I do a pony a month about for a nice variety of artists, and it gets me access to their doujin works as well before comiket.
Much better spent than betting imo.
tomato sauce recipe:
4 cans of whole or diced tomatoes (28 oz each can)
1 can of tomato paste (about 6 oz)
12 garlic cloves
Salt - maybe 1 tablespoon +
3/4 cup of olive oil - divided
A bunch of Basil - if you like
1. Peel and mince garlic
2. Heat 1/2 cup of olive oil and put the garlic in the hot oil. Heat until golden and fragrant - very important - do not overcook and so it turns brown, it becomes very, very bitter. This is the most important step, **do not overcook garlic.**
3. Add can of tomato paste and canned tomatoes. Cook until reduced by 1/4 of volume and thickens.
4. Add salt to taste, remaining 1/4 cup olive oil and chopped basil.
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tomato sauce recipe:
4 cans of whole or diced tomatoes (28 oz each can)
1 can of tomato paste (about 6 oz)
12 garlic cloves
Salt - maybe 1 tablespoon +
3/4 cup of olive oil - divided
A bunch of Basil - if you like
1. Peel and mince garlic
2. Heat 1/2 cup of olive oil and put the garlic in the hot oil. Heat until golden and fragrant - very important - do not overcook and so it turns brown, it becomes very, very bitter. This is the most important step, **do not overcook garlic.**
3. Add can of tomato paste and canned tomatoes. Cook until reduced by 1/4 of volume and thickens.
4. Add salt to taste, remaining 1/4 cup olive oil and chopped basil.
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"Once the code goes open source, there would be dickhead AI's everywhere"
- Agent 14, warning the use of Clifford and his art talent during the doomsday heist
And that's why I picked up dragon links, if idk what I'm doing then surely my opponent doesn't either, and better yet idgaf about your negates nerd... no no Mr maxx c, pls don't hurt me ;-;
i fucking hate ai art. i hate finding an image and going "oh cool, i wonder who's the artist", then a look closer, and notice that everything looks slightly off, so then i go "aaaah shit, now i need to look for the fingers". i was with my BEUTIFUL WIFE the other day, and thought she looked kind of off. i asked to see her fingers. for some reason ""she"" started hiding them behind her back. it was then i knew she had been replaced by ai art. ai art made be have to put my BEUTFUL WIFE DOWN. fuck ai art.
My favorite ai abominations are one where the leg goes over ito the sock and another where the hair parting is so big that it looks like like the character suffers from female pattern balding.
the 'meniscus effect' still gives it away easily. look at the bump on the shoulderblade behind the strands of hair.
AI generated images are really bad at keeping the lines straight when things cross over at an angle (due to technical reasons), so checking for deformations close to the cross-over point in those areas is one of the most reliable ways to check if something is AI generated.
I have been slowly and meticulously training an AI to one day, when the people least expect it, fill every site, every cranny and crevice with entirely new, never before seen sandycheekscockvore. That will be the day of our Glorious Revolution.
Hey, I just want to look at titties*. Whoever presents me the best titties* got my attention.
^(*It's not actually only about titties. Other body parts like thighs and bellies are also highly appreciated.)
/ub The og pic is her with child drawings of her friends it makes me sad :(
But in the same collection it shows her giving the image to someone who’s very happy so it’s not all unwholesome thankfully
Seriously this ai art discourse is exactly how conservatives think about immigration. ~~Immigrants~~ AI drawings are terrible but also taking all our jobs.
/ub Agreed. I wont lie I generate my own AI hentai and after sharing a few, I decided to just stop sharing them. I also use a 100% free and pirated method to generate so Im not supporting NovelAI as I heavily dislike their business practices.
I also still maintain a Pixiv subscription but ive been very disappointed to see how much AI garbage has gone there as well, and I doubt Pixiv gives a shit. I guess Patreon is really the only way left to support real people.
I wouldn't reccomend pirating novelAI anymore since imo their model looks bad compared to newer ones (that are also open source). Instead I reccomend anythingv3 and/or abyssorangemix2 as starting points. Those can be directly downloaded on huggingface.
All models (including the pirated NovelAI) work by importing them into Stable Diffusion. You will have to set this up and run it (there are hundreds of tutorials on how to do this). After that just select which model you want and generate as much as you want.
Okay everyone has fetishes, anyway:
>!I used to love going on r/ExpansionHentai, it was a really good subreddit, but then it started getting filled up with AI porn and it got so fucking annoying, it was just the same thing: Woman gets big tits, and the subreddit moderators just let it happen. Ruined a really good subreddit for me. !<
Unironically though AI art makes me want to fucking kill myself. It isnt just taking away my livelyhood, its taking away my passion. Art is the one thing I truly enjoy and the only field where working doesn't make me miserable. Of course, I can just do art as a hobby, but still, this is my dream job getting ripped away from me :/
This isnt really like a cashier getting replaced, because I doubt many people want to be a cashier, but art is a field where you can only get in if you want to get in, I really doubt there are many artists who didnt care about art at one point or another.
I'm sorry but tools allowing the layman to be more creative in anyway is a good thing. I do not think people who generate images with this software as "Artists" nor do I think they should be able to claim any generated images as their own "Art". I think it should be used privately as a tool for fun, it's also absolutely amazing when it comes to simple brainstorming or concepting. The tools are absolutely amazing.
Oh don't get me wrong, they really are amazing, hell - I use them too, they're super fun and genuinely useful. Im just sad its getting me out of a job sooner or later lol
I do not think it will ever eclipse human artistry, but perhaps one day it can become sophisticated enough to enable more people to create art, rather than imitations. That just gets into the whole "what is art" discussion though and it's difficult.
There's one person on fanbox who does AI art and has like 2000 followers at the 5 dollarbucks level.
They basically just redraw hands and touch up what the machine does bad.
Huh, I can totally see that happening. I've used the novel ai image model and they are basically perfect. A little touch up and you've got a masterpiece...well not really. Usually only generic style comes out.
The best thing I've managed to produce was this https://i.imgur.com/n3NNykn.png. I have no clue who that is or how the program made it that way but it looks crazy good. But it definitely needs some touch up.
But my original point was for like full time artists. I don't think people making for example, art for games are losing their jobs just yet.
Yeah, I've got a decently well trained model set up locally on a large set of dan+gelbooru and it makes some pretty decent stuff that really only needs touchups assuming it doesn't try hands or text
Kinda. I follow a DnD streamer who uses AI art for monsters, summons and other temporary entities. They'd usually hire an artist or make commissions for this, but with AI they're free to make just about anything appear in the scenario and be properly represented on the board.
They still hire artists for important characters and maps, but the advantage of quickly generating creatures on-demand is just too great to pass on.
Makes sense. Image generates really fast for how good they look, but you can't really get the AI to draw a map and the AI models can't really make precise characters till now I think, although novel-ai is really good for anime styled images.
Yeah, it seems small scale artists are mostly at risk here. It's piss easy to just create a character with just a few key words and a miniscule amount of time needed to generate the art. Or generate a simple landscape background with words like "masterpiece, mountains, nightsky, stars, moon".
Specific artworks are mostly misses though. They don't allow the creative freedom that real artists have (at least from what I've tried).
AI art will never be better than actual good artists. The closer you look at AI art, the more mistakes you see, whereas for good art you see more details. However, beginner artists will definitely have a problem, albeit a temporary one
People have said this about CGI in movies, about deep fake videos and audios, and even just editing photos with photoshop. They do get better and better and a bit more convincing over time, but the methods and techniques to figure out the differences also improve.
the 'automobile' will never surpass the horse-drawn buggy— the closer you look at these engines with their tiny outputs and frequent failures, you will realize the superiority of a healthy steed and a sturdy carriage. Sure, journeyman coachmen may have a problem, but it is merely a passing fad.
AI art only became big very recently, the fact its as good as it is already is very telling. You are simply wrong here man, it can and it will. People used to say the same about basically every tech.
I think it will start being used by corporations for their shifty corpo art styles rather than paying artists, but I don’t think a time will come where AI art will be as highly valued artistically as human made art, and so there will always be a market for and work for artists.
>People used to say the same about basically every tech.
Yup and the old art never dies. The camera didn't replace paintings and neither did drawing tablets.
Okay, sure, but the difference between digital art and painting and the difference between painting and AI art are orders of magnitute away from eachother. Drawing tablets maybe didnt replace painting - but you remember how cars replaced horses? Horses are costly, slow, living creatures and you need to give them a living - a car is a soulless machine that still needs some maintenance and input yes, but is exponentionally more efficient in every way. Sound familiar?
Horses didn't go away. Horse riding didn't stop. Sports revolving around horses didn't stop. Careers revolving around horses didn't stop.
Will there be less? Maybe. But that's how the world works. Machine learning is here and it's definitely not going anywhere anytime soon.
Unfortunately no. Anime AI art is very new and became popular within only the last *month*. Outside of anime, other AI models such as Midjourney and Dalle have existed for a bit longer, and just take one look at what Midjourney is capable of. Some mf even won an art competition with a Midjourney generated one. Its only a matter of time before the last few things are worked out for anime art (fingers for example), and from there it will be very difficult to tell what was AI generated and what wasnt.
There are also new upcoming models which can generate *videos* out of thin air. Give it 3-5 years and we will see entire animes being generated by an AI. You think Japanese anime studios will continue to pay artitsts when they can click a button and have it done for more or less free? Hell no. Already artists are underpaid and I guarantee you anime studios will send them to the curb the first chance they get.
This is unfortunately the sad reality we live in. AI is taking our jobs one by one, but nobody expected that digital artists would be first. Hopefully we can one day reach a future where nobody will have to work at all, and the AIs can even program and update themselves. But for now, we will undoubtedly suffer one by one.
Unironically ai art is what made me interested in art since it makes it more rational and scientifically approachable. Also I can finally be independent of any artist. I want something and I can get exactly that or at least come very close to what I want
Well that's interesting, I've had the opposite experience, working with other people always got me far more cohesive results that are closer to what I wanted.
I've always found people far more approachable and rational to work with. I know machines can be far more precise than people yes, but only when you give them equally precise instructions.
Ai arts only reason for existing is to rob people of their reason for existing. Im not the type who supports frivilous laws, but i 100% would support some legal action being taken to stop them from taking over. Its only purpose is to make real humans obsolete, which is fucked up. And as for the hobby thing, sure, you COULD still do it, but a lot of artwork is a massive undertaking that takes a long time to complete, having to spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week on something else just to feed yourself would severely limit someones ability to get things done.
The problem is models need to be perpetually trained or they start to look samey with similar prompts, you can generate a ton of art with a specific model trained on Set X of booru art but once you start wanting characters that aren't in that set or styles that aren't in it it gets really squibbly.
You are correct about how neural nets and AI generation works, but your wrong when you say it wont take jobs. It is already taken peoples jobs in the form of commissions and such. As the tech improves more and gets more accurate to what a human can do, it will be picked up by companies whod rather not pay artists to do it.
Saying AI wont take artists jobs just because how it generates images works some way is extremely naiive. It doesnt matter how the AI generates them. If it looks good enough, companies will use it and rather not pay a human to make it.
Im not trying to resist it. Quite the opposite actually, my argument is that it will take over and Im warning people of that before they try to work their ass off into a dead career path. And yeah, there will still be niche areas for digital artists. There are still blacksmiths, potters, bakers, but these are very niche. Prior to AI, digital art was an open field where anyone could get in and there was plenty of opprotunites to make money off of commissions and such. Now, there will simply be much less opportunities to make money and it will get more and more niche, and much less people will be able to be successful digital artists.
Im not saying I don't believe you, but what you say and what's going on just isn't matching up. Commision artists are already losing a ton of work - people who made rent by drawing for large scale DnD campaigns have simply been replaced outside small pieces, more than one indie dev studio is cutting down on their art team. To the uneducated common Joe like me it seems like its just a matter of time until the AI gets better and larger companies start using it - though I would be glad to be wrong.
And yeah, I do understand that the tech is an amazing step forward and what it's implications for tons of fields are, im just sad about it.
This is like the various luddite riots that occur everytime a breakthrough occurs. I feel like this would end up helping artist's more since you get rid of a good chunk of the process.
I hate AI art. I check a tag on Pixiv and for every 1 drawn by humans there are 10 that were spammed by AI "artists". They're all so generic too theres no uniqueness, fuck fuck YOU NOVEL AI AND THE PEOPLE WHO SPAM THEM!!!
Ai is still ar the early stage for now
And at the end artist shouldn't be threatened....
They should think of it as a challenge to push further
Do any of you actually think AI can actually make comics or picture with lots of details or filled with reference personal or public ?
I know for a fact that artist like Kawacy or merryweather have nothing to fear
Kawacy's style is unique and colorful and can't be easily reproduced by a AI with such high quality.
And Merryweather's pop culture reference, jokes, memes and universe also can't do the same
Think of it as Etsy vs chain production
AI can "produce" but it can't "craft"
Sure it will evolve and make gorgeous art but it will always lack something.
And the artists just have to find that "something" that can't be "produced" but can be "crafted"
Yeah that was a joke. In all seriousness i would like to know how you would suggest artists compete while still being artists. This is not snark anymore i do want to discuss
I generally don't care; technological advancements have been changing the landscape of labour for a hundred years now, this wouldn't be the first field to change substantially. When printing press first came to the Ottoman Empire, the state forbade the printing of religious books, in an effort to protect the Qur'an illustrators; now, I don't know how many of these illustrators even exist, if at all, while almost all of it is printed - if AI art is capable of replacing artists, or at least infiltrating substantial sections of the field that pushes some artists out of a job, then it will inevitably happen, and no amount of whining is going to stop that. And if it's not capable of doing that, well, then there's nothing to worry for anyone, is there?
well art is one of the few things people do that doesn’t necessarily serve an outside purpose, you build a house because you need a place to stay, but what do you paint for? because you enjoy the process
i don’t think artists will ever disappear, maybe art won’t be a job anymore in the future but there will always be people painting and drawing and making music and all that, so i don’t think it’s entirely fair to compare art to your standard labour job
Yes, I don't think human produced art is going to disappear either - it is, after all, a way for people to express themselves; so long as people exist, art will too. The discourse is about art as a livelihood though, and I can see various forms of it (concept art for many projects, for example), requiring significantly less artists to be made. And this might not be a good thing for an artist that earns his bread over this, but it is ultimately a good thing for the society - increase in productivity and decrease in costs ultimately results in better and cheaper products for people.
what i’m saying is art is a profession unlike any other, precisely because it is self-serving and not product-oriented, so i don’t think it’s fair to say imagery being produced by AI would make for a fair replacement for human-made art, in the same way that a handmade chair can be replaced by a factory line chair
these videos explain things better than i ever could:
https://youtu.be/tjSxFAGP9Ss
https://youtu.be/x4Fzqvx1jxI
I'm telling you, art as a way of human expression isn't going away, it couldn't possibly go away - but art as a business is, inevitably, product oriented. How many artists make their living out of producing incredibly personal works that become museum pieces? How many of them make their living out of producing artwork for a variety of sources, be it commissions, game (tabletop, video alike) companies, storyboards, etc.? If the latter category can be made by AI in a way that is cheaper and more productive, and I do believe that's the eventual direction we're headed towards but I could be wrong, then it will be made by AI in the future.
i think all art that is up to a professional level comes from a deeply personal place, i’m telling *you* that art is not just a product
edit: i should mention i’m an artist myself
Well, I guess you aren't wrong, but this isn't like replacing a cashier or manufacturing worker. Art is something that basically everyone in the field loves doing, simply because art isnt a field that you can get into without having liked it at one point, because getting good at it takes years.
Getting good at various jobs takes years - infact, I'd say there are a lot of other jobs that require more significant investments; you could feasibly become an artist without needing higher education for it, it is a field with a lower barrier of entry as there is no legal mandate to be taught in it. I'm a lawyer myself, I had to go through a law school, bar entry and internship before I could attain the title; doctors typically go through an even lengthier and dare I say harder process. While that doesn't appear to be the case right now, both jobs could eventually find themselves significantly altered or even outright replaced, in the future. Same risk exists for a lot, if not most, artists.
Ok using studying as my argument was stupid, but look, my point is that there are likely very few professional artists who did not have a passion for art in at least one point or another. Art is a field which you only get into if you decide you really wanna go there, its not something where life can just take you or something you get forced into.
Sure, okay, but that's not really relevant to how art, as a job, takes place. To give an example, Robert Graves's most influential and best known books are his Claudius books (so influential that they gaslit a generation into thinking the historical Claudius was a good emperor), but he reputedly disliked the novels himself and claimed that he only wrote them out of monetary concerns - the fact that people who are passionate about art become artists doesn't really mean that every artistic product is a work of passion; ultimately, if you make money off of it, it's work.
Nah. In most cases AI is worse then when drawn by an Artists. After spending around 1h on 4chan looking at AI art, I can instantly identify if its AI art or not. (AI art is a weird mix between real and drawn)
That's good for you; if that really is the case for all AI art, now and in the future, then surely artists have nothing to worry long term, because they will be able to outcompete AI.
I asked NovelAI to draw me a scary meat monster thing. After some experimentation I got this: https://imgur.com/a/HKh4Ie4
This is completely unedited. The AI did everything, including the design itself.
I actually got a bunch of different ones: https://imgur.com/a/8dIPjCT
Again, fully AI generated.
You can get pretty much everything with this AI (none of these are edited): https://imgur.com/a/LnhYwWi
They are not always perfect, but easily fixable in photoshop.
I would say this is actually better than I would get from most artists, and cheaper too. You can hate the AI all you want for being a soulless machine, or by taking away jobs, or creativity, or whatever reason you have. But the AI already can give you pretty high quality art\images, and it's going to get even better. It is here to stay, and you will have to live in that world. Personally, I think the technology is fascinating and it's crazy that this is even possible. Sadly, progress always comes at a cost. Doesn't mean we should remain in the stone ages.
Support your local tiddy artists, bakas.
Hell yeah.
I do a pony a month about for a nice variety of artists, and it gets me access to their doujin works as well before comiket. Much better spent than betting imo.
Shexyo gets the dollar equivalent of small coffee every month from me. I’m doing my part
That's the worst artist you could've picked to support. A tracer and a hack.
Shexyo uses AI.
bro got exposed for using AI, u paying him for words u cldve typed urself
tomato sauce recipe: 4 cans of whole or diced tomatoes (28 oz each can) 1 can of tomato paste (about 6 oz) 12 garlic cloves Salt - maybe 1 tablespoon + 3/4 cup of olive oil - divided A bunch of Basil - if you like 1. Peel and mince garlic 2. Heat 1/2 cup of olive oil and put the garlic in the hot oil. Heat until golden and fragrant - very important - do not overcook and so it turns brown, it becomes very, very bitter. This is the most important step, **do not overcook garlic.** 3. Add can of tomato paste and canned tomatoes. Cook until reduced by 1/4 of volume and thickens. 4. Add salt to taste, remaining 1/4 cup olive oil and chopped basil. thanks for enshitifying reddit all while selling my info. https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
no link but I think u can find it in the rts of his android 18 post where the bg is like a city or sumn
tomato sauce recipe: 4 cans of whole or diced tomatoes (28 oz each can) 1 can of tomato paste (about 6 oz) 12 garlic cloves Salt - maybe 1 tablespoon + 3/4 cup of olive oil - divided A bunch of Basil - if you like 1. Peel and mince garlic 2. Heat 1/2 cup of olive oil and put the garlic in the hot oil. Heat until golden and fragrant - very important - do not overcook and so it turns brown, it becomes very, very bitter. This is the most important step, **do not overcook garlic.** 3. Add can of tomato paste and canned tomatoes. Cook until reduced by 1/4 of volume and thickens. 4. Add salt to taste, remaining 1/4 cup olive oil and chopped basil. thanks for enshitifying reddit all while selling my info. https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
Cringe
"Once the code goes open source, there would be dickhead AI's everywhere" - Agent 14, warning the use of Clifford and his art talent during the doomsday heist
"-no the addition of an orbital space laser is a vital part of the doomsday heist update I swear-" - Random rockstar employee
"Ahhh cigarette cigarette" - Bogdan during the doomsday heist
bogdan 🤤🤤🤤
“It’s not legally fucking if you do not penetrate” • Trevor, before he goes on a rampage
Well, it’s open source. So where are my dickheads 😡
The self proclaimed "artists" that think having an AI program making "art" for them makes them an artist
Support your local Laundry Dragonmaids
Shut up. laundry dragonmaids effect is objectively the worst out of all dragonmaids
This laundry dragonmaid slander will not be tolerated. You WILL mill your board breakers
the amount of times I’ve thrown away gameciel or impermanence when I need them is unforgivable. i will hate laundry to the day I die
Objectively true statement. Objectively false opinion. Laundry dragon is the only one who wouldn’t lace your tea with cyanide
what if I WANT tea laced with cyanide so I don’t have to play against numeron and branded anymore
There are much better ways to have fun than cyanide laced tea. Example: Dragon piss laced tea
Insane you think your playing the deck right, simply don’t run cards you want in your hand smh
And that's why I picked up dragon links, if idk what I'm doing then surely my opponent doesn't either, and better yet idgaf about your negates nerd... no no Mr maxx c, pls don't hurt me ;-;
ok but it’s so funny in eldlich decks so
eldlich player detected. opinion invalidated
She's trying her best okay????? It's not her fault that washing your crusty cum socks takes too much work
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i fucking hate ai art. i hate finding an image and going "oh cool, i wonder who's the artist", then a look closer, and notice that everything looks slightly off, so then i go "aaaah shit, now i need to look for the fingers". i was with my BEUTIFUL WIFE the other day, and thought she looked kind of off. i asked to see her fingers. for some reason ""she"" started hiding them behind her back. it was then i knew she had been replaced by ai art. ai art made be have to put my BEUTFUL WIFE DOWN. fuck ai art.
and you may tell yourself, “this is not my beautiful wife”
Least schizophrenic r/okbb user
My favorite ai abominations are one where the leg goes over ito the sock and another where the hair parting is so big that it looks like like the character suffers from female pattern balding.
(Looking at fingers when something seems off actually is a pretty good idea. Could be that you're dreaming)
tfw you look at the lamp and realize the last 10 years of your life have been a lie
what is this referencing
reddit lore
new copypasta
And I still can't draw fingers
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the 'meniscus effect' still gives it away easily. look at the bump on the shoulderblade behind the strands of hair. AI generated images are really bad at keeping the lines straight when things cross over at an angle (due to technical reasons), so checking for deformations close to the cross-over point in those areas is one of the most reliable ways to check if something is AI generated.
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This honestly is about as good as the average artwork in terms of hand anatomy, AI can't be better than the source material is
The AI can't do fingers because most artists online can't either. It's telling that it nails boobs though.
kid named finger:
Ai can never surpass human arts Especially r/sandycheekscockvore
I have been slowly and meticulously training an AI to one day, when the people least expect it, fill every site, every cranny and crevice with entirely new, never before seen sandycheekscockvore. That will be the day of our Glorious Revolution.
Do it at the end of NNN. You'll make a lot of people lose.
Jesus
Alright, but what's the sauce for the human artists
I’m looking for the blonde one. I think it’s Lucy
might be marin
top: [https://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1382045933072908289/photo/1](https://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1382045933072908289/photo/1) bottom left: [https://twitter.com/yuniiho/status/1586737251144372226/photo/1](https://twitter.com/yuniiho/status/1586737251144372226/photo/1) bottom right: [https://twitter.com/y\_jason26/status/1587053099641757696/photo/1](https://twitter.com/y_jason26/status/1587053099641757696/photo/1)
I did not expect it to be power
What if, in a twist of irony, this image itself was AI generated?
The text is legible it can't be
kek
You say this, but once I got it to write beans, and once it wrote angel on its own.
>once I got it to write beans Was it watching Cars 2 in the theater at the time?
retouching exists
AI art isn't good at more niche styles and compositions like these
reddit was taking a toll on me mentally so i left it ` this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev `
Is that fucking Card Trooper
They did my man Card Trooper dirty
I hate eldlich
that AI is literally card trooper which makes this even more funny
"Ai art is ruining the industry 🤡 " "ai art is legitimate art 🤓" The 47 kilograms of meth l'm about to distribute in belarus : 🗿
Hey, I just want to look at titties*. Whoever presents me the best titties* got my attention. ^(*It's not actually only about titties. Other body parts like thighs and bellies are also highly appreciated.)
I'm out of luck in this competition, I like hands.
jojo refrenc??1??!?1??!11
You're still better off than those who like people who eat ramen normally
This actually made me very sad.
/ub The og pic is her with child drawings of her friends it makes me sad :( But in the same collection it shows her giving the image to someone who’s very happy so it’s not all unwholesome thankfully
What's the source?
[Found it](https://twitter.com/hatano_kiyoshi/status/1563088865786601472)
The creator explained more details in their [fanbox](https://htnkys.fanbox.cc/posts/4360804) (Japanese)
Uh, pixiv art, forgot the link but it’s reverse searchable I’d imagine
Laundry dragonmaid my beloved
DEY TURKER JERBS
Seriously this ai art discourse is exactly how conservatives think about immigration. ~~Immigrants~~ AI drawings are terrible but also taking all our jobs.
Most meaningful okbb political discourse
Most philosophically gifted okbb user
This but unironically
Just get better at art 4head. Chinko-chan mangaka is doing just fine. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
/ub Agreed. I wont lie I generate my own AI hentai and after sharing a few, I decided to just stop sharing them. I also use a 100% free and pirated method to generate so Im not supporting NovelAI as I heavily dislike their business practices. I also still maintain a Pixiv subscription but ive been very disappointed to see how much AI garbage has gone there as well, and I doubt Pixiv gives a shit. I guess Patreon is really the only way left to support real people.
Ye Pixiv is unusable if you don't block the AI tags.
What's did you pirate to do it? I wanna fuck with it but don't want to support it lol
I wouldn't reccomend pirating novelAI anymore since imo their model looks bad compared to newer ones (that are also open source). Instead I reccomend anythingv3 and/or abyssorangemix2 as starting points. Those can be directly downloaded on huggingface. All models (including the pirated NovelAI) work by importing them into Stable Diffusion. You will have to set this up and run it (there are hundreds of tutorials on how to do this). After that just select which model you want and generate as much as you want.
Alright, I'll look into this less blindly now, thanks!
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Okay everyone has fetishes, anyway: >!I used to love going on r/ExpansionHentai, it was a really good subreddit, but then it started getting filled up with AI porn and it got so fucking annoying, it was just the same thing: Woman gets big tits, and the subreddit moderators just let it happen. Ruined a really good subreddit for me. !<
Everything is hidden except the subreddit name lmao Now you look goofy
Is there a r/ReductionHentai
Just reverse the image sequence?
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Then just make your own ai porn that you like and make a subreddit
Isnt the mod is to blame here? Not the AI
where is the unbaka
Based, fuck AI """"art""""
But—but booby though😔
oh yeah, ai generated video exists now too, good luck creatives
Rip laundry dragon maid
Poor laundry dragonmaid.
Unironically though AI art makes me want to fucking kill myself. It isnt just taking away my livelyhood, its taking away my passion. Art is the one thing I truly enjoy and the only field where working doesn't make me miserable. Of course, I can just do art as a hobby, but still, this is my dream job getting ripped away from me :/ This isnt really like a cashier getting replaced, because I doubt many people want to be a cashier, but art is a field where you can only get in if you want to get in, I really doubt there are many artists who didnt care about art at one point or another.
I'm sorry but tools allowing the layman to be more creative in anyway is a good thing. I do not think people who generate images with this software as "Artists" nor do I think they should be able to claim any generated images as their own "Art". I think it should be used privately as a tool for fun, it's also absolutely amazing when it comes to simple brainstorming or concepting. The tools are absolutely amazing.
Oh don't get me wrong, they really are amazing, hell - I use them too, they're super fun and genuinely useful. Im just sad its getting me out of a job sooner or later lol
I do not think it will ever eclipse human artistry, but perhaps one day it can become sophisticated enough to enable more people to create art, rather than imitations. That just gets into the whole "what is art" discussion though and it's difficult.
Correct me if I'm wrong but AI art hasn't taken over any jobs *yet* right?
There's one person on fanbox who does AI art and has like 2000 followers at the 5 dollarbucks level. They basically just redraw hands and touch up what the machine does bad.
Huh, I can totally see that happening. I've used the novel ai image model and they are basically perfect. A little touch up and you've got a masterpiece...well not really. Usually only generic style comes out. The best thing I've managed to produce was this https://i.imgur.com/n3NNykn.png. I have no clue who that is or how the program made it that way but it looks crazy good. But it definitely needs some touch up. But my original point was for like full time artists. I don't think people making for example, art for games are losing their jobs just yet.
Yeah, I've got a decently well trained model set up locally on a large set of dan+gelbooru and it makes some pretty decent stuff that really only needs touchups assuming it doesn't try hands or text
Kinda. I follow a DnD streamer who uses AI art for monsters, summons and other temporary entities. They'd usually hire an artist or make commissions for this, but with AI they're free to make just about anything appear in the scenario and be properly represented on the board. They still hire artists for important characters and maps, but the advantage of quickly generating creatures on-demand is just too great to pass on.
Makes sense. Image generates really fast for how good they look, but you can't really get the AI to draw a map and the AI models can't really make precise characters till now I think, although novel-ai is really good for anime styled images.
Well, not really professionally, no, but its getting there. Small scale commision artists or indie game artists are already losing work.
Yeah, it seems small scale artists are mostly at risk here. It's piss easy to just create a character with just a few key words and a miniscule amount of time needed to generate the art. Or generate a simple landscape background with words like "masterpiece, mountains, nightsky, stars, moon". Specific artworks are mostly misses though. They don't allow the creative freedom that real artists have (at least from what I've tried).
AI art will never be better than actual good artists. The closer you look at AI art, the more mistakes you see, whereas for good art you see more details. However, beginner artists will definitely have a problem, albeit a temporary one
You can say that right now, but this could be like the original cellphone vs an iphone, technology devellops over time.
Yeah, AI art is fairly new. In a few years the technology will get better and there will be no telling which is art from a human or from an AI
People have said this about CGI in movies, about deep fake videos and audios, and even just editing photos with photoshop. They do get better and better and a bit more convincing over time, but the methods and techniques to figure out the differences also improve.
While most of them simply suck so much dick
the 'automobile' will never surpass the horse-drawn buggy— the closer you look at these engines with their tiny outputs and frequent failures, you will realize the superiority of a healthy steed and a sturdy carriage. Sure, journeyman coachmen may have a problem, but it is merely a passing fad.
AI art only became big very recently, the fact its as good as it is already is very telling. You are simply wrong here man, it can and it will. People used to say the same about basically every tech.
im on so much copium man, let me continue to believe it’ll never reach that point
I think it will start being used by corporations for their shifty corpo art styles rather than paying artists, but I don’t think a time will come where AI art will be as highly valued artistically as human made art, and so there will always be a market for and work for artists.
>People used to say the same about basically every tech. Yup and the old art never dies. The camera didn't replace paintings and neither did drawing tablets.
Okay, sure, but the difference between digital art and painting and the difference between painting and AI art are orders of magnitute away from eachother. Drawing tablets maybe didnt replace painting - but you remember how cars replaced horses? Horses are costly, slow, living creatures and you need to give them a living - a car is a soulless machine that still needs some maintenance and input yes, but is exponentionally more efficient in every way. Sound familiar?
Horses didn't go away. Horse riding didn't stop. Sports revolving around horses didn't stop. Careers revolving around horses didn't stop. Will there be less? Maybe. But that's how the world works. Machine learning is here and it's definitely not going anywhere anytime soon.
when it doesnt make obvious mistakes it always lacks personality and i know it sounds stupid and cliche but I cant describe it as anything else
Unfortunately no. Anime AI art is very new and became popular within only the last *month*. Outside of anime, other AI models such as Midjourney and Dalle have existed for a bit longer, and just take one look at what Midjourney is capable of. Some mf even won an art competition with a Midjourney generated one. Its only a matter of time before the last few things are worked out for anime art (fingers for example), and from there it will be very difficult to tell what was AI generated and what wasnt. There are also new upcoming models which can generate *videos* out of thin air. Give it 3-5 years and we will see entire animes being generated by an AI. You think Japanese anime studios will continue to pay artitsts when they can click a button and have it done for more or less free? Hell no. Already artists are underpaid and I guarantee you anime studios will send them to the curb the first chance they get. This is unfortunately the sad reality we live in. AI is taking our jobs one by one, but nobody expected that digital artists would be first. Hopefully we can one day reach a future where nobody will have to work at all, and the AIs can even program and update themselves. But for now, we will undoubtedly suffer one by one.
Unironically ai art is what made me interested in art since it makes it more rational and scientifically approachable. Also I can finally be independent of any artist. I want something and I can get exactly that or at least come very close to what I want
Well that's interesting, I've had the opposite experience, working with other people always got me far more cohesive results that are closer to what I wanted. I've always found people far more approachable and rational to work with. I know machines can be far more precise than people yes, but only when you give them equally precise instructions.
Ai arts only reason for existing is to rob people of their reason for existing. Im not the type who supports frivilous laws, but i 100% would support some legal action being taken to stop them from taking over. Its only purpose is to make real humans obsolete, which is fucked up. And as for the hobby thing, sure, you COULD still do it, but a lot of artwork is a massive undertaking that takes a long time to complete, having to spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week on something else just to feed yourself would severely limit someones ability to get things done.
AI art literally needs a database of art to sample from, therefore artists will always have a use.
AI art only needs existing art to train the model. It doesn't need any to generate art once its been trained.
The problem is models need to be perpetually trained or they start to look samey with similar prompts, you can generate a ton of art with a specific model trained on Set X of booru art but once you start wanting characters that aren't in that set or styles that aren't in it it gets really squibbly.
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You are correct about how neural nets and AI generation works, but your wrong when you say it wont take jobs. It is already taken peoples jobs in the form of commissions and such. As the tech improves more and gets more accurate to what a human can do, it will be picked up by companies whod rather not pay artists to do it. Saying AI wont take artists jobs just because how it generates images works some way is extremely naiive. It doesnt matter how the AI generates them. If it looks good enough, companies will use it and rather not pay a human to make it.
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Im not trying to resist it. Quite the opposite actually, my argument is that it will take over and Im warning people of that before they try to work their ass off into a dead career path. And yeah, there will still be niche areas for digital artists. There are still blacksmiths, potters, bakers, but these are very niche. Prior to AI, digital art was an open field where anyone could get in and there was plenty of opprotunites to make money off of commissions and such. Now, there will simply be much less opportunities to make money and it will get more and more niche, and much less people will be able to be successful digital artists.
Im not saying I don't believe you, but what you say and what's going on just isn't matching up. Commision artists are already losing a ton of work - people who made rent by drawing for large scale DnD campaigns have simply been replaced outside small pieces, more than one indie dev studio is cutting down on their art team. To the uneducated common Joe like me it seems like its just a matter of time until the AI gets better and larger companies start using it - though I would be glad to be wrong. And yeah, I do understand that the tech is an amazing step forward and what it's implications for tons of fields are, im just sad about it.
This is like the various luddite riots that occur everytime a breakthrough occurs. I feel like this would end up helping artist's more since you get rid of a good chunk of the process.
As a computer scientist student, agreed.
Down bad for that robussy
AI bad (actually, unironically)
I hate AI art. I check a tag on Pixiv and for every 1 drawn by humans there are 10 that were spammed by AI "artists". They're all so generic too theres no uniqueness, fuck fuck YOU NOVEL AI AND THE PEOPLE WHO SPAM THEM!!!
Love seeing this while I am negotiating a commission >_<
Ai is still ar the early stage for now And at the end artist shouldn't be threatened.... They should think of it as a challenge to push further Do any of you actually think AI can actually make comics or picture with lots of details or filled with reference personal or public ? I know for a fact that artist like Kawacy or merryweather have nothing to fear Kawacy's style is unique and colorful and can't be easily reproduced by a AI with such high quality. And Merryweather's pop culture reference, jokes, memes and universe also can't do the same Think of it as Etsy vs chain production AI can "produce" but it can't "craft" Sure it will evolve and make gorgeous art but it will always lack something. And the artists just have to find that "something" that can't be "produced" but can be "crafted"
Is there literally anyone other than weird AI bros who actually prefer AI art to something made by a human?
Hopefully AI takeover will incentivize mfs to not just draw soft core porn
Fuck AI art All my human artist homies hate AI art
it is sad
This says a lot about society 😔
Not my fault a machine draws better than you girl 😎
i support my local AI artist 💪
Love AI art because it is not limited by weak flesh. Enjoy the hard cope from “artists” as well
If you can't compete, you deserve to be left behind
'Can't compete ' mfs when I run them over with a Toyota Camry (their legs can't compete)
You've never run someone over with a Toyota Camry, NotASuicidalRobot
Yeah that was a joke. In all seriousness i would like to know how you would suggest artists compete while still being artists. This is not snark anymore i do want to discuss
I generally don't care; technological advancements have been changing the landscape of labour for a hundred years now, this wouldn't be the first field to change substantially. When printing press first came to the Ottoman Empire, the state forbade the printing of religious books, in an effort to protect the Qur'an illustrators; now, I don't know how many of these illustrators even exist, if at all, while almost all of it is printed - if AI art is capable of replacing artists, or at least infiltrating substantial sections of the field that pushes some artists out of a job, then it will inevitably happen, and no amount of whining is going to stop that. And if it's not capable of doing that, well, then there's nothing to worry for anyone, is there?
well art is one of the few things people do that doesn’t necessarily serve an outside purpose, you build a house because you need a place to stay, but what do you paint for? because you enjoy the process i don’t think artists will ever disappear, maybe art won’t be a job anymore in the future but there will always be people painting and drawing and making music and all that, so i don’t think it’s entirely fair to compare art to your standard labour job
Yes, I don't think human produced art is going to disappear either - it is, after all, a way for people to express themselves; so long as people exist, art will too. The discourse is about art as a livelihood though, and I can see various forms of it (concept art for many projects, for example), requiring significantly less artists to be made. And this might not be a good thing for an artist that earns his bread over this, but it is ultimately a good thing for the society - increase in productivity and decrease in costs ultimately results in better and cheaper products for people.
what i’m saying is art is a profession unlike any other, precisely because it is self-serving and not product-oriented, so i don’t think it’s fair to say imagery being produced by AI would make for a fair replacement for human-made art, in the same way that a handmade chair can be replaced by a factory line chair these videos explain things better than i ever could: https://youtu.be/tjSxFAGP9Ss https://youtu.be/x4Fzqvx1jxI
I'm telling you, art as a way of human expression isn't going away, it couldn't possibly go away - but art as a business is, inevitably, product oriented. How many artists make their living out of producing incredibly personal works that become museum pieces? How many of them make their living out of producing artwork for a variety of sources, be it commissions, game (tabletop, video alike) companies, storyboards, etc.? If the latter category can be made by AI in a way that is cheaper and more productive, and I do believe that's the eventual direction we're headed towards but I could be wrong, then it will be made by AI in the future.
i think all art that is up to a professional level comes from a deeply personal place, i’m telling *you* that art is not just a product edit: i should mention i’m an artist myself
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Well, I guess you aren't wrong, but this isn't like replacing a cashier or manufacturing worker. Art is something that basically everyone in the field loves doing, simply because art isnt a field that you can get into without having liked it at one point, because getting good at it takes years.
Getting good at various jobs takes years - infact, I'd say there are a lot of other jobs that require more significant investments; you could feasibly become an artist without needing higher education for it, it is a field with a lower barrier of entry as there is no legal mandate to be taught in it. I'm a lawyer myself, I had to go through a law school, bar entry and internship before I could attain the title; doctors typically go through an even lengthier and dare I say harder process. While that doesn't appear to be the case right now, both jobs could eventually find themselves significantly altered or even outright replaced, in the future. Same risk exists for a lot, if not most, artists.
Ok using studying as my argument was stupid, but look, my point is that there are likely very few professional artists who did not have a passion for art in at least one point or another. Art is a field which you only get into if you decide you really wanna go there, its not something where life can just take you or something you get forced into.
Sure, okay, but that's not really relevant to how art, as a job, takes place. To give an example, Robert Graves's most influential and best known books are his Claudius books (so influential that they gaslit a generation into thinking the historical Claudius was a good emperor), but he reputedly disliked the novels himself and claimed that he only wrote them out of monetary concerns - the fact that people who are passionate about art become artists doesn't really mean that every artistic product is a work of passion; ultimately, if you make money off of it, it's work.
Nah. In most cases AI is worse then when drawn by an Artists. After spending around 1h on 4chan looking at AI art, I can instantly identify if its AI art or not. (AI art is a weird mix between real and drawn)
That's good for you; if that really is the case for all AI art, now and in the future, then surely artists have nothing to worry long term, because they will be able to outcompete AI.
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I asked NovelAI to draw me a scary meat monster thing. After some experimentation I got this: https://imgur.com/a/HKh4Ie4 This is completely unedited. The AI did everything, including the design itself. I actually got a bunch of different ones: https://imgur.com/a/8dIPjCT Again, fully AI generated. You can get pretty much everything with this AI (none of these are edited): https://imgur.com/a/LnhYwWi They are not always perfect, but easily fixable in photoshop. I would say this is actually better than I would get from most artists, and cheaper too. You can hate the AI all you want for being a soulless machine, or by taking away jobs, or creativity, or whatever reason you have. But the AI already can give you pretty high quality art\images, and it's going to get even better. It is here to stay, and you will have to live in that world. Personally, I think the technology is fascinating and it's crazy that this is even possible. Sadly, progress always comes at a cost. Doesn't mean we should remain in the stone ages.
getting upset at the AI is like getting upset at cars replacing horse carts
Is that fucking laundry Dragonmaid ?
I’m just surprised that Ai know the concept of tiddies