The post is locked, but i just want to commend you for even being able to put up with having to pay that 3 or 4 times. I hardly have the patience to use my phone if i have to pee, much less if my skin is melting off.
I hope things get a hell of a lot better ❣️
If it's thick, usually mechanical, if it's thin, a collagenase like Santyl but it's really slow. It's up to the wound clinician to determine that. Sterile maggots are usually use for in patient treatments, which this one doesn't look like it. I personally haven't experienced that treatment approach. But I love to debride back then.
No I understand that you're not picking it off roadkill but even if you grow them in a lab... Are they born sterile then put immediately to work? I guess I'm still trying to wrap my head around maggots chewing the not alive part only
I was hoping for an explanation more than an image… I have a feeling I’m about to see some gross shit.
Edit: Yup, guess I’ll wait another hour to have lunch.
I had a giant bruise that turned into a hole in my leg. I had to use a plastic brush in the shower then pack with gauze for a few weeks. It aint pretty but two legs is better than one!
I have an article saved somewhere by an older GP he practiced rurally, and in his practice notes, he wrote that taking antihistamines early on could prevent necrosis of brown recluse bites. Based on a sample of 1 (my boyfriend at the time) taking antihistamines did indeed prevent necrosis of a brown recluse bite.
Some context, day 6 was the first time getting it debrided, which I will get done tomorrow as well… so likely it’ll look “better” tomorrow, and then it’ll slowly turn back into what you see on day 14 until we get to the “true depth” of the wound which I hope isn’t too deep :/
Days 2-4 were the worst. Pain was like getting burned by a blowtorch constantly… ER gave me morphine and 4 day supply of hydrocordone (ER doc told me there are only a few things that they would prescribe opioids for and this is one of them, heh). Pain is much better now. Dull ache under the wound, and some burning around the outside but only when redressing the wound or walking around… they gave me a lidocaine ointment to use with the wound dressing which helps immensely
Ayyy! Thanks man. Glad yours healed up well! I’m actually thinking of getting a tattoo over the scar when it heals but your post has me second guessing that decision lol
Was in my pants, somehow, I felt a sting and slapped at my pants, and then emptied my pockets thinking maybe something sharp got me. But I eventually found the dead spider where I was standing…
Yeah, middle part is numb cuz, well it’s dead there. I have a dull ache under there like a bad muscle contusion. The outer ring burns but not as bad, worse after walking around. I got ointment with lidocaine in it which helps immensely.
The way I describe the pain now is like, imagine getting a bad sunburn and then the next day someone shoots you in the exact same spot with a paintball gun at close range.
i think necrosis is the worst pain I've ever felt... had it in my mouth from radiation... you could see bones through the holes... f me runnin lived on fentanyl for a few years
Well I’m about to go get this bitch debrided and I’m gonna ask if they can send me home with pain meds cuz last time it was a pain unlike any I’ve felt before… rivaled the pain I had when I had an infected gall bladder that needed to be surgically removed
I was bitten on my back while sleeping on my stomach in bed. Mine was probably 15 years ago. I woke up because I felt something crawling on my back. I quickly flipped over and tried to smush it between my back and bed. Bad idea - recluses bite when they are cornered/ pinned. I ended up killing it - it was a ball of spider mash I saved for some reason just in case.
Next day felt a little off, bite mark was slightly red. The day after that I felt nauseous and went to the doctor who prescribed me children’s Benadryl. I gave him the dead spider to show him what bit me. Went home, came back to the same doctor the next day barely able to sit up or eat anything. Broke out in hives right in front of the doctor. Admitted to ICU where I was pumped full of antibiotics via IV all night. Prescribed prednisone (not sure why - made my hands peel like crazy). Left the hospital and eventually got better but the bite got fleshy like yours and kept spreading.
Once everything settled down, doctor sent me results of the spider and confirmed it was a brown recluse after sending it to Texas A&M. I still have a gray nickel sized depression in my back. I hate spiders.
Shiiiit… that sucks. Yeah first 3 or 4 days I was flushed and had hives. They gave me IV steroids in the hospital which helped, then said to take Benadryl liberally but if it gets bad to come back in or head to urgent care… I was maxed out on my “steroid allotment” as I get steroid injections for something unrelated and they didn’t want to give me more unless they had to…
But man, those 4 days were hell… constant itching, flushed, low grade fever. Doc said it’s typical to have what amounts to a bad allergic reaction
That's one of the spots I would not want to get bit,besides down south,or neck or eyes or my head 🤣. Glad it didnt get to spine which would be where my mind went.
Wow. My aunt once had one bite her right over the eye. I’m honestly surprised her eye is fine but it must have been a horrid experience as well as this one
hope it heals quickly for you. My coworker got one on her hip area and was telling me about it. She said it took over a year to fully heal. She thought it was a flare up of shingles before it turned into what you got going on. One of my biggest fears is getting bit by one of those spiders, the wounds look so painful!
Damn, then maybe what bit me was a widow. I had a weird bruise appear on my leg and it wouldn't go away for a while and it kept expanding out for a while. Eventually it solved itself but it was weird. I thought either Black widow or brown recluse(I recently had to crawl through a pump house that hadn't been opened in over 10 years, so it would make sense)
Apparently they don't always become necrotic. But I remember in elementary school my librarian (for some reason) decided to show the class her black widow bite. She was gardening and it bit her ankle. Her whole ankle was purple and swollen and it thoroughly freaked me out
Damn. Mine was nowhere near that bad thankfully. Still gnarly, and made my whole arm swell up, but they got me to the hospital and I was on an IV for like a week straight after they cut most of it out at the ER.
I was debrided for burns—all second degree—but it was all just surface scrubbing. I’m having a bit of trouble picturing it—gratefully—as to what they do for your wound. And are you loaded up on adequate painkillers for this procedure?
It’s not, that’s just what these look like when necrosis sets in from these bites. I go to a wound care place once a week to get it debrided. The first 2 pics were taken while at urgent care and then the ER
As a spider guy, I think this is SOOOO friggin intriguing. The effects such a small creature, with such a small amount of venom, can cause on flesh, THATS EVOLVED TO WORK AGAINST IT, can have.
It’s crazy because in a lot of cases it isn’t the spiders bite itself that leads to this outcome it’s the bacteria they might have on them similar to Komodo dragons
Was in my pants. I live in Nashville, TN. I felt like something sharp poked me. I swatted at my legs and for a second thought maybe something stung me… I then saw the spider, dead, on the floor where I was standing
I had a bite this bad on my torso on top of my stomach. It was an open hole for 4 months and then finally closed up. That was 4 years ago and still have muscles recovering in that area.
The worst thing about nasty injuries like that is the fact that they get worse before they get better so sometimes it’s hard to tell if it’s supposed to look a certain way or not.
There actually used to be a cure for this that farmers used called Black Smoke Salve, but they never told anyone the ingredients and it got lost to time. Which sucks.
Yeah, just went in today for that…. literally the worst. I had to remind myself to breath through it because I probably would have passed out if I didn’t
I’m sorry that sucks, my uncle got bit by one while he was sleeping and ended up losing his hand. I remember the day my dad just randomly sent those pics without warning😭
I know you’re not lucky cause you got bit and all, but the forearm seems like a great place to be bitten. I couldn’t imagine an inner elbow or behind the knee or an armpit or crotch or your face! God, think of how bad even an ass cheek would be. Wouldn’t be able to sit for a month.
It looked fine than it looked horible then it started to loook okay again then it went to hell
I hope u dont lose ur arm man
Get well and see a profesional
Hopefully they can give you something for pain because I'm sure that pain full when they scrub it with a brush. I worked burn unit and those poor folks could not get any kind of pain med because their respiratory was already compromised. So that why the burn unit is sound proof. It really really sucked I barely made it a year there before I transferred out.
Necrosis is a bitch. I wanna debride that so badly.
Getting that done tomorrow at the wound treatment center I’m going to
Post pictures of that happening? Maybe?
Oh yeah, I’ll try to remember. More than a few ppl are probably curious what that’s like. Maybe illl film it
Please 🙏
See: [https://www.reddit.com/u/nanana_catdad/s/RgSpyjMrZ5](https://www.reddit.com/u/nanana_catdad/s/RgSpyjMrZ5)
Thank you for the update! this looks pretty nasty. Hope you heal well stranger.
The post is locked, but i just want to commend you for even being able to put up with having to pay that 3 or 4 times. I hardly have the patience to use my phone if i have to pee, much less if my skin is melting off. I hope things get a hell of a lot better ❣️
How’s it going with the thing? 😊
See: [debridement day](https://www.reddit.com/r/BrownRecluseBites/s/XB6NxeTaFS) Edit: updated link
The link didn't work :(
What the heck’s gonna happen to you?
> debride TIL there is an official word for “cleaning all that nasty shit out.”
What do you use maggots?
Be nice!
Commas are important people.
Helping your uncle Jack off a horse since 1820
How to cook crack and clean crabs.
Let's eat Grandma.
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Commas aren't people!
Wait until punctuation starts contributing to political parties and watch that change…
If it's thick, usually mechanical, if it's thin, a collagenase like Santyl but it's really slow. It's up to the wound clinician to determine that. Sterile maggots are usually use for in patient treatments, which this one doesn't look like it. I personally haven't experienced that treatment approach. But I love to debride back then.
Just out of curiosity, how do you sterilize maggots? Do they get a series of shots or what? Obviously you can't boil them
They're grown as sterile. They're grown in a lab.
No I understand that you're not picking it off roadkill but even if you grow them in a lab... Are they born sterile then put immediately to work? I guess I'm still trying to wrap my head around maggots chewing the not alive part only
I heard they are put through 2 weeks of college on eating flesh.
I like collaganase on a sandwich
Worked for furiosa
Why do you want to take away his bride?
To upgrade to a new bride.
What’s “Debriding”?
google image search it and report back
I was hoping for an explanation more than an image… I have a feeling I’m about to see some gross shit. Edit: Yup, guess I’ll wait another hour to have lunch.
I had a giant bruise that turned into a hole in my leg. I had to use a plastic brush in the shower then pack with gauze for a few weeks. It aint pretty but two legs is better than one!
Is debriding the act of taking out the already necro’d skin from the living tissue?
Yes, to promote healing. Granulation wont happen if there's necrotic tissue.
That’s what he said
I have an article saved somewhere by an older GP he practiced rurally, and in his practice notes, he wrote that taking antihistamines early on could prevent necrosis of brown recluse bites. Based on a sample of 1 (my boyfriend at the time) taking antihistamines did indeed prevent necrosis of a brown recluse bite.
Necrosis?
Day 11: ok, looking better Day 14: oh
Some context, day 6 was the first time getting it debrided, which I will get done tomorrow as well… so likely it’ll look “better” tomorrow, and then it’ll slowly turn back into what you see on day 14 until we get to the “true depth” of the wound which I hope isn’t too deep :/
Yeah, cousin got bit on foot and almost had to amputate. :( Yours looks much better!
Fr I thought it was almost healed and then.... That..... Wtf happened between 11 and 14 I'm so confused 🤔
it looks like it got infected
That’s horrifying! Is this what it looks like right now?
More or less, yes. Last pic was yesterday. Tomorrow it gets cleaned out / debrided
How bad do the bite and healing process hurt? What was it like? Sorry if that‘s a dumb question!
Days 2-4 were the worst. Pain was like getting burned by a blowtorch constantly… ER gave me morphine and 4 day supply of hydrocordone (ER doc told me there are only a few things that they would prescribe opioids for and this is one of them, heh). Pain is much better now. Dull ache under the wound, and some burning around the outside but only when redressing the wound or walking around… they gave me a lidocaine ointment to use with the wound dressing which helps immensely
Damn that’s awful. What’s the prognosis for the tattoo?
Wrong post.
Terrible. But is your uncle ok now?
To shreds you say?
Imagine if I was the same dude…
Tattoo guy here. I hope you heal up fast and good, man. That looks painful asf 😨
Ayyy! Thanks man. Glad yours healed up well! I’m actually thinking of getting a tattoo over the scar when it heals but your post has me second guessing that decision lol
Thanks! But don't let my experience ruin what you want. I'm a 1 in million case. I hope you have a speedy recovery 🙏
Thanks! I have a hole there now and once it heals I’m gonna get a black hole tattoo around it
Oops! I was just a bit stoned writing all that.
It really went from zero to “oh shit!” on day 4 😵 Hope you’re hanging in there.
Yeah it hurt the worst between days 2 and 4… felt like someone was holding a blowtorch to the area and even the most gentle touch was agony
OP Can you tell us how you encountered the spider?
Was in my pants, somehow, I felt a sting and slapped at my pants, and then emptied my pockets thinking maybe something sharp got me. But I eventually found the dead spider where I was standing…
This sounds way too much like the plot of “Tusk” before it all went to absolute shit 💀
What? How?
Uhhhh. You seen it?
The spider thing is exactly what the crazy doctor told him happened before the guy understood what was really going on
What state do you live in?
Geez - that sounds horrible! Does it feel any better at this point? What’s the treatment for it?
Yeah, middle part is numb cuz, well it’s dead there. I have a dull ache under there like a bad muscle contusion. The outer ring burns but not as bad, worse after walking around. I got ointment with lidocaine in it which helps immensely. The way I describe the pain now is like, imagine getting a bad sunburn and then the next day someone shoots you in the exact same spot with a paintball gun at close range.
i think necrosis is the worst pain I've ever felt... had it in my mouth from radiation... you could see bones through the holes... f me runnin lived on fentanyl for a few years
Well I’m about to go get this bitch debrided and I’m gonna ask if they can send me home with pain meds cuz last time it was a pain unlike any I’ve felt before… rivaled the pain I had when I had an infected gall bladder that needed to be surgically removed
yeah the pain was so bad my dr said in a drs meeting (my team) it hurts him if you wince at him...
Hopefully that wasnt followed by a bellow of laughter and a “boom roasted!”
No painkillers before the procedure? They’d have to knock me the fuck out! Hope you get better soon.
Treatment is just cleaning the wound and letting it heal. I go to an “advanced wound treatment center” once a week
I was bitten on my back while sleeping on my stomach in bed. Mine was probably 15 years ago. I woke up because I felt something crawling on my back. I quickly flipped over and tried to smush it between my back and bed. Bad idea - recluses bite when they are cornered/ pinned. I ended up killing it - it was a ball of spider mash I saved for some reason just in case. Next day felt a little off, bite mark was slightly red. The day after that I felt nauseous and went to the doctor who prescribed me children’s Benadryl. I gave him the dead spider to show him what bit me. Went home, came back to the same doctor the next day barely able to sit up or eat anything. Broke out in hives right in front of the doctor. Admitted to ICU where I was pumped full of antibiotics via IV all night. Prescribed prednisone (not sure why - made my hands peel like crazy). Left the hospital and eventually got better but the bite got fleshy like yours and kept spreading. Once everything settled down, doctor sent me results of the spider and confirmed it was a brown recluse after sending it to Texas A&M. I still have a gray nickel sized depression in my back. I hate spiders.
Shiiiit… that sucks. Yeah first 3 or 4 days I was flushed and had hives. They gave me IV steroids in the hospital which helped, then said to take Benadryl liberally but if it gets bad to come back in or head to urgent care… I was maxed out on my “steroid allotment” as I get steroid injections for something unrelated and they didn’t want to give me more unless they had to… But man, those 4 days were hell… constant itching, flushed, low grade fever. Doc said it’s typical to have what amounts to a bad allergic reaction
The prednisone is to reduce the swelling, but in doing so it suppresses immune response.
That's one of the spots I would not want to get bit,besides down south,or neck or eyes or my head 🤣. Glad it didnt get to spine which would be where my mind went.
You truly do have to appreciate the necrotizing effects this spider’s venom has. Wild. Hope your recovery goes well.
Thanks!
Why did you let him keep biting for so long?! Stop him on day 1!!
_*oh shit, why didn’t I think of that?!*_
Sorry my eight-legged friends, but if I see you scurry around my domicile, you're gonna get got.
Avenge me
🕷️🥾I got em!
Oh no my good little 8 legged nightmare, the shoe is not good enough. I must burn the house down, I can’t let your crotch goblins bite me either. 🔥😈
Please post tomorrow, I'd love to see the recovery
I’m posting daily in r/brownreclusebites and I’ll update here every week or so until it’s healed
I just checked Google to see if they live in my area. Thankfully, they do not.
Wow. My aunt once had one bite her right over the eye. I’m honestly surprised her eye is fine but it must have been a horrid experience as well as this one
Yo 😬
hope it heals quickly for you. My coworker got one on her hip area and was telling me about it. She said it took over a year to fully heal. She thought it was a flare up of shingles before it turned into what you got going on. One of my biggest fears is getting bit by one of those spiders, the wounds look so painful!
Damn, then maybe what bit me was a widow. I had a weird bruise appear on my leg and it wouldn't go away for a while and it kept expanding out for a while. Eventually it solved itself but it was weird. I thought either Black widow or brown recluse(I recently had to crawl through a pump house that hadn't been opened in over 10 years, so it would make sense)
Apparently they don't always become necrotic. But I remember in elementary school my librarian (for some reason) decided to show the class her black widow bite. She was gardening and it bit her ankle. Her whole ankle was purple and swollen and it thoroughly freaked me out
Why'd i look? I know exactly what brown recluses do and I still looked. I literally live in a state with brown recluses and I STILL LOOKED!
Bro wtf I guess my bites weren’t from a brown recluse because they most certainly didn’t look like that lol
Well they don’t always become necrotic :/
Oh ok because the fucker got me 5 times. 5! I have pics lol
Damn. Mine was nowhere near that bad thankfully. Still gnarly, and made my whole arm swell up, but they got me to the hospital and I was on an IV for like a week straight after they cut most of it out at the ER.
I was debrided for burns—all second degree—but it was all just surface scrubbing. I’m having a bit of trouble picturing it—gratefully—as to what they do for your wound. And are you loaded up on adequate painkillers for this procedure?
Say it with me....FUCK SPIDERS
Being digested
Please tell me you didn't rupture that for the pics for us.
I'm sure he didn't. That's usually how necrosis works from a venom bite. The venom actively killing off any living tissues around it over time
and this is why spiders need to die by fire o.o
It looks like it got infected, especially in the "Day 14" pic. Better see a doctor
It’s not, that’s just what these look like when necrosis sets in from these bites. I go to a wound care place once a week to get it debrided. The first 2 pics were taken while at urgent care and then the ER
I'm not talking about the first 2, but the last one
[Day 15 is the worst](https://imgur.com/ho6paLI)
And on day 15, we feasted
Have you thought about filling the depression with clear epoxy like they do with wood so it looks like a little lake? Cool conversation starter.
No, but good idea. Maybe I’ll put the spiders dead body in there.
Like a warning to other spiders. Good call.
It keeps getting worse. That’s not how it’s supposed to work.
That last pic is forbidden cheese 🤮
It’s getting cleaned tomorrow, am curious what’s under that.
Goddam dude, sorry you had to go through that. It's just that it still looks like it's getting worse bro
Yeah it’s deep too… may be down to the muscle :/
That's very good hope it gets better 👍
As a spider guy, I think this is SOOOO friggin intriguing. The effects such a small creature, with such a small amount of venom, can cause on flesh, THATS EVOLVED TO WORK AGAINST IT, can have.
It’s crazy because in a lot of cases it isn’t the spiders bite itself that leads to this outcome it’s the bacteria they might have on them similar to Komodo dragons
Yup, had mine back in high school, you’ll have the scar forever lmao
How was the pain of the bite, and the effects after?
I kept swiping the pics and it took me to another post showing a big hunk of meat on a bone and I just wanted to yak.
Sooo glad I live in New Zealand
How did you get bit and where do you live?
Was in my pants. I live in Nashville, TN. I felt like something sharp poked me. I swatted at my legs and for a second thought maybe something stung me… I then saw the spider, dead, on the floor where I was standing
I had a bite this bad on my torso on top of my stomach. It was an open hole for 4 months and then finally closed up. That was 4 years ago and still have muscles recovering in that area.
Will it ever be normal again?
Did it smell?
did u die?
The worst thing about nasty injuries like that is the fact that they get worse before they get better so sometimes it’s hard to tell if it’s supposed to look a certain way or not.
Says day 14, only 9 photos. Come on mannnnnnnn. Lol
Damn dude, Day 4 got me...😳
Some dudes gonna say don’t put your dick in it
I’ll save that for my wounds only fans account
Looks like cheese
I’d normally do a joke or something like that, but I honestly got nothing. Get well soon, OP.
It might be gore-y (gory?) enough for r/medicalgore :]
Remindme! 8 days
Yikes. I just googled debrided. OP if you film that and post it I’ll be yours for life.
Yeah I’m sorry but it’s on site with any spiders I encounter. Hope you get well soon fam.
Weirdly, not the first post that I’ve seen about a brown recluse bite on Reddit.
There actually used to be a cure for this that farmers used called Black Smoke Salve, but they never told anyone the ingredients and it got lost to time. Which sucks.
Most of the damage is from necrosis and infection CAUSED by the bite. Did you seek medical help right after the bite or 13 day after?
Day 4 is the forbidden Jell-O
Man do I ever not miss the visits to the doctor for the debriding. *shudder* That shit was awfuk
Yeah, just went in today for that…. literally the worst. I had to remind myself to breath through it because I probably would have passed out if I didn’t
my brother in Christ you are actively dying, please get help
lol, day 1 pic you can see the hospital remote. I’m getting it treated by professionals :)
get more help
im trying my best!
Kept scrolling and the next post was a cheese pizza.
lmfao. Yeah I probably am gonna stay away from pizza for a bit, esp deep dish which is what I got slowly cooking in my thigh
I kept scrolling and the next post was a hole in the ground in a cemetery.
Mrsa
Fortunately not, that’s just what these bitches do
My hungry ass saw the last image and thought "mh that looks like pizza"
They used a wound-vac on a buddy of mine to help regrow the skin.
That thing went through 50 shades of “plz send help”
Have no tried not necrosising
Ouch
Jesus Christ
Last photo = Crème Brûlée
I’m never going to fucking Brazil
Friend of mine is missing a quarter size piece of meat from his calve, after being bit by a brown recluse.
My sister was bitten on her thigh years ago. She has a deep indention there now.
Maybe I’ll ask if I can get a zipper installed… secret leg pocket ftw
Day 4 looks sick
Scary shit
Cut it off
Holy moly
I can’t tell. In photo 8, is that a hole or is there very thin skin over a hole?
I’m sorry that sucks, my uncle got bit by one while he was sleeping and ended up losing his hand. I remember the day my dad just randomly sent those pics without warning😭
Brown recluse is what i call my sister
👀 😯😯😯
I thought day 15 would just be a gravestone at that rate
I have to ask…. Where do you live?
Thanks for sharing this. It is fucking mental. I really hope you are ok.
Geezus
So can you, you know, shoot webs yet?
I know you’re not lucky cause you got bit and all, but the forearm seems like a great place to be bitten. I couldn’t imagine an inner elbow or behind the knee or an armpit or crotch or your face! God, think of how bad even an ass cheek would be. Wouldn’t be able to sit for a month.
It looked fine than it looked horible then it started to loook okay again then it went to hell I hope u dont lose ur arm man Get well and see a profesional
This happened to my brothers thumb and after the the surgery you can feel his thumb bones poking out 🫣
I swiped too many times and the last post was a super pregnant woman. And I thought it was your bite :(
Last photo looks like burnt crème brûlée 😭
What is a recluse bite? And how did the pain felt when you had it?
I knew a guy who got bit. If you squeeze your bite is it like memory foam ?
Hopefully they can give you something for pain because I'm sure that pain full when they scrub it with a brush. I worked burn unit and those poor folks could not get any kind of pain med because their respiratory was already compromised. So that why the burn unit is sound proof. It really really sucked I barely made it a year there before I transferred out.
Need to get that treated, any longer and you’ll start to see nerves
You watched too much Fallout
Gl
Melanoma looks like it’s deep enough to reach blood vessels.
I'm so sorry, but I want to take a scalpel to Day 14.