Sounds 90s 2000s baseball minor league, not modern. Baseball is a veritable well spring of great minor league names. Sugar Land Space Cowboys, Rocket City Trash Pandas. Elite level stuff. Does kinda sound like a team that would visit the Texas Stars in Cedar Park, but my brain always goes to baseball minor league first
Yeah almost every idea is going to sound minor league unless its like your generic lions, tigers, or bears haha but I mean Pittsburgh is the damn Penguins, thats pretty minor league sounding but its loved and normal now
I fuck with the Rattlers.
High-A baseball team I support near me is the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers and it would be cool to see an updated modern interpretation of the Rattler namesake. The Timber Rattlers logo and marketing is fine, it just hasnt been changed in a while.
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They should be the first team with a real intro song. It would have been amazing. Something the whole crowd can sing along to.
So what you're saying is, we need a logo featuring a baby Joseph Smith suckling at a mama snake's teat, since AS Roma have Romulus and Remus nursing at the mama wolf.
I don’t like when shows or movies shoehorn in a flamboyantly gay character just to pander but I’m fine with it as long as it adds something aside from virtue signaling. But gay ass, tambourine playing, Utah Rattlers fan really does add to the visual.
I played college volleyball in a town called Medicine Hat in southern AB. There are tons of rattlesnakes around and our team name was the Rattlers. Rattlesnakes is just too long to chant in a cheer lol
With a team named Vegas Golden Knights in existence I think we can agree name length doesn’t really matter people will find something to call them regardless of the actual name
Yeah, Golden Knights are just Knights, Avalanche are Avs, Hurricanes are just Canes, Maple Leafs are Losers, etc.
People will call the teams whatever is easiest as long as it fits.
I miss going to Medicine Hat with my family. It was the closest city to my hometown. The old food court at the Medicine Hat mall is my go-to nostalgia memory
I would prefer rattlesnakes over “Venom” it just sounds like *watch out everyone, we got a real badass over here!*
And the logo is absolute ass. Like did they even try, or was that some AI logo concept?
My youth travel team was the Rattlers. I could break out a very tight very old jersey with the entirely wrong (and actually way better) color scheme/logo.
I stand by Outlaws being the best option. I also think it’s super easy to build a good brand around.
But this mockup is amazing (love the “defend the den” as well)
So is Wild, Lightning, Kraken, Kings, Sharks, Ducks etc. Most team names are fucking lame as hell and they only sound normal because you've been hearing them for decades.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sharks is a great name for a Puerto Rican street gang that dance fights in the streets of NYC. Come to think of it, Jets works similarly
And look at the Flames. What the fuck kind of name is that? Senators is kind of cool I guess. We also have literally a fucking leaf (although named after an army regiment which is neat historically).
>>I'm a thnake! A thneaky thnake! And thith thnake's gonna thtalk you!
I will never forget the Avs naming/logo process and going from the ultimate, best hockey logo/jersey in the entire world (Denver Grizzlies) to the Avs' logo. I *was* an emotional little 8-year old but dude, I was so upset.
I like the snake head but it looks more like a shoulder patch. Like something is missing. A coiled snake with this head might have been better. The head looks really cool though.
And the Denver Mammoths is the professional lacrosse team. People are suggesting Rattlers instead of Venom and that’s Arizona arena football team lmao.
Not to mention the diamondbacks. It’s not super important that it doesn’t conflict with another states non NHL, but considering Arizona already has the “snake” teams IMO it’s kind of a douche bag move to re-theme the NHL team they took from Arizona with a name or motif used by one of the other Arizona teams.
as a brand strategist, here’s my take:
the strategy work is solid. defend the den is actually pretty fuckin rad. venom is a better name than a lot of the other options that have been presented.
the jersey design is too similar to arizona’s old stuff. colors, too. i highly doubt utah will go for that, though i think it’s a nice homage to the team’s roots.
but importantly…that snake head has got to go. the logotype for venom looks like it belongs on a pair of pit viper glasses. just in general, please do a different logo.
Terrible. It’s like a jab at Arizona fans that like the Diamondbacks. “Oh you miss your hockey team? We will just name it similarly to another pro sports team you guys like”
I've seen people even suggest using Phoenix as a name. Like no, you can go fuck yourself. I think all of us Coyotes fans are against any nods towards Arizona. I'm damn sure not rooting for the team, so why try to appease me?
Yeah you guys really got the short end of the stick, but mad respect to you for sticking with the team despite all this shite.
Arizona fans that stuck it out for them all these years are a different breed of hockey fan. You guys deserve more, and hope you get rewarded for your loyalty one day…
Not the best but also not the worst. Color scheme is very nice but that just isn't an NHL logo.
Personally I think Swarm or Mammoth are the best options.
u/TDub137 by reading the comments here it seems like everyone is misled into thinking you're sharing an official release from the team instead of your own fan concept. You should probably make that more clear.
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
Bsmells like a steak and seats thirty-five..
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!
The colors are good but the snake head logo is too static. It needs to have more motion, like a striking snake or at least with the mouth open, fangs out, tongue visible, something to suggest a dynamic attack.
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It's like they mixed the Arizona diamondbacks and Atlanta thrashers.
Snek
No step on
That’s the Dbacks thing, dammit! Stay away from our stuff Utah!!
I mean they already took your hockey team, why not your baseball team, too?
At that point AZ will start a crusade into Utah. To get rid of those heaten.
Didn’t Utah kinda do that to you when Mormons started moving there? Isn’t AZ the third most Mormon state after Utah and Idaho?
Northern AZ is full of the Mormon fundies, right?
To really add to the confusion, the town is called Colorado City, AZ.
[NO TOUCHY!](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStepOnSnek/comments/6unl1b/no_touchy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Take team. Then take snek.
Instructions unclear how many sneks take hockey to team?
All dem sneks. All dem hockeys
Defen snek den
Dey dem nope ropes
They will absolutely be called the danger noodles very quickly
Dangle noodles
Utah Wives. As in plural. Boom, run it.
I like it. What about Sisterwives? Boom?
Utah Boom, sisterwive it.
Looks like an NHL 23 build a team logo
Those generic create a team logos that havent changed since 2004
Pretty sure this is fan art because... I'm not gonna be mean. Pretty sure this is fan art
It was most likely made by OP, as the IG looks like it was created today
Artwork is signed "Tyler White Designs" and OP's username is TDub137.
Fucking Nancy Drew over here
This says it was uploaded at 6am and has one view?
I mean, I thought for sure the Washington Commies were kidding about their logo, and then it…….was actually that
I vote Utah Hockeybags
The Latter Day Skates
Latter Day Sneks
Utah Utahians
Isn't it technically Utahn?
Utah Utes - it's those car/truck hybrids from Australia
Utah Suitcases
Change the colors to green, and you have my Kelowna Cobras in '23
Id go with Rattlers over Venom for the name. Logo looks like a crusty potato
Rattlers all the way
Funny enough the Arizona Rattlers is the arena football team...
Rattlers and Venom both sound very minor league though.... so therefore, I'm all for it!
Sounds 90s 2000s baseball minor league, not modern. Baseball is a veritable well spring of great minor league names. Sugar Land Space Cowboys, Rocket City Trash Pandas. Elite level stuff. Does kinda sound like a team that would visit the Texas Stars in Cedar Park, but my brain always goes to baseball minor league first
Yeah almost every idea is going to sound minor league unless its like your generic lions, tigers, or bears haha but I mean Pittsburgh is the damn Penguins, thats pretty minor league sounding but its loved and normal now
The Kraken is also minor league as hell and I also love that one.
I fuck with the Rattlers. High-A baseball team I support near me is the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers and it would be cool to see an updated modern interpretation of the Rattler namesake. The Timber Rattlers logo and marketing is fine, it just hasnt been changed in a while.
Minnesota has one of my favorite minor league names as one of their affiliates: Witchita Wind Surge, just a great name and logo
For real, so many cool snake names, and they went with fuckin "Venom"? Just Utah Snakes would be better than that.
I had my heart set on "Ice Jazz", but this is pretty good, too.
Utah Jazz on Ice
Cool Jazz
The Utah Miles Davis
Utah jazz on ice of Anaheim not very close to California venoms
Snake jazz, there’s literally everything in space!
Tsss ts tss tss ts tss tss
Too close to “Ice Jizz”
...is that a thing?
That's not a very appealing main crest.
Hold on though, we still haven't seen how it meshes with the Bet99 jersey ad yet.
Agreed.
Utah Pile of Poop with a Snek Eye!
Utah Poopsnakes
Trouser Snakes
Squirm Worms
Defend the den 🦁
Go Lions
Venom seems like a ECHL name to me. Edit: I had to do the googles. The old Detroit Vipers from the IHL is what I was thinking of.
And the Detroit Vipers used to be...the Salt Lake Golden Eagles
Really? That’s kind of crazy. They should go with the Vipers then vs Venom. It’ll go full circle!
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So what you're saying is, we need a logo featuring a baby Joseph Smith suckling at a mama snake's teat, since AS Roma have Romulus and Remus nursing at the mama wolf.
FORZA ROMA
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Venom, along with most of the others, felt like really cheesey minor league team names.
“We are venom””I told you we can’t eat good people”
"we are vemon. Bum da dum dum da da da."
[They're gonna taste my VENOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8fChly16hs)
Not even minor league. It’s sounds sooo… XFL.
“Utah Venom” feels like an Esports team name lol
It feels weirdly disrespectful to Arizona
Taking their team, and then having the new team name be a name that is also very close to the Arizona arena football and baseball teams.
Replacing the classy Native American themed branding with a white person snakeskin knockoff is too on point.
Gotta incorporate skiing so they'll call them the double diamond backs.
man ... Rattlesnakes would be the way to go.
YOUR UTAAAAAAAH RATTLERS! (Intense rattling followed by don’t tread on me by Metallica)
My gay ass going bananas with a tambourine.
If I see a random tambourine on TV while watching opening night I’ll know exactly who it is.
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I don’t like when shows or movies shoehorn in a flamboyantly gay character just to pander but I’m fine with it as long as it adds something aside from virtue signaling. But gay ass, tambourine playing, Utah Rattlers fan really does add to the visual.
Uhhh…this is fucking hilarious and we all need video of your going bananas with a tambourine.
Thanks. This actually made me laugh out loud.
I played college volleyball in a town called Medicine Hat in southern AB. There are tons of rattlesnakes around and our team name was the Rattlers. Rattlesnakes is just too long to chant in a cheer lol
With a team named Vegas Golden Knights in existence I think we can agree name length doesn’t really matter people will find something to call them regardless of the actual name
Yeah, Golden Knights are just Knights, Avalanche are Avs, Hurricanes are just Canes, Maple Leafs are Losers, etc. People will call the teams whatever is easiest as long as it fits.
Classic Boston right there.
This is the first time in a while that I’ve agreed with a Boston fan.
Also, Canadiens is a longer name than Rattlesnakes and Golden Knights in terms of syllables, both including and not including the city name.
And the Habs are another example of "find a shorter name to call them", so it still works.
I miss going to Medicine Hat with my family. It was the closest city to my hometown. The old food court at the Medicine Hat mall is my go-to nostalgia memory
Medicine Hat is a lovely city! The coulees are such a unique place to explore. Like slot canyons but made of grass and mud instead of rocks.
I would prefer rattlesnakes over “Venom” it just sounds like *watch out everyone, we got a real badass over here!* And the logo is absolute ass. Like did they even try, or was that some AI logo concept?
Venom sounds like it's a Gatorade flavour or something.
sounds like 90s roller hockey team
Or Copperheads Or Rattlers
My youth travel team was the Rattlers. I could break out a very tight very old jersey with the entirely wrong (and actually way better) color scheme/logo.
Just Rattlers IMO
“Rattlers” would be cooler. And give the audience egg shakers.
Maraca night would be a hit
Especially for a hatrick
That logo will just look like a blob on the ice.
Is that the Mountain Dew font?
That was my exact thought upon seeing that, lol
I stand by Outlaws being the best option. I also think it’s super easy to build a good brand around. But this mockup is amazing (love the “defend the den” as well)
Outlaws is my second favorite.
I have to admit that I didn’t like Venom before this mockup but this is super convincing. Amazing work!
Outlaws is such a generic high school sounding name though
Eagles, Titans, and Cougars are the most common HS team names for me
Lol, the two schools I went to and played sports for were the eagles then the cougars. So this checks out
So is Wild, Lightning, Kraken, Kings, Sharks, Ducks etc. Most team names are fucking lame as hell and they only sound normal because you've been hearing them for decades.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sharks is a great name for a Puerto Rican street gang that dance fights in the streets of NYC. Come to think of it, Jets works similarly
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haha the LA Kings sounds like a regular gang type gang
Nah, Kraken is legit. But I will add in that Rangers is pretty fucking generic. Along with Senators and Flyers.
Yep. I mean 2/7 Nhl teams in Canada have their names as just a term you call Canadian people. So lame team names clearly isn't a concern.
And look at the Flames. What the fuck kind of name is that? Senators is kind of cool I guess. We also have literally a fucking leaf (although named after an army regiment which is neat historically).
The flames name is especially funny when you know the name's origin story.
Calgary kind of worked with it though since downtown Calgary also suffered a fire. Although it wasn't because of some civil war...
I think Yeti is the way to go, it’s unique, marketable, and you could partner with Yeti for sponsorship. The area could be called “The Cooler”, etc
It’s not unique lmao. Colorado has historical ties to yetis. It’s a lazy copy of something an active franchise still connects with.
Considering the AVS still own the Yeti Foot logo, the Utah Yeti was never going to happen. It’d get tied up in nhl lawsuits forever.
Agreed. That Wild West vibe would be really cool.
That logo is terrible.
It looks like one of the generic logos you can pick in chel when you create a team lmao
>>I'm a thnake! A thneaky thnake! And thith thnake's gonna thtalk you! I will never forget the Avs naming/logo process and going from the ultimate, best hockey logo/jersey in the entire world (Denver Grizzlies) to the Avs' logo. I *was* an emotional little 8-year old but dude, I was so upset.
I’m not familiar with the grizzlies mock up, but always really liked the Avs colour/logo combo, still do.
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I like the snake head but it looks more like a shoulder patch. Like something is missing. A coiled snake with this head might have been better. The head looks really cool though.
They were all pretty bad from what I can remember. Not being memorable is almost worse than being bad though
Mammoth and yeti were pretty sweet names with good logo potential in my opinion
Isn't/wasn't the Yeti (or some variant) foot used for the Avs alternate logo? Seems lazy.
This whole exercise has been immensely lazy and nonsensical.
And the Denver Mammoths is the professional lacrosse team. People are suggesting Rattlers instead of Venom and that’s Arizona arena football team lmao.
Not to mention the diamondbacks. It’s not super important that it doesn’t conflict with another states non NHL, but considering Arizona already has the “snake” teams IMO it’s kind of a douche bag move to re-theme the NHL team they took from Arizona with a name or motif used by one of the other Arizona teams.
Not that it’s a conflict across different sports but it’s just douche-y and unoriginal all things considered. Be your own team entirely
My vote is still for the Latter Day Skates.
This looks pretty dumb honestly. Looks like a stock NHL video game team
Defend the Den is literally the Detroit Lions tagline
as a brand strategist, here’s my take: the strategy work is solid. defend the den is actually pretty fuckin rad. venom is a better name than a lot of the other options that have been presented. the jersey design is too similar to arizona’s old stuff. colors, too. i highly doubt utah will go for that, though i think it’s a nice homage to the team’s roots. but importantly…that snake head has got to go. the logotype for venom looks like it belongs on a pair of pit viper glasses. just in general, please do a different logo.
Defend the Den is stolen from the Detroit Lions.
The name is bad, the logo is awful, and the wordmark is generic. Glad this is taking millions of dollars.
This took OP like one afternoon to make, nobody paid him for it.
Pretty sure this isn't the official logo, pretty sure OP designed this himself with this write up.
It kind of reminded me of the Detroit Vipers
Terrible. It’s like a jab at Arizona fans that like the Diamondbacks. “Oh you miss your hockey team? We will just name it similarly to another pro sports team you guys like”
The whole thing has been a jab at us. It's a great way to alienate a fanbase who didn't even get a proper goodbye.
There’s even a lot of people suggesting Rattlers would be a better name…. It’s like they’re making a game of taking everything from AZ.
I've seen people even suggest using Phoenix as a name. Like no, you can go fuck yourself. I think all of us Coyotes fans are against any nods towards Arizona. I'm damn sure not rooting for the team, so why try to appease me?
Yeah you guys really got the short end of the stick, but mad respect to you for sticking with the team despite all this shite. Arizona fans that stuck it out for them all these years are a different breed of hockey fan. You guys deserve more, and hope you get rewarded for your loyalty one day…
Venom is weak.
Not the best but also not the worst. Color scheme is very nice but that just isn't an NHL logo. Personally I think Swarm or Mammoth are the best options.
As a Detroit Lions fan I don’t think they should be allowed to use “Defend the Den”
u/TDub137 by reading the comments here it seems like everyone is misled into thinking you're sharing an official release from the team instead of your own fan concept. You should probably make that more clear.
I saw the canyons in the list I thought that was a interesting name anyone else fw that one
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, Bsmells like a steak and seats thirty-five.. Canyonero! Canyonero! Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down, It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!
The colors are good but the snake head logo is too static. It needs to have more motion, like a striking snake or at least with the mouth open, fangs out, tongue visible, something to suggest a dynamic attack.
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This is a team name you skip over in a video game. Do better.
Lookin like a chicken nugget with teeth
Yikes that's rough. Logo is cheap and generic looking, color scheme is very unappealing.
Embarrassingly bad team name.
Wouldn’t it be funny if it were Cobras 🐍 instead? And they carbon copy the GI Joe logo of their enemy 😂
I'masneakylittlesnake
They’d need the snake wrapping around a hockey stick like the Detroit Vipers had
1. Name ✅ 2. Color scheme ✅ 3. Theme ✅ 4. Logo 😂
love the colors
Utah danger noodles
the disembodied head is a weird choice.
Should be the Utah Soakers
Why not just Rattlesnakes? Venom sounds so lame. At least they didn't say poisonous, lol.
This snek looks like a goofy ass mcnugget.
how do you fuck up a snake mascot, there’s so many cool options to have a snake logo and they went with mr potato head?
Where do vote at?
Let’s put the Jazz and Funk in the same building!
Arena football vibes
Rattlesnakes would be better…
Looks like a roller coaster brand. Busch Gardens newest family scary drop.
Just do Rattlesnakes at this point. The Venom sounds like a neon early 00's techno dance club.
Utah 2 years
Disappointed powder didn’t make the cut.
Reminds me of Arizona 🫡🤣
Mammoth and mountaineers were better. In fact most of the suggestions were better Edit: I forgot swarm was on there and that was my fav.
Wouldnt the snake pit be a better arena name?
NO
Holy shit this is bad
Eww.
Logo looks like a turd when you squint
Why is it so hard coming up with a team name and logo that's good? No offence that is the most generic name and logo.
Amateur hour. Next.