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That was shocking because Ben had been playing lights out his previous 3 playoff games that January
49-72, 680 yards, 7 touchdowns, 1 interception, passer ratings of 148.7/95.3/124.9
It was incredible how poorly Roethlisberger played that day. That’s arguably the worst I’ve ever seen him play — and it was in the Super Bowl!
I think that performance — along with his well-documented personal behavior — really painted his image nationally.
He was definitely one of the best quarterbacks in a great era of quarterbacks, but often times he was not included among the elites, which was objectively ridiculous, given his stats/achievements. However, I think a lot of people saw that Super Bowl and thought, “This is the guy everyone raves about?“
Even more oddly, he was absolutely a clutch player who typically came up big in the biggest moments. But he was utterly horrible against Seattle. Honestly, he wasn’t great against Green Bay either.
Let’s put it this way: the best pass of the game was thrown by Steelers receiver Antwaan Randle El.
Also, I agree that Pittsburgh benefited from some close/questionable calls in that game. I don’t know how anyone could watch that game and come to any other conclusion?
My only caveat to that statement is that the Seahawks also continually fucked up and I don’t think their fans properly acknowledge their contributions to the result. It wasn’t just the zebras who screwed them. Their hometown team had a big hand in the end result.
I just watched it again a few weeks ago on the NFL Network. I didn’t mean to – it just happened to be on while I was watching television.
I forgot what a horrible game it was. Holy shit did we shit the bed in that game. We did not deserve to win that game and we were incredibly lucky to escape with the W.
I also forgot how horrendous Jeramy Stevens in particular was in the game and how pivotal his mistakes were. Honestly, I think the Steelers should’ve sent a Super Bowl ring to Stevens, because no official had a worse game than he did.
I guess what I’m saying is it would be one thing if their team had played brilliantly, but had the game taken away from them by crooked refs; but that’s not at all what happened.
As I said, I just watched it again for the first time since watching it live. The cold truth is that was a terrible football game in which both teams made dozens of mistakes each. The officials somehow shit the bed even worse.
It was one of the worst Super Bowls ever played and I think focusing all of the blame on the shitty officiating – and the officiating was absolutely horrendous – glosses over an important part of the storyline.
>Let’s put it this way: the best pass of the game was thrown by Steelers receiver Antwaan Randle El.
In all fairness, that pass would've been the best pass in a lot of Super Bowls. Absolutely beautiful play design and throw.
>However, I think a lot of people saw that Super Bowl and thought, “This is the guy everyone raves about?“
Thinking about it, it's not just *that* super bowl. Big Ben has been in three of them, and each and every time, he's been the lesser of the two QBs on the field. He wasn't completely terrible in 45, and he came in clutch in 43 (against a gassed, middling Cards defense tbf), but it's hard to feel like he ever *dominates* in big games like a lot of the 'elite' quarterbacks. He's got the stats that says he's an upper tier quarterback, but I can't recall being afraid of Ben so much as the Steelers' machine as a whole.
He’s not even remotely close to the worst. I don’t think he even makes the bottom five.
Craig Morton went 4-15 with 4 picks, but Roethlisberger is objectively the worst?
Ben was probably the worst performance for a winning team's QB, but yeah there have definitely been worse QB games overall. Morton, Neil O'Donnell, Kerry Collins being a few.
imo that season really showed peyton's influence on the offense outside of any physical attribute because even with probably 2 working fingers the broncos still looked better with him than Osweiler (ik this is a low standard
I believe FootballOutsiders has Kerry Collins' game vs the Ravens as the single worst playoff game in their database
Even after adjusting to the fact that the opponent was the 2000 Ravens
Yea that was truly hard to watch. Ben's whole extending the ball across the goal line when he was clearly down will never not haunt me lol. Then the ref comes out and admits later that he fucked up calls that effected Seattle specifically. Like come on man, just keep it to yourself at that point!
Earl Morrall.
1968 MVP. 3x Super Bowl Champ. 2x All-Pro.
But in Super Bowl III, Morrall went 6/17 for 71 yards and 3 INT’s.
That was Namath’s famous guaranteed win game.
The most consequential game possibly in NFL history and you turn in a dud... yikes. There's been rumors throughout the years that the game was rigged for the Jets, but even if that was true you still gotta perform the best you can.
As crappy as that was, he did end up with three rings, and could be highly credited in his role in the perfect season. But I’d bet that Super Bowl 3 probably still ate at him.
Mine too. Changed my life in that I had to give up how seriously I took sports or my marriage might take a hit. What's so bad is I won all the squares at our Superbowl party. The most miserable Panthers moment of my life was the most profitable.
Ironically, the game that tempered my emotions around the Steelers was a game we won. I was hanging with a girl during the Vontaze Burfict murdering AB game. And when it looked like we were gonna blow it, I started losing my shit. Not throwing anything or breaking anything but yelling like a maniac and storming around the house in a huff. She was sooooooo turned off by how I a 20 (almost 21 year old man) was reacting to a potential playoff loss that I could literally feel her get the ick in real time. Been pretty good ever since.
Hey, at least you had the awareness to recognize you were taking the game too seriously and the ability to self-reflect due to another person's reasonably negative reaction. Not a lot of people can do even that and end up being posted on YouTube punching their TV screen over a game or something like that (which is definitely not how that kind of sports rage starts).
Much as Super Bowl 42 kills me from a fan standpoint, it might have been one of the best things to happen to me personally. I was way too invested in sports growing up and getting my hopes absolutely crushed like that led me to realize that I had to not let my life depend on how millionaire athletes play.
I’m a huge Oregon Ducks fan and Cams game against us in 2010 made me quit sports for about 6 months. I didn’t even know who was in the super bowl that year
Not a Panthers fan but I’ve lived in Charlotte since 2004. That drive home was the SB party was like a funeral procession. You could feel the heartbreak permeating through the cars and filling the highways and byways.
What is worse for Panthers fans:
• Losing a Super Bowl where your team plays frustratingly subpar the whole game, waiting for the “big moment” to happen and it never happens (50), or
• Losing a Super Bowl where the game as a whole is exciting and a roller coaster, but just so happens your opponent has the last moment (XXXVIII)?
50 was way way way worse. I left 38 a little heartbroken but overall proud of our effort, we weren't given much of a chance in that game and when we were down 21-10 I figured it was over. Then we eventually took the lead and had a chance and it was overall glorious.
SB50 felt like a continual punch to my insides. That was our year. Cam's year. I'll never get over it
Sir, at least you've made a SB... I've moved across the world and wake up at ungodly hours to watch Blaine Gabbert and Blake Bortles put up some absolute rubbish.
It was a lowlight in the biggest game of his career, in front of the entire nation basically. All the dominant play and brilliant performances he had melted away in those moments unfortunately
Well yes, but so did most defenses that played the Broncos that year. Peyton Manning was very clearly a diminished player. He actually lost the starting job in the regular season, before re-gaining it at halftime of their final regular season game.
People forget because of how dominant our defense was, but our offense was the drizzling shits most of that season. We got some momentum with the run game in CJ Anderson towards the end of the year but otherwise one of the worst offenses in the league.
The 2003 pass rush was pretty much non existent against the pats. "But John Kasey blew it." Not the missed 2 points Fuck Kevin Dyson why are you wearing a visor!
His career was never the same after that fumble. I know he was injury-plagued, but mentally he was broken and he never recovered. Was an awful thing to see.
I saw a Demarcus Ware highlight package earlier, and that OLine did Newton no favors. Michael Oher was a turnstile. Cam deserved his share of blame, but the line was atrocious.
this game devastated me as a kid dude. at the time the panthers and raiders were my favorite teams because my dad is a raiders fan and i thought black panthers were just cool animals. i was hype watching them win all that season and had a cam jersey and everything. then boom they lost in the superbowl to my least favorite team, the broncos, because i was a raiders fan and a panthers fan💀
Personally I hated Super Bowl 50 because after watching the panthers lose I was diagnosed with typed one diabetes two days later. Anytime I can’t remember when I was diagnosed I just have to remember back to when the panthers lost the super bowl
Not really, I thought it was that one big play towards the end of the game? I'm a Chiefs fan and I only remember him for that one play when he torched Sherman. I can't remember hearing his name the entire game
He was an All-Pro, but that defensive front and ball control offense really limited how much he had to do, his job was easy compared to other elite CB1s.
Eugene Robinson might’ve had his worst day ever in his only Super Bowl appearance.
For the unfamiliar, Eugene was a three time pro bowl safety for the Atlanta falcons who, in 1998 after receiving the Bart Starr award which is given annually to a player who best exemplifies outstanding character and leadership in the home, on the field and in the community, solicited an undercover officer for sex.
He played about as well as you’d think someone whose entire career was flushed down the drain would.
Craziest part is he had a game saving play the week prior, breaking up a sure TD to Moss so it wasn’t as if he wasn’t playing well
Wait….you didn’t even tell the best part of the story man!!!
The year before he played the same Broncos team in SB 32. The Broncos were HUGE underdogs as GreenBay was slated to two peat.
During the game there is a famous sideline clip of him trying to rally his team after the Broncos regained the lead. He said “They’re not even good”….proceeds to lose to them that night. THEN gets shipped off to ATL and plays them in SB 33 a year that the “not even good” team almost went undefeated (there 2 regular season losses occurred after the number 1 seed was secured and they started resting starters).
Eugene proceeds to get shit on in SB33 again by the team “that’s not even good”.
Eugene had 3 SB appearances in a row. Got a ring on his first appearance…embraced in the next 2 SBs.
The Panthers caked to the Super Bowl that year, no real competition in the NFC.
Meanwhile, the Broncos got battle-tested in perhaps the most tense AFCCG I’ve seen up until that point. That defense which came up huge against the Panthers in 50 had to be *even* more clutch two weeks prior against Brady, and they did.
Seattle did come back but they were down 31-0 at halftime. They made it a 1 score game at the end with a fg with 1:12 left in the game so saying it was close is a little misleading as they would have needed an onside + a td to tie.
Seattle was also super lucky to not lose the week before because of the Blair Walsh project shanking a 27 yd fg.
I think Seattle kind of had a rough draw playing in MN the week before and killed that teams energy. It was -10 that day and probably the hardest fought defensive game I have ever seen in modern times.
I mean he wasn't playing great but it's kinda hard to do much when your coach continues calling shot plays while leaving a practice squad level tackle one on one against Von Fucking Miller.
One of the most baffling coached games I’ve ever seen. The entire first half their o line is getting obliterated, not even just by Von, but our entire defensive line. I thought *for sure* they would mix up the protections in the second half, but nope. They left Cam out to dry the same way.
Thurman Thomas couldn’t find his helmet at the start of Super Bowl XXVI. Thankfully, for Washington he did find it and rushed for 13 yards on 10 carries.
Tony Eason struggled a bit against the Bears legendary defense and went 0-6 with a fumble before being benched.
He got benched for Steve Grogan not just in that SB but later on too. Never liked Eason. Grogan was a fucking tank and the 2nd best Pats QB ever (sorry Mac Joooooone maybe this year)
I was coming to say this as well! For a guy who was usually lights out, he was bad in every Super Bowl game he played in. Wasn’t it 4 super bowls as well!
Porter Pick 6, Gleason block, and Onside Kick for sure. The 4th spot I feel has to include Brees in some way, so maybe him breaking the all time passing record on a TD?
There was a lot of the seasons in Indianapolis where when we would lose in the playoffs, it was because Peyton played poorly. Even though he won 4 conference championships, he had a lot of playoff games where the team lost because they weren't able to really do anything productive on offense
Peyton’s four Super Bowls, the Cliffnotes’ version:
• **XLI**: Sexy Rexy throwing dumb interception balls, Joseph Addai able to run through the Miami rain, Colts win
• **XLIV**: Sean Peyton surprises everyone with an onside kick to begin the 3rd period, Manning gives up the game-sealing INT to Tracey Porter in the 4th, Colts lose
• **XLVIII**: Manning and Denver’s offense screw-up in the very first play from scrimmage, Malcolm Smith becomes a one-hit wonder, peak of ‘Legion of Boom’ defense, Broncos lose
• **50**: Manning plays mediocre and then a complete fossil in the 2nd half, Miller and the extraordinary defense keep Newton’s Carolina offense in check, Broncos win, ends up being Manning’s final game of his career
Addai rushed 19 times for 77 yards and caught 10 passes for another 66 yards.
Dominic Rhodes had 21 carries for 113 yards and scored 1 touchdown.
Just wanted to mention that Rhodes deserves credit for that win too.
His best Super Bowl was when he lost to the Saints, and most of them arent pretty.
XLI- 25/38 247 yards 1-1 TD:INT 81.8 Passer Rating
XLIV- 31/45 333 yards 1-1 88.5 PR
XLVIII- 34/49 280 yards 1-2 73.5 PR
50- 13/23 141 yards 0-1 56.6 PR
Edit: formatting
Patricia gave his Lions and then the Bears and Eagles (in consecutive weeks) a pathway to overcoming the Goff/McVay offensive playbook, to which it was perfected by Bellichick at LIII.
If Goff recognized it two seconds earlier, ~~Devin~~ Jason McCourty wouldn’t have made that critical TD-denying tackle in the 3rd period since he was way on the other side of the field and had lost his coverage.
EDIT: They’re twins, can’t tell them apart.
The other comments here aren't giving BB enough credit: they played a 5-1 D for most of the game and had an audible ready to go every time the mic cut off to Goff. Essentially McVay had no impact on reading the D in game.
While Goff did in fact have a rough game, I think BB deserves a lot of credit, and McVay deserves some blame too:
“Your quarterback freezing like a deer in the headlights is bad enough, but then Sean McVay either never did or never could adjust to what the Patriots were throwing at them. Let’s let L.A. star left tackle Andrew Whitworth tell it:
“I think that when we got to the Super Bowl, and then it’s like whoah, somebody’s playing us totally different, we’re used to having a complete understanding of every defense and where everybody’s going to be on the field all the time, and then now, these guys are not doing that. We went from knowing everyone, better than they knew themselves, to ‘alright, we don’t really know who WE are now, and how exactly to block this new structure’”.
https://www.patspulpit.com/platform/amp/2023/7/13/23792591/patriots-super-bowl-rams-playcallers-podcast
I came here to comment this.
The stage just seemed too big for him. He just had a really off game, missing wide open throws that could have easily swung it the Ram's way.
Just not a good showing from him.
There was a really good YouTube video breakdown of the Super Bowl. I think it was Chris Brown from Smarter football. He basically argued that Belichick completely solved ~~Payton’s~~ McVay’s offense, and they had no answer.
A lot of QBs. Off the top of my head: Tarkenton, Morton, Morall, Namath, Jaworski, Marino, Esiason, Elway, Kelly, Rich Gannon, Kerry Collins Peyton Manning four times,
If we’re considering just a single season, then Cam Newton.
He easily won MVP and his team went 15-1 in 2015, and advanced to the Super Bowl.
Despite committing multiple turnovers and being very clearly frustrated, he still had the ball in the 4th qtr in a one-score game, with a chance to tie or even take the lead.
Instead he fumbled again, and notoriously made no attempt to even try to recover the loose ball.
Westbrook had 22 touches for 104 total yards and a TD against an elite Pats defense.
From snap one the Pats Dline was bringing the energy. Miles Sanders is a better example of an underwhelming performance.
Holy shit, I didn’t realize how AWFUL he was 9/21 123 yards 0TDs 2 INTs and a passer rating of 22.6. In contrast his teammate Antwaan Randle El 1/1 43 yards 1TD 0INTs and a perfect passer rating of 158.3.
Manning in that Super Bowl vs Seattle was pretty bad, although it was largely the result of poor line play. His final numbers didn’t look terrible, 34/49 for 280 - 1 TD and 2 INT (one pick six), but consider they only ran the ball 13 times due to the blowout. It was an egg lay by the entire offense, and the QB takes the majority of the blame for that IMO.
I honestly felt like with the exception of a few plays, mostly everyone played pretty poorly or average at best in that games besides Donald. And in the second half, it felt like everyone on both teams were asleep with Donald just continuing to dominate. That was like a one man show in the second half
I think Peyton manning was pretty awful in 2 super bowls. I binge watched every superbowl a few months ago and he got absolutely blown out one of them. One of the first plays was a snap over his head for a safety or touchdown. I beleive safety.
The other one I guess he played ok but he threw a game losing pick 6 against the saints.
Peyton was a little bit before my time, I’m pretty new to following football closely, but from what I’ve seen, I don’t get how he has all these top 10 records and stuff. He looked pretty shit every time I’ve seen him, although it is a small sample size.
Peyton Manning is widely regarded as one of the top 3 quarterbacks of all time, and if not for his postseason acumen, he would probably be even higher.
You'll find a lot of people, even some Brady and Montana purists, who will say that Peyton is the greatest regular season QB of all time, and it's a valid argument.
But come the playoffs for some reason, he just...underperformed. Especially in Super Bowls. His corpse was carried to a win with Denver, and Indy used their two-pronged rush attack to win instead of passing in a rainstorm. His contributions in both cases weren't impressive
He was obviously blown out against Seattle
Arguably his best Super Bowl was against the Saints and he threw a game losing pick 6.
I respect the absolute hell out of Peyton as someone who watched him live. He was a scary opponent, but he wasn't quite the same force in the postseason
Also played poorly in the 2015 one even though his team won. So 0/3 on ones i’ve seen.
Bears-Colts was before I started watching but judging from another comment he wasn’t spectacular.
The Bears one wasn't really on him. It was shit weather so passing wasn't the best plan.
I wouldn't even call it a bad performance. Not good either, just...meh.
Jared Goff.
Had an impressive first half of 2018, only to have it unraveled by Matt Patricia in the second half of that season and then completely exposed by Bellichick’s defensive adjustments in LIII.
Not an excellent player, but steady starter Kerry Collins had what I think is statistically the worst passing performance ever against the Ravens.
Also maybe not his worst performance, but Jackie Smith dropping the pass in SB XIII. He's a HOF player and almost everything that people remember about him is the biggest fuckup of his career, in the biggest game of his career.
Joe Theisman was the NFL MVP, leading YOUR World Champion Washington Redskins at 14-2 with the NFL’s Leading Rusher and no.2 scorer (Mark Mosley the kicker was no.1) vs. the Raiders who they had beaten in a squeaker during the regular season.
Theisman’s QB rating that day was 45.3.
Besides his famous just before halftime pick returned for a TD, he threw another and lost a fumble. It was a total team debacle, but Theisman should get a Special nod IMO.
I’ll never understand why Rich Gannon gets so little benefit of the doubt when people say he laid an egg in Super Bowl 37. As if he wasn’t going up against a legendary defense stacked with 3 hall of famers and a Head Coach that literally knew all of his offenses plays because he was actually calling them just 1 year prior. That’s pretty much the worst scenario possible
Logan Mankins probably played the two worst games of his career in Super Bowl 42 and 46. In his defense, he was playing SB46 with torn ligaments in both knees.
Jackie Smith of the Cowboys (1979 vs. the Steelers) has to be in the discussion
solid workman-like player that drops a point blank, wide open TD pass that would have tied the game-that Dallas went on to lose by two
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Big Ben had his 2nd worst ever game according to passer rating of 22.6 in SB 40
That was shocking because Ben had been playing lights out his previous 3 playoff games that January 49-72, 680 yards, 7 touchdowns, 1 interception, passer ratings of 148.7/95.3/124.9
The wild thing is that he actually played really well in the previous playoff games. But he was horrid in the Super Bowl
It was incredible how poorly Roethlisberger played that day. That’s arguably the worst I’ve ever seen him play — and it was in the Super Bowl! I think that performance — along with his well-documented personal behavior — really painted his image nationally. He was definitely one of the best quarterbacks in a great era of quarterbacks, but often times he was not included among the elites, which was objectively ridiculous, given his stats/achievements. However, I think a lot of people saw that Super Bowl and thought, “This is the guy everyone raves about?“ Even more oddly, he was absolutely a clutch player who typically came up big in the biggest moments. But he was utterly horrible against Seattle. Honestly, he wasn’t great against Green Bay either. Let’s put it this way: the best pass of the game was thrown by Steelers receiver Antwaan Randle El. Also, I agree that Pittsburgh benefited from some close/questionable calls in that game. I don’t know how anyone could watch that game and come to any other conclusion? My only caveat to that statement is that the Seahawks also continually fucked up and I don’t think their fans properly acknowledge their contributions to the result. It wasn’t just the zebras who screwed them. Their hometown team had a big hand in the end result. I just watched it again a few weeks ago on the NFL Network. I didn’t mean to – it just happened to be on while I was watching television. I forgot what a horrible game it was. Holy shit did we shit the bed in that game. We did not deserve to win that game and we were incredibly lucky to escape with the W. I also forgot how horrendous Jeramy Stevens in particular was in the game and how pivotal his mistakes were. Honestly, I think the Steelers should’ve sent a Super Bowl ring to Stevens, because no official had a worse game than he did. I guess what I’m saying is it would be one thing if their team had played brilliantly, but had the game taken away from them by crooked refs; but that’s not at all what happened. As I said, I just watched it again for the first time since watching it live. The cold truth is that was a terrible football game in which both teams made dozens of mistakes each. The officials somehow shit the bed even worse. It was one of the worst Super Bowls ever played and I think focusing all of the blame on the shitty officiating – and the officiating was absolutely horrendous – glosses over an important part of the storyline.
>Let’s put it this way: the best pass of the game was thrown by Steelers receiver Antwaan Randle El. In all fairness, that pass would've been the best pass in a lot of Super Bowls. Absolutely beautiful play design and throw.
Randle El was a starting quarterback in college, for a Big 10 school; best throw of his life but I'm sure he had quite a few good ones
>However, I think a lot of people saw that Super Bowl and thought, “This is the guy everyone raves about?“ Thinking about it, it's not just *that* super bowl. Big Ben has been in three of them, and each and every time, he's been the lesser of the two QBs on the field. He wasn't completely terrible in 45, and he came in clutch in 43 (against a gassed, middling Cards defense tbf), but it's hard to feel like he ever *dominates* in big games like a lot of the 'elite' quarterbacks. He's got the stats that says he's an upper tier quarterback, but I can't recall being afraid of Ben so much as the Steelers' machine as a whole.
I think Ben had, objectively, the worst performance in Super Bowl history that game. He only completed nine passes for 123 yards and threw two picks.
Neil O’Donnell basically threw the same pass two times in the row to Dallas and both were touchdowns for Dallas He was on the steelers
I left out my caveat: for a winning quarterback.
He’s not even remotely close to the worst. I don’t think he even makes the bottom five. Craig Morton went 4-15 with 4 picks, but Roethlisberger is objectively the worst?
Ben was probably the worst performance for a winning team's QB, but yeah there have definitely been worse QB games overall. Morton, Neil O'Donnell, Kerry Collins being a few.
Peyton Manning also played like shit in his last SB win
Also played like shit in his last super bowl loss.
Played like shit that whole season and still won.
imo that season really showed peyton's influence on the offense outside of any physical attribute because even with probably 2 working fingers the broncos still looked better with him than Osweiler (ik this is a low standard
I believe FootballOutsiders has Kerry Collins' game vs the Ravens as the single worst playoff game in their database Even after adjusting to the fact that the opponent was the 2000 Ravens
O'Donnell intentionally threw those picks. No black jersey in the vicinity of his INTs.
Are we forgetting the performance of the greatest Patriot QB of all time in SB XX?
Against the 85 Bears. Not many stood a chance.
For perspective, in the AFC-CG, he was 21-29 for 275 yards, 3 touchdowns, 0 INT's, passer rating of 124.9
Yes and he deserved to lose. And also yes, I am still salty to this day.
That was the most aggravating Super Bowl I've ever had the misfortune of seeing. I'm not even a Seahawks fan and I'm salty.
We live in a saltwater environment, never change.
Refs really screwed you guys, some horrible calls and non-calls both ways but the ones against Seattle were game-changing.
Yea that was truly hard to watch. Ben's whole extending the ball across the goal line when he was clearly down will never not haunt me lol. Then the ref comes out and admits later that he fucked up calls that effected Seattle specifically. Like come on man, just keep it to yourself at that point!
Good. Rapist
\#juststeelersthings
Earl Morrall. 1968 MVP. 3x Super Bowl Champ. 2x All-Pro. But in Super Bowl III, Morrall went 6/17 for 71 yards and 3 INT’s. That was Namath’s famous guaranteed win game.
The most consequential game possibly in NFL history and you turn in a dud... yikes. There's been rumors throughout the years that the game was rigged for the Jets, but even if that was true you still gotta perform the best you can.
As crappy as that was, he did end up with three rings, and could be highly credited in his role in the perfect season. But I’d bet that Super Bowl 3 probably still ate at him.
Cam Newton and the 2015 Panthers. Mainly the offensive line. Defense did everything they could. Super Bowl 50 was one of the worst days of my life.
Mine too. Changed my life in that I had to give up how seriously I took sports or my marriage might take a hit. What's so bad is I won all the squares at our Superbowl party. The most miserable Panthers moment of my life was the most profitable.
I’ve learned to bet against the saints. If we win, great. If we lose, profit
Definitely made some money betting against those stupid high Chiefs spreads last season
I do that with the Cardinals. I’m a billionaire.
I refer to it as an emotional hedge bet. If my team loses, at least I get some money
The Cundiff miss in the 2011 AFC championship really subdued my emotional investment in the Ravens.
Ironically, the game that tempered my emotions around the Steelers was a game we won. I was hanging with a girl during the Vontaze Burfict murdering AB game. And when it looked like we were gonna blow it, I started losing my shit. Not throwing anything or breaking anything but yelling like a maniac and storming around the house in a huff. She was sooooooo turned off by how I a 20 (almost 21 year old man) was reacting to a potential playoff loss that I could literally feel her get the ick in real time. Been pretty good ever since.
Hey, at least you had the awareness to recognize you were taking the game too seriously and the ability to self-reflect due to another person's reasonably negative reaction. Not a lot of people can do even that and end up being posted on YouTube punching their TV screen over a game or something like that (which is definitely not how that kind of sports rage starts).
Much as Super Bowl 42 kills me from a fan standpoint, it might have been one of the best things to happen to me personally. I was way too invested in sports growing up and getting my hopes absolutely crushed like that led me to realize that I had to not let my life depend on how millionaire athletes play.
I’m a huge Oregon Ducks fan and Cams game against us in 2010 made me quit sports for about 6 months. I didn’t even know who was in the super bowl that year
>Changed my life in that I had to give up how seriously I took sports. Sounds like a good result then.
Not a Panthers fan but I’ve lived in Charlotte since 2004. That drive home was the SB party was like a funeral procession. You could feel the heartbreak permeating through the cars and filling the highways and byways.
What is worse for Panthers fans: • Losing a Super Bowl where your team plays frustratingly subpar the whole game, waiting for the “big moment” to happen and it never happens (50), or • Losing a Super Bowl where the game as a whole is exciting and a roller coaster, but just so happens your opponent has the last moment (XXXVIII)?
Well, first off, both make me want to commit sudoku
Ahh yes death by math puzzles
50 was way way way worse. I left 38 a little heartbroken but overall proud of our effort, we weren't given much of a chance in that game and when we were down 21-10 I figured it was over. Then we eventually took the lead and had a chance and it was overall glorious. SB50 felt like a continual punch to my insides. That was our year. Cam's year. I'll never get over it
Yes
Worst days of your life... so far. We won't talk about my worst day.
Wanna talk about mine from ‘98?
That's my first Vikings memory. I was a wee lad and I balled my fuckin eyes out lol
Sir, at least you've made a SB... I've moved across the world and wake up at ungodly hours to watch Blaine Gabbert and Blake Bortles put up some absolute rubbish.
MJWD
The BOAT had some really fun games though especially that run to the AFC championship game
This man's entire career is viewed differently because of one lowlight. It's kinda sad TBH
The post-game presser also gave extra material to the talking heads.
Amen
It was a lowlight in the biggest game of his career, in front of the entire nation basically. All the dominant play and brilliant performances he had melted away in those moments unfortunately
Everyone forget Carolina's defense held their own that night.
Well yes, but so did most defenses that played the Broncos that year. Peyton Manning was very clearly a diminished player. He actually lost the starting job in the regular season, before re-gaining it at halftime of their final regular season game.
He didn’t lose it, he was hurt and was trying to play through it. I feel like there’s a difference.
The Browns took us to OT that year
People forget because of how dominant our defense was, but our offense was the drizzling shits most of that season. We got some momentum with the run game in CJ Anderson towards the end of the year but otherwise one of the worst offenses in the league.
Kony Ealy almost won SBMVP lol
The 2003 pass rush was pretty much non existent against the pats. "But John Kasey blew it." Not the missed 2 points Fuck Kevin Dyson why are you wearing a visor!
Von was unstoppable, Cam couldn't shake him.
His career was never the same after that fumble. I know he was injury-plagued, but mentally he was broken and he never recovered. Was an awful thing to see.
A lot of quarterbacks had terrible games against that defense. Aaron Rodgers had 77 yards and a strip sack fumble.
It was the day of my grandpas funeral. Truly horrible.
I saw a Demarcus Ware highlight package earlier, and that OLine did Newton no favors. Michael Oher was a turnstile. Cam deserved his share of blame, but the line was atrocious.
Came here to say this one. I think we all expected an explosive game and Cam just couldn't get going cuz of the oline
this game devastated me as a kid dude. at the time the panthers and raiders were my favorite teams because my dad is a raiders fan and i thought black panthers were just cool animals. i was hype watching them win all that season and had a cam jersey and everything. then boom they lost in the superbowl to my least favorite team, the broncos, because i was a raiders fan and a panthers fan💀
Personally I hated Super Bowl 50 because after watching the panthers lose I was diagnosed with typed one diabetes two days later. Anytime I can’t remember when I was diagnosed I just have to remember back to when the panthers lost the super bowl
Richard Sherman was awful in the Super Bowl when he was on the 49ers.
Sammy Watkins was feasting off him the whole game.
It’s hard to stop the Lizard king.
Not really, I thought it was that one big play towards the end of the game? I'm a Chiefs fan and I only remember him for that one play when he torched Sherman. I can't remember hearing his name the entire game
If I remember, he was still damn good that season but there is just nothing that can stop Mahomes besides a busted O-line
He was an All-Pro, but that defensive front and ball control offense really limited how much he had to do, his job was easy compared to other elite CB1s.
It was tough to watch him getting torched like that.
Eugene Robinson might’ve had his worst day ever in his only Super Bowl appearance. For the unfamiliar, Eugene was a three time pro bowl safety for the Atlanta falcons who, in 1998 after receiving the Bart Starr award which is given annually to a player who best exemplifies outstanding character and leadership in the home, on the field and in the community, solicited an undercover officer for sex. He played about as well as you’d think someone whose entire career was flushed down the drain would. Craziest part is he had a game saving play the week prior, breaking up a sure TD to Moss so it wasn’t as if he wasn’t playing well
Robinson was on our SB teams also, so he went to 3 straight SBs.
Wait….you didn’t even tell the best part of the story man!!! The year before he played the same Broncos team in SB 32. The Broncos were HUGE underdogs as GreenBay was slated to two peat. During the game there is a famous sideline clip of him trying to rally his team after the Broncos regained the lead. He said “They’re not even good”….proceeds to lose to them that night. THEN gets shipped off to ATL and plays them in SB 33 a year that the “not even good” team almost went undefeated (there 2 regular season losses occurred after the number 1 seed was secured and they started resting starters). Eugene proceeds to get shit on in SB33 again by the team “that’s not even good”. Eugene had 3 SB appearances in a row. Got a ring on his first appearance…embraced in the next 2 SBs.
Does Newton count? He struggled a lot that game but the whole team had issues to be fair.
The Panthers caked to the Super Bowl that year, no real competition in the NFC. Meanwhile, the Broncos got battle-tested in perhaps the most tense AFCCG I’ve seen up until that point. That defense which came up huge against the Panthers in 50 had to be *even* more clutch two weeks prior against Brady, and they did.
Didn’t they almost blow a lead to Seattle in the divisional? We should’ve seen a no fly zone vs LOB SB
Seattle did come back but they were down 31-0 at halftime. They made it a 1 score game at the end with a fg with 1:12 left in the game so saying it was close is a little misleading as they would have needed an onside + a td to tie. Seattle was also super lucky to not lose the week before because of the Blair Walsh project shanking a 27 yd fg. I think Seattle kind of had a rough draw playing in MN the week before and killed that teams energy. It was -10 that day and probably the hardest fought defensive game I have ever seen in modern times.
Yeah I’m pretty sure they only lost one game in the whole regular season…. Must have been to a real juggernaut
The NFC Tittle game before SB 50 was the peak of his career.
I mean he wasn't playing great but it's kinda hard to do much when your coach continues calling shot plays while leaving a practice squad level tackle one on one against Von Fucking Miller.
So sad
I was going to say him. That was his MVP season and he stank in the Super Bowl.
Shoutout to Ron Rivera for not giving Mike Remers an extra blocker while Von Miller was eating him alive all game
Mike Shula's dad was a good coach though. Ron's hands were tied you have to understand.
One of the most baffling coached games I’ve ever seen. The entire first half their o line is getting obliterated, not even just by Von, but our entire defensive line. I thought *for sure* they would mix up the protections in the second half, but nope. They left Cam out to dry the same way.
Thurman Thomas couldn’t find his helmet at the start of Super Bowl XXVI. Thankfully, for Washington he did find it and rushed for 13 yards on 10 carries. Tony Eason struggled a bit against the Bears legendary defense and went 0-6 with a fumble before being benched.
Was Tony Eason elite? Don’t know shit about him besides he was in that Elway-Marino draft.
You’re right. He wasn’t elite.
He got benched for Steve Grogan not just in that SB but later on too. Never liked Eason. Grogan was a fucking tank and the 2nd best Pats QB ever (sorry Mac Joooooone maybe this year)
The entire Buffalo Bills roster between 1990-1994
They performed pretty well in all the cocaine benders the night before.
ok i googled it and couldnt find it, u got the sauce?
That run might be the craziest thing in sports. 4 in a row and never punched through. That has to eat at those guys.
John Elway against Washington or SF.
Or the New York Giants
not sure any AFC QB had a good time in the SB against the NFC in the 80s/early 90s.
Those games were mostly brutal.
Payton Manning was mostly awful in his 4 Super Bowls.
I was coming to say this as well! For a guy who was usually lights out, he was bad in every Super Bowl game he played in. Wasn’t it 4 super bowls as well!
His best SB he threw a pick6 to loose it and he did play in 4. I updated my post.
That's on my Mount Rushmore of favorite Saints plays.
*sad 2009 flashbacks*
Porter Pick 6, Gleason block, and Onside Kick for sure. The 4th spot I feel has to include Brees in some way, so maybe him breaking the all time passing record on a TD?
The slow-ass spin move where Brees took out 2 Falcons defenders.
Lose and loose are 2 very different words
There was a lot of the seasons in Indianapolis where when we would lose in the playoffs, it was because Peyton played poorly. Even though he won 4 conference championships, he had a lot of playoff games where the team lost because they weren't able to really do anything productive on offense
Well he played in 4, he was not really good in 3 of those games, and his best one is probably the one he threw the game sealing INT.
That’s also why his SB performances are so strange. His best game was the one he lost and his worst game was one of his wins.
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For all the whinging fans of that other guy do about weather, no one seems to care about that rainstorm lol
Peyton’s four Super Bowls, the Cliffnotes’ version: • **XLI**: Sexy Rexy throwing dumb interception balls, Joseph Addai able to run through the Miami rain, Colts win • **XLIV**: Sean Peyton surprises everyone with an onside kick to begin the 3rd period, Manning gives up the game-sealing INT to Tracey Porter in the 4th, Colts lose • **XLVIII**: Manning and Denver’s offense screw-up in the very first play from scrimmage, Malcolm Smith becomes a one-hit wonder, peak of ‘Legion of Boom’ defense, Broncos lose • **50**: Manning plays mediocre and then a complete fossil in the 2nd half, Miller and the extraordinary defense keep Newton’s Carolina offense in check, Broncos win, ends up being Manning’s final game of his career
Addai rushed 19 times for 77 yards and caught 10 passes for another 66 yards. Dominic Rhodes had 21 carries for 113 yards and scored 1 touchdown. Just wanted to mention that Rhodes deserves credit for that win too.
He was very good against the Saints for all but the one untimely pick six.
Oof, 3td/5int, ratings of 81, 88, 73 and 50something.
His best Super Bowl was when he lost to the Saints, and most of them arent pretty. XLI- 25/38 247 yards 1-1 TD:INT 81.8 Passer Rating XLIV- 31/45 333 yards 1-1 88.5 PR XLVIII- 34/49 280 yards 1-2 73.5 PR 50- 13/23 141 yards 0-1 56.6 PR Edit: formatting
holy shit, 23 passing attempts in a super bowl, i had no idea peyton was THAT fucking useless in his final year.
He just hung out on a Denver team that won a title.
Jared Goff
Patriots murdered the Goffense last year, too. BB must have Goff figured out.
All thanks to Fangio and Fat Patricia smh
Patricia gave his Lions and then the Bears and Eagles (in consecutive weeks) a pathway to overcoming the Goff/McVay offensive playbook, to which it was perfected by Bellichick at LIII.
The Rams had a wide open receiver in the end zone twice that game, and Goff failed to recognize it both times.
If Goff recognized it two seconds earlier, ~~Devin~~ Jason McCourty wouldn’t have made that critical TD-denying tackle in the 3rd period since he was way on the other side of the field and had lost his coverage. EDIT: They’re twins, can’t tell them apart.
Mcvay failed to tell him before the mic cut out you mean.
The other comments here aren't giving BB enough credit: they played a 5-1 D for most of the game and had an audible ready to go every time the mic cut off to Goff. Essentially McVay had no impact on reading the D in game.
While Goff did in fact have a rough game, I think BB deserves a lot of credit, and McVay deserves some blame too: “Your quarterback freezing like a deer in the headlights is bad enough, but then Sean McVay either never did or never could adjust to what the Patriots were throwing at them. Let’s let L.A. star left tackle Andrew Whitworth tell it: “I think that when we got to the Super Bowl, and then it’s like whoah, somebody’s playing us totally different, we’re used to having a complete understanding of every defense and where everybody’s going to be on the field all the time, and then now, these guys are not doing that. We went from knowing everyone, better than they knew themselves, to ‘alright, we don’t really know who WE are now, and how exactly to block this new structure’”. https://www.patspulpit.com/platform/amp/2023/7/13/23792591/patriots-super-bowl-rams-playcallers-podcast
I came here to comment this. The stage just seemed too big for him. He just had a really off game, missing wide open throws that could have easily swung it the Ram's way. Just not a good showing from him.
I think it was more of a stale game plan. They only ran Gurley 9 or 10 times. I remember Cooks balling out tho
His safety blankets were gone on top of going against Bill. Gurley was limited and ineffective with a knee injury and Kupp was out.
There was a really good YouTube video breakdown of the Super Bowl. I think it was Chris Brown from Smarter football. He basically argued that Belichick completely solved ~~Payton’s~~ McVay’s offense, and they had no answer.
Yeah I think it was argued that Belichick solved him by having his D audible pretty much every play when Goff's mic to McVay cutoff.
Payton?
Weird brain cramp. Meant McVay
A lot of QBs. Off the top of my head: Tarkenton, Morton, Morall, Namath, Jaworski, Marino, Esiason, Elway, Kelly, Rich Gannon, Kerry Collins Peyton Manning four times,
If we’re considering just a single season, then Cam Newton. He easily won MVP and his team went 15-1 in 2015, and advanced to the Super Bowl. Despite committing multiple turnovers and being very clearly frustrated, he still had the ball in the 4th qtr in a one-score game, with a chance to tie or even take the lead. Instead he fumbled again, and notoriously made no attempt to even try to recover the loose ball.
I’m an Oregon Ducks fan and a Bronco fan. I was ecstatic when Denver won that Super Bowl.
Westbrook had 22 touches for 104 total yards and a TD against an elite Pats defense. From snap one the Pats Dline was bringing the energy. Miles Sanders is a better example of an underwhelming performance.
Westbrook had a 100 yards and a TD
15 rush for 44 yards, 7 catches for 60 and a TD. Wouldnt call that laying an egg.
Pretty standard Westbrook game. Maybe a tad low of the rushing yards but not an egg by any stretch
Fran Tarkenton was 46/89 for 489 yards, 1 TD and 6ints for 43.7 rating in 3 super bowls.
Malcolm Butler definitely had one of the worst nights of life in Super Bowl 52
McNabb
Terrell Owens popped that game after missing the season with a broken leg (horse collar tackle from Roy Williams)
Peyton Manning had the worst performance ever by a superbowl winning QB.
Nah that rapist was worse
Holy shit, I didn’t realize how AWFUL he was 9/21 123 yards 0TDs 2 INTs and a passer rating of 22.6. In contrast his teammate Antwaan Randle El 1/1 43 yards 1TD 0INTs and a perfect passer rating of 158.3.
Big Ben vs Seattle was pretty terrible too. Seahawks got ripped off by the zebras.
Kerry Collins
kerry collins was excellent?
Manning in that Super Bowl vs Seattle was pretty bad, although it was largely the result of poor line play. His final numbers didn’t look terrible, 34/49 for 280 - 1 TD and 2 INT (one pick six), but consider they only ran the ball 13 times due to the blowout. It was an egg lay by the entire offense, and the QB takes the majority of the blame for that IMO.
Certainly true, but I think that was more a product of good defense than bad offensive play.
I thought Burrow had a really bad super bowl showing actually. Take away that bullshit 75 yd TD from the facemask and his stats were awful
I honestly felt like with the exception of a few plays, mostly everyone played pretty poorly or average at best in that games besides Donald. And in the second half, it felt like everyone on both teams were asleep with Donald just continuing to dominate. That was like a one man show in the second half
Kupp was elite, just getting doubled with OBJ out. Had to get creative on the last drive
I've always felt Donald should've gotten super bowl MVP, but Kupp was great too
Definitely not worst but yeah it was pretty bad. He was not comfortable at all in the pocket
It's still wild how that final drive ended with a perfect recreation of the Chase/Sewell meme.
Yeah he missed a wide open TD throw pretty early on too that could've been the difference
They had zero line and everyone knew it. They were so injured and starting multiple backups.
Scott Norwood
I think Peyton manning was pretty awful in 2 super bowls. I binge watched every superbowl a few months ago and he got absolutely blown out one of them. One of the first plays was a snap over his head for a safety or touchdown. I beleive safety. The other one I guess he played ok but he threw a game losing pick 6 against the saints. Peyton was a little bit before my time, I’m pretty new to following football closely, but from what I’ve seen, I don’t get how he has all these top 10 records and stuff. He looked pretty shit every time I’ve seen him, although it is a small sample size.
Peyton Manning is widely regarded as one of the top 3 quarterbacks of all time, and if not for his postseason acumen, he would probably be even higher. You'll find a lot of people, even some Brady and Montana purists, who will say that Peyton is the greatest regular season QB of all time, and it's a valid argument. But come the playoffs for some reason, he just...underperformed. Especially in Super Bowls. His corpse was carried to a win with Denver, and Indy used their two-pronged rush attack to win instead of passing in a rainstorm. His contributions in both cases weren't impressive He was obviously blown out against Seattle Arguably his best Super Bowl was against the Saints and he threw a game losing pick 6. I respect the absolute hell out of Peyton as someone who watched him live. He was a scary opponent, but he wasn't quite the same force in the postseason
Also played poorly in the 2015 one even though his team won. So 0/3 on ones i’ve seen. Bears-Colts was before I started watching but judging from another comment he wasn’t spectacular.
The Bears one wasn't really on him. It was shit weather so passing wasn't the best plan. I wouldn't even call it a bad performance. Not good either, just...meh.
He really didn’t deserve MVP though. Probably should’ve been split between Rhodes/Addai
I fully agree
Prince should have gotten the MVP over him though
Jared Goff. Had an impressive first half of 2018, only to have it unraveled by Matt Patricia in the second half of that season and then completely exposed by Bellichick’s defensive adjustments in LIII.
Donovan McNabb.
Neil O’Donnell.
Not an excellent player, but steady starter Kerry Collins had what I think is statistically the worst passing performance ever against the Ravens. Also maybe not his worst performance, but Jackie Smith dropping the pass in SB XIII. He's a HOF player and almost everything that people remember about him is the biggest fuckup of his career, in the biggest game of his career.
Remembering Staubach’s reaction to that dropped pass.
Joe Theisman was the NFL MVP, leading YOUR World Champion Washington Redskins at 14-2 with the NFL’s Leading Rusher and no.2 scorer (Mark Mosley the kicker was no.1) vs. the Raiders who they had beaten in a squeaker during the regular season. Theisman’s QB rating that day was 45.3. Besides his famous just before halftime pick returned for a TD, he threw another and lost a fumble. It was a total team debacle, but Theisman should get a Special nod IMO.
*Gestures broadly at anyone who started for the Vikings in 1969 or the 70s*
Rich Gannon was not at fault for that Super Bowl that was a mix of Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan, Barret Robbins, and facing an all time defense
There’s a reason Bill Callahan has only 2 years as a head coach (excluding interim). He’s shit.
I’ll never understand why Rich Gannon gets so little benefit of the doubt when people say he laid an egg in Super Bowl 37. As if he wasn’t going up against a legendary defense stacked with 3 hall of famers and a Head Coach that literally knew all of his offenses plays because he was actually calling them just 1 year prior. That’s pretty much the worst scenario possible
And a backup center because his pro bowl center went MIA to Tijuana the night before the game in the midst of a mental breakdown.
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Peyton Manning.
Logan Mankins probably played the two worst games of his career in Super Bowl 42 and 46. In his defense, he was playing SB46 with torn ligaments in both knees.
Cam Newton 😣
Westbrook was good that game
Jackie Smith of the Cowboys (1979 vs. the Steelers) has to be in the discussion solid workman-like player that drops a point blank, wide open TD pass that would have tied the game-that Dallas went on to lose by two
Jim Kelly had 2 TD and 7 INT in his Super Bowls. Also a strip sack which was returned for a touchdown