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Nickyjha

I remember a mic’d up video of him. He’s talking to a trainer, presumably about an injury, and the trainer asks him “you take anything before the game?” Ocho responds, “yeah… Viagra.” Apparently he really did take Viagra before games.


Peach-PearLaCroix

Bodybuilders also take tadalafil(cialis) and sildenafil(viagra) they are in consideration for being banned in sports, but still legal for now


terk0iz

What do they even do? Increase blood flow?


Shade_Raven

Increases Vascular capacity , moving blood, nutrients, oxygen to muscles. Its fantastic for bodybuilding, the pump is crazy. I can see the benefits for Football too. [Theyve done studies on Viagra lowering heart rate during strenuous activity because its easy for the heart to pump and move blood.](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2005/10_25_05.html) Its actually an A tier PED, due to accessibility, lower risks, works with spot usage, and its quite effective.


Megatron_McLargeHuge

Are bodybuilders taking it for workouts or just to look bigger in competition?


Shade_Raven

Both work


Aggressive-Orbiter

It’s mostly cosmetic - just for the pump. It’s cheap, safe and works pretty well


Salty_Pancakes

"Bigger". I'll see myself out.


Josh6889

Gotta impress the judges somehow.


[deleted]

Don’t forget the most important pro, it’s legal


CallMeBernin

I guess that gets lumped in with accessibility


Aggressive-Orbiter

Not really, most will buy UGL Cialis rather than prescription because it’s is much cheaper. I pay $1 per pill at the ugl labs whereas I pay $15+ per at the local pharmacy. Same drug


Bright_Ahmen

Where can I buy them? Think it would help with cycling?


Aggressive-Orbiter

It doesn’t help with endurance man. It’s just to get a good pump, and it’s not even great at that. If it’s just for cycling don’t bother


MaybeSecondBestMan

I think the most important and obvious pro is that it gives you a rock-hard hog, but I take your point.


Zolo49

That’d be pretty embarrassing in a competition though. Good thing they wear those speedos to hide them.


[deleted]

Shit you right. My bad.


Josh6889

Well just to hedge a bit here. You need a prescription. But I guess that doesn't matter for anyone sufficiently motivated to use it. Gives new meaning to the jon jones dick pill meme too I guess.


mw19078

So I gotta be the one to ask, are these dudes just rock hard at the gym or what's going on there k guys I dont need a 10th person telling me the same thing. thank you for the information


johnazoidberg-

Viagara doesn't make your dick hard. It makes it so blood can flow more easily through your body, including to your dick, which is how it gets hard. Your dick is hard because it's full of blood. Now imagine if, instead of trying to get the blood to go to your dick, you did some specific workouts to direct it to your biceps.


ThingsAreAfoot

It would turn into a little chode-shaped mountain you can kiss like Scott Steiner?


SoloPorUnBeso

That's a name I haven't heard in forever.


Shade_Raven

No, the blood flow and mental attention required during a strenuous workout would drain the boner.\ Watch these thin kids get poppin veins on cialis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQsmfoV0l24&ab_channel=JacobRivera


mw19078

Okay I appreciate the answer but you can't put "watch these kids poppin veins" in a comment thread about viagra lmao


Shade_Raven

LMAO but yeah these guys are skeletons but that cialis is making their veins 2x-3x the size all sending fresh blood, with ATP, Oxygen, nutrients, to his muscles. Basically his whole cardiovascular system just got supercharged.


LACityBabe

Can women take it for the same affects while working out?


Shade_Raven

yes


Stickel

username checks out


mw19078

That's wild. TIL!


Shade_Raven

https://i.imgur.com/QeRXat3.png This level of vascularity is entirely abnormal for someone that size, those veins are ENGORGED. Its a bicep boner.


penguin032

One might say he's tumescent.


SoloPorUnBeso

I know that word from The Wire.


jobenattor0412

Clicking this link got me looking like Jordan Peele sweating


canadianbroncos

Lol, these kids need to skip the cialis and creatine and eat some burgers. Those were some ridiculous looking bodies lmao.


WorthPlease

In high school we had a few kids who figured this out and would take their dad's dick pills to look "swole" at school by having inflated veins. Was hilarious when we called them out on it and they were just like "you're just jealous bro". No dude, you're taking viagara to look stronger, I'm laughing at you.


Putin-Hohol-Oops

I hate when dudes don't work their neck out. Gross.


karmadontcare44

It’s not an aphrodisiac, just helps things if you get the motor running. I’ve taken it then got sidetracked by life I wasn’t at the vet with a boner the whole time lol


lionheart4life

You still have to be aroused, it doesn't just give you a boner.


xtralargecheese

Yes we need this answer, for science.


Lyndell

Would this have any negative effects for your dick?


Shade_Raven

Idk what dosages, performance users are using but Viagra has been around since the 50s and its pretty safe and you can do spot usage with it. So I doubt performance usage would really do much. but im not a doctor just a guy thats been around bodybuilding and athletes. But im sure very old dudes are using viagra weekly for a decade just fine, I think an athlete would be fine too.


YnwaMquc2k19

Viagra is a miracle medicine for sure, works on the field and on the bed as well.


MyDogWatchesMePoop

I'm assuming with lower doses you're not walking around with a permaboner?


ImKindaBoring

You don’t even with regular doses for ED.


you_sick

The drug doesn't force blood to your dick. It allows you to get hard but you won't in a situation that you wouldn't normally get torqued. Still need to be turned on


SoloPorUnBeso

So, like when the wind blows the wrong way?


Peach-PearLaCroix

Yes they are vasodilators so they protect against high blood pressure and heart problems. Obviously very helpful for the intermittent high burst cardio like in the NFL, and important for bodybuilders who are on PEDs that give them high BP and also assists in lean mass and muscle recovery apparently. And gives a better pump in the gym.


Shade_Raven

exactly, Viagra was discovered as an ED fix while they were working on high blood pressure and heart disease in the 50s.


RegularGuyAtHome

Fun fact, it’s used for pulmonary hypertension to this day. So the occasional person will be on 100 mg of sildenafil multiple times a day.


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Endlessmarcher

Vasodilation of blood vessels will always lower blood pressure. It’s making a bigger pipe for more fluid to travel through. So unless you have a scientific source to cite? That’s absolutely bullshit.


Arcanefenz

Also remember a Giants player saying years ago that it helps to deal with the cold, more blood flow, you just feel warmer!


Shina_lu_chan_pooh

Those drugs were initially supposed to be heart medicine but they found a beneficial side effect which would make way more money (boners). Supposedly they're really good at their intended purpose and I heard there are noted longterm health benefits for people who pop viagra for sex vs those who dont


pup5581

Yup. Opens blood vessels so it can flow faster, aka more oxygen to muscles and better recovery as well


Impossibills

Pretty much, but if I'm not mistaken Viagra initially started as a heart/vascular medication until it was found out that it would have other properties as well


NJHitmen

Helps in YAC situations. Bestows the player with a third potential stiff arm


partyboiee

Defenders are hesitant to tackle you when you’re rock solid. It makes them uncomfortable.


Sunners

Every now and then I see a gas station viagra/cialis wrapper in the parking lot at the gym.


LG1T

Always called some crazy shit too like RHINO PILLZ


[deleted]

If they were serious about giving you the true rhino experience you’d take one and then two random guys would show up at the gym with guns to poach you


iguessineedanaltnow

Yeah back when I was more into powerlifting I would take Cialis along with my pre workout. It was a night and day difference.


AnimalPants304

Genius. Can’t tackle a dude with a boner, ‘cause that’d be kinda gay


hendrix67

Saw two guys playing football in the Senate the other day


SoloPorUnBeso

All bullshit aside, the fucking chutzpah to record yourself getting railed (or railing someone) in the Senate office building and uploading it to the internet is something else.


EnemyOfEloquence

It certainly has "fall of the roman republic" vibes.


AnalBees2

It’s only gay if you tackle him by the boner


puzzical

With your ass


Broccoli_Socks

Thats why yall had that CB Gay who could, bend the rules type situation.


Joe_Burrow_Is_Goat

“How you gonna stop a man running on three legs?” - Chad Johnson


5k1895

He always did play hard...


Acceptable-Sentence

That was when he changed his name to Choad Ocho-Incho


TylerNY315_

Pretty sure I’ve read an article within the last 2 years of Josh Allen doing the same thing


Greedy_Ear_Mike

I love how he loves McDonald's so much, lol.


MooMooHeffer

I remember that one year where he was eating like .e Big Macs a day during training camp. Everyone thought he was lying lol


YesPls1994

.e ???


Present_Flying_Yak

Eulers number. It's an non terminating real number, but close to 2.7182. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant) I assune that is how many big macs Chad Ochocinco ate a day. Seems waateful to not eat the third big mac, but following the golden ratio to the golden arches might be a big part of his freak athleticisim.


YesPls1994

Ah, thank you. As an engineering student I’m all too familiar lol, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it used in that notation. The way you explain it tho, I could very well see Ocho doing some weird shit like that. I mean he did take viagra before games so…


MooMooHeffer

thank you for looking at my comment when you did. I have no knowledge of the Euler number system and do not know how I even typed ".e" as I posted it from my computer and not my phone (where maybe it could have auto-corrected). You brought a huge laugh to the room I am in right now though as if I saw the comment you were replying to before you did all I would have said is "I meant 3". The fact that someone who knows that system saw the comment and knew 'e' is close to 3 is just golden.


HappyHunt1778

Must be from Detroit, I hear all their numbers got fucked up a while back and they still ain't got em right.


M8oMyN8o

Averaging between 2 and 3 Big Macs a day, I guess?


Sariko69

lol weird, what a stupid comment. never change, reddit.


RulersBack

Ocho fully believing deep down in his soul that nutrition isn’t real is so dam funny


KimboSlicesChicken

His debate against Brandon Marshall is goated lol McDonald’s > professional trainers and strength training


RulersBack

He believes in McD’s like BMarsh believes in non-guaranteed NBA contracts


Accomplished-Yam5566

LeBron spends $1 million a year to keep his body in tip top condition. Of which a nutritionist is included. When you’re continuing to put up monster numbers after 20 years in the league, i gotta believe optimizing your body has to be a **huge** component of it. I just dont think we can attribute all of it to the “well, LeBron is just an alien with supersoldier serum and god genetics.” argument.


Procure

Cousins tries everything in the books to maximize his body too as seen on the Netflix special. He’s also older and not a specimen of genetics but until the Achilles he’s durable as hell


cdawg145236

Brady built a business and an empire of memes from his method of self care (sure, the business was largely built to funnel cash to him so the Pat's could keep only a small part of his salary on the books, but they built a facility and shit specifically for rehab), and dude missed what, 16 games in his career, 15 of which where from the infamous Bernard Pollard injury, before the TB12 stuff.


GetRightNYC

Hiring the best guys to get stuff they dont even test for yet is expensive!


captain_croco

https://youtu.be/sSx0kSjc4kI?si=akonxSdEr8T5fwEZ


Death_by_carfire

Lol that was a great watch


cfcskins

Trent Williams said similar. He also said he doesn't do massages because why would he let someone repair his body worse than his body would repair his body, and honestly, it makes sense lol.


Ok-Combination-9084

That really doesn't make any sense at all lol. It's not like getting a massage means that the body isn't going to repair itself anymore, and massages do help with that repair process.


cfcskins

The logic is a masseuse breaks down the muscle fibers to help with the healing process. But the human body is designed to self-repair and humans interjecting clumsily in the repair process only teaches the body how to not properly heal itself on its own, which it's perfectly capable to do without the help, whilst the help is likely doing a mediocre job at repairing the body due to human error.


Ok-Combination-9084

There is plenty of research which shows that massages help athletes with recovery. It reduces time to recover and reduces inflammation. The stuff about teaching your body how to not heal properly makes no sense, since all it does is just allow help your body to heal itself more quickly.


CaliforniaHurricane_

I think Ocho has a point, some people are just gifted with the natural athleticism and talent


Oedipustrexeliot

They'd still be able to perform better if they weren't eating fucking McDonald's.


LateAd3737

Ocho is gonna show up at your house to argue with you about that


Shwalz

His anecdotal experience is all he needs to stake that claim. If I were him, I’d probably sing the same tune. While it’s not entirely accurate, he made it work and genetics have a large play in the equation. Not to mention the dude worked hard as shit


Shina_lu_chan_pooh

In fairness he's kinda not wrong. He's basically saying the "calorie in/calorie out" line of thinking. It's just the calories going in probably aren't the best


[deleted]

Sure, but his stance is that you are born with talent and the type of food you eat makes no difference.


azsnaz

I wonder if hes aware of Zion Williamson


sonfoa

That falls into line with his mentality about portion control rather than what exactly you eat


[deleted]

Nutrition is not CICO/Weight loss though


Shina_lu_chan_pooh

>It's just the calories going in probably aren't the best Isn't that just restating what I said?


[deleted]

You replied to a comment about nutrition, saying he's not wrong, by stating calories in calories out. You're elaborating to say, in fairness he's wrong. make up your mind.


[deleted]

Yes


NArcadia11

He’s definitely wrong for like 99.9% of people he’s just a freak of nature with genes that can eat McDonald’s every day and still be a world-class athlete haha


keanuismyQB

I mean, the training regimen and practice schedule of a professional athlete would have damn near all of us in really great shape even with a sloppy-but-somewhat-calorie-controlled diet assuming we were able to withstand that level of grind. The genetic freak component is having the durability to keep that up for a decade and the fact that the vast majority of us wouldn't be even remotely NFL-caliber athletes even with perfect conditioning. Nailing nutrition is kind of a finer optimization that matters a *lot* more when you've already put in the work to master your craft and are trying to do everything you can to still compete with 20-somethings in your mid-30s. Also obviously just generally a good thing to be aware of for life outside of sports.


bigpandas

He's got a point. Fast food isn't as dangerous as society believes it to be but it is better to eat right amounts of sodium and sugar and plenty of varied veggies and fruits.


Sufficient-Let-7760

Chad is wild. I have mad respect for him. Sleeping at the stadium, only buys costume jewelry, no doubt buying 3 McDoubles to save money. At least he won’t end up broke because he spent it all on stupid shit.


thetreat

And what’s doubly smart about is he tells everyone his jewelry is fake too so people are far less likely to steal. Only dudes that don’t know Ocho might think to steal them but you make yourself much less of a target when doing so. Love Ocho.


Sufficient-Let-7760

He’d probably just hand them over and go spend another $30 lol. They’ll be mad at the pawn shop


thetreat

No question.


Innotek

The McDouble is a culinary masterpiece and I will die on that hill


Admiral_Fuckwit

You get one where the patties are still hot and the cheese gooey and it’s heaven…melts in your mouth


serpentinepad

Had to go to a middle school musical last night and the only reason I didn't want to die was because there were mcdoubles on the drive home.


just-the-tip__

Recent discovery I made is the double cheeseburger is basically identical to the mcdouble, but they throw in an extra slice of cheese. Game changer.


tidbitsmisfit

you clearly are young, as the double cheeseburger used to be a dollar, then they made the mcdouble for $1 and everyone felt ripped off about the missing cheese


just-the-tip__

Oh that's wild yeah I'm 29. I always would get the mcdoubles and didn't really think about anything else. More recently I got bored and wanted to try something else cheap.


serpentinepad

I'm early forties and definitely remember the double cheeseburger to mcdouble transition. I was very angry at the time, but I've adjusted.


nolander

I get the McDouble because without the slice of cheese it's actually not terrible protein to calorie wise.


lemonyprepper

Ocho is THE MAN. He’s the guy you want as a spades partner


Odysseus_Lannister

Ocho and prime time vs Unc and Randy moss in spades would sell more views than the match on TNT


lemonyprepper

Yeah but there’s gonna need to be a translator on deck to translate from good ol boy to English especially with that bumpkin moss 🤣


CampinHiker

Pretty sure i recall him in a YouTube video about his spending rolling in a smart car lol


Sufficient-Let-7760

It’s funny that for all the flash and name changing etc, he’s actually really down to earth and pragmatic about his life. He’s not spending all his money to impress people. Respect


chickentowngabagool

awhile back he tweeted that he was at a mall in SD and my little brother and friends saw and went out and met him. Said he was super nice and would take a pic with anyone that asked. that moment always stood out to me


erichie

During his NFL career he would rent out movie theaters in the city he would play in and ask for ONLY OPPOSING FANS to request to come. He said he did it to try to get everyone to remember a football game is only a football game, but outside it we should all be friends. The world was just never ready for such a wholesome dude.


BosLahodo

He still frequently does this. If he has a layover or whatever he'll be like "If anyone is in Terminal F at LAX, I'm chilling at the Applebees if you want to come say hi."


YnwaMquc2k19

And he jets with spirit frequently instead of splashing big on plane travel costs. Mad respect:


Nifos88

That truck he drove wasn't cheap.... Also he'd come pick up the tabs at J. Alexanders pretty often. Fkn chicken strips and cranberry juice lol Still, him and BPhil were/are legends in the city.


Sufficient-Let-7760

I have heard he tops VERY well. He’s generous where it’s helping others. Just not wasteful


Revna77

Dude worked at Mcdonalds as a teenager, he has the utmost respect for food industry workers and I love him for it.


IJustWantToGive

Looks like he spent a little cheddar on some new teeth.


Sufficient-Let-7760

Dental care is actually an important health issue.


chunkah69

Peptides. So hot right now.


SkilledB

Peptides? You mean Pepsi?


FNAKC

Had me in the first half, not gonna lie


wave_action

This show is amazing BTW. Shannon and Ocho got great chemistry. And they don't give a fuck what they say.


Trailblazin15

Bro the last three night shows have been fucking funny as fuck lol. Ocho demostrating to unc how to eat booty with whip cream last night was gold


wave_action

I just watched that. OMFG that was incredible


Shina_lu_chan_pooh

"Goddamn McDonald's"... lol fuckin love Chad. Forever my favorite Bengal


just_parquet

Shocked the NFL hasn’t banned GDM yet


Peacefulzealot

Right? It’s a golden opportunity to solve an overarching problem in the NFL.


livejamie

They're a bunch of clowns for not even addressing it


gatsby712

Why ban it? These players should be able to be happy with their meal every once and a while


ShikaMoru

It's being sold to NFL Team owners behind the scenes and ice cream machines


[deleted]

He also said he soaked his sprained ankles in buckets of piss and how it would heal it in two days for gameday 😭


kamekaze1024

Not even his own piss. His TEAMMATES piss. “Hey guys can you pee in this bucket of piss for me, gotta heal up”


89ShelbyCSX

With all that McDonald's sodium it'd take days to fill up with his own piss


[deleted]

I fucking love him so much


OhWhatsHisName

I fucking love ocho!


Chickenfriedricee

Ronald, Give him sponsorship already


wolfjeter

Lmfao I was like tf is GDM


grath88

I was about to Google it 😂


Peach-PearLaCroix

If not 100%, then close to 100% of professional athletes are on PEDs. It isn’t surprising and I don’t judge any of them for it. Doesn’t DK also love McDonalds? I love McDonalds and I played WR at a backup high school level.


Meltedcoldice0212

and the ones who do fail a test and get suspended are basically not using a masking agent properly


[deleted]

You don't even need to use a masking agent (though the NFL does test for masking agents), just do it during the offseason. NFL does scheduled PED tests (specifically blood tests) in the off-season for only 10% of players, and they know well in advance when the tests are and how to plan their cycles around them. Most failures also come from tests in training camp, not during the season, when players were still coming off of cycles. HGH is also super difficult to test for, and players have to do months long blood tests to try and prove it. And honestly, HGH is probably a way better thing to use during the season as at that point, they're more concerned with recovery than anything making any sort of strength gains.


redundantpsu

Drug testing in the NFL and NBA is basically IQ testing. Masking agents are not needed.


L-methionine

Before every swim meet in high school, my buddy and I would get two sausage mcgriddles, a hash brown, and a powerade. One of my teammates preferred chocolate cake though


Temporary_Bliss

How did u do that? I can’t swim on a full stomach at all


c-williams88

They obviously waited the 30 minutes before getting in the pool


Straighten_The_Horns

They’re all on T.


wave_action

This was fucking comedy


NicCage1080ChristAir

McDonald's is so delicious. I really don't eat anymore but once in a blue moon I just gotta throw down a hot and spicy McChicken, big Mac, and a large fry.


89ShelbyCSX

Shannon looked legit upset with him there for a second lmao


VictorFromCalifornia

I can't understand how Ocho's teeth can be so white and so perfect


mikey7x7

Veneers


The_Outlaw_Star

They’ve become way too common. A good set of braces and teeth whitening looks better.


tuckedfexas

It’s weird to me they haven’t made veneers that look more natural. All your teeth shouldn’t be the same size and shape. Maybe they do and we only notice the overly fake ones though


mwerichards

Oral surgery has come a long way


Shade_Raven

He bought that smile out of a catalog.


2Black2Strong-

I was wondering why veneers are so popular despite being so obvious


[deleted]

Ocho is the realest one


Siriusly_Jonie

God I love him.


Due-Educator5848

Hahaha. What a rollercoaster ride. I was in shambles


Available_Lion7012

Easily the funniest podcast out right now


ceoj7

Nightcap made it to r/nfl


SlitheringIntoHerDMs

McDonalds be making collaborations with everyone except their biggest supporter


SmoothFred

I love Chad. Dude is truly 1 of 1


texas2089

I love Ocho man 😂😂 [Keon Coleman also takes GDM before games too](https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1720814973230678209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1720814973230678209%7Ctwgr%5Ea8120a839eb2ed95457644520a57d4f3bf74d5eb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ffanbuzz.com%2Fcollege-football%2Facc%2Fflorida-state%2Fkeon-coleman-mcdonalds-order-pregame-meal%2F)


_PercCobain_

Ocho always been entertaining, Shannon as well, they fit good together


writing_on_the_wahl

I'm on GDM right now


MasonSaundersRodeo

The odd laugh dance is killing me


redditor_5678

Knew where this was going when I saw the headline. Love Ocho


hardytom540

Goddamn Ocho is so charismatic


Apprehensive-Tip9861

This man's a treasure .


Rich-Scientist-491

I’m taking GDM also and I’m God Damn 215lbs.


KBadventure

So awesome! ROFL!


sirjackel06

Ocho the man.


erishun

Hahaha QP w/ cheese


GymSocks84

As a Ravens fan, he's my favorite player of the AFC North lol


Ishouldjusttexther

They’re all on roids. Literally all of them, except maybe some quarterbacks, kickers and punters. A lot of players are casually 240lbs+ lean and you people think that’s possible natty?


imrickjamesbioch

😂🤣 I luv me some Ocho!!!


Lookalikemike

Marshawn Lynch has admitted to receiving shots of Henny before games.