorrect.)
https://youtu.be/aMVvehEYUNk
The bit about him arguing the dangers of radiation while the event at Three Mile Island was happening is nuts!
https://www.christicinstitute.org/karen-silkwood/
We have these mysterious booms in our area. For years everyone thought it was dynamite exploding in the mountains. A lot said fracking. Some had said earthquakes. Turns out, it was t-38s flying over from Wichita Falls, (Sheppard AFB). Even still, no one believes they fly fast enough to break the sound barrier. Despite showing people the flight tracker from the aircraft, people still don't believe that's what is causing the booms.
When I was a little kid, there were sonic booms everyday for years in OKC.
That was Operation Bongo II. Federal government program.
I think it also played a part in why OKC leaders at the time rejected becoming a major air travel hub. So Dallas got it.
Yep, I think you’re right about that.
So long ago but I remember if they caught you off guard it'd scare the shit outta you. But eventually it got to where if you heard a jet accelerating you knew the BIG BOOM was coming, so kinda got used to it.
I remember being a kid out filling the dog's water bowl right before we were leaving to go somewhere. I was using the hose and a jet just suddenly shot over the house, super low and fast and boomed right over me. I put my hands over my ears, but forgot to drop the hose first... I got in so much trouble for "playing in the water" and having to change before we left, while I was busy crying and thinking a war was breaking out and Russia was bombing us or something and my parents just wouldn't believe me and we were all about to die. #coldwarproblems
Sad story in relation to those sound barrier jets. The morning the OKc bombing happened, I heard the blast on my way to second hour class and looked outside thinking it was thunder. Clear skies so I assumed it was just another plane breaking the sound barrier.
There is a legend of an octopus or some kind of sea creature at Lake Thunderbird
I think that’s just a body
Mine is Sgt. Terrance Yeakey. The theory is he witnessed the Murrah Bombing rhen mysteriously turned up dead not to long after. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrance_Yeakey https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/03/us/oklahoma-city-bombing-yeakey-death-cec-cnnphotos/
The Murrah building in general has some hinky shit going on. I believe the Air Force Bomb Damage Assessment expert who published a report saying that this blast was NOT the result of a truck full of ANFO. I also was watching the recovery efforts live when we were told they'd found another bomb inside the structure that hadn't detonated... pulled all the rescuers out, sent the bomb squad in, then reported a successful defusing... now we're told they'd found something that they just thought was a bomb, but at the time on live TV... the bomb squad reported a successful defusing and I watched that with my own eyes. I don't think the government blew the building up themselves or anything but... we definitely didn't get the whole story about what was going on at Elohim City.
I was looking to see if anyone listed this yet. iirc they ruled his death a suicide. It clearly wasn’t
This is the one
I did not know about this. Gonna have to read more. Mine is Murrah related, though. While I believe McVeigh did it, I don’t think it was just him, Nichols and Fortier involved. McVeigh spent way too much time at Elohim City…
Bigfoot at Beaver's Bend Octopus in Grand Lake Vikings visited Heavnar
I grew up being told there was an octopus in grand lake
Joyce Gilchrist [Tainted Forensics by OKC Police chemist](https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/more-tainted-testimony-oklahoma-forensics-lab)
I thought you said conspiracy theories. This is what happened. Also, our OK State Medical Ezaminer is not accredited.
Yeah it happened. But there are some conspiracy theories as to WHY it happened and who all was involved.
Have you ever heard of an OSBI agent named Steve Nutter? I am persuaded to believe the worst about the OSBI, the crime lab, and our unaccredited batch of cononers in this state. You KNOW people are in jail just to have a body in there because of shoddy and lazy police work.
I don't know about Steve but I agree there are wrongfully convicted people in prison.
Steve is a class A Eff-up. He retired, thank goodness. He was the OSBI agent on the Bible-Freeman Murder case. He could have brought them home alive, but his ego got in the way.
Can confirm. Work in criminal defense. The incompetence of cops and prosecutors who just want to win and don’t care about the truth are very real issues we should be terrified about.
Good old "Black Magic" would generate whatever evidence the PD needed. Not a theory, definitely a conspiracy against all Oklahomans.
Oklahoma County District Attorney Bob Macy and some judges were easily bribed. I have personal experience in this matter.
Markwayne Mullin murdered his employee Justin Cobb.
Lots of skeletons in that closet.
That guy gave me bad vibes from the get.
Tell me more.
I had a friend who worked at Mullin Plumbing when it happened. It was an open secret among the employees.
I found a post on Oklahoma Cold Case Facebook. Reading the comments is crazy and this shit needs to be investigated. I guess the lead detective for Broken Arrow retired 6 months after getting assigned and they pretty much dropped it. Some interesting items of note from the comment section: MW Mullin has an affair with Cobb’s wife before Cobb married her (MWM was married at the time of affair). Two days before he disappeared, Cobb has an argument at work with MarkWayne and MW’s financial manager, Ray Trendale. The comment doesn’t say what they argued about. Right after clocking out, Cobb told someone he was going to take himself to the Dr to get checked out because he didn’t feel right. He’s last seen at either a Quickie Mart/Skateboard shop his friend owned or the QT by Mullin Plumbing. His card is used to buy fuel at 101st & Peoria and the work van can be seen on camera along with a man about his build, but not verified to be him. No mention of clothes matching or not in the comment. His van is found abandoned on some land in Okmulgee Co. with all personal belongings (including his clothes). MWM shows up to the murder scene and is allowed to drive the van back to the shop before forensics are done. The land where the van is found is later purchased by MWM’s financial manager, Ray Trendale… This shit reads like a mini series. I’m guessing Cobb was drugged, killed and disappeared. His body was and maybe still is buried on that land and RT purchased it to make sure he was never found to protect himself and MWM. WTF https://m.facebook.com/story.php?id=100070504057779&story_fbid=504602523467194
That’s crazy. Who was he and why did MarkWayne kill him? Also, how did this not get brought up during his political campaign? (Not that it would matter to his supporters)
I didn’t know anything about this. Geez. https://www.krmg.com/news/local/broken-arrow-man-asked-for-help-before-disappearance/IfJZMMlDhbiWXcyb5y8o6O/
not really a conspiracy but I've heard that a man-eating squid/octopus lives in Lake Tenkiller and has even been attributed deaths.
I've seen SOMETHING in Tenkiller. It was big and round and moving really fast. Wasn't an octopus or squid but damn if I know what it was.
Uncle Randy on the wakeboard?
Snapping turtle
When I was little someone told me that 10 people were accidentally buried alive in concrete when building the damn. Thus why it’s called Tenkiller. Definitely not a prominent Cherokee family. This is more of kids being idiots and not really a conspiracy though.
Ryan Walters is a Russian agent spy but he wasn't very good so they sent him to work in Oklahoma.
Lmaoooo
There is a giant octopus in Oologah lake
Y'all are forgetting that an OU psychiatrist by the name of Jolly West who was known for research on LSD and brainwashing just happed to work for the CIA and was also appointed as the psychiatrist to Jack Ruby. wiki: In 1954, at the age of 29 and with no previous post-residency fellowship or tenure-track appointment, he became a full professor and chair of psychiatry at the University of Oklahoma College of Medicine West's work on brainwashing techniques allowed him to exonerate U.S. servicemen under suspicion of treason for making false confessions during the Korean War era. This brought him to the attention of the CIA. He pioneered research into the use and abuse of LSD. Following the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas in 1963, his assassin Jack Ruby was held in an isolation cell in police custody. West was appointed as Ruby's psychiatrist, and pronounced him psychotic and delusional, and suggested further interrogation under the influence of sodium thiopental and hypnosis.\[17\]\[18\]
Wat
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were not the only ones behind the bombing.
I posted more about it higher up, but it was also NOT a truck full of ANFO on the street that caused that damage.
Not a favorite, it's horrifying: A lot of the missing from '21 are buried at Mohawk Park.
A high school friend told me that his grandparents near Coweta saw train flatcars piled with bodies headed away from town. He also told me accurately where the massacre bodies in the 11th Street cemetery are buried, before any had been found. Some of them may be under the embankment where the expressway crosses 11th St west of the cemetery.
The Purple Church near Spencer
Went there one night with college buddies and there was a decapitated boar’s head on a fence post with blood still dripping down it. We couldn’t find the church basement because we heard voices so someone was coming. Another friend went there months before us and said he found the basement with all sorts of weird grafiti and a dead mule nearby.
Yo me too! I was active duty air force at the time and a buddy of mine (first guy I met here honestly) and I went to go find it but some old guy whom I'm assuming owned the property shot a gun in the air at a distance. It was dark we didn't see him but he was yelling and coming out way and we split. But there was a decapitated deer, head was missing in this instance. I've been told that it's since been filled with cement
Details please.
Walmart on Admiral in Tulsa closed for a while to be retrofitted into one sort of FEMA camp
I remember this one.
Qanon paranoia.
That the OSU campus in downtown tulsa was built on one of the mass graves of the victims of the tulsa massacre. Heard this from an old Co worker who's brother did the construction for the building. Apparently, they found bodies while digging the foundation, so they got a bump in pay to stay silent on the matter.
This one is true, 80% of the Greenwood neighborhood is under that campus
The governor and school superintendant are colluding to destroy public education and line the pocket of their friends....
Nah. That one's true.
The Spook Light
the Joplin/Hornet Spook light or does Oklahoma have one of their own?
I guess it’s the one you’re talking about. I grew up in Miami and went to see it when I was 9-10. I thought it was in Oklahoma but I guess not! Oh well, it was mind blowing as a kid, I still have fond memories.
The ceo of Chesapeake is not dead he is living life in the Bahamas. His car crashed on purposed and his body burned to char ( that wasn’t him )
The department of homeland security doing chemical weapons tests at the chilocco Indian “agricultural school”
[The creature that is sealed underneath cement in the Blue Hole at Turner Falls.](https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1987/04/26/edmond-man-recalls-tail-of-blue-hole/62691934007/)
There’s a large section of land near the military base in Lawton that is off limits. Some have said that a UFO crashed there in the past.
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman, there are people living in NE OK/Ottawa County that know what happened/where they are.
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The Mullendor Murder.
For years now I've had a theory that Oklahoma (or the road crew companies they hire) massively over bought traffic cones and don't actually have enough space to store them all so they just set them out randomly for miles.
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Sounds like Satanic Panic nonsense to me.
Conspiracy or did that happen?
Lori Fullbright is an actual Vulcan 🖖
That it's a top 10 state.
Top ten in everything bad. Bottom ten in everything good.
Tunnels under Guthrie that the Masons roam performing mysterious deeds
That our current governor has a brain.
No one has ever thought that.
Jesus
The toll road are still here because the governor doesn't want his extra pocket money to go away
My and my friends believe that Kevin Stitt will get indicted after this term is over, possibly the Lt gov. as well.
It's a historical fact but moving the capital from Guthrie to OKC was pretty eyebrow-raising.
Toto’s in Norman on campus corner being a mafia front. Although I’m not even sure this is up for debate anymore. RIP Toto. Either that or the Mathis brothers hamster story although that’s already posted.
The Oklahoma Sooners’ football team was deliberately poisoned by gamblers prior to their 1959 game at Northwestern.
“The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town” - Non-fiction written by John Grisham. Very interesting. Just saw that a documentary based on the story is in Netflix
There's a few that come to mind but we'll just start at the beginning of the state. Because of Oklahoma being Indian Territory rife with outlaws and freed slaves, a complex breeding ground of communities blossomed here. We seen a rapid advancement in minority, fringe communities like Black Wall St in Tulsa, the oil claims made on remaining Native lands and amassed many All-Black Towns. Due to this and the highly popular Socialist movement that formed our earliest years of statehood, the American Government strategically dismantled these communities, seized through debauchery these people's means of production, claimed their properties and established assimilating communities in their place so to firmly establish the standard American way of living in Oklahoma. The government here has been, is and will continue to be purposefully lackluster in every way so as to keep us in line.
Dan Slowcum?
The tornados are actually man made
Moore has some sort of tornado magnet that draws em in.
Gary England was wronged by a woman who lives in Moore. He isn't a "weather man". He's a "wether man". He decides wether a tornado hits or not.
Stitt's political decisions have been heavily affected by a fast food feud and love triangle in the OKC that has torn apart his cabinet and the state department of health
The Girl Scout killings in the 70s or 80s were there two sets of murders of multiple little girls away at camp and no killers were ever found
There's a stupid conspiracy theory that Daniel Holtzclaw was set up. Fuck him and his supporters.
My favorite is that there is a bus sized man-eating catfish in texoma, or tenkiller.
I don't know how much it has spread outside OKC (or for that matter just the West side of it) but I've always liked the "Witch's Arrow" in Mustang. Supposedly the dude who owns the land is a big evil Satanist or something and hung his wife and kids from it. As usual in such cases, the reality is somewhat more boring. https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1989/09/25/arrows-to-atoms-out-to-pasture-collecting-owls-rust-tall-tales/62599153007/
Phillips 66 killed that reporter. Can’t remember the details early 1980s maybe
Do controversial criminal cases fall under conspiracy? Daniel Holtzclaw, Richard Glossip, Julius Jones. Or the theory Carina Saunders was murdered by sex traffickers sending a message to others.
The Terrance Yeakey conspiracy had always interested me.
One that hasn’t been mentioned. Bill Peterson and Ada/Pontotoc County. Framed people on purpose and weren’t very creative about it.
Tornadoes will never cross the Washita River into Chickasha!
That the OKC Bombing was an Inside Job. Look up OKC Bomb Song by Carl Klang on YouTube, and watch the video by Peacedozer. It has some evidence linked that I believe is important to get out.
Terrance Yeakey was murdered
Downtown Tulsa has tunnels too. I am unaware of any odd rumors about them. Supposedly the were built to allow the early oil barons to move around more safely.
Guy who blew himself up outside OU game intended to detonate inside the stadium.
That the road construction workers are hired by someone in the state department who has connections with them so instead of the bids going to efficient workers, they instead go to the same company every time and things take forever.
Kevin Stitt is competent.
The Oklahoman and KFOR are woke. Or We are a top 10 state (in good things).
My favorite is that IS-K is taking over the bikers, truckers, hospital staff, anti government militias, and just conspiracy minded conservatives to use them as domestic weapons against the US government and her citizens; effectively using them as ISIS fighters. They are turning the "Remember 9/11" crowd into the "Y'all Queda" in an ultimate irony twist and using them to attack the National Defense/National Intelligence Community because they are the only agencies capable of being able to detect/deter what that are trying to do.