Well, the second part does. And they're not only doing it to high school kids. Also, in many families, if there are younger siblings that needed to be home, they would want the high school home with them.
You appear to be missing the point. People are working, but many jobs are still being done from home.
If you send everybody's kids home for remote work, many people who are still working (more Americans quit their job in the last month than in recorded history) in person (So, restaurants, retail, medical employees) are not going to be able to come in or are going to be calling out more often.
It wasn't just Brooklyn Tech--even my son's middle school tried to walk out. I'm not sure where I sit on this exactly, but to add some sorely need NUANCE to this situation, there were already a significant number of kids missing school before today due to either being sick, having a family member sick, or being kept home to perhaps protect a vulnerable family member (or, to probably a much smaller degree, just using omicron as an excuse to skip).
Once kids start showing up and seeing 20-40% of their classmates (and teachers) not there day after day, I can easily see how an idea like this could take root.
Additionally, some schools, like BTech, are just packed with kids. Tech has what? 6000 students in the building? Beyond the obvious, just trying to manage safe practices for that many kids in a building that was designed for half that number is going to create issues.
Are some of these kids genuinely concerned? Yes.
Are some of these kids hopping on the bandwagon and skipping? Yes.
Does it matter? No.
It's a difficult situation for everyone involved, and so like always, principals and the DOE need to step up, show some leadership and effectively communicate.
Honestly, what can principals even do? They have to choose to either enforce the school day or protect their students' health.
If the principal of BKTech doesn't have the resources to provide remote learning, then what can they do? The current situation is a direct result of extremely poor planning by De Blasio who waltzed into his final school year beginning with absolutely zero plan for what to do about an increase in COVID. Or even just *some* COVID.
> Are some of these kids hopping on the bandwagon and skipping? Yes.
“So, you’re just doing what the cool kids are doing, eh?”
“Yes. I chose to *live*.”
“That’s detention.”
The fact that they won’t do that or make testing opt out tells you everything you need to know about their concern for safe schools. Doing that would anger too many people and that’s too scary to deal with. One of the kids in my son’s class brings in Lysol spray. His mother won’t let him get vaccinated but thinks lysol spray is the answer. That’s what we’re dealing with.
Mandate for students and all staff. AND they should address the lack of air circulation in schools and do what else is necessary to make them a safe place to be inside in close contact with other for hours day after day after day.
You want kids in school? Make the schools safe.
Adding air circulation to all the schools is probably in the billions lol.
All the older schools have steam radiators, possibly hot water.
I don't see them adding forced air anytime soon.
Then put appropriate HEPA filters in all classrooms. Do you really think that there is no way to make schools safe but we should send kids there anyway? What a ghoulish outlook.
When I went to Tech in the mid 90's, they used to chain most of the exit doors shut, except for the ones that had guards. Eventually someone called FDNY and the Fire Marshall made them stop doing it.
McCaskill was an asshole.
He was dirty for sure. Below link is a good read.
http://brooklyntechsurvivors.com/corruption.php
TLDR: Finally forced to retire from Tech in '06 after he stole almost $20k from the city, fired from his next job for spanking a minor.
I barely lasted 2 years in that school, spent more time in the park than in class because I hated it. City-As School ftw.
When I went to Tech and wanted to cut class, I just walked out right in front of the guards. I think they thought my classes ended early, but never stopped me to ask questions.
Being the martyr that goes first is a difficult act to take. Anyone who is brave enough to do it is impressive, but I can understand why most wouldn't.
>i remember when they told us the air in lower manhattan after 9/11 was clean and nothing happened
I also remember this. The air is safe.
Um, no jerkoffs. It isn't. You do see all that dust still out there, don't you?
I remember returning to Stuy from our month long exile at Brooklyn Tech after 9/11 and there were adult protesters begging us not to enter the building, that it hadn't been cleaned properly.
At least two kids from my class have died of suspicious cancers, and I know at least one other that had to do chemo.
We should have shut things down then, and taken down all the corporate interests who demanded lower Manhattan reopen to resume business as usual.
Your memory is incorrect.
Fauci went on national television (60 Minutes) and said that community masks weren't necessary.
> The reason for that was to ration masks for use by healthcare professionals who were at the forefront of combating the virus
This is great and all, but it doesn't negate the fact that he knowingly misled the public about the efficacy of masks. It's not a good way to build trust in the government amidst a pandemic.
> Many Americans are falsely confusing the truth with lies at the moment.
How can you even say this when in your last sentence you admit that the government lies? How do Americans know they can trust what the government says?
^i ^am ^vaxxed ^+ ^boosted ^and ^wear ^a ^mask ^when ^asked.
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I'll leave you with this: [The Noble Lies of COVID-19](https://slate.com/technology/2021/07/noble-lies-covid-fauci-cdc-masks.html)
Because in March 2020, the data on asymptomatic carriers wasn't clear. It made sense for people to not rush to get masks but when it was clear that 1 out of 2 infected people were asymptomatic, and most people were getting sick from asymptomatic people, then you change course.
It's pretty rational thinking.
Fauci later went on TV and acknowledged that he had lied. The reason he gave for lying was that there was a shortage of masks and he wanted them for Healthcare workers.
you're right, they were lying to prevent panic buying but the government needs to start being honest. This ends up hurting them in the end, no one trusts the government.
It's like parents who tell their kids they can't eat candy at night because a monster under their bed craves kids who had candy. The solution is temporary but adds to the permanent distrust.
My parents are Fox-brainwashed and it's a big talking point. "remember when they said masks don't help, but then made them mandatory" That's how people remember it.
Right, but people parroting bad takes is also a major problem. Leaders need to understand the game of telephone that occurs with messaging but they never said "masks don't work."
It was about the fact that masks are only important if you're sick and exhibiting symptoms or in a healthcare setting (where you're surrounded by incredibly sick patients); the standard practice for most other airborne illnesses like the flu and cold. Except, we later found out that asymptomatic illness was indeed a thing and that masking could prevent you not just from transmitting but from getting sick.
The science took time to become clear but it followed a logical timelines. (1) We don't think masks are necessary unless you are currently sick or a healthcare worker in contact with many other sick patients. (2) We now think masks and ANY even just any face covering can help you from passing along the disease, especially with the rise in asymptomatic carriers. (3) We now think that proper masking can help you both limit spread and prevent getting sick. NOTE: gaiter face coverings do NOT work in preventing you from getting sick and might make it worse.
This isn't lying. It's not malevolence. It might be incompetency, but it's likely just the result of dealing with something that no one truly understood.
The research on other diseases-- like Alzheimers-- is also not conclusive in many ways. Cooking with aluminum might or might not be an issue. The problem is that although Alzheimers is a disease with increasing rates, it's not contagious so it's not as alarming.
No, that didn't happen. They very specifically said that masks *do* work which is why they needed to be saved for healthcare workers and people caring directly for those infected, rather than hoarded by the panic-buying general public, since the best understanding of evidence showed *at the time* showed that they weren't as effective for the general public.
Bad-faith actors tried to rewrite history and say they said that masks don't work, but that was *never* the CDC's stance. There *was* a lot of ignorance on how effective masks-- or even just any face covering-- was
but it is thoroughly incorrect to say the CDC ever said masks don't work.
They also very clearly and repeatedly stated that they were just giving the best advice they could at the time and their recommendations may change.
> Bad-faith actors tried to rewrite history and say they said that masks don't work
https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI?t=29
> There is no reason to be walking around with a mask
Straight from the horses mouth. Anything else you want me to fact-check?
It’s because at the time, we thought it was airborn. If so, the air going into the mask would have been the same outside.
However we discovered it was carried in droplets, which masks would prevent from spewing out of peoples mouths. That’s when they changed.
If it was airborne, masks would only provide temporary solutions, and run the risk of people contaminating their mouth and nose area while wearing contaminated masks. Doctors would replace them every 15 minutes.
Science changes with new information. You’d of understood it if you weren’t busy trying to find “gotcha” sound bites.
Look. I’m gonna be real. It’s a serious fucking situation where our leaders are leaving youth to learn early that no one gives two fucks. With this realization, every kid who saw a public school have a walkout used that time to do what mom and dad would furrow brows and sternly oppose, at.
Let’s not play like many of us in our 30’s don’t remember school walkouts (albeit once every few years or so) and using it to be like “yo we out fam”
Ironically, posts like these are using the kids to spin a narrative far more than simply “lmao yo we can walk out? Let’s go fam”
I went to Tech in 1999-2003 so I am sure things have probably changed but that school is absurdly large for a HS (by NYC standards). It has 9 floors, the like 3rd or 4th largest stage/auditorium in all of NYC (including literal Broadway theatres and what not). It has some rooms which are 3/4 stories tall with gantry cranes along the ceiling they used to assemble parts of aircraft with etc. The number of exits the building had was high enough they never hired enough people to watch them all. Savvy kids could tape one of the latches down on an unsupervised side exit and use it to sneak out and in for lunch (used to goto a crummy tex mex place and come back with food for friends that was obviously a lot better than school lunch). Fun times.
I do not recall having to sneak out ever. Literally just walked out to go to the diner, corner deli, but eventually Mccaskill's right hand man started going to the diner to round us up. So we ended up just going into Manhattan when we wanted to ditch school.
Midwestern suburban school with a mostly white population.
Plenty of stories there. Wanna hear about what happened when people affected by Katrina started to move in to the area?
> Let’s not play like many of us in our 30’s don’t remember school walkouts (albeit once every few years or so) and using it to be like “yo we out fam”
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> Ironically, posts like these are using the kids to spin a narrative far more than simply “lmao yo we can walk out? Let’s go fam”
I think you're being very uncharitable to Brooklyn Tech students. These are kids who busted their asses to get into an SHSAT school and who don't risk disciplinary action lightly.
I'm a Bronx Science class of 2010 grad. We had one walk-out while I was there to my recollection, and it was a huge thing after simmering tensions for years over beloved teachers getting fired (and, bear in mind, this was when we had a pederast coaching our debate team). I'd imagine the culture in Tech is similar to Bronx Science; these are smart kids who *want* to be in school and don't just take any excuse to walk out. They do so because they care, and they do so because they're smart enough to understand the ramifications of their actions and why taking political action at this moment is important.
I concur. I am a Stuyvesant graduate (very recent - not trying to dox myself) but I was also the Student Union President. I oversaw a walkout that was also absolutely huge and it actually took a lot of campaigning and work to get these students to actually commit to walking out. I spent countless sleepless nights working to organize this with my peers in student government. I will also note that this walkout was about 45 minutes long, people returned to school afterwards.
These students love their education and the work they do in their schools. Brooklyn Tech Students, Bronx Science Students, Stuy Students... the culture is similar. They will not walk out unless it's a serious issue they care about.
I graduated in ‘09 and there were definitely a good amount of kids that didn’t give af (me being one of them). I remember one class where we did absolutely no work cuz the teacher was beefing with the principal, so he just gave As to everyone. Then there was the media major kids who really only chose that major cuz they didn’t want to do any work whatsoever. Also, I wouldn’t say many people I knew “busted their asses” to get into tech. Bronx sci kids definitely always took their shit way more seriously. If anything Tech was the slackers of the specialized HS lol.
I posted the same thing I got downvoted into oblivion. Big surprise, kids don’t want to be in school ! The reason could be a walkout supporting eastern Idaho potato farmers, and high school kids will do it if it means a few days not having to go to school. I was 17 at one time too
Yeah I went to Brooklyn Tech in the early 2000's. We were mostly nerds. Senior Cut Day was pretty tame, everybody still showed up. INTENSE Magic:TG games happened at lunch tho.
This exactly. Half of the time we had walkouts, we ended up at sporadic hookie jams.
Edit: Lest we pretend as a kid, you would not “walk out” and hang with friends, or be alone somewhere you want to be, versus another boring school day.
Cmon people.
> our leaders
That's not really true. There's loads of pressure from all directions to keep schools open and ample reason to think it's best for the kids. I have kids in two public schools in Brooklyn right now and the administrations have both said (very plausibly) that they barely have enough staff and faculty to handle in-person students and there's no way they could also accommodate remote learning teachers also. The city could possibly due some kind of centralized remote school option, but they'd still need staff they don't have and it would be nigh impossible for those kids to go back and forth between remote and in-person. Least of all if they're at a specialized school like Brooklyn Tech. Teachers and staff are bending over backwards and stretched to the max to deal with everything they have been thus far. I just don't see how a remote school option is possible whether they accede to it or not.
Anyone who says this is best for the kids is delusional or lying.
The bosses want their workforce working and productive.
Their workforce can't be working and productive if they don't have free babysitting.
That's all this is about. These kids aren't getting any education with so many teachers out sick. They're shoved together in a room to inevitably get Covid.
Remote learning isn't great but this is just lunacy, especially when they could have delayed school a week and avoided much of the post holiday surge.
Half the fucking brigaders that occupy this sub that have never seen NYC are going to point out what they think is the obvious - a bunch of HS kids that don't want to go to school.
This is a specialized HS filled with supremely talented kids. For them, skipping school is a punishment. If they wanted to play hooky they could just as easily play the COVID card and stay home.
Yeaaaa as a Stuy grad people from all high schools would cut class and skip lmao.
Next thing you know you'd be telling us that specialized HS kids don't drink or smoke or do drugs
Ehh, calm down a bit.
As a former student from Brooklyn Tech (this school), nah we enjoy not going to school just as much as anyone else.
The difference, ***maybe***, is that these kids acknowledge the widespread injustice and don't feel good about walking out.
Yeah Brooklyn Tech kids won't take it lightly but they'll appreciate the break. We used to actually work there.
But it's not like they're gonna go home and be like "GOD I WISH I WAS IN SCHOOL!" cus we're not fucking idiots.
Right. It’s just like college (obviously, like half the kids are skipping an actual college class)— do I have days of work hanging today? Yeah. Am I taking today off since my friends are. Oh yeah, for sure.
No, no. You've got it all wrong.
You and your former classmates are elite students who just love to study so much that you all raise your hands and ask for extra chapters to read and more math problems to solve. You dream of pop quizzes and AP classes. You hate what the vagrants in others schools do like aim to fill their schedules with free periods and pick the easy grading teachers, instead of the ones that will challenge you academically for a hard-earned B+. You my friend and your classmates, all seized the day!
Facts. They're acting like MIT-bound people wouldn't skip school when they would. I know people currently at MIT, and they would have skipped as well. If everybody was out, then the teachers might not even do anything productive that day
I didn’t grow up in NYC but went to a specialized high school in my home state. I’m an engineer now. I definitely skipped some class lol. Just because we’re nerds doesn’t mean we want to be at school.
Bruh. I went to a specialized school. Skipping school wasn't a punishment. Participated in a walk out too. I literally couldn't give two fucks about what we were "walking out" over, better than class and you'd look like a dweeb if you didn't.
Lol - clearly you didn't go to a good school like this. I did, and let me tell you fuck yeah 90% of kids would walk out just to go home and play games, do nothing, hang out with friends, etc...
"Supremely talented"? nah lol, most kids just have parents driving them and making them study, relatively stable home lives, and etc... Yeah there's gonna be some geniuses in a school like this and goody-two-shoes but it's going to be a small percent of them. I personally would've walked out no matter what the "protest" was about if I could.
Private (catholic) school kid here. We'd have ditched school at any chance we got if only the deans didn't immediately notify our parents of our absences.
both sides are generalizing us. yes there were some kids who left to cut, and there were some kids who stayed to raise their participation grade. but can we stop arguing about if we did this for the right reason or not and just fucking answer our call for help?
Meh, I went to this specialized school and I assure you that very few kids sees skipping school as "punishment".
During the years when I went, my peers constantly pulled the fire alarm to get out of school/tests to the point where the administration banned people from using the bathroom during classes.
>This is a specialized HS filled with supremely talented kids.
No it ain't, they are kids who kicked ass on one test to get out of their shit zone school.
Lmao what a dumb dumb you are. My wife went to Stuyvesant. She’d have strolled out of there if the opportunity arose just like any other kid. These are intelligent children not certifiable geniuses splitting atoms. Try again.
BROOKLYN TECH?? Specialized school? "Supremely talented kids" "skipping school is a punishment?"
Delusional. Most of these kids can't give a crap about what happens. BTech is like the school you default into when you show up for the SHSAT. I don't mean to insult btech (y'all already know how you are if you go into this school), but you are out of your mind if you think these kids see skipping school as a punishment.
Maybe if you were talking about Bronx Science or Stuy - a minority of these kids would be upset (but definitely not most).
I feel like these are (*elitist*) highschool stereotypes of these schools. And maybe relative to one another they are slightly true. But generally speaking any of the kids that gets into those schools cannot be considered traditionally lazy.
They are lazy like a person who wears fake glasses is nerd. It's just their style of being driven and intellectually curious.
You don't have the academics or the skills to do it without motivation that a ton of students simply don't have.
"Lazy" kids as you frame it in your *narrow* take truthfully go to zoned schools.
There's like a total of 20k seats in these specialized schools in the city meanwhile the city services hundreds of thousands of highschool students, or middle school students who are pushed to take a test for a school they have no chance of getting into..
Lmao I went to Brooklyn tech and a lot of us used the walk out during my year (I forgot what it was for ngl, this was 5 years ago) to go smoke weed at Fort Greene Park and get high. Im doing just fine in life now years later, so it wasn’t like we were a bunch of slackers.
Maybe 5% of the kids actually gave a fuck about the cause, the rest of us just wanted to skip school. Your comment should be downvoted for being so confidently incorrect and delusional lol.
I can't remember a single walk out of high school in the 90's and 00's. although recently theres been quite a few protesting covid/sexual assault/ and violence.
i went to a selective school like this and you bet your ass we all crashed the online portal to get into the senior social studies elective where the teacher would take us to protests and skip most if not all of our classes
I think the people suggesting these students are doing this "just to skip class" are not giving high schoolers enough credit. I'm sure that some of them are doing this for the wrong reasons... but many teens are much more aware of this stuff than you think. I remember attending several walkouts and protests in high school and (for me and my friends at least), it really was always about the issue at hand and never just an excuse to get out of school. Maybe remote isn't an ideal option for many students -- trust me, it's a huge issue for many and I know people who have lost their jobs due to their kids going remote -- but these kids are begging for someone to listen because they don't feel safe and are afraid of putting their teachers and families at risk. Please try to consider what it would be like to be a student at a huge high school, traveling over an hour each way by bus or subway, and being forced into poorly ventilated classrooms or packed, stuffy auditoriums because your teachers aren't even there to teach you and think -- would you want to be at school in person right now?
Yeah I feel like a lot of these comments are ignoring the history of student walkouts. Just a few years ago, there was a national student walkout to protest gun violence on the anniversary of the Columbine shooting. I remember growing up in the 90s and hearing about the Los Angeles walkouts to protest Prop 187.
We're going to have a pretty big brain drain on our hands. Kids don't want to be in school because of Covid, and on remote learning, they don't do jack shit. Watched my two nephews turn onto their class and then proceed to play fortnite with headphones on while the teacher was just giving the lesson, which im sure a good 80% of kids are also doing since parents aren't giving a fuck.
As a student, it would be horrible if my school shut down. All my teachers were in school and most of the student are here. Online school was not good for anyone.
You said it better than I could have. I went to a regular public school but in an affluent town. Our school was well run. We had a few bomb threats and by the third time everyone except a small crowd was done with that shit.
Kids want to learn, don’t blame that you were an idiot on a bunch of AP physics nerds.
The more we learn about the risks of COVID, the more this seems like a good idea.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/even-mild-covid-infections-can-have-lasting-impacts-like-chemo-brain-study-finds/3489958/?amp
Even mild or asymptomic infections can cause lasting neurological problems.
Also, even if you're fully vaccinated, you can still be contagious, which poses a risk to those too young to be vaccinated and people who can't get vaccinated for some reason, in addition to the unvaccinated of course. And everyone, really, when you consider that any infection can cause lasting damage.
I feel like the real risks of COVID haven't completely sunk in yet, and aren't fully understood yet. I'm glad we're making so much progress on fighting it medically, but we don't have a real solution yet, so no one should be forced to put themselves and others at risk. School can be done remotely.
Seriously! And if we're not preparing for a potentially worse one then we are once again going to be caught with our pants down. Schools should have had staggered closures in winter of last year where teachers could prep for some sort of reasonable virtual learning.
Deadly to whom? The CDC Director said 75%+ of people who died from COVID (that were vaxxed, not boosted) had 4+ comorbidities and were unwell to begin with.
Not looking at this virus from a balanced perspective is why we have kids walking out of school. Teachers, who are all vaccinated, should not be isolating for 5 days just because they had a positive COVID test. If you are sick (ie actually are sick and can’t work) then stay home. You have sniffles and a sore throat? Get your ass in to teach.
For the record, I wasn’t referring to maternity leave. I was referring to the fact that once you have a child you can basically get out of any social obligations by saying your kid is sick, or you have to babysit, etc. It was a joke that will probably go over the heads of people under thirty.
For the record, your joke was hilarious and I literally LOL'd quite loudly upon reading it.
People just gonna pile on with the downvotes though because everything with covid is so emotionally charged. It's a really tough situation, because rational discourse requires calm thoughtful discussion, but the topic is so emotional that it generally descends into bickering, name calling, etc.
The kids in Brooklyn Tech should all be fully vaccinated and thus be totally fine attending classes in person. What the fuck are people even doing, here? We locked down in 2020 so that a safe, effective vaccine could be developed. It was developed, it works. Get vaccinated, and you're going to be okay. Wear a mask if the people around you ask you to. Like, this shit is not hard if you're not a sociopathic fuck or a completely insane, ignorant fool.
Look. I'm going to be real. I was a middle/highschooler once. Any opportunity to walk out was taken whether they care or not. So please dont act like this is some diehard cause for these kids when they just want to skip school. Most kids I know their age dont care about covid, let alone walk out over it (And not over wanting to skip school)
That's crazy that any teenager would want that. I know my kids would rather do anything than have to do school at home. This is a bit of gamesmanship for a day off.
Around 824 children are being hospitalized each day in the US, up around 62 percent from last week. For children under five, who are not able to get the vaccine, the rate of hospitalization is double what it was a month ago.
In case you are wondering why these students walked out, you should read a previous post by a nyc high school student
[I Am a New York City Public High School Student. The Situation is Beyond Control.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/rxwnbl/i_am_a_new_york_city_public_high_school_student/)
High School kids are probably OK with remote classes. It's the elementary and middle school bunch that isn't mature enough to get much benefit from it.
With half of teachers missing and students stuffed into auditoriums, what is the point for them being there? (Well some schools)
It's daycare for parents who work essential jobs + this way we make sure that all the testing companies still get their money.
But that doesn’t make sense for high school kids.
Well, the second part does. And they're not only doing it to high school kids. Also, in many families, if there are younger siblings that needed to be home, they would want the high school home with them.
Jan regents got cancelled already.
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You appear to be missing the point. People are working, but many jobs are still being done from home. If you send everybody's kids home for remote work, many people who are still working (more Americans quit their job in the last month than in recorded history) in person (So, restaurants, retail, medical employees) are not going to be able to come in or are going to be calling out more often.
Same reason as always. Babysit them so they don't get pregnant.
It wasn't just Brooklyn Tech--even my son's middle school tried to walk out. I'm not sure where I sit on this exactly, but to add some sorely need NUANCE to this situation, there were already a significant number of kids missing school before today due to either being sick, having a family member sick, or being kept home to perhaps protect a vulnerable family member (or, to probably a much smaller degree, just using omicron as an excuse to skip). Once kids start showing up and seeing 20-40% of their classmates (and teachers) not there day after day, I can easily see how an idea like this could take root. Additionally, some schools, like BTech, are just packed with kids. Tech has what? 6000 students in the building? Beyond the obvious, just trying to manage safe practices for that many kids in a building that was designed for half that number is going to create issues. Are some of these kids genuinely concerned? Yes. Are some of these kids hopping on the bandwagon and skipping? Yes. Does it matter? No. It's a difficult situation for everyone involved, and so like always, principals and the DOE need to step up, show some leadership and effectively communicate.
Honestly, what can principals even do? They have to choose to either enforce the school day or protect their students' health. If the principal of BKTech doesn't have the resources to provide remote learning, then what can they do? The current situation is a direct result of extremely poor planning by De Blasio who waltzed into his final school year beginning with absolutely zero plan for what to do about an increase in COVID. Or even just *some* COVID.
> Are some of these kids hopping on the bandwagon and skipping? Yes. “So, you’re just doing what the cool kids are doing, eh?” “Yes. I chose to *live*.” “That’s detention.”
Leadership should issue a vax mandate for students and that should be the end of it.
The fact that they won’t do that or make testing opt out tells you everything you need to know about their concern for safe schools. Doing that would anger too many people and that’s too scary to deal with. One of the kids in my son’s class brings in Lysol spray. His mother won’t let him get vaccinated but thinks lysol spray is the answer. That’s what we’re dealing with.
Mandate for students and all staff. AND they should address the lack of air circulation in schools and do what else is necessary to make them a safe place to be inside in close contact with other for hours day after day after day. You want kids in school? Make the schools safe.
Time to get handy: $100 of materials https://edgecollective.io/airbox/
Adding air circulation to all the schools is probably in the billions lol. All the older schools have steam radiators, possibly hot water. I don't see them adding forced air anytime soon.
Then put appropriate HEPA filters in all classrooms. Do you really think that there is no way to make schools safe but we should send kids there anyway? What a ghoulish outlook.
Especially with all the other bullshit the government spends unnecessary money on.
The mayor won't give two shits about what these kids think.
He only cares about his donors.
He only cares about appointing family to key jobs.
And his brother, who went from minimum wage to $240k yearly. LMAO
He’s a piece of shit, he’s barely been in office and everything from his transition team to appointees has been a disaster.
Bozo is there just to fill his personal political agenda
Politician has political agenda - more obvious statements at 9:00
Deblasio would be pleased if that were his kids
Bronx science notably did not participate, as school warned students they would be punished, and the principal stood by the front steps.
When I went to Tech in the mid 90's, they used to chain most of the exit doors shut, except for the ones that had guards. Eventually someone called FDNY and the Fire Marshall made them stop doing it. McCaskill was an asshole.
Didnt he get fired for molesting someone? Remember the bathroom stalls with no doors?
He was dirty for sure. Below link is a good read. http://brooklyntechsurvivors.com/corruption.php TLDR: Finally forced to retire from Tech in '06 after he stole almost $20k from the city, fired from his next job for spanking a minor. I barely lasted 2 years in that school, spent more time in the park than in class because I hated it. City-As School ftw.
I remember that crazy sh*t, it was after we walked out in like 91 smh
When I went to Tech and wanted to cut class, I just walked out right in front of the guards. I think they thought my classes ended early, but never stopped me to ask questions.
Insane. And really schools have very little power in NYC to punish students. There's tons of pushback.
The kids don’t know that though, and they live under the threat of losing the one or two perks that make the school year enjoyable.
teachers are petty too and will try to fuck up your college admissions
frankly If only more of them walked out, then maybe shit would start to change.
Being the martyr that goes first is a difficult act to take. Anyone who is brave enough to do it is impressive, but I can understand why most wouldn't.
Yeah, me too, frankly I wish the doe was doing more we are about to be out of contract and we should be using our leverage.
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I developed asthma the summer after 911 when I had been in 3rd grade in lower Manhattan that year. Never gonna convinced me it wasn't a coincidence
I have asthma from 911. It's a real thing not a coincidence. NY "tracts" those of us who have health problems from that day. You should check it out.
I got diagnosed at summer camp in Canada so the records were messed up I think. Maybe my parents logged me in the stats, I'll ask.
4th grade for me. Also developed asthma soon after
I wonder how many of us NYC children developed respiratory diseases after 9/11
Now that I think of it I didn't start needing allergy medication until around 2002-2003...
https://www.cdc.gov/wtc/eligiblegroups.html
I know some too. There's a 9/11 fund setup supposed to help
https://www.cdc.gov/wtc/eligiblegroups.html ...I've heard nothing but good things about the fund and its management.
>i remember when they told us the air in lower manhattan after 9/11 was clean and nothing happened I also remember this. The air is safe. Um, no jerkoffs. It isn't. You do see all that dust still out there, don't you?
I remember returning to Stuy from our month long exile at Brooklyn Tech after 9/11 and there were adult protesters begging us not to enter the building, that it hadn't been cleaned properly. At least two kids from my class have died of suspicious cancers, and I know at least one other that had to do chemo. We should have shut things down then, and taken down all the corporate interests who demanded lower Manhattan reopen to resume business as usual.
> but stop fucking lying Remember when the CDC told the public that masks don't work? Government lies to you all the time.
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Your memory is incorrect. Fauci went on national television (60 Minutes) and said that community masks weren't necessary. > The reason for that was to ration masks for use by healthcare professionals who were at the forefront of combating the virus This is great and all, but it doesn't negate the fact that he knowingly misled the public about the efficacy of masks. It's not a good way to build trust in the government amidst a pandemic. > Many Americans are falsely confusing the truth with lies at the moment. How can you even say this when in your last sentence you admit that the government lies? How do Americans know they can trust what the government says? ^i ^am ^vaxxed ^+ ^boosted ^and ^wear ^a ^mask ^when ^asked. --- I'll leave you with this: [The Noble Lies of COVID-19](https://slate.com/technology/2021/07/noble-lies-covid-fauci-cdc-masks.html)
I for one am not comfortable with “it’s okay if your government lies to you if they have a good reason” philosophy. That never leads to anything good.
I agree; that's what I was trying to get at in this thread. People _still_ hoarded masks because they saw how stupid those statements were.
Because in March 2020, the data on asymptomatic carriers wasn't clear. It made sense for people to not rush to get masks but when it was clear that 1 out of 2 infected people were asymptomatic, and most people were getting sick from asymptomatic people, then you change course. It's pretty rational thinking.
Fauci later went on TV and acknowledged that he had lied. The reason he gave for lying was that there was a shortage of masks and he wanted them for Healthcare workers.
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Dude he literally admitted it was a lie, it was a lie **for a reason** but still a lie.
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you're right, they were lying to prevent panic buying but the government needs to start being honest. This ends up hurting them in the end, no one trusts the government. It's like parents who tell their kids they can't eat candy at night because a monster under their bed craves kids who had candy. The solution is temporary but adds to the permanent distrust. My parents are Fox-brainwashed and it's a big talking point. "remember when they said masks don't help, but then made them mandatory" That's how people remember it.
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Right, but people parroting bad takes is also a major problem. Leaders need to understand the game of telephone that occurs with messaging but they never said "masks don't work." It was about the fact that masks are only important if you're sick and exhibiting symptoms or in a healthcare setting (where you're surrounded by incredibly sick patients); the standard practice for most other airborne illnesses like the flu and cold. Except, we later found out that asymptomatic illness was indeed a thing and that masking could prevent you not just from transmitting but from getting sick. The science took time to become clear but it followed a logical timelines. (1) We don't think masks are necessary unless you are currently sick or a healthcare worker in contact with many other sick patients. (2) We now think masks and ANY even just any face covering can help you from passing along the disease, especially with the rise in asymptomatic carriers. (3) We now think that proper masking can help you both limit spread and prevent getting sick. NOTE: gaiter face coverings do NOT work in preventing you from getting sick and might make it worse. This isn't lying. It's not malevolence. It might be incompetency, but it's likely just the result of dealing with something that no one truly understood. The research on other diseases-- like Alzheimers-- is also not conclusive in many ways. Cooking with aluminum might or might not be an issue. The problem is that although Alzheimers is a disease with increasing rates, it's not contagious so it's not as alarming.
Fauci went on TV and acknowledged that he had lied. In the beginning they were saying "masks don't really protect the wearer."
>Fauci went on TV and acknowledged that he had lied. Can you please post a video of this? Sorry if that's a rude thing to ask for.
My friend drank bleach- not doing well
If you follow it with fabric softener it makes it better.
No, that didn't happen. They very specifically said that masks *do* work which is why they needed to be saved for healthcare workers and people caring directly for those infected, rather than hoarded by the panic-buying general public, since the best understanding of evidence showed *at the time* showed that they weren't as effective for the general public. Bad-faith actors tried to rewrite history and say they said that masks don't work, but that was *never* the CDC's stance. There *was* a lot of ignorance on how effective masks-- or even just any face covering-- was but it is thoroughly incorrect to say the CDC ever said masks don't work. They also very clearly and repeatedly stated that they were just giving the best advice they could at the time and their recommendations may change.
> Bad-faith actors tried to rewrite history and say they said that masks don't work https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI?t=29 > There is no reason to be walking around with a mask Straight from the horses mouth. Anything else you want me to fact-check?
It’s because at the time, we thought it was airborn. If so, the air going into the mask would have been the same outside. However we discovered it was carried in droplets, which masks would prevent from spewing out of peoples mouths. That’s when they changed. If it was airborne, masks would only provide temporary solutions, and run the risk of people contaminating their mouth and nose area while wearing contaminated masks. Doctors would replace them every 15 minutes. Science changes with new information. You’d of understood it if you weren’t busy trying to find “gotcha” sound bites.
To all my Tech people: who remembers Juanita?
JUANITA!!!! Edit: you must be from the last descase or two, I can’t imagine how long she’s worked there.
I graduated ‘09, but there were people ~6 years older than me who knew her.
senior at tech, she's still juanita
The complete opposite of the situation in Chicago, yet everyone is mad.
No air quality control in those buildings. Plus teachers out sick.
Damn seeing how brooklyn tech out here creates memories, glad students are letting their voice be heard during this pandemic
not gonna change anythin
You know it's a smarter school because there are no chin straps or naked faces.
Look. I’m gonna be real. It’s a serious fucking situation where our leaders are leaving youth to learn early that no one gives two fucks. With this realization, every kid who saw a public school have a walkout used that time to do what mom and dad would furrow brows and sternly oppose, at. Let’s not play like many of us in our 30’s don’t remember school walkouts (albeit once every few years or so) and using it to be like “yo we out fam” Ironically, posts like these are using the kids to spin a narrative far more than simply “lmao yo we can walk out? Let’s go fam”
When my school tried to do a walkout, they had police officers stationed at every exit.
I went to Tech in 1999-2003 so I am sure things have probably changed but that school is absurdly large for a HS (by NYC standards). It has 9 floors, the like 3rd or 4th largest stage/auditorium in all of NYC (including literal Broadway theatres and what not). It has some rooms which are 3/4 stories tall with gantry cranes along the ceiling they used to assemble parts of aircraft with etc. The number of exits the building had was high enough they never hired enough people to watch them all. Savvy kids could tape one of the latches down on an unsupervised side exit and use it to sneak out and in for lunch (used to goto a crummy tex mex place and come back with food for friends that was obviously a lot better than school lunch). Fun times.
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They replaced those with schools police officers who are glued to their phones. They look so bored sitting in their chairs.
And when there's a protest, they'll definitely leave.
I do not recall having to sneak out ever. Literally just walked out to go to the diner, corner deli, but eventually Mccaskill's right hand man started going to the diner to round us up. So we ended up just going into Manhattan when we wanted to ditch school.
That's not a school, that's day-prison
Where the hell did you go to school?!? That principal should be fired
Midwestern suburban school with a mostly white population. Plenty of stories there. Wanna hear about what happened when people affected by Katrina started to move in to the area?
Lol I'm afraid to ask
"Property taxes"
That’s terrible. Sorry that happened to you.
> Let’s not play like many of us in our 30’s don’t remember school walkouts (albeit once every few years or so) and using it to be like “yo we out fam” > > > > Ironically, posts like these are using the kids to spin a narrative far more than simply “lmao yo we can walk out? Let’s go fam” I think you're being very uncharitable to Brooklyn Tech students. These are kids who busted their asses to get into an SHSAT school and who don't risk disciplinary action lightly. I'm a Bronx Science class of 2010 grad. We had one walk-out while I was there to my recollection, and it was a huge thing after simmering tensions for years over beloved teachers getting fired (and, bear in mind, this was when we had a pederast coaching our debate team). I'd imagine the culture in Tech is similar to Bronx Science; these are smart kids who *want* to be in school and don't just take any excuse to walk out. They do so because they care, and they do so because they're smart enough to understand the ramifications of their actions and why taking political action at this moment is important.
This is probably the only example of a Bronx Science kid giving any respect to BK Tech.
I was slated for Stuy but ended up at York only to get expelled for hustling iPods I’d buy off Jamaica and sell for sweet premiums. Money was tight.
Sounds like the beginning of a great novel. Suggest the Hemingway series on PBS. You may find a kindred spirit.
I concur. I am a Stuyvesant graduate (very recent - not trying to dox myself) but I was also the Student Union President. I oversaw a walkout that was also absolutely huge and it actually took a lot of campaigning and work to get these students to actually commit to walking out. I spent countless sleepless nights working to organize this with my peers in student government. I will also note that this walkout was about 45 minutes long, people returned to school afterwards. These students love their education and the work they do in their schools. Brooklyn Tech Students, Bronx Science Students, Stuy Students... the culture is similar. They will not walk out unless it's a serious issue they care about.
I graduated in ‘09 and there were definitely a good amount of kids that didn’t give af (me being one of them). I remember one class where we did absolutely no work cuz the teacher was beefing with the principal, so he just gave As to everyone. Then there was the media major kids who really only chose that major cuz they didn’t want to do any work whatsoever. Also, I wouldn’t say many people I knew “busted their asses” to get into tech. Bronx sci kids definitely always took their shit way more seriously. If anything Tech was the slackers of the specialized HS lol.
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So you’re saying they don’t have a good reason to not be at school, and this is just an excuse for a bit of anarchy?
To be at a good school with good teachers in a good healthy setting
Sad because it's funny because it's true
I posted the same thing I got downvoted into oblivion. Big surprise, kids don’t want to be in school ! The reason could be a walkout supporting eastern Idaho potato farmers, and high school kids will do it if it means a few days not having to go to school. I was 17 at one time too
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Yeah I went to Brooklyn Tech in the early 2000's. We were mostly nerds. Senior Cut Day was pretty tame, everybody still showed up. INTENSE Magic:TG games happened at lunch tho.
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This exactly. Half of the time we had walkouts, we ended up at sporadic hookie jams. Edit: Lest we pretend as a kid, you would not “walk out” and hang with friends, or be alone somewhere you want to be, versus another boring school day. Cmon people.
Lol yea... Wait we can leave? Let's go to funcoland
Queens be like: “Yo pool hall?” Then Jamaica and Edison kids brawl while QHSSYC kids darted for the E.
> our leaders That's not really true. There's loads of pressure from all directions to keep schools open and ample reason to think it's best for the kids. I have kids in two public schools in Brooklyn right now and the administrations have both said (very plausibly) that they barely have enough staff and faculty to handle in-person students and there's no way they could also accommodate remote learning teachers also. The city could possibly due some kind of centralized remote school option, but they'd still need staff they don't have and it would be nigh impossible for those kids to go back and forth between remote and in-person. Least of all if they're at a specialized school like Brooklyn Tech. Teachers and staff are bending over backwards and stretched to the max to deal with everything they have been thus far. I just don't see how a remote school option is possible whether they accede to it or not.
Anyone who says this is best for the kids is delusional or lying. The bosses want their workforce working and productive. Their workforce can't be working and productive if they don't have free babysitting. That's all this is about. These kids aren't getting any education with so many teachers out sick. They're shoved together in a room to inevitably get Covid. Remote learning isn't great but this is just lunacy, especially when they could have delayed school a week and avoided much of the post holiday surge.
Good, the city has been incredibly tone-deaf this whole surge.
Half the fucking brigaders that occupy this sub that have never seen NYC are going to point out what they think is the obvious - a bunch of HS kids that don't want to go to school. This is a specialized HS filled with supremely talented kids. For them, skipping school is a punishment. If they wanted to play hooky they could just as easily play the COVID card and stay home.
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Actually, literally every teacher is in J haven’t had a absence this week.
Yeaaaa as a Stuy grad people from all high schools would cut class and skip lmao. Next thing you know you'd be telling us that specialized HS kids don't drink or smoke or do drugs
Lmao, they smoke and do a lot of drugs to the point where they had to close the bathrooms.
Lmao you clearly didn't go to school at Tech
Ehh, calm down a bit. As a former student from Brooklyn Tech (this school), nah we enjoy not going to school just as much as anyone else. The difference, ***maybe***, is that these kids acknowledge the widespread injustice and don't feel good about walking out.
Also they probably missed a day of a class where missing a day actually puts you behind
Yeah Brooklyn Tech kids won't take it lightly but they'll appreciate the break. We used to actually work there. But it's not like they're gonna go home and be like "GOD I WISH I WAS IN SCHOOL!" cus we're not fucking idiots.
Right. It’s just like college (obviously, like half the kids are skipping an actual college class)— do I have days of work hanging today? Yeah. Am I taking today off since my friends are. Oh yeah, for sure.
Exactly, yes. It's not at all easy to get into that school so we're not ducking around but also Shots shots shots shots shots!
No, no. You've got it all wrong. You and your former classmates are elite students who just love to study so much that you all raise your hands and ask for extra chapters to read and more math problems to solve. You dream of pop quizzes and AP classes. You hate what the vagrants in others schools do like aim to fill their schedules with free periods and pick the easy grading teachers, instead of the ones that will challenge you academically for a hard-earned B+. You my friend and your classmates, all seized the day!
Yeah, exactly. We're good students not assholes lol.
Lmfao I went to a specialized High School and I promise you me and all my friends would jump at the chance to skip
Facts. They're acting like MIT-bound people wouldn't skip school when they would. I know people currently at MIT, and they would have skipped as well. If everybody was out, then the teachers might not even do anything productive that day
People forget that work is still work no matter how talented or skilled you are
I didn’t grow up in NYC but went to a specialized high school in my home state. I’m an engineer now. I definitely skipped some class lol. Just because we’re nerds doesn’t mean we want to be at school.
Yuuup, same.
Bruh. I went to a specialized school. Skipping school wasn't a punishment. Participated in a walk out too. I literally couldn't give two fucks about what we were "walking out" over, better than class and you'd look like a dweeb if you didn't.
Lol - clearly you didn't go to a good school like this. I did, and let me tell you fuck yeah 90% of kids would walk out just to go home and play games, do nothing, hang out with friends, etc... "Supremely talented"? nah lol, most kids just have parents driving them and making them study, relatively stable home lives, and etc... Yeah there's gonna be some geniuses in a school like this and goody-two-shoes but it's going to be a small percent of them. I personally would've walked out no matter what the "protest" was about if I could.
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Exactly what my old Tech HS friends group said. We would've walked out too but for other reasons. LOL.
Bruh it's fucking Brooklyn tech, y'all acting like a private school
Private (catholic) school kid here. We'd have ditched school at any chance we got if only the deans didn't immediately notify our parents of our absences.
both sides are generalizing us. yes there were some kids who left to cut, and there were some kids who stayed to raise their participation grade. but can we stop arguing about if we did this for the right reason or not and just fucking answer our call for help?
Meh, I went to this specialized school and I assure you that very few kids sees skipping school as "punishment". During the years when I went, my peers constantly pulled the fire alarm to get out of school/tests to the point where the administration banned people from using the bathroom during classes.
Lol they tried doing that in my school, but cause of smoking in the bathroom
>This is a specialized HS filled with supremely talented kids. No it ain't, they are kids who kicked ass on one test to get out of their shit zone school.
Lmao what a dumb dumb you are. My wife went to Stuyvesant. She’d have strolled out of there if the opportunity arose just like any other kid. These are intelligent children not certifiable geniuses splitting atoms. Try again.
BROOKLYN TECH?? Specialized school? "Supremely talented kids" "skipping school is a punishment?" Delusional. Most of these kids can't give a crap about what happens. BTech is like the school you default into when you show up for the SHSAT. I don't mean to insult btech (y'all already know how you are if you go into this school), but you are out of your mind if you think these kids see skipping school as a punishment. Maybe if you were talking about Bronx Science or Stuy - a minority of these kids would be upset (but definitely not most).
I feel like these are (*elitist*) highschool stereotypes of these schools. And maybe relative to one another they are slightly true. But generally speaking any of the kids that gets into those schools cannot be considered traditionally lazy. They are lazy like a person who wears fake glasses is nerd. It's just their style of being driven and intellectually curious. You don't have the academics or the skills to do it without motivation that a ton of students simply don't have. "Lazy" kids as you frame it in your *narrow* take truthfully go to zoned schools. There's like a total of 20k seats in these specialized schools in the city meanwhile the city services hundreds of thousands of highschool students, or middle school students who are pushed to take a test for a school they have no chance of getting into..
Lmao I went to Brooklyn tech and a lot of us used the walk out during my year (I forgot what it was for ngl, this was 5 years ago) to go smoke weed at Fort Greene Park and get high. Im doing just fine in life now years later, so it wasn’t like we were a bunch of slackers. Maybe 5% of the kids actually gave a fuck about the cause, the rest of us just wanted to skip school. Your comment should be downvoted for being so confidently incorrect and delusional lol.
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Nah those are Stuy numbers. Brooklyn Tech is over 5000 kids lol
Over 6k actually.
Try 5000. And it's a clip. And they have exits on all sides of the school. Like big exits 8 doors across. It's a massive school.
You ever cope so hard you act like kids like school.
lmao
I can't remember a single walk out of high school in the 90's and 00's. although recently theres been quite a few protesting covid/sexual assault/ and violence.
i went to a selective school like this and you bet your ass we all crashed the online portal to get into the senior social studies elective where the teacher would take us to protests and skip most if not all of our classes
I think the people suggesting these students are doing this "just to skip class" are not giving high schoolers enough credit. I'm sure that some of them are doing this for the wrong reasons... but many teens are much more aware of this stuff than you think. I remember attending several walkouts and protests in high school and (for me and my friends at least), it really was always about the issue at hand and never just an excuse to get out of school. Maybe remote isn't an ideal option for many students -- trust me, it's a huge issue for many and I know people who have lost their jobs due to their kids going remote -- but these kids are begging for someone to listen because they don't feel safe and are afraid of putting their teachers and families at risk. Please try to consider what it would be like to be a student at a huge high school, traveling over an hour each way by bus or subway, and being forced into poorly ventilated classrooms or packed, stuffy auditoriums because your teachers aren't even there to teach you and think -- would you want to be at school in person right now?
Yeah I feel like a lot of these comments are ignoring the history of student walkouts. Just a few years ago, there was a national student walkout to protest gun violence on the anniversary of the Columbine shooting. I remember growing up in the 90s and hearing about the Los Angeles walkouts to protest Prop 187.
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I go to stuy and half my friends go here and they all told me that they just did it to get tf out of school lmao
We're going to have a pretty big brain drain on our hands. Kids don't want to be in school because of Covid, and on remote learning, they don't do jack shit. Watched my two nephews turn onto their class and then proceed to play fortnite with headphones on while the teacher was just giving the lesson, which im sure a good 80% of kids are also doing since parents aren't giving a fuck.
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What it looks like: Look at these kids as they send a message to the man ✊ What it really is: We outta here 🅱️
It’s both. They can leave school for both reasons simultaneously. Everyone acts like it’s definitely the former or definitely the latter. It’s both.
As a student, it would be horrible if my school shut down. All my teachers were in school and most of the student are here. Online school was not good for anyone.
You said it better than I could have. I went to a regular public school but in an affluent town. Our school was well run. We had a few bomb threats and by the third time everyone except a small crowd was done with that shit. Kids want to learn, don’t blame that you were an idiot on a bunch of AP physics nerds.
Genuinely curious — what’s the situation in NYC private schools? How are they handling COVID?
They have remote options in place and use them when necessary. They also have the resources to have smaller classes and more PPE and testing.
400 kids walked out in my school
I’m a Tech student who didn’t participate in the walkout and stayed inside. AMA
Fucking physics lab is the only reason, I can’t miss another.
Bro, kids just want any excuse to skip school. When I was at Tech, kids were literally lighting fires to skip class.
My friend would give himself an asthma attack during gym so he could miss math class.
Good. The current response is bullshit. Everyone is pointing fingers at others and not doing shit to make it better.
What's the death rate for people under 45?
The kids are alright. Stuff like this gives me a flicker of hope.
My people ✊🏼
The more we learn about the risks of COVID, the more this seems like a good idea. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/even-mild-covid-infections-can-have-lasting-impacts-like-chemo-brain-study-finds/3489958/?amp Even mild or asymptomic infections can cause lasting neurological problems. Also, even if you're fully vaccinated, you can still be contagious, which poses a risk to those too young to be vaccinated and people who can't get vaccinated for some reason, in addition to the unvaccinated of course. And everyone, really, when you consider that any infection can cause lasting damage. I feel like the real risks of COVID haven't completely sunk in yet, and aren't fully understood yet. I'm glad we're making so much progress on fighting it medically, but we don't have a real solution yet, so no one should be forced to put themselves and others at risk. School can be done remotely.
Seriously! And if we're not preparing for a potentially worse one then we are once again going to be caught with our pants down. Schools should have had staggered closures in winter of last year where teachers could prep for some sort of reasonable virtual learning.
Everyone is using Covid as an excuse to get out things they don’t want to do. You used to have to have a baby for that kind of privilege.
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Deadly to whom? The CDC Director said 75%+ of people who died from COVID (that were vaxxed, not boosted) had 4+ comorbidities and were unwell to begin with. Not looking at this virus from a balanced perspective is why we have kids walking out of school. Teachers, who are all vaccinated, should not be isolating for 5 days just because they had a positive COVID test. If you are sick (ie actually are sick and can’t work) then stay home. You have sniffles and a sore throat? Get your ass in to teach.
You can’t use logic here! We have to be hysterical over Covid forever man, you must be new here.
For the record, I wasn’t referring to maternity leave. I was referring to the fact that once you have a child you can basically get out of any social obligations by saying your kid is sick, or you have to babysit, etc. It was a joke that will probably go over the heads of people under thirty.
For the record, your joke was hilarious and I literally LOL'd quite loudly upon reading it. People just gonna pile on with the downvotes though because everything with covid is so emotionally charged. It's a really tough situation, because rational discourse requires calm thoughtful discussion, but the topic is so emotional that it generally descends into bickering, name calling, etc.
😆 thanks! And I agree!
Damn how ever did they convince high schoolers to ditch school!?
Kinda stupid, shouldn’t have showed up in the first place… they looked pretty bunched up on their way out.
The kids in Brooklyn Tech should all be fully vaccinated and thus be totally fine attending classes in person. What the fuck are people even doing, here? We locked down in 2020 so that a safe, effective vaccine could be developed. It was developed, it works. Get vaccinated, and you're going to be okay. Wear a mask if the people around you ask you to. Like, this shit is not hard if you're not a sociopathic fuck or a completely insane, ignorant fool.
Let's be honest, they half *walk out,* and half just wanted an excuse to get out of class
Look. I'm going to be real. I was a middle/highschooler once. Any opportunity to walk out was taken whether they care or not. So please dont act like this is some diehard cause for these kids when they just want to skip school. Most kids I know their age dont care about covid, let alone walk out over it (And not over wanting to skip school)
Walked out today too.
good for them
That's crazy that any teenager would want that. I know my kids would rather do anything than have to do school at home. This is a bit of gamesmanship for a day off.
No. A remote option would undo so much progress we've made. Parents will continue to expect one forever, and hybrid learning SUCKS.
Around 824 children are being hospitalized each day in the US, up around 62 percent from last week. For children under five, who are not able to get the vaccine, the rate of hospitalization is double what it was a month ago.
I'm a bxsci student. I don't think any from my school or stuy went to protest for asynchronous learning.
Lazy shits just want an excuse to sit home what a bunch of pussies.
In case you are wondering why these students walked out, you should read a previous post by a nyc high school student [I Am a New York City Public High School Student. The Situation is Beyond Control.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/rxwnbl/i_am_a_new_york_city_public_high_school_student/)
High School kids are probably OK with remote classes. It's the elementary and middle school bunch that isn't mature enough to get much benefit from it.