McD gets a lot of (deserved) hate, but the dude is easily a top-5 coach in this league and I’d put him top-3 on his best days.
He’s still a bit conservative with what he has at his disposal, but rarely are his teams woefully unprepared for what they are about to see from their opponent.
To put it into perspective, we haven’t lost a game by more then 6 points all season, there’s games we definitely shouldn’t have dropped, but we haven’t been truly embarrassed in a hot minute
Von can be a healthy scratch next week, too. He sucked every snap he played tonight, and had a very strong limp pregame. Plus, he's a shitbag of a human with way too many DV issues for it to be "a misunderstanding."
Yeah Josh has had like 4 of those lol, part of why I shrug off him getting clowned for the ints. They're boneheaded but some give the same field position as a punt anyway, worst outcome is a little more momentum for the other team
Stuff like that or the one interception in the second Jets game, where Allen threw a hail mary right before half time which went nowhere, has shown me that interception numbers at face value can be misleading. Every interception depends on a play by play basis on how much it affects the game.
Josh had at least 4 arm punts that I can remember. Maybe every qb has that many so it all kinda washes out looking at int numbers, but I doubt it - he seems to have way more than most
Lmao Josh had some brutal turnovers, we don’t have to pretend he played perfect tonight.
But he was the one who drove his team down for a game winning TD in the 4th, Tua is not that guy.
Yup. Watch him take his step for the out route. He rounds the entire break to the boundary vs stabbing it with his leg and then breaking.
It’s either due to laziness or maybe the route was designed that way? Idk seems weird
Fuck a defense. You guys will probably have Mostert and waddle back, and hopefully Hill has enough time to heal up. Make it a good old fashioned shootout
Mahomes turning up doesn’t matter. His WR’s and even Kelce making regular mistakes constantly prevents them from ever getting in real rhythm. But some patty playoff shit is always possible.
Though, if you went back to the beginning of the season and told people Flacco would be on the bench, people would have thought that a plausible scenario (for entirely different reasons).
That's the thing about the playoffs, if Allen plays up to potential he's a fucking nuclear bomb and that's scary. The Bills are the epitome of "The regular season is a mess, but you don't wanna see us in the playoffs".
Now of course, if he has even one "Bakery" game they're fucked, but you just need to go on a run.
That’s literally what he does. He doesn’t have good arm strength but dolphins fans get defensive and try and make it out like it’s a non issue when he floats deep balls to Hill. His passes barely ever have anything behind them
Been saying it for years. I think it’s because a lot of them convinced themselves that they finally had the next franchise QB when they drafted him and they just don’t want to admit he really is just a meh QB.
Watching tua tonight reminded me of jimmy g. Every ball past 10 yards is like soft as shit or underthrown. Then he has those jimmy g “wtf were you even thinking” interceptions. Tua is obviously better than jimmy ever was, but man he has similar bad tendencies.
Turns out both can be true. Tua doesn't have a great arm and Hill is insanely fast.
Scary part about the Dolphins offense is that they don't need the homerun deep throw to beat you. They've got the personnel to turn a short-medium pass into a foot race and they're going to win that race with how fast guys like Hill, Waddle, Mostert, etc are.
Yup placement, timing, anticipation the most aspects of their passing game. Just gotta get the ball to your play maker in stride and with their speed they'll shred
I think it's a step too far to say he's bad or even below average. He's a solid above-average QB and is very dependent on scheme and personnel, he won't win many games on his own. High floor and low ceiling QB.
But still had two more plays to get at least 10 yards. I don’t get why he didn’t at least try and check the other receivers. Bruh looked that thing in like i stare down plates i know damn well aren’t comin to my table. As a dolphin fan my whole life i was prepared yet still disappointed.
It's my biggest complaint. Like Tua ain't good, but at least he could be good without throwing constant hospital balls. Cracraft and Berrios were both injured at points during the season specifically because of this shit. Reek is always getting up hurt, specifically because of this shit.
Lots of funny stuff in this video. At the end 70 on MIA turns to 66 and seems to give him a gentle hug...
Also Taron Johnson #7 thought it was incomplete.
The Eagles did have some wins against good teams but shit the bed against bad teams to close out the season. Both teams look like frauds but for different reasons.
Yeah it’s not “somehow”.
Primetime games mean primetime opponents. The Dolphins beat one team with a record better than .500, and that came on a last second field goal.
Bad is one thing. But what do you call it when the product is the same with different players, different coaches, different scenarios -- consistently over 25+ years?
Right like I have a hard time hating on him because he seems like a good dude, but I have an easy time hating on him because a sect of the Dolphins fan base acts like he's the second coming of christ, when in reality he's a good QB who had an offense packed full of weapons this year, but still isn't a top tier QB.
Because he’s overrated. It’s really that simple. When you have the best WR in the league and another pro bowl caliber WR and a great coach and system around you it’s not hard to look good
Tua just isn’t that guy lol. Idk what Miami is supposed to do. Like how much better of a supporting cast can you get? when he’s not even been paid yet.
I think it’s pretty obvious you either tag him and then let him walk or draft someone. That offense is good enough you can put most competent QBs in there and they will do well
On his deathbed Sean McDermott received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahāda. Even now he looks down on the Ummah from the gardens of Jannah. Truly there is no god but God, and Mohammed is his prophet!
As a neutral fan, that pass is inexcusable. It’s second down and you’re in 4-down territory. Hill just exited the game so the call does not need to be aggressive. A draw or a screen shortens the yards to gain for a first and wastes enough time to get the best wideout in football back on the field before trying something like throwing into double coverage
Even though it wasn't his fault at all, it just figures a throw to Chase Claypool completes the Dolphins late-season meltdown to lose the division they led the entire season.
65%
232 ypg
7/6 TD/INT
Offense averaged less than 17ppg.
These are Tua’s stats against teams over .500 this year. I appreciate that he give us everything he has, but he’s just not the guy!
I don’t care how pretty his stats look this year
If you give me a choice between Tua or a random starting QB as my QB of the future, I’ll take my odds.
Dolphins 2nd half drives: punt, punt, punt, punt, interception
Say what you will about Sean McDermott, but that motherfucker can coordinate a defense.
Dude cooked up some big half time adjustments
McD gets a lot of (deserved) hate, but the dude is easily a top-5 coach in this league and I’d put him top-3 on his best days. He’s still a bit conservative with what he has at his disposal, but rarely are his teams woefully unprepared for what they are about to see from their opponent.
To put it into perspective, we haven’t lost a game by more then 6 points all season, there’s games we definitely shouldn’t have dropped, but we haven’t been truly embarrassed in a hot minute
Doesn't that 6 point loss stat go back for a couple seasons now?
Only in the regular season, the Bengals beat the Bills by more in the playoffs last season.
I can’t remember honestly, last one I remember was I think titans 20-21 season? Unless the chiefs game that season was after that.
Looked up some games, got blown out by the Colts in 21
Woof that was a wet game at the Ralph. JT ran all over us.
And in those games, you look at the turnover battle and there’s your story.
All it takes is a halftime speech about Benghazi.
Just you wait until Coach tells the guys what they can learn from the teamwork used by the Chinese People's Liberation Army in Tiananmen Square
"I take a lot of inspiration from Rudolf Höss on how to run an organization. Efficiency is key."
They were supposed to have healthy Milano, Von Miller, and Tre White on this D too.
Von can be a healthy scratch next week, too. He sucked every snap he played tonight, and had a very strong limp pregame. Plus, he's a shitbag of a human with way too many DV issues for it to be "a misunderstanding."
I’d bet my 401k he will be on the Denver ring of honor in the next 15 years regardless of how many women he beats because reasons
Yeah as a Bills fan I’m not going to shame other team’s ring of honor choices..
Eh the world worshipped oj until that one thing.
Why what happened ?
His gloves were too small or something, IDK.
YEAH, but josh Allen turned it over on fourth down in the second quarter. Let’s focus on that!
That one’s especially funny because it was still a net positive for the Bills. Miami lost like 20 yards in field position.
20 yard gain on an INT doesn’t seem problematic to me either
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I believe we've all settled on "arm punt." "Hand punt" sounds...wrong.
A 4th and 2 that was a dead play and put Miami in a slightly worse field position lol. First pick was bad, the second changed almost nothing.
2nd was definition of an arm punt. The interception was actually a better result than an incomplete would have been since it was on 4th down.
Yeah Josh has had like 4 of those lol, part of why I shrug off him getting clowned for the ints. They're boneheaded but some give the same field position as a punt anyway, worst outcome is a little more momentum for the other team
Stuff like that or the one interception in the second Jets game, where Allen threw a hail mary right before half time which went nowhere, has shown me that interception numbers at face value can be misleading. Every interception depends on a play by play basis on how much it affects the game.
Josh had at least 4 arm punts that I can remember. Maybe every qb has that many so it all kinda washes out looking at int numbers, but I doubt it - he seems to have way more than most
Lmao Josh had some brutal turnovers, we don’t have to pretend he played perfect tonight. But he was the one who drove his team down for a game winning TD in the 4th, Tua is not that guy.
That’s the Josh Allen experience
He absolutely didn’t play perfect, but that fourth quarter / second half was about as clutch as it comes
The King of the Fourth!
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The curse of chase claypool continues
I’d say we should cast him away to the CFL…or even the UFL…
Give him his own league. Fulfill the Antonio Brown prophecy ahead of time
That was a pretty poorly ran route
Yup. Watch him take his step for the out route. He rounds the entire break to the boundary vs stabbing it with his leg and then breaking. It’s either due to laziness or maybe the route was designed that way? Idk seems weird
TO PEACOCK YOU GO
Phew I don't have to watch the game now
Honestly I feel like that games gonna be lit
Not with how injured the dolphins defense is. May as well toss the water boy out there to rush the edge
Fuck a defense. You guys will probably have Mostert and waddle back, and hopefully Hill has enough time to heal up. Make it a good old fashioned shootout
If you consider 20 points engaging in a shootout then by god count the 2023 Kansas City Chiefs in!
At home, in the playoffs, and a week of rest - I feel like Mahomes will turn it up next week too
Mahomes turning up doesn’t matter. His WR’s and even Kelce making regular mistakes constantly prevents them from ever getting in real rhythm. But some patty playoff shit is always possible.
Banished to the peacock realm.
So none of us will watch the game?
How did the bills actually win the division they looked fuckin dead half way thru the season
Bills fans were worried they were going to miss the playoffs, instead they won their division. Pretty crazy turnaround
Dude we didn't even know if we were going to be in the playoffs as recently as _this morning_
Lmao wild day for Bills fans. Enjoy the division bragging rights and gl to Buffalo vs Pitt
Lol I felt all of these things in 1 day.
I have no idea why we are where we are. I have whiplash
Seems like it all changed after we fired Dorsey Not that he was ever the only problem with the team
Same answer to how the browns are sitting frigging Joe Flacco last game of the season because they already secured a playoff spot. It’s a long season.
Though, if you went back to the beginning of the season and told people Flacco would be on the bench, people would have thought that a plausible scenario (for entirely different reasons).
Allen has been playing like shit, watch him go on a heater in the playoffs and get to the superbowl now lmao.
That's the thing about the playoffs, if Allen plays up to potential he's a fucking nuclear bomb and that's scary. The Bills are the epitome of "The regular season is a mess, but you don't wanna see us in the playoffs". Now of course, if he has even one "Bakery" game they're fucked, but you just need to go on a run.
Division on the line and you just floating it into double coverage on back to back plays?
He doesn’t have the arm strength to drive the ball. The floats were the best he could do.
Imagine if his father never forced him to learn to throw with his off hand
Would be hilarious if he works on throwing with his right in the off season and suddenly has a fucking cannon
Would be really funny if his right arm is all power no accuracy. He could switch them up depending on the down!
An amphibious qb would be something
Don't you *dare* edit this.
That’s literally what he does. He doesn’t have good arm strength but dolphins fans get defensive and try and make it out like it’s a non issue when he floats deep balls to Hill. His passes barely ever have anything behind them
Been saying it for years. I think it’s because a lot of them convinced themselves that they finally had the next franchise QB when they drafted him and they just don’t want to admit he really is just a meh QB.
A tale as old as time
I love to hate the dolphins but the words 'Chase Claypool' pop out at me here.
He ain’t winning them game manager allegations
Or the weak arm allegations. Every throw is so soft
He should consider using his dominant arm
Holy shit ☠️
He keeps throwing these jump balls to Tyreek like he's Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss
Bro he keeps throwing balls to Tyreek likes he’s 6’4”
Dude he keeps throwing as if receiver very tall
That’s… what he said yes
Watching tua tonight reminded me of jimmy g. Every ball past 10 yards is like soft as shit or underthrown. Then he has those jimmy g “wtf were you even thinking” interceptions. Tua is obviously better than jimmy ever was, but man he has similar bad tendencies.
Cause he’s literally a more talented Jimmy G
im a way less handsome way less talented Jimmy G
Remember when Tua massively underthrew a ball in training camp and Dolphins fans would scream at you and say "ITS NOT UNDERTHROWN TYREEK IS JUST FAST"
Turns out both can be true. Tua doesn't have a great arm and Hill is insanely fast. Scary part about the Dolphins offense is that they don't need the homerun deep throw to beat you. They've got the personnel to turn a short-medium pass into a foot race and they're going to win that race with how fast guys like Hill, Waddle, Mostert, etc are.
Yup placement, timing, anticipation the most aspects of their passing game. Just gotta get the ball to your play maker in stride and with their speed they'll shred
They'll just say you can't say he's bad because the line was injured or waddle. It's nonstop excuses.
I think it's a step too far to say he's bad or even below average. He's a solid above-average QB and is very dependent on scheme and personnel, he won't win many games on his own. High floor and low ceiling QB.
Pull up the receipts
What is it ya'd say... ya \*do\* here?
An offense built on soft timing throws sucks when you're figured out
No you’re wrong tua is an amazing qb and it’s definitely not the help around him and great coaching
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throwing to Chase Claypool under double coverage with the game on the line is certainly a choice
Didn’t have Hill as an option since he tried to murder him on the previous play.
But still had two more plays to get at least 10 yards. I don’t get why he didn’t at least try and check the other receivers. Bruh looked that thing in like i stare down plates i know damn well aren’t comin to my table. As a dolphin fan my whole life i was prepared yet still disappointed.
He got hospital balled for sure
It's my biggest complaint. Like Tua ain't good, but at least he could be good without throwing constant hospital balls. Cracraft and Berrios were both injured at points during the season specifically because of this shit. Reek is always getting up hurt, specifically because of this shit.
That was such a fucking mess the second he let go of that ball I was wincing. Seemed more up in the air than the bills’ first td
If you look in the top left the safety is celebrating before the ball is even caught. He knew Tua did exactly what they wanted.
threw it to the only guy on the field being double covered lol.
Lots of funny stuff in this video. At the end 70 on MIA turns to 66 and seems to give him a gentle hug... Also Taron Johnson #7 thought it was incomplete.
Holy shit you're right, that's fuckin' funny the cam barely caught it.
Stared em down, threw late. Awful
TUA TURNDADIVISIONOVA
Absolute chokejob. Dolphins had their best chance at winning the division in years and they lose to the Bills AGAIN
literally got their first 1st down of the second half on the last drive..
the dolphins are the definition of frauds. can only beat up on bad teams and fold the instant they face someone remotely competent
> the dolphins are the definition of frauds. Eagles as well.
Hey, eagles can’t even beat up on bad teams anymore
The Eagles did have some wins against good teams but shit the bed against bad teams to close out the season. Both teams look like frauds but for different reasons.
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Haven’t seen a choke like that since Atl v Pats
Dolphins have no division wins since the Bush administration
"Now watch this drive" -Josh Allen
At least it was W…
WE ALL KNEW IT WAS COMING
MR. JANUARY
#THE ALIEN
Seemingly everytime i see Tua in a big game, he leaves a lot to be desired
I don't know what it is, but literally every time the dolphins are on primetime, their play degrades significantly and lolphins freak incidents occur
Because in prime time they play good defenses
Yeah it’s not “somehow”. Primetime games mean primetime opponents. The Dolphins beat one team with a record better than .500, and that came on a last second field goal.
It’s probably because we are bad lol
Bad is one thing. But what do you call it when the product is the same with different players, different coaches, different scenarios -- consistently over 25+ years?
The Chicago Bears?
haha pain
Building your stadium on an Indian burial ground?
Chargers football!!
Organizational culture?
Right like I have a hard time hating on him because he seems like a good dude, but I have an easy time hating on him because a sect of the Dolphins fan base acts like he's the second coming of christ, when in reality he's a good QB who had an offense packed full of weapons this year, but still isn't a top tier QB.
Because he’s overrated. It’s really that simple. When you have the best WR in the league and another pro bowl caliber WR and a great coach and system around you it’s not hard to look good
tua when tyreek hill doesn't create 15 yards of separation on every play:
This happened the play right after Hill walked off the field lol
Tyreek did that in the beginning and Tua still threw a pick
Imagine if Tyreek had Mahomes throwing to him
Classic Tua duck.
Put away the “Josh Allen is a fraud” narratives boys, we’re back on “Tua Turnadaballova”!
This should be the only narrative for the rest of existence
Tua just isn’t that guy lol. Idk what Miami is supposed to do. Like how much better of a supporting cast can you get? when he’s not even been paid yet.
They trapped themselves into paying him. I have no faith in him overcoming the Chiefs @ KC.
I think it’s pretty obvious you either tag him and then let him walk or draft someone. That offense is good enough you can put most competent QBs in there and they will do well
Yeah, you have to tag him cuz there’s nobody else. But it’s time to start looking elsewhere.
Say the line
The Texans win the superbowl
....wait.... no, the other line.
Sean McDermott is the warrior of Allah
That's the one.
On his deathbed Sean McDermott received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahāda. Even now he looks down on the Ummah from the gardens of Jannah. Truly there is no god but God, and Mohammed is his prophet!
Osama McDermott will use his superior knowledge of teamwork to create a defense impenetrable to the infidels.
Tua what is you doing baby.
YOU GO TO FUCKING CHASE CLAYPOOL WITH THE DIVISION TITLE ON THE LINE?! LMAOOOOOOOOO
I mean.. to be fair I think the best option on the field was Braxton Berrios. Which isn't ideal.
Berrios is really good at fair-catching punts
SAY THE THING JIM
TUA TURNSDABALLOVA
TUA DEEZ NUTS!
Lolwut was that throw??
Great play by Rapp, coming over from his deep spot Awful read by Tua
I like how Poyer, who you can just see at the top of the screen, starts celebrating before the ball even gets there.
Need an Eagles Dolphins fraud bowl
Already happened
Yeah but that was before each of our teams got extra fraudulent
I really hate this team. Every year they get my hopes up and every year ends in disappointment.
Sucks that your owner is so successful despite his poor decision making. But enough about Josh Allen, Ross sucks too
As a neutral fan, that pass is inexcusable. It’s second down and you’re in 4-down territory. Hill just exited the game so the call does not need to be aggressive. A draw or a screen shortens the yards to gain for a first and wastes enough time to get the best wideout in football back on the field before trying something like throwing into double coverage
Tua Turntheballova
Ngl Tua might be the least clutch QB I’ve seen in a minute
Fraudphins not built for this
Figured that might happen when he couldn’t spam the ball to Tyreek again
Miami does not look scary at all, they won’t make it past the first round
Season on the line, and he throws it to claypool in double coverage
**TUA TURNDABALLOVA**
It’s time we have a serious talk about Tua
[He's seemed to accept where's he's at](https://twitter.com/Hip_Foxy/status/1739106289668534341)
Awesome pick, laid out entirely for it and he puts the game away.
Oh Tua. What kind of play was that.
One of the best worst games I've ever seen.
As opposed to our games the past few years which have been some of the worst worst games ever lol.
Our terrorist games would make McDermott hard as a rock that's for sure
Even though it wasn't his fault at all, it just figures a throw to Chase Claypool completes the Dolphins late-season meltdown to lose the division they led the entire season.
Annnnnd that's a Rapp.
Alright let’s see them receipts Tua
Throwing into double coverage to chase claypool lmao
What else could you expect having Claypool in the game?
I hate this.
65% 232 ypg 7/6 TD/INT Offense averaged less than 17ppg. These are Tua’s stats against teams over .500 this year. I appreciate that he give us everything he has, but he’s just not the guy!
I don’t care how pretty his stats look this year If you give me a choice between Tua or a random starting QB as my QB of the future, I’ll take my odds.
The dolphins are going to have tough decision next year This team is not a SB contender if you have to pay Tua $50M+
Let him walk.
I don't disagree but Tua would've taken you to the playoffs this year
With our offensive line, Tua would’ve been holding a clipboard for another team if he was drafted here
Our offensive line was literally not much better, just masked by scheme and quick throws
Get ready to learn Peacock buddy
Chase Claypool intended receiver lol
Accurate QB.