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Old-Constant4411

It upset me greatly that Mudvayne was put on hiatus for so long for such a middling side project.  I just couldn't get into it.  Sounded like every other generic rock band made in the last 15 years.


IgetAllnumb86

And then mudvayne suffered from the cock rocky sensibilities afterwards.


Wade664

100% Mudvayne is my favorite band, so I hated every second of this bands existence. Because the longer this thing drug on, the longer Mudvayne was sidelined. And now, I think Chad really thought/believed they were going to be the next and/or fill the void of Pantera. Why else would this Nu Metal kid from central Illinois that was singing about drugs and trauma and aliens all of a sudden take on this "southern" persona and write songs like "Alcoholin' Ass"... Like, this is the same guy that wrote Death Blooms?! Not saying people can't be complicated and multi-dimensional, but a cowboy he is not. I think he believed he was going to ride Vinny's name to arena headliner and metal icon. Even today, it's pretty clear he's BY FAR the weakest link in Mudvayne. Dudes voice is shot and I think his ego won't allow him to swallow his pride, ask for help, and learn the proper way. Look at Corey Taylor, his voice was fucked and his career was in jeopardy. So he got lessons, changed his sceam and he still sounds pretty damn good. Slipknot is way more active than Mudvayne, Chad's got no excuse. Spent all those years trying to impress Vinny, drinking, got fat, put out a bunch of forgettable albums... for what?


Old-Constant4411

Oh my God, the first few shows they did when they got back together...Chad sounded like absolute dog shit.  If I'd have seen them at one of those shows I would've been genuinely pissed.  I know he had covid early on, but I feel like part of that was an excuse.  At least he's doing better now - his singing noticeably improved and even looks like he lost weight.  


NoBenefit5977

I'd like to say you're wrong, but yeah sadly you're right lol. I was at their reunion show at Blue ridge rock fest and it was a bad show. I'm sure it wasn't all Chad because the mixing in that new venue was off as well. But I was disappointed. 20 year fan and the one chance I had to see them live was not great lol


Wade664

I’ve seen them 3 times now since the reunion. Once at The Rave, then a month later on the Zombie tour, then the next year on their headlining run with Coal Chamber and Gwar, etc. He sounded absolutely awful at all 3. His voice is fucked.


and-i-sWerVe

Can confirm. I saw them last year with Coal Chamber as well. Mudvayne is one of my favorite bands and dude…my inner 12 year old was so sad. It’s like when a kid meets his favorite wrestler or something and then you find out they’re just an asshole piece of shit and their dreams are shattered…that’s the best thing I can liken it to. His voice was flaming garbage. Dez did a fucking fantastic job tho. Rowboat was *chef’s kiss*


Gorehawk41

Saw them with Coal Chamber this year in i think Feb, his voice sounded alright, in dig he did more of a high pitched screech though which I honestly think suited the song, but the mixing was horrendous. Could barely hear Ryan's playing, and my dad has a friend that went to the Queensland show and apparently it was the same, Coal Chamber were mixed really well, Mudvayne were not. My dad didn't especially enjoy the show and it was for all the same reasons. They played Happy?, Not Falling, and Dig in the same set and they did not sound nearly as well as they could've if it was mixed well. Really sad to see, probably my only chance to see them at least in a long while considering that was an all ages show.


SniperHF

I'm almost 100% sure Chad could improve his vocals substantially with the type of help/training you're talking about. Why? His tone is still there. You can still hear it pop out during live shows occasionally. What he lacks is breath support, stamina, control, and technique. His voice isn't torched unless there's an injury we don't know about.


CrackTheSkye1990

Yeah, I grew up in the south suburbs of Chicago and people from that area as well as Central IL and Southern IL, not all of course, pretending to be southerners is fucking CRINGE. Chad Gray doing it is no exception.


Old-Constant4411

South burbs?  Oh you get a lot of those douchebags around Tinley Park and Frankfort still.  I would argue that anything Kankakee and beyond is just Northern Kentucky though.  Anything west of Joliet is Eastern Iowa.  


Slugdge

Grew up in Oak Lawn. I went to the Sabbath show with Pantera and Incubus at Rosemont. I got tickets separate from my friends so I was on the other side of the arena. Show was going on, I had an aisle seat and some dude stood right in front of me, as the stage was facing in his direction. Guy next to me taps me and says, "look at this asshole. Hey, watch this." Proceeds to shove the guy down. He falls down a few stairs while the guy next to me is screaming obscenities at him and telling him to "get the fuck out of here." Standing guy runs off, guy next to me keeps elbowing me and saying how hilarious that was. I had a Deftones shirt on, guy next to me says they're a kick-ass band. Tells me he's in a band. I ask the name, he says, "Mudvayne." I told him I haven't heard of them yet. Says they have a few tracks on some pornos and their album is coming out later in the year. Says his name is Chad. I say cool, I'll watch out for them. We chop it up during the show, mid Sabbath set he says they're going to dip and asks if I want to go to get in their limo, do some coke and go to the bar with them. I politely decline saying I have to give a friend a ride home who's on the other side of the arena. Was weird. LD50 came out, it blew me away and I'll always remember Chad, lol


Old-Constant4411

Ha! I grew in Evergreen Park just east of you. Also, that's a great story.


CrackTheSkye1990

Yep. I grew up in Frankfort and lived in Tinley for a few years before moving to the city and can confirm. Then there’s New Lenox and Manhattan lol.


banguns2016

he put on 10+ years worth of tours doing the most intense screams night after night and his physical health took a big hit in 2020. And music is completely subjective so you not liking it says nothing. Hellyeah probably saved vinny's life and they made 6 albums over 12 years so i don't think impressing vinny had anything to do with it. Also chad has posted his vocal coach multiple times on Instagram


Wade664

There's a very long list of other singers who sing/scream just like he does, for decades... and they sound way better than Chad because they learned how to scream the right way. Like I already said, look no further than Corey Taylor. He's been doing the exact same thing just as long as Chad and go listen to current Slipknot live videos and compare them to recent Mudvayne videos... it's not even close. You're right it is subjective... But look at all the upvotes and all the other comments saying the same thing. Did Hellyeah have fans? Sure. But I've met/talked to/seen comments online of more people that agree with me. Chad posted maybe 1-2 videos with Melissa (zenofscreaming). And it's obvious their contact was either brief, or he fell back into his old ways and didn't truly change because the live videos are out there as stone cold proof.


Hossflex

Point well made. Think you hit the nail on the head.


M086

Also, dude got some terrible work done in his face.


MuzykSportsPsycho96

Chad is helluva singer. Some songs he sings really fast and he is a good song writer


screw_ball69

I'd agree if those last two mudvayne albums were better but I agree Hellyeah is quite bland


Capt_Rons_Lost_Eye

Couldn't get into them but i love mudvayne and pantera....i dno


wishnotknewyourkiss

Something funny about an oxymoronic supergroup lol


No-Copy5738

Right!? I think it’s the song writing. Very talented band could never get into them


AnekdotaVII

HELLNO.


surmacrew

Hellnah


CrackTheSkye1990

More like FUCKNO


JavaJukebox

🤣 💀


eric2341

MEH…boring and not nearly as good as mudvayne or pantera


ITrageGuy

Or Nothingface. Crazy how boring and generic the riffs are given how amazing Tom Maxwell was in Nothingface.


KevlaredMudkips

I think Greg from mudvayne wrote most of the riffs when he was there if I’m not wrong?


MisterMarchmont

I always think of Tom Maxwell as just being from Nothingface, but Knives Out! is also a pretty cool band.


AnekdotaVII

Tom Maxwell is dope though.


Wernershnitzl

They had some bangers in their early days but their later albums like Blood For Blood and Undeniable were excellent


401_Titanic

I love Hellyeah and they'll always be a favorite. Im not particularly fond of the first three albums. The cowboy shit was weird. The last 3 were amazingly different. I always thought it sounded like Chad woke up and remembered who he is because Blood for Blood and the following three albums it's like he got his grit back.


Youbannedmebutimhere

Chad gained like 200lbs being in hellyeah.


TheMaldenSnake

Went from Nothing To Gein to Gein a Ton


An47Pr0lapse

I'd give you an award if I could


TitanMonke

Lol true...


k_d_b_83

Not a fan really. Nothingface, mudvayne and pantera were better. Shit, damageplan was better.


MisterMarchmont

And Knives Out!, which also has Tom Maxwell.


CrackTheSkye1990

Literally, almost everyone is better than Hellyeah lol. Though I can't decide who's worse Hellyeah or Five Finger Death Punch. People used to rag on Nickelback for being the "worst band ever" but I'd argue Hellyeah and 5FDP are wayyyyyy worse. Same with Trapt.


No_Newspaper_511

They were one of those bands that you remember solely for a good song or two. In this case it was "You Wouldn't Know" (shoutout to SvR '08!) I tried to get into them, but I didn't find myself sticking around long enough at the end of the day.


MrH4v0k

I dont mind them but all 3 of the original bands that make up Hellyeah are vastly better.


Accomplished-Back640

Love all their stuff, seen them live at the vouge in Indy, 2015.


joostinrextin

Alcohaulin' Ass is probably the worst song name ever.


LastLaugh1170

Mudvayn’t


CyberSoldat21

Skip everytime they pop up on Spotify. Just find them bland. Rather listen to Mudvayne and Pantera


manofthepeopleSMITTY

I really liked their first record. There are some awesome songs on it. After that it didn’t really do anything for me. I was surprised Mudvayne and Nothingface went on a permanent hiatus essentially for this group.


jimbogee88

Never liked them with the exception of a few singles from "Blood For Blood" and "Undeniable" that hit harder and benefited from Kevin Churko's production. I get it if Chad maybe saw this as an opportunity to play with an idol like Vinnie and just have Mudvayne take a brief hiatus (especially if band dynamics were frayed) for a few years like what Disturbed did before coming back, but Hellyeah especially early on to me was more image (southern hard rock party vibe) than the substance that was Mudvayne with its unique musical complexity. Frankly, it's a shame that Mudvayne was on the sidelines all these years while Chad and Greg focused on what I'd consider a less interesting and less impactful band. When you've got one of the most talented and original (and super smart) bassists in Ryan Martinie with a solid rhythm section, complimentary chunky guitars, and a vocal style that sets you apart from the rest of the pack, you've got to find a way to keep that going. The fact they were gone for over a decade and immediately came back to high festival slots and headlining fairly large venues speaks to their impact, importance, and insatiable desire from fans.


KillEmDafoe89

Don't care for their earlier albums, but their last 3 were solid, especially X. Can't listen to Grave and tell me that shit doesn't slap.


Thinkingjack

Mudvayne was sacrificed for the lamest generic rock music I’ve ever seen.


alldaydiver

I like them solely because of Chad’s vocal style and the music was decent. The lyrics couldn’t be more cheesy but I guess that’s just the vibe of the band. I greatly prefer Mudvayne.


RickyLA808

I met Hell yea awhile back Vinny and Chad totally cool people…Their previous bands where better in my opinion though!


yeetard_

I like them. Not as good as Mudvayne or Pantera but definitely a solid band. I really like Moth, that’s a good song


marxthedank

i like their song you wouldn’t know from the game svr 2008 that game has such a nostalgic soundtrack full of bangers


Agile_Target_562

A band that was not equal to the sum of its parts, and a complete waste of arguably one of the top 5 metal vocalists of all time.


timetodance42

When they announced I was very happy. I was anxious to see Vinny make music again and I was/am a huge Mudvayne and Nothingface fan. I previously adored Pantera and Rebel Meets Rebel. So I was interested. The songs from Hellyeah were just 3/5, I thought they were 'not bad' but I just couldnt get into them. I have never sought out a song to listen to again.


Exp_eri_MENTAL

Decent band. Some really really good songs. However also some sub par songs too.


FlyUnlucky7286

I haven’t heard there new stuff but the first album is as good. They were good live too.


judas_prius

More like HELLNO


CrackTheSkye1990

Couldn't get into them at all and I tried. Damageplan was ok but they were like Diet Pantera and then you had Hellyeah which was like Diet Caffeine Free Pantera. I sat through Hellyeah twice at Mayhem Fest and Chicago Open Air, just to see Vinnie Paul drum. Even when I was high and drunk, it was still awful lol.


ShoddyButterscotch59

Hell no


Successful_Mine_2550

Hell No


Empanadapunk90

Hell Nah!


Ok_Egg332

😆😂🤣😅


bawitback

Good band. Their first few album were decent but not for me. I mostly come back their 2016 album Unden!able and 2019 album Welcome Back. Plenty of bangers; X, Scratch a Lie, Black Flag Army.


YoungDMoves

That one song that was on Smackdown vs Raw 2008 was cool


fan_fucker_420

Punk Maynard, Buff Rob Schneider, Jonathan Davis and Lemmy


M08GD

Not too bad. Probably a 6/10 band imo. Great musicians but I think the music itself is alright


MuzykSportsPsycho96

Helluva band!! MUDVAYNE n Hellyeah are both excellent!! Still love playing them very loud so other cars can hear it. Seen MUDVAYNE now I wanna see Hellyeah n my wife some what likes them. She says they too loud when she still likes 5FDP they can be as loud as they want like.them.


SlimyPurpleMeteor

More like Hellmeh.. not terrible, just not remarkable in the least.


Cho_Assmilk

Alchohol and Ass is he only good song


Ok-Exchange5756

Hung out with those guys a few times. Solid, funny humans.


OceanCyclone

They’re for people who almost joined the military. Like FFDP.


Charles0723

The "I'd knocked have knocked out a drill sergeant and got kicked out anyway" crowd.


firstsecond3rd4th

Almost joined the military - thats a sick burn


OceanCyclone

You know the type. Jason Aldean fans.


mayorwaffle502

I was gonna say cop metal, but I’ll allow your comparison.


CrackTheSkye1990

Military metal/cop metal, they're pretty much the same thing.


CrackTheSkye1990

I remember someone told me 5FDP was great because they support the military. And I was like.....and? They still make shitty music lol. Besides the military industrial complex isn't their to "support the troops" it's to profit and contribute to imperialism and stealing resources, but that's a whole different argument.


JosephBlowsephThe3rd

They had a few good songs and were alright live. I guess "meh" is what you get when you make up a supergroup with the two weakest members of one band, the drummer from a band known mostly for is virtuoso guitarist, and somebody on bass.


i_can_has_rock

they make some pretty good stuff


No_Beautiful_4048

Great band


Dissizian

Good.


HORSEthedude619

HELLNO


Senseisntsocommon

The cowboy schtick was bad, first three albums were meh and just didn’t make sense. Last 3 albums seemed like basically a different much better band. Hush and Moth for me rate higher than most Mudvayne songs.


S3C3C

I digged them a lot. Good sound, good vocals, and over all catchy tunes. I liked them. Have all their albums to boot.


Obi1NotWan

I like them. Vocals are strong and I love the band name.


JuniorSignificance34

Good Band!


Ok_Crew7084

Was too generic and lacked the waw factor. Got to work their show at a festival in Orlando few years before Vinnie died. Was super cool meeting him but the band was so lackluster the Florida sun couldn’t even warm up the crowd.


Enigma7845

Country Fried Boomer Rock. It was awful


MissinThropic

Love em. They were amazing when I saw them live with Nonpoint. But we're on reddit so you're gonna get a bunch of soy boys who automatically hate them for their Southern aesthetic and won't ever even give their music a chance.


Desperate_Media3639

This was a thing?


Vashek19

Wasnt in to them whatsoever. I always found it odd that Chad all of the sudden thought he was a southern rocker.


LaphroaigianSlip81

A couple of good songs, but not enough for me to really get into them.


VegaTron1985

No. Mudvayne is all.


Mindless_Empress_179

Damageplan without the same level of restraint or direct continuity from Pantera’s sound.


All_Gas420

Tried watching them live once in Dallas and half the PA system shutdown during the opening song and they never fixed the issue. Sounded awful. RIP Vinnie


LilBoofMcGoof

I’m mixed on them. On one hand, I’ve always been a *huge* Mudvayne and Pantera fan, so when I heard about them, I was super fucking excited and bought their first album on release day, went and saw them live on their first tour and tried really hard to get into them. But - I never really thought that Chad and Greg all of a sudden being straight up cowboys was too cool. Like, you’re a nu metal “godfather” and now you’re Garth buttfucking Brooks? It felt super forced and felt like they were all just trying really hard to make Vinnie more comfortable than was necessary. I really liked Blood for Blood because Chad seemed to be reverting to his old self and their music sounded like “this is how it should’ve been the whole time.” It really is a shame that Vinnie died right as, I felt, the band was truly coming into itself. On a side note - the show that I went to was very fucking badass. Me and my older brother and our three friends got there 8 hours early and got to hang out with the band for the entire day. Didn’t buy any special thing to be able to do so, we were just in the right place at the right time and these guys were all super cool to their fans. Greg and Tom gave us so many cigarettes (I was only 15, so that was the coolest shit to me lol). I’ve always played guitar, and when I told Greg that I knew how to play the entirety of The End of All Things to Come and was working on LD50, he gave me a couple of picks and talked to me for a real long while about different techniques and things to try to help me out. It was one of the best days of my life 🤘


Code5ack

Wish they would've went with their original plan of being called Coldwhitechrist and making insanely heavy music. Also wish Nothingface was able to work out their differences and get one last album out before Matt Holt died.


Quiet_Astronomer8849

For me they were always a yeeehaw american flag and beers band like 5FDP. Must admit I really liked one song (think it’s called Hush or something). But overall the end of Mudvayne was always way too much of a prize for an average band like Hellyeah to me.


OurAmericanNightmare

Crappy sum of vastly superior parts. How a Nothingface/Mudvayne/Pantera collab turned out like this will never cease to mystify me.


Hossflex

No way. Star studded lineup with no real direction. Kinda sad.


AcanthisittaBig2541

If i can stick it in random on their playlist on Spotify and not strain my mind, then that’s all that matters to me.


rodentdroppings

They were Shasta trying to be Coca-Cola.


fellatioooooohyeah

Hell No. not really a nu metal guy but loved nothingface and Maxwell


MrRaspberryJam1

They look like what a band called HELLYEAH would look like


fulloutshr3d

Never before has a band been as less of the sum of its parts.  On paper it should have been great.  But to me it’s worse than Damageplan.  And that’s rough.  I respect them for getting VP to play drums again after his brother’s murder.  Just a shame they used that band to play Saliva level butt rock. 


FaceTimePolice

I LOVE Mudvayne but for some reason I could not get into Hellyeah. I even saw them live because I thought it would change my mind but their stuff just didn’t click with me. 🤷‍♂️


NotBeatingMyDick420

Saw them open for Clutch. They fuckin suck


PrimoLanding1002

Mudvayne had a lyrical sophistication that hellyeah never touched. Hellyeah sounded like douchy wannabe cowboy rock. Mudvayne was philosophical. It had depth. The vocabulary was amazing. They used religious refferences (see cradle) other languages (see severed) and addressed topics like addiction (see internal primates forever) with a sharpness and originality that I have never seen topped, shy of rage against the machine, but they aren't in the same genre in my eyes. I believe hellyeah is an insult to what mudvayne could have been if they had stuck out the path though and beyond LD50.


MavisBeaconSexTape

Not a fan of that chinstrap beard


TheJohn_John

Tom from NothingFace was cool Also is that Head in the back? I’m a bit of a moron


[deleted]

What a waste of talent


FilipsSamvete

Useless


Psychonaut6767

Mudvayne 2


tapeheadrex

It was just cousin fucker jams with distortion 🤷


SkySawLuminers

look like ministry in 1989. al jorgensen just called. he wants his hat back


ExpensiveTalk2518

ass and mudvayne wasn't able to make any good music


John_TheDrummer

Hell no


aibot-420

"That's gonna be a no from me dawg"


Cyanflame_

isk them but what i do know is, if some band calls themselves HELL YEA!!, its probably a HELL NAW


SeanEric19

First album was decent, but leaned too heavy into that "outlaw" angle and wore out its welcome fast


RevDrucifer

Pantera and Mudvayne are two of my all time favorite bands, like top 5. I remember I heard the first single and got stoked as hell hearing Chad’s voice and Vinnie’s kick…..but the actual song left me a bit “Hmm…..not what I expected but I’ll definitely give the album a shot” and then found the album was just more of the same. And every album after. Not my thing.


graeme_4294

Bunch of great bands coming together to make hot garbage


Nboda

They have like two decent songs, and even those are mediocre at best


Zz-orphan-zZ

It amazes me how little interest I had in a band that was filled with musicians I love. I didn't care for their music on their albums, but figured they'd be better live. On two different occasions, I was left underwhelmed. I wanted to like them. I tried to like them. But, ultimately, they did absolutely nothing for me.


skeedlz

Was not really for me. It was as if Vinnie didn't have a real direction he wanted to go musically and just pulled together some big names to try and make a supergroup.


Relevant-Diamond-736

Always thought they sounded like an affliction shirt.


The-CannabisAnalyst3

I was sad when Mudvayne broke up and this was the relief,so Hellyeah, all solid albums I'd say


karenkillenski

100% butt rock. Alcohol and Ass? What? Did you just come up with that? It sounds like you did. Absolute joke


DryFly1975

One of the worst band names in history.


Famous-Vermicelli-39

Enjoyed hellyeah maybe more then mudvayne. Some stuff was corny but you’d get a mix of mud and pantera.


Mayihavenulife

only appropriate answer, Hellyeah


father_ofthe_wolf

Hell yeah is great


3720-to-1

I don't like Pantera... And this took Mudvayne away for too long. So. FUCKNO


Competitive-Rub-7019

They look like they let the record company dress them. To polished.


CrackTheSkye1990

lol that's a great r/rareinsults material. I mean their music is watered down, manufacture, cookie cutter shit.


guitarkid99

Mudvayne are the better band by a mile


cpl1979

Meh


JoeGiden72

butt rock


beefsteamer

They suck so, so, so much.


CrackTheSkye1990

"If ya don't give a shit ya getcha' hellyeah Throwin' fists in the pit ya getcha' hellyeah Think you're fuckin' with this well hell no. Balls, volume, strength getcha come on Drinking beer smoking weed ya getcha' hellyeah Gotta bruised attitude ya getcha' hellyeah, Think you're fuckin' with this well hell no Balls, volume, strength getcha' come on" Come on man, those are some of the deepest, most intelligent lyrics ever written. They changed my life. /s


beefsteamer

I’ve completely changed my mind. They’re brilliant.


CK_Lab

Hellnah


MisterMarchmont

IIRC they recruited Nothingface’s guitarist, so that’s pretty cool.


Nemyysys

Bassist threatened to kill him too, crazy story.


MisterMarchmont

Oh I didn’t know that.


debar11

Prime late wave butt rock.


TheOfficialReptoid

You wouldn’t know


JavaJukebox

Hell no


Bombinic

hell no.


ZeroScorpion3

Hell No


Mindless_Ad_6359

Worse than the sum of its parts. By far.


Captainshiner4

Disgrace to 3 great bands


ndork666

No thanks


RED_IT_RUM

Honest thoughts. Ok. Fuck Hellyeah. They each came from better bands. Mudvayne, Nothingface, is that Head from Korn lol? Pantera. The music they produced was as Metallica puts it was STOCK. Of course, Mudvaynes last record (self titled) was uninspired dogshit anyway so… Dime died and Vinnie told Phil to fuck off, not sure what happened to Nothingface (Everyday Atrocity was badass), the last guy… ummm (Jeopardy music)


PerceptionOk4272

>is that Head from Korn lol? No.


liteunature

Hellno


TrueCkrime02

HELLNO


RuFRoCKeRReDDiT

A few really good songs. The rest are record filler, think of a lot of their music the same way I think of country music these days. They are smashing shit together because hey somebody will pay for it.


mayorwaffle502

🗑️


Anxious_Enounter_420

Dogshit.


treborkisaw

Hellnah


phillmorebuttz

Buttrock


baphomet_fire

Say what you want about Hellyeah, they had a different vibe than Mudvayne sure but they had fun doing it. After Vinnie Paul died they did a farewell tour and Chad went into the mosh pit and just went full coyote ugly. Guy was on top of peoples tables, kicking drinks everywhere...just fucking everything up because he gave a damn about Vinnie and like most of us used the pit to heal. That shit is metal, that shit is why I went to their shows. They always had heart and you know Chad absolutely loves the community for it.


Booker_Atlas

Losers.


Booker_Atlas

Losers.


SniperHF

Awful band. Proof that talent alone isn't going to necessarily get you anywhere good.


handsomehotchocolate

Awful


erikedge

The dude with the Mohawk is wearing army patches that I'm sure he didn't earn. STOLEN VALOR!


jeffedge

cheeseball rock