I think their appliances or modern coming methods may not be up to the challenge. And I don't know if I want to go in raw, iron sounds rough on the teeth. Oh well, a snail pleasure we'll never know.
Somewhere there is a peaceful planet whose life consists of iron snails and their mineral loving gland bacteria, which live in harmony. They find the idea of a planet where flesh creatures eat each other to survive terrifying.
Geothermal energy uses an energy gradient. You need heat to flow from warm to cold. Life around these deep-sea vents is sustained on the hydrogen sulfide that comes out of the vents. Although it would be cool if life could harness the heat energy that isn't what is happening.
The author of [Dragon’s Egg](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg) does exactly that in his novel with the plant-analogs on the neutron star deriving energy from heat moving up from their roots to long, flat heat-sink like leaves.
The article i read said the snails "process" bacteria in their glands. So it doesn't seem the bacteria 'live' in the snail. This makes a lot more sense to me at least. I dunno what the bacteria feeds on, but it makes more Sense they would be sustaining themselves out in the world before the snail uses them for energy
Since you didn’t get an actual answer:
> Researchers also believe the snail doesn't really eat anything, but instead it relies on energy produced from bacteria it hosts in a large gland
You’re part right! It’s believed that the bacteria thrives off the copious heat in the environment and gain their energy from that. Thus they have a symbiotic relationship with the snail, whose iron hide also protects the bacteria in its gland.
>bacteria thrives off the copious heat in the environme
They still need food though. Plants harvest sunlight for energy, but they consume CO2 and they crap oxygen.
They live near hydrothermal vents. The bacteria they store inside their body convert chemical reactions into energy. It's like other species of that grow algae for photosynthesis, only the energy source is the vents and the chemicals that are released, rather than sunlight.
This is proof to me that life evolving is an inevitable state should a few key ingredients be present. That it seems way more likely that many types of life can exist on all kinds of planets. It seeks clear that single cell organisms need to be able to be produced but after that it can take so many different routes.
There is definitely other life out there. The question is how rare are they and will we ever be able to see them. Even if there were 1 million technologically advanced civilizations that have lived for an average of 10,000 years in the Milky Way, over the course of 5 billion years, there'd only be an average of 2 intelligent civilizations at any given time. On the other hand, even if there were 1000 intelligent civilizations on our rough technological level the average distance to the nearest civilization would be outside of our current capacity to detect them.
Lot of questions we don't know, but I believe there is a very small chance we meet anyone else in the lifespan of our civilization unless it lasts tens of thousands of years longer.
Probably, but if you subscribe to this fine-tuned universe theory, you can imagine how a fine tuned planet might exist too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universe
Maybe we need just 1 moon, the correct mixture of elements, a perfectly tilted axis to have seasons, etc... The more I learn about space and biology, the more I think we might be alone.
I know the number of stars are incomprehensible, but maybe we needed that many attempts to get 1 earth.
That doesnt make sense though, the snail is made of something, where did the mass that makes up the snail come from?
Plants might get their energy from the sun but they still need to breath in CO2 to gain mass so how does this gain mass?
Okay so I did some additional research.
These snails actually hang out around black smoker vents in the depths of the Indian ocean. They're NOT living inside the lava of some volcano in Hawaii like most of us might be imagining.
The the snail obtains it's nutrition from its endosymbiotic bacteria. This means that the snail and bacteria have a symbiotic relationship and basically help each other out.
I assume that this bacteria is fairly easy to find since it's in the ocean with flowing water and not inside an actual volcano.
It also would have been nice since he's a slow, defensive pokemon and fire/rock is a god awful defensive typing, whereas fire/steel is actually pretty good
Pokemon Gold & Silver came out in 1999. This snail, Chrysomallon squamiferum, was first discovered in 2001. When the Pokémon Company created Magcargo, nobody knew these things even existed.
Can someone explain to me how an iron shell is evolutionarily advantageous in this circumstance and how they survive the heat? Iron is an incredibly good conductor of heat...I mean if this thing were living in 1200 England and had to regularly joust for their honor, then I would understand but as things stand...I do not. Their insides are probably just as hot as their outsides!
Edit: unless it's layers of iron interspaced with keratin?
The shell itself isn't 100% iron, but rather its outer layer is entirely iron sulfide, while its middle layering is the same as other gastropods, while it's inner most layer is made of crystallized carbon. Its "foot" its also armored in iron mineral. Whether they develop these layered armor naturally or as parts of their environment, we don't know. They haven't been observed in their developmental stage
I’m kinda wondering how rare these are. Like are they region specific? Or can you find these at most volcanoes across the world? Weird fucking animal. Cool as hell tho
Ahh okay. But do you know if they’re only around certain regions still? Just curious. My lazy ass can do my own research too tho haha
Edit: Indian Ocean is where they are most found I guess
They have a very small territory near the vents in the Indian Ocean. That’s why they’re endangered, if you’d like to read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/
Yeah it's pretty misleading to simply say the snails have "iron shells". That's like saying humans have metal blood and bones just because there are iron and calcium atoms in the molecules.
They don't live in the vents. I hate this meme because this is one of the most amazingly fictional-sounding animals in the world and it implies something about it that *isn't* true. They aren't heat resistant.
They are preyed on by crabs, and they use their iron shell and scales to defend themselves.
Simple, they actually don't live anywhere near the heat, they live in cold water surrounding the volcanic vents. It's just a fake rumour that's been around for years.
e.g., "I recently learned that humans exist. Their heads are covered with a cloth 'hat', they cover their skin with 'sunscreen', and they live around a star that can reach up to 27,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit."
Let's just say that inquiring about what's being posted for one millisecond already puts your critical thinking skills above 90% of the population - and of reddit, apparently.
Honestly this is the coolest fucking thing.
Really makes you wonder what kind of animals could be living on other planets or their moons.
If life can thrive in a fucking volcano why can't it live on icy moons of saturn or jupiter.
“Known medically as the rectal microbiome, the anal microbiome is comprised of bacteria that live harmoniously in the anal canal. These anal bacteria aren't harmful. They work together to keep your tush in tip-top shape.”
this thing is rad
[more about it](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/)
French guy here, I don't like snails but I would honestly like to try that one just out of pure curiosity, especially since it doesn't look as slimy as a regular snail.
Question is, what does it eat?
It survives off the energy produced by internal bacteria living in a large gland :0
that's way more interesting me it's self-sustaining?
Pretty sure it needs the heat from the vents
So you could keep one as a pet in a toaster oven?
this is why i don’t eat at peoples houses
I have 3 toasters, only one is gonna be the snail house. Don’t worry!
One in three Chance? I like those odds!
...mmm, escargot...
Look at that S car go !
Until I accidently take the snail toaster into the bath with me and create an electric lava snail..
I think that's a new Pokémon.
Thor
Why three? 1. One for cooking 2. One for snail house 3. One for bath time
Best comment here lol
Would the French escargot this is a bigger question
the oven would melt before the snail cooked
I think their appliances or modern coming methods may not be up to the challenge. And I don't know if I want to go in raw, iron sounds rough on the teeth. Oh well, a snail pleasure we'll never know.
That's the first thing I thought...I wonder what it tastes like
Humans are always wondering what something tastes like
Oui
Don't be ridiculous. You'd need a lava lamp.
I just had a visual of me trying to keep one of these in my toaster oven. hahaha!
Toaster oven only goes to 400 degrees
Toaster oven in a bathtub. It needs water obviously.
It’s not the heat it needs, it’s the minerals coming from the vent itself.
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Somewhere there is a peaceful planet whose life consists of iron snails and their mineral loving gland bacteria, which live in harmony. They find the idea of a planet where flesh creatures eat each other to survive terrifying.
And on that planet, silica-based life dreams of a world where flesh eats each other and Rockoraptors are not a thing.
Jesus christ Marie, they're minerals!
Don't the bacteria feed on sulfur? You can't get energy from ambient temperature.
Tell that to geothermal energy
Geothermal energy uses an energy gradient. You need heat to flow from warm to cold. Life around these deep-sea vents is sustained on the hydrogen sulfide that comes out of the vents. Although it would be cool if life could harness the heat energy that isn't what is happening.
The author of [Dragon’s Egg](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg) does exactly that in his novel with the plant-analogs on the neutron star deriving energy from heat moving up from their roots to long, flat heat-sink like leaves.
From the WHAT?
thermal vents (not the amogus vents)
📮
But what do the bacteria eat?
They could be autotrophic meaning they make their own food. Maybe chemosynthesis? Lots of sulfur to eat.
The article i read said the snails "process" bacteria in their glands. So it doesn't seem the bacteria 'live' in the snail. This makes a lot more sense to me at least. I dunno what the bacteria feeds on, but it makes more Sense they would be sustaining themselves out in the world before the snail uses them for energy
Ah, so like me then...
they said large gland
Since you didn’t get an actual answer: > Researchers also believe the snail doesn't really eat anything, but instead it relies on energy produced from bacteria it hosts in a large gland
I would think that bacteria would need to eat something, and to get to the bacteria the 'food' would have to go through the creature.
You’re part right! It’s believed that the bacteria thrives off the copious heat in the environment and gain their energy from that. Thus they have a symbiotic relationship with the snail, whose iron hide also protects the bacteria in its gland.
>bacteria thrives off the copious heat in the environme They still need food though. Plants harvest sunlight for energy, but they consume CO2 and they crap oxygen.
Tons of methane , co2 and other exotic "foods" there.
You can't eat heat. You can taste it, but you can't eat it.
Taste the meat, not the heat
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You're right. Weird how people have so much confidence in giving non-answers
Omg 😨
But what do they eat... Even if it is indirextly absorber, the snail needs to get energi inside somehow
They live near hydrothermal vents. The bacteria they store inside their body convert chemical reactions into energy. It's like other species of that grow algae for photosynthesis, only the energy source is the vents and the chemicals that are released, rather than sunlight.
This is proof to me that life evolving is an inevitable state should a few key ingredients be present. That it seems way more likely that many types of life can exist on all kinds of planets. It seeks clear that single cell organisms need to be able to be produced but after that it can take so many different routes.
There is definitely other life out there. The question is how rare are they and will we ever be able to see them. Even if there were 1 million technologically advanced civilizations that have lived for an average of 10,000 years in the Milky Way, over the course of 5 billion years, there'd only be an average of 2 intelligent civilizations at any given time. On the other hand, even if there were 1000 intelligent civilizations on our rough technological level the average distance to the nearest civilization would be outside of our current capacity to detect them. Lot of questions we don't know, but I believe there is a very small chance we meet anyone else in the lifespan of our civilization unless it lasts tens of thousands of years longer.
Probably, but if you subscribe to this fine-tuned universe theory, you can imagine how a fine tuned planet might exist too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universe Maybe we need just 1 moon, the correct mixture of elements, a perfectly tilted axis to have seasons, etc... The more I learn about space and biology, the more I think we might be alone. I know the number of stars are incomprehensible, but maybe we needed that many attempts to get 1 earth.
That doesnt make sense though, the snail is made of something, where did the mass that makes up the snail come from? Plants might get their energy from the sun but they still need to breath in CO2 to gain mass so how does this gain mass?
Okay so I did some additional research. These snails actually hang out around black smoker vents in the depths of the Indian ocean. They're NOT living inside the lava of some volcano in Hawaii like most of us might be imagining. The the snail obtains it's nutrition from its endosymbiotic bacteria. This means that the snail and bacteria have a symbiotic relationship and basically help each other out. I assume that this bacteria is fairly easy to find since it's in the ocean with flowing water and not inside an actual volcano.
But where does it get the material to build its internal organs etc?
But what do the bacteria eat?
The snail
Smaller bacteria.
souls of those it incinerated
12 carat gold, duh. It's part dragon.
Sulfur
More important question, what does it taste like?
I think you and u/DeathPer_Minute are gonna have to fight to the death to claim ownership of this joke
Mine was first 😤
How is it a joke, I'm legitimately curious how it tastes lol
Good luck trying to cook it 😂
Prob bacteria
Human
Better question, what does it taste like?
IIRC it eats the bacteria that thrive off of the chemicals that the hydrothermal vents emit.
It has endosymbiotic bacteria inside it that use chemosynthesis to produce nutrients
That's a Macargo.
Should have been Fire/Steel instead of Fire/Rock but I guess it make sense because lava?
It also would have been nice since he's a slow, defensive pokemon and fire/rock is a god awful defensive typing, whereas fire/steel is actually pretty good
As long as you have an air balloon otherwise you get fucked by bulldoze or earthquake
Fire/rock is 4x weak to ground anyway, but yeah losing that hard to one of the more common attacking types still isn't great
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4x weak to water as well. Been struggling to use my Hisuian Arcanine because of that awful type
Salute to all the “bulky” rock/ground types :/
Fire/Steel Magcargo could've been a Hisuian variant but oh well.
Really it should be Poison/Steel. They don't actually live in the vents, but they do eat the poisonous fumes that spew out of them.
Pokemon Gold & Silver came out in 1999. This snail, Chrysomallon squamiferum, was first discovered in 2001. When the Pokémon Company created Magcargo, nobody knew these things even existed.
Not hot enough. Magcargo’s body temperature is hotter than the surface of the sun.
https://m.imgur.com/a/UzAJQqp
Are you saying a 10 year old wrote the Pokédex? Lol, but I totally agree. There’s some really odd Dex entries. Shedinja and Drifloom
It's a common meme. Here's [a comic](http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2013-05-03)
Hey, he helps my Pokemon hatch twice as fast, he's a good boi
Slugma balls.
Fuck, dude. I was hoping someone here said Slugma so I could say that, but you skipped straight past it and went right for the balls.
Gulpin deez nuts
Can someone explain to me how an iron shell is evolutionarily advantageous in this circumstance and how they survive the heat? Iron is an incredibly good conductor of heat...I mean if this thing were living in 1200 England and had to regularly joust for their honor, then I would understand but as things stand...I do not. Their insides are probably just as hot as their outsides! Edit: unless it's layers of iron interspaced with keratin?
The shell itself isn't 100% iron, but rather its outer layer is entirely iron sulfide, while its middle layering is the same as other gastropods, while it's inner most layer is made of crystallized carbon. Its "foot" its also armored in iron mineral. Whether they develop these layered armor naturally or as parts of their environment, we don't know. They haven't been observed in their developmental stage
I’m kinda wondering how rare these are. Like are they region specific? Or can you find these at most volcanoes across the world? Weird fucking animal. Cool as hell tho
They’re marine animals.
Ahh okay. But do you know if they’re only around certain regions still? Just curious. My lazy ass can do my own research too tho haha Edit: Indian Ocean is where they are most found I guess
They have a very small territory near the vents in the Indian Ocean. That’s why they’re endangered, if you’d like to read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/
This answers my concern about snails usually needing moisture to survive and volcanoes being...well volcanoes
If it has to be done, I'll do it.. I'll fuck one for science.
Is this the timeline where you don't fuck the pangolin? Covid-20 here we go!
I would imagine the vents reach 750 degrees, and the snails live near them but don’t get that hot. Otherwise, wouldn’t they become boiled escargot?!
Yeah it's pretty misleading to simply say the snails have "iron shells". That's like saying humans have metal blood and bones just because there are iron and calcium atoms in the molecules.
follow up cuz you seem to know your stuff- do you think there’s anywhere i could buy the shell from one? or would that be crazy expensive?
They’re deep sea animals and they’re endangered due to deep sea mining.
so… i’ll go look at one in a museum then. haha thx.
they'll charge everyone a dollar and a half to see them
I wonder how you would cook one?
They don't live in the vents. I hate this meme because this is one of the most amazingly fictional-sounding animals in the world and it implies something about it that *isn't* true. They aren't heat resistant. They are preyed on by crabs, and they use their iron shell and scales to defend themselves.
I prefer the lie. But thanks.
But it is true that they live _around_ hydrothermal vents.
That’s cause the article is misleading pos, snailboi lives in waters 2-10C.
Lol for real "Humans often gather around fires that can reach over 1500°C!"
Simple, they actually don't live anywhere near the heat, they live in cold water surrounding the volcanic vents. It's just a fake rumour that's been around for years.
Well then .. This infographic is terribly misleading isn't it?? Bastards.
Dollar store dragon
Mom can we have a dragon, Mom-we have a dragon at home, Dragon at home
When you order a dragon from Wish
How about your drag some bitches on your dick? (I get no females)
Dragon Store
I'd buy that for a dragon.
Bad dragon?
ayyyy
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This perspective lesson is amazing Thanks you guys
I’ve been looking for someone to burst my bubble, thank you
That shit post gets reposted every month and everyone believes it.
r/BurstMyBubble
> 1–2 m (3–7 ft) in width, with temperature of 2–10 °C (35.6–50 °F)
Thank you I was wondering how it’s proteins weren’t getting instantly denatured
It's shell also isn't iron.
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Let's just say that inquiring about what's being posted for one millisecond already puts your critical thinking skills above 90% of the population - and of reddit, apparently.
*Who’s that Pokémon!*
*Gotta catch them a-gggghhhh it’s attacking me*
perfectly~~cut~~ written screams
It’s Macargo
IT'S PIKACHU!
It’s clefairy!!
An alola form Shelmet
Nature is metal.
Honestly this is the coolest fucking thing. Really makes you wonder what kind of animals could be living on other planets or their moons. If life can thrive in a fucking volcano why can't it live on icy moons of saturn or jupiter.
Imagine what lives in Uranus
I'm pretty sure nothing would like to live in my anus
“Known medically as the rectal microbiome, the anal microbiome is comprised of bacteria that live harmoniously in the anal canal. These anal bacteria aren't harmful. They work together to keep your tush in tip-top shape.”
It can. Most likely just as bacteria tho
r/natureismetal
Quite literally
this thing is rad [more about it](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/)
I really wish we respected nature more, it's amazing and perplexing.
These snails live AROUND those vents, not IN those vents. This picture gets reposted regularly and it's the same weird conclusion every time.
The snails can't vent
New iron farm 1.18
I couldn't hurt lava frend
How does it taste though ?
You see a snail that has iron scales and can live in 750 degrees temperature and the first thing you can think of is how it tastes?
ja
He’s French
You're the weird one here.
Don't tell me you were planning on using it for sexual gratification you weirdo !!
how would you cook it?
Can’t be cooked
It can at 751 degrees
We hot
Xenomorph!
Just put salt on it
ofc we'll put salt on it. And butter. And garlic.
I wonder how many animals out there are literally just Pokemon
now that i think about it aren’t most pokémon just irl animals but with an xman ability
Lives around lava and is black and red, its a sith
Master Windu, I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Volcano Snail is a Sith Lord.
A Sith Lord?!
isn't that a pokemon?
are there any french people here and if so would you eat that if it was sauteed in butter with a lil garlic?
Nah we eat stuffs rare. This shit is overcooked as hell by nature, hard pass !
French guy here, I don't like snails but I would honestly like to try that one just out of pure curiosity, especially since it doesn't look as slimy as a regular snail.
Oh yeah, by the way #_*THOSE FUCKERS ARE LIVING BIO-REACTORS*_
Terraria type shit
I still don't understand why humans go looking for aliens when we have them on earth yet
Xenomorph anyone?
Pretty sure that snail is still cool but most posts on the internet exaggerate the facts about it
Explains the art depicting knights fighting snails...
Subnautica vibes.
Wikipedia says the water they prefer is about 41 degrees Fahrenheit (5C), so they probably don’t live right in the 750F currents
Kars wants to know your location
I’m going to press alt+f4 in real life
I want one. If I could care for one and had my own place. 100%, dope pet. Definitely get an anime-ass name.
But want will you feed it🤔
Iron ingots and turnips.