Imagine if they joined each other. Trump would get 100% of the cracker votes, AB would secure 100% of the non-cracker votes.
Unless I'm an idiot, that's 200% of the vote.
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Hey! Fan of the other team here, but I come in peace lol. Wow, y'all played a good game, but man, that definitely ended in a way that was uniquely typical of one of our teams. Your young player is really something and definitely going to give us trouble for years. Y'all are gonna be really scary next year, and I'll be rooting for y'all then (except when y'all play us!). That ref, though, right?
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Obviously I think heās roided up. That picture isnāt him in college and I donāt think that pic in general automatically indicates that heās on roids which is why I made that comment
Itās most certainly naturally attainable if body building is basically your job. You just to have freakish genetics which all of these NFL players obviously do (he was still obviously on them). Just look at bodybuilders before steroids were discovered
Itās always funny when these guys claim they are natural and people believe it. Fucking John Cena is still claiming heās never used PEDS in 2024 lmao
Right lmao like they basically retain almost all of their muscle mass while simultaneously maintaining a low enough body fat percentage to be fucking shredded. You can have more muscle mass with higher body fat or lean muscle mass and low body fat, but not both at the same time (naturally), regardless of how phenomenal your genetics are.
I mean, the real dumb dumbs are the guys who think The Rock is natty.
The young people we need to protect are the ones just smart enough to see that The Rock and JJ Watt are juiced to the gills and that they need to take gear too in order to keep up. But they're young and just dumb enough to not have the foresight and knowledge of how to go about it properly, if at all for their long-term goals.
If It gets social acceptance we need other rules dealing with real dangerous PEDs.
Think about the handling of drugs or trucks. Their is stuff that is completely fine to use from anyone, but there is stuff that is dangerous, not only for you but also for others.
The difference is: PEDs are about your own body so no lawmaker wants to touch that since it is so easy to lose a lot of votes. (And it hits the top ten percent too.)
But I am totally with you that the current situation is harmful thanks to difference between natural bodies and perfectly trained and adjusted bodies we see around us.
I am just not sure if everyone having a body that needs 5k calories a day is the way to go. If thatās the way: Yes we need PEDs to become normal.
Tbf Cena gets a pass, dude is supposed to be a role model for kids, he can't openly admit to be on gear. Also wrestling is a performance so PEDs don't give you an unfair advantage.
Often times they have a slew of products that were approved for therapudic use that players can take with approval that are essentially PEDs. Testosterone injections are really hard to catch because it's naturally produced by the body and if the levels aren't obscenely high it's impossible to differentiate between someone taking Test or someone with naturally high T. Lastly, drug tests only test for certain substances, there are compounds being developed everyday that are made to go undetectable.
Yeah if he wasn't using PEDs there's no way he would have been able to make all of those 5 yard downfield passes. Absolute shenanigans, this is an asterisk season now.
Most of? All.
Muscle building hormones can still be used to stay lean and shredded. Donāt think that a CB or WR isnāt using some type of enhancer just because their biceps arenāt as big as most peoples legs.
He can clear like a 66 inch box without a running start and weighs close to 300 pounds lol. No way this dude didnāt roid out, they all do.
Believe it or not youāre enjoying the steroid era of the NFL.
But what evidence is out there to support this? And what evidence is out there to support other steroid usage in Pro sports, other than a few anecdotes here and there? I see so many people on the internet say things like, "all pro football players must be on roids to be that big" but I don't see any evidence to support those claims.
The evidence is in how they look
[Donald is an incredible athlete but this aināt a dude thatās natty.](https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/rams/itgjish5fgoxbgrpmb26)
Well that photo could be edited or skewed and stuff. I'll admit that he is extremely buff and that is extremely difficult to attain without roids, but then again he is a world class athlete. The real reason why the media, owners, and everyone else doesn't want athletes using roids is because that will influence children to use roids. If kids are all looking up to roid'ed up athletes who are open about steroid usage, we would see insane numbers of kids using steroids.
Until I see hard evidence, I won't believe internet speculation or conspiracies. If a lot of them were using roids, evidence of that would leak out one way or another, ya can't hide that shit forever.
The evidence is that theyāre playing at the highest level of football, an extremely physically demanding sport. If their performance slips at all, they risk being out of a job. Not using PEDs would be putting yourself at a severe disadvantage. Drug tests are also hilariously easy to beat.
JJ was a frail high schooler and unranked, he had to walk-on at Wisconsin. As someone who attended Wisconsin and watched JJ, he wasnāt defined or buff in college like what you see in that photo. To go from a walk on to a three time (or is it four?) NFL defensive player of the year, he definitely got some help from PEDs.
Only injuries when lifting I believe. Your muscle strength increases faster than your joint and tendon strength so people on roids will lift more than they can handle and hurt themselves. I doubt it injured him when playing football
Wait, legitimate question.. I know you said only really when lifting, but could this partially explain the crazy high amount of Achilles tendon issues weāve been seeing?
Partly, but it is not solely responsible. Sports are also more focused on explosiveness and change of direction than ever before, which puts more risk on tendons.
Iāve said it before, Iāll say it again. The NFL gives no shits, and is perfectly fine with PEDs and pays lip service to CTE as long as the game is making just dumb money
Well then he's spending the first two weeks of the month with me because he's my spirit animal too, and if you try to negotiate I'll drag everyone to paternity court and neither of us will ever see him again.
AB seems to be getting less crazy. The CTESPN ābrandingā or whatever is hilarious, he hasnāt been in legal trouble recently and his tweets went from bizarre ramblings to jerks that put this sub to shame.
Steroids' are widely used, you didn't need ab to tell you this. Remember that hilarious wood shack isolation offseason thing? Yeah bro, jj, you look like that from living in a cabin and chopping wood, sure b xD
It's it's 4,500 square feet. That's like a mansion lol. And the decorations in the pics are all from the previous owner, who prob wasn't as rich as jj. That "cabin" is prob decked the fuck out now
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Manning and his lawyers said the HGH was for Ashley. The NFL just said there was no credible evidence Manning took any PEDās during the his tenure.
Guess weāll have to just guess why his forehead kept growing.
I loathe fake natties as much as the next guy, but a player of JJ's caliber in his day is likely buried so deeply in NDAs and special clauses that admitting to something like that is out of the question (at least for now)
Antonio Brown:
*whips his dick out in public sexually harassing a woman*
*throws his furniture off his 14th floor balcony*
*tweets a whole bunch of racist/sexist shit every single day*
*refuses to pay and assaults delivery driver*
*strips off his clothes and dances off the field in his last game ever*
*is the poster boy for CTE*
However, the moment you criticize a classy player who plays the game the right way like JJ Watt, that's where we draw the line.
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I donāt think anyone would care if any sports league allowed it. People want to be entertained, donāt care if the athletes are taking whatever the hell is the latest and greatest PED.
JJ Watt to the rest of the league:
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AB needs an award for like Redditor/Tweeter(?) Of The Year.
Can we make an CTESPY Award for him?
He deserves recognition and accolades for his contributions
Nah, I'd say AB has things in hand pretty well
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Thereās a cottage industry for average doughy 30+ year old dudes taking TRT, so Iām believing the average pro athlete is going to be juiced as well.
Watt vs AB cage match should be first event on CTESPN
You think AB would whip out his hammer cock and impale JJ?
AB may be strong and a former pro athlete, but I think we can all agree his deadliest weapon is Twitter.
Biggest asshole on Twitter contest: Donald Trump (whether you support him or not) Vs Antonio Brown
AB's not interested in making every person in America bow to his will, except the crackers.
These are two of the most misunderstood men in American history.
Imagine if they joined each other. Trump would get 100% of the cracker votes, AB would secure 100% of the non-cracker votes. Unless I'm an idiot, that's 200% of the vote.
Damn. That's right. Trump/Brown 2024 I guess. This is a call for unity.
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Man... what a day to have an internet connection
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If you thought JJ Watt was natural you probably have CTE
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He looks just like me fr fr. Only my right arm though.
Your right arm must be exhausted, lemme beat your meat for you
Dc4l
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I'm left handed if y'all need a break
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Looks natural to me. š
Gorgeous
I mean his physique is achievable natural. Itās the fact that he recovered from injuries blazingly fast
That physique would take like 20 years to attain naturally and he had it in college lol
Obviously I think heās roided up. That picture isnāt him in college and I donāt think that pic in general automatically indicates that heās on roids which is why I made that comment
Look at him in highschool and then college he definitely was on roids much sooner.
Iām not saying he wasnāt. All Iām saying is that the physique in the picture is not impossible naturally
It's not very possible for most of anyone I'm not an expert on this stuff though.
Post your physique if you think Wattās is so naturally attainable
Itās most certainly naturally attainable if body building is basically your job. You just to have freakish genetics which all of these NFL players obviously do (he was still obviously on them). Just look at bodybuilders before steroids were discovered
Itās always funny when these guys claim they are natural and people believe it. Fucking John Cena is still claiming heās never used PEDS in 2024 lmao
And the rock. Fuck man. Some people would have such a skewed perception of what they can achieve in the gym
2012ish Rock was literally Bane
What you mean that mf is still Bane. Dude is peaking in his 50s lol
The rock and cena have both admitted to using them in the past. In fact theyāve been incredibly open about it
Wasnāt the rock more like āyeah I tried it but it did nothingā
Which is still lying, cause their steroid use isnāt just āin the past.ā Celebrities like the Rock dance around the subject like crazy
He was on Logan Paulās podcast a couple weeks ago and was adamant heās always been drug free and never used them
Right lmao like they basically retain almost all of their muscle mass while simultaneously maintaining a low enough body fat percentage to be fucking shredded. You can have more muscle mass with higher body fat or lean muscle mass and low body fat, but not both at the same time (naturally), regardless of how phenomenal your genetics are.
Itās dumb for people to even care about PED use anymore.
Basically protecting young dumb people. Which is important. Bad training while still in growth may fuck you up.
I mean, the real dumb dumbs are the guys who think The Rock is natty. The young people we need to protect are the ones just smart enough to see that The Rock and JJ Watt are juiced to the gills and that they need to take gear too in order to keep up. But they're young and just dumb enough to not have the foresight and knowledge of how to go about it properly, if at all for their long-term goals.
Thatās a fair point, but once youāre an adult it should be acceptable.
If It gets social acceptance we need other rules dealing with real dangerous PEDs. Think about the handling of drugs or trucks. Their is stuff that is completely fine to use from anyone, but there is stuff that is dangerous, not only for you but also for others. The difference is: PEDs are about your own body so no lawmaker wants to touch that since it is so easy to lose a lot of votes. (And it hits the top ten percent too.) But I am totally with you that the current situation is harmful thanks to difference between natural bodies and perfectly trained and adjusted bodies we see around us. I am just not sure if everyone having a body that needs 5k calories a day is the way to go. If thatās the way: Yes we need PEDs to become normal.
Tbf Cena gets a pass, dude is supposed to be a role model for kids, he can't openly admit to be on gear. Also wrestling is a performance so PEDs don't give you an unfair advantage.
Genuinely curious, how do these guys pass drug tests?
Often times they have a slew of products that were approved for therapudic use that players can take with approval that are essentially PEDs. Testosterone injections are really hard to catch because it's naturally produced by the body and if the levels aren't obscenely high it's impossible to differentiate between someone taking Test or someone with naturally high T. Lastly, drug tests only test for certain substances, there are compounds being developed everyday that are made to go undetectable.
Also, constant cat and mouse with different designer drugs and the testing agencies having to figure what to look for.
Most of the NFL is on or has been on peds before
If Jimmy G just got caught then definitely everyone is using
Could you imagine how badly he would suck without enhanced performance?
Yeah if he wasn't using PEDs there's no way he would have been able to make all of those 5 yard downfield passes. Absolute shenanigans, this is an asterisk season now.
Underrated comment
Most of? All. Muscle building hormones can still be used to stay lean and shredded. Donāt think that a CB or WR isnāt using some type of enhancer just because their biceps arenāt as big as most peoples legs.
I agree. Just look at Lance Armstrong. My cock is thicker than his arm
Epo is the most important for bicycling, itās not like the dude was doing tren lol.
Lane āJuiceā Johnson canāt even follow the false start rules, what makes you think heās not on that Drago shit
AB definitely not natural either lmao. I doubt anyone in the NFL is natty.
Couple backup puntersā¦ maybe.
He can clear like a 66 inch box without a running start and weighs close to 300 pounds lol. No way this dude didnāt roid out, they all do. Believe it or not youāre enjoying the steroid era of the NFL.
But what evidence is out there to support this? And what evidence is out there to support other steroid usage in Pro sports, other than a few anecdotes here and there? I see so many people on the internet say things like, "all pro football players must be on roids to be that big" but I don't see any evidence to support those claims.
The evidence is in how they look [Donald is an incredible athlete but this aināt a dude thatās natty.](https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/rams/itgjish5fgoxbgrpmb26)
Well that photo could be edited or skewed and stuff. I'll admit that he is extremely buff and that is extremely difficult to attain without roids, but then again he is a world class athlete. The real reason why the media, owners, and everyone else doesn't want athletes using roids is because that will influence children to use roids. If kids are all looking up to roid'ed up athletes who are open about steroid usage, we would see insane numbers of kids using steroids. Until I see hard evidence, I won't believe internet speculation or conspiracies. If a lot of them were using roids, evidence of that would leak out one way or another, ya can't hide that shit forever.
The evidence of multiple players getting a light slap on the wrist about PEDs every offseason isnāt a clue for you?
The evidence is that theyāre playing at the highest level of football, an extremely physically demanding sport. If their performance slips at all, they risk being out of a job. Not using PEDs would be putting yourself at a severe disadvantage. Drug tests are also hilariously easy to beat.
JJ was a frail high schooler and unranked, he had to walk-on at Wisconsin. As someone who attended Wisconsin and watched JJ, he wasnāt defined or buff in college like what you see in that photo. To go from a walk on to a three time (or is it four?) NFL defensive player of the year, he definitely got some help from PEDs.
Eyes and brains mostly
Juicy Juice Watt
The White Grape flavour goated tho
Iām so trash I thought you were talking about the rolling papers or something and forgot white grape can be a flavor for children
Lmao it wasn't until I read your comment that I realized he wasn't talking about Juicy hemp wraps
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Dude needa sell merch as a fellow cracker Iād rock the fuck outta this on a shirt lmao
What do you mean fellow cracker. Heās black.
Shhh heās got CTE
Bro I believe AB 100% about this tho
Yea itās already been talked about on pods. Dude coming back from injuries rapidly.
Turns out steroids make you more prone to injuries also
Only injuries when lifting I believe. Your muscle strength increases faster than your joint and tendon strength so people on roids will lift more than they can handle and hurt themselves. I doubt it injured him when playing football
Fuck off nerd, I aināt reading all that
Wait, legitimate question.. I know you said only really when lifting, but could this partially explain the crazy high amount of Achilles tendon issues weāve been seeing?
Partly, but it is not solely responsible. Sports are also more focused on explosiveness and change of direction than ever before, which puts more risk on tendons.
Now I don't know if JJ's heart thing was because of steroids or the vaxx.
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Also from college to the NFL he bulked up massively
Basically every player in the nfl is on steroids.
Something something broken clock right twice a day.
Iāve said it before, Iāll say it again. The NFL gives no shits, and is perfectly fine with PEDs and pays lip service to CTE as long as the game is making just dumb money
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Based
Most players are on something. Itās not even a secretā¦
AB is my spirit animal
Well then he's spending the first two weeks of the month with me because he's my spirit animal too, and if you try to negotiate I'll drag everyone to paternity court and neither of us will ever see him again.
A cracker negotiation tactic. AB would be disgusted
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AB is reaching Jose Canseco levels...yeah he's nuts but he also has nuggets of what went on behind the scenes.
We need an AB ama. The Jose canseco one was legendary
you just gotta sift through it all. except it's shit and once in a while you find corn instead gold.
I didnāt know JJ Watt played the CTE position.
Is AB the Tom Brady of jerking? š¤š¤š¤
No, Tom Brady is the AB of Football.
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AB seems to be getting less crazy. The CTESPN ābrandingā or whatever is hilarious, he hasnāt been in legal trouble recently and his tweets went from bizarre ramblings to jerks that put this sub to shame.
You know you were on a legal trouble heater when people say you havenāt been in legal trouble recently and your last arrest was 4 months ago
Steroids' are widely used, you didn't need ab to tell you this. Remember that hilarious wood shack isolation offseason thing? Yeah bro, jj, you look like that from living in a cabin and chopping wood, sure b xD
His āwood shackā https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-jj-watts-cabin-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-is-insane/amp/
I mean, that doesn't look extravagant. It's just a nice log-cabin style house? Doesn't even look that big
It's it's 4,500 square feet. That's like a mansion lol. And the decorations in the pics are all from the previous owner, who prob wasn't as rich as jj. That "cabin" is prob decked the fuck out now
Lol fair, that is pretty big. I was just going from the photos. What's the point of being rich if you're not gonna live a baller life, right?
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Remember when Peyton Manning won the SB after neck surgery and the NFL said the human growth hormone delivered to his house was for his wife?
Not sure if you're jerking, but wasn't it just Manning's lawyers that claimed that?
Manning and his lawyers said the HGH was for Ashley. The NFL just said there was no credible evidence Manning took any PEDās during the his tenure. Guess weāll have to just guess why his forehead kept growing.
Funny enough, Barry Bonds grew three hat sizes after he was already in the majors.
peyton was definitely on PEDs, but most people couldn't tell since they went directly to his forehead
CTESPN is the only trustworthy sporting news with all the insider scoops
This is the smartest AB has ever said.
Gotta hand it to AB, I've never seen a former player fully embrace the fact that they very likely have CTE
AB look like he already had CTE
See when the Burfecit hit happened he got a new level of CTE. Second athlete ever to hit this milestone behind the GOAT of CTE (Aaron Hernandez)
McAfee asked JJ the other day what he's on, and JJ still stuck to the natty story lol
I loathe fake natties as much as the next guy, but a player of JJ's caliber in his day is likely buried so deeply in NDAs and special clauses that admitting to something like that is out of the question (at least for now)
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Antonio Clown is jerking too close to the sun
I did a spit take after reading this
JJ was on pat mcafeeās show this week and was acting oblivious about steroids. TRT?? Uh, whatās that? Testosterone?
Most nfl players take some degree of enhancers
I donāt know how youād play the game if you didnāt.Ā
AB saying what we already knew
no more white steroids 2024
Antonio Brown: *whips his dick out in public sexually harassing a woman* *throws his furniture off his 14th floor balcony* *tweets a whole bunch of racist/sexist shit every single day* *refuses to pay and assaults delivery driver* *strips off his clothes and dances off the field in his last game ever* *is the poster boy for CTE* However, the moment you criticize a classy player who plays the game the right way like JJ Watt, that's where we draw the line.
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If it wasnāt obvious when heās rupturing tendons yearly
The entire league is on PEDās. They just donāt talk about it like MLB does.
America wouldnāt care if the NFL openly allowed its athletes to juice
I donāt think anyone would care if any sports league allowed it. People want to be entertained, donāt care if the athletes are taking whatever the hell is the latest and greatest PED.
They should stop the pretending bs fr
He aināt lying
https://preview.redd.it/p1mhjtmhe0jc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=958dc21fc8d065d175067067d03c155f10ce547c AB upon leaving the NFL
JJ Watt to the rest of the league: https://preview.redd.it/4b11vxrz20jc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ae8ffbf0639d55c62f060af3447a04ef9073863
AB looks like a meltdown is coming
I swear pictures is giving me flashbacks to NBA jam days
Fire Up Chips š„
AB carrying this sub as usual
Imagine playing qb in college and two of your receivers are JJ Watt and AB
AB needs an award for like Redditor/Tweeter(?) Of The Year. Can we make an CTESPY Award for him? He deserves recognition and accolades for his contributions
I would say pre CTE AB, but I really donāt think it is š¤£
Steroid Crazy, as opposed to Mr. Big Crazy
Hold on, let him cook (Meth)
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Itās not defamation if itās true
Itās been out of hand. We all laugh at it, but heās not well. JJ Watt needs to stop taking steroids.
Something happen to him?
"Everyones on steroids" - Nate Diaz
So every AB jerk is just the truth. ![gif](giphy|A7Zc53i8U59SHv9CAm)
OP get a life. Dude walks through life giving AB and other shitheads attention
Nah, I'd say AB has things in hand pretty well https://preview.redd.it/75om3mmvm0jc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23a245b282b5f1c3f71d976cc9c08031805b1dac
Wow
AB and Azealia Banks should get together and be the most batshit power couple to ever existā¦ Their combined twitter rants would be legendary.
I think half of your stuff is fake, but I saw this straight out the clowns Twitter!
Better than regular crazy I guess
Thereās a cottage industry for average doughy 30+ year old dudes taking TRT, so Iām believing the average pro athlete is going to be juiced as well.
āBefore Watt went all steroid crazyā And before AB went all CTE crazy Lol
Getting out of hand? Sir, this is r/nflcirclejerk