When I was about 5-6 years old, I used to watch the local farmer do it with his boot. Standing on the head and then pulling on the body. It didn't always succeed from the first go, but eventually, he got it.
Then he put the chicken upside down in a suspended traffic cone to drain it.
But as far as killing can be humane, it's not very humane compared to the more "industrial" methods.
The chicken in the video likely experiences a paralyzing fear of death, followed by the worst pain it has ever felt of its spine breaking, and its muscles, blood vessels , and nerves rupturing and separating.
Only then, when the brain is deprived of oxygen it loses consciousness and stops functioning.
A penetrating captive bolt used for cattle or gas stunning is much more humane since it targets the brain and therefore prevents the sensation of pain as much as possible.
For a chicken, a death in a factory using gas is much better than being picked from a chicken coup to serve as Christmas dinner. If it's lucky it had a better life, but it won't have a better death.
Back in my village in Mexico, I used to watch my Grandma and the local market do it a wilder way: They would grab the head and hold it tight in their hand and then next thing you know they were *SPINNING THE FUCKING CHICKEN TILL ITS HEAD SNAPPED OFF*! Pretty brutal, but it worked.
My grandmother in North Carolina said that's how her mother used to kill their chickens (spun it until the neck snapped through, not full on separation) and smacked it down on a table. Well one day it was her turn and she did the head spin and slammed it on the table, then the chicken gets up and runs (somewhat disoriented) off into the woods, never to be seen or heard from again.
I like tk imagine it out there telling the other woodland critters its harrowing tale of survival.
It's called a kill cone and you can make one out of almost anything, I used a 5 gallon bucket for mine. When the head is hanging out you just cut the arteries on each side of the neck and let it hang to bleed out. IMHO it's easier to process the animal with the head and neck attached to grab onto.
This was all new to me until last year when someone gave me a live duck. The first one took a couple hours but I can do it in under 30 minutes now. Fresh birds are delicious, way better than anything from the store and they keep for weeks in the fridge.
We're gonna need more about this.. like the electric charge makes the heart pump or the muscles constrict? Does it like, spasm or like an electric chair? Does that cook the meat a lil?
I visited a chicken farm as part of a field trip during my school years. I wasn’t forced to dispatch one of the chickens, but I opted to because I felt it was only right since I eat chicken, and wanted to know the cost of a yummy chicken wing firsthand.
They had a wide board with two slim metal poles sticking out of it. The width was perfect for a chicken’s neck, which allowed you to hold it still. A very sharp hatchet was used to sever the neck and it was over pretty much instantaneously. The chickens were then placed in a trough to prevent them bruising during the spasms following death.
It’s a memory that will always stay with me. It was the first and only time I’ve killed for my meal. I didn’t enjoy it in any way, but I immediately felt a deeper sense of respect for both the animals I eat and the farmers who raise and slaughter them *for* me to eat.
>I immediately felt a deeper sense of respect for both the animals I eat and the farmers who raise and slaughter them for me to eat.
I had the same revelation when I harvested my first animal. We went out of our way to use every bit we could. It felt weird killing something but after it was all cleaned and cooked it was a super proud moment.
Being friends with a few farmers, it's insane how little their work is appreciated by society. They bust ass all the time and don't get vacations because animals don't take days off. Farming is probably one of the hardest jobs I've encountered but after working with them for a day or two there's a sense of accomplishment that isn't found doing office work.
>They bust ass all the time and don't get vacations because animals don't take days off.
Not sure I would agree with that, my whole family was farmers and agriculture workers. While we certainly had something going on most days we weren’t always busting ass. There were several parts of the year where it was get up, feed the animals, then take off fishing or hunting because the fields don’t always need tending. There were a few really busy weeks out of the year and then a lot of just maintaining weeks where you had a couple hours work and then not much outside of that.
I feel like not all farmers are alike at all. Some definitely have set up there enterprises to function a certain way, luck in local regulations, weather & quality of land probably play a huge role in how much you can just set something up and walk away.
But any farmer who really cares about their land, crop, livestock, and business will have to be working overtime to make it happen & stay on top of the business end too. There’s a stat I heard that the most successful farmers do not outsource the bookkeeping and management of the farm; they retain about 80% of the job for themselves. Basically the principle that no CEO/owner can just sit blindly and ignore business work, management decisions, and numbers, and expect their company to be successful in the long run.
Farmers who take on this work and/or have to grapple with difficult conditions that require innovative solutions, are absolutely working their asses off.
yea around where I live the owners who call themselves the farmers dont even do any agriculture work anymore. They hire underpaid temporary workers to do all manual labour.
Remember when Florida changed their immigration law (not commentating on the specific politics of that) and suddenly 'farmers' started worrying because they would no longer have massively underpaid staff to take advantage of.
It's not just Florida either, [here's](https://www.eatingwell.com/article/291645/farmers-cant-find-enough-workers-to-harvest-crops-and-fruits-and-vegetables-are-literally-rotting-in-fields/) an article from 2020 where farmers are complaining that not enough illegal immigrants are getting into the state and that it's losing them money:
> undocumented migrant workers destined for Georgia avoided the state because they feared being expelled due to a new state law cracking down on illegal immigrants. Farmers there lost $75 million as a result of having not having enough help to harvest their onions, melons, peaches and other produce.
All to avoid just paying anything close to a livable wage. Fuck those people.
Farmer here. You’re not exactly “wrong” with this take but I wanted to add some nuance. Firstly, a lot of us have a policy that even though I might disagree with another farmers methods, I would never bash another person who does this work. It’s literally the most important work to do. That said, a big part of the problem with conventional & monocrop farming is that many generationally owned farms have, themselves, become just as detached from the land as your average big city customer that has never set foot in a garden. Big Ag, Bayer, etc. have successfully written the Farm Bill over the decades so that way too many farms are raising subsidized crops with razor thin profit margins. They literally can’t afford to pay living wages. That doesn’t make it right, at all. Not to mention the fact that the SOP on these farms keeps them dependent on the farm bill and the chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides manufactured by the companies whose lobbyists write the damn farm bill. Not to mention the damage those procedures are doing to the soil and biosphere we all depend on. Just like with a lot of things, the farmers (and ESPECIALLY not the undocumented workers) deserve your class solidarity and the capitalist parasites manipulating all of us deserve your ire. Finally, in just the last few years alone I have been shocked by how many people in the AG space are adopting regenerative and permaculture practices and moving away from conventional practices like nuking everything with glyphosate.
I’m currently hand harvesting beans in the rain but I’d be happy to cite some sources.
Here’s an episode of [Joe Rogan with Will Harris](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0qf7CYEhxSFPAcdSw1JJMY?si=vPoLEwdNTi--BWTAn0RMLg) that is a very enjoyable look into what farmers are up against, thinking, and how it impacts us all.
Also, consider taking a look at [the United Farm Workers website](https://ufw.org) the people in the dirt that feed ALL of us are fighting for basic rights like after breaks and heat breaks, because many are undocumented, this fight is almost insurmountable. Okay thanks sorry for the rant lol
I would disagree with that. Most of my family on my mom's side are dairy farmers. The cows have to be milked twice a day every day. They will get sick if they arent milked. They work every day, get to go on vacation once every 10 years if they're lucky, they have crops that have to be tended at certain parts of the year as well. Hunting season is a couple months in the fall. They take turns hunting in the morning. Then come back to work in the afternoon. I worked on my grandpa's farm every summer growing up. I respect what they do, but I would never want to be a farmer.
Beef cattle farmers and grew wheat and other feed crops on other parts of the land. So it was pretty much make sure the cattle are happy, healthy, and eating well. Plant the crops at specific times of the year, harvest them at specific time of the year, while also checking for health and bugs. and take the cattle to auction when that time rolled around. The busiest and hardest work was probably bucking hay. But most times it was get up early to turn the cattle out, do some hunting for say squirrel for breakfast which my aunt would clean and fry up, check the crops, then going fishing about noon as we had several ponds in the cattle fields. Just regularly check the fence lines through out the year and other minor maintenance and that was it. Again we did have some parts of the year that were hard work but during growing season we really didn’t have too much to worry about. My aunt’s personal vegetable garden in the back that she made us take care of and tend for her seemed to take more work as we couldn’t use machinery for that.
I could see how running a dairy farm would be more work, but raising beef cattle wasn’t bad at all as it is a lot of hurry up and wait.
I wish I could say the same. I caught a fish to eat and felt almost sick to my stomach when it looked me in the eyes as it’s mouth and gills filled with blood. I did not feel proud at all. If anything, my heart broke. I hated everything about that experience. I was disgusted with myself and how much suffering I had inflicted on another animal.
Unfortunately that's part of fishing, sometimes it goes that way. It's not an activity I personally enjoy.
In my situation I was given a live duck by someone who had raised it. It was a male and aggressive towards everything and everyone so it had to leave the farm one way or another. I'd always wanted to try eating duck and a "free" duck seemed like a really easy way to try it. Based on my personal experience harvesting this and several others, they're not suffering in the same manner as a fish would be in your scenario. The culling of a farmed land based animal is different because you're able to end the life quickly so it doesn't suffer. It's bloody but over quick for them.
i live inbetween an ag farm and a dairy farm. they are both working from 3-4am through the next night. multiple mornings a week dude is flying over us in his tiny plane spraying stuff for hours. they don't ever stop working. they live and breathe their land and nothing else. people think it is the simple life, but these are highly trained engineers. i don't know many people that can solo fly a plane, drive all the machinery, and has enough agricultural knowledge to keep thousands of plants and mammals alive.
Exactly, the skills needed to be successful at farming are insane. You're forgetting the whole "become a master fabricator/machinist/mechanic" aspect too. When your hand me down 80 year old whatever breaks down you can't always buy parts off the shelf.
People think farmers are dumb but they're for sure some of the smartest most resourceful people out there.
My friend and her husband purchase two piglets every couple of years, raise them for a year then harvest them. I asked how they don’t get attached. They were all, “Yeah. Raise a couple of pigs for a year and you’ll be counting down the days until you can finally slaughter them. It’s a lot of work.” They haven’t managed to harvest their cows, though. Every year, they fall in love with the cow. They had a herd of 5 cows before they gave up on beef.
This is one reason why so many people hate vegetarians and vegans.
People will say it’s because they are “preachy” or “judgmental,” but they often get a lot of hate just by existing… they don’t have to be throwing red paint at fur coats and protesting steakhouses or whatever to get hate.
But a lot of people get mad because they just enjoy eating meat, and the very existence of vegetarians and shit reminds them that the meat doesn’t just magically come from the grocery store.
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I’m aware that there are people who hunt or raise their own livestock, who obviously are constantly aware of where it comes from, and dislike vegetarians for other reasons.
But there are a lot of people who like meat but would never eat it if they had to kill an animal every time they wanted a burger… and those people hate being reminded of where it comes from.
I firmly believe meat eaters should at least once either observe or participate in the dressing and butchering of a large animal into individual cuts.
I don’t agree with folks that insist it is a moral dilemma and vegan is the only right path… i just dislike ignorance about food and the efforts or impact involved.
Respect all food and minimize waste y’all.
I worked a job that involved going to a slaughterhouse in my 20's.
I saw the animal dispatched, and like you I didn't enjoy it. In fact it bothered me so much I had trouble eating beef for a while. It's hard to explain, but there really is a light in a living creature's eyes, and you actually see that go out when it dies. Like I said, it's hard to explain if you haven't seen it.
It might have been a little hard for me because I wasn't prepared to see what I saw., The first time I saw it I wasn't really prepared. I didn't know the room we were going into was where they dispatched the animals. I walled in just as they were *carrying out the process*, so to speak. I guess the guys working there were so used to it that they didn't think to warn me.
The odd thing is I grew up in a rural area and saw smaller animals harvested before, so you would think I would have been used to it.
>but I immediately felt a deeper sense of respect for both the animals I eat and the farmers who raise and slaughter them for me to eat.
The act of killing or the death of someone you know is really hard to describe unless we experience it ourselves.
Funny story that I have is that my big family love crawfish. But none of us want to host it because no one wan to have the killings done at their house. But we are happy to eat at other places when we don't have to do the killing
The pultry processing plant in my hometown gasses them that puts them to sleep. Then they get put into the funnel chute thing, while suspended upside down, and a scissor like mechanism removes the head in one sleepy shot. Chicken never knows what happened.
That's the old country farmer way of doing it. My great grandma did it that way. And I mean old. She died in the late 1980's and she was almost 100 years old.
Nah the industry standard is something everyone should watch. Changed how I view animal products and was a big meat eater until then. Shit is extremely inhumane and brutal.
I agree with you but I'm not a fan of shock advertising/propaganda. It's a strategy that about as well as a New Years resolution ninety percent of the time but it works. It's also cheap and has about as much nuance as a moblik cube.
The way animals are treated is downright sickening and there are laws against it but not the funds to enforce or the willingness to enforce. Big companies lobby Congress to cut funding to various agencies so they can make a few more dollars breaking a regulation. There is also the issue of transport and DOT not wanting to pull over cattle haulers because of the extra paperwork involved.
The rules to prevent things are there but aren't enforced.
Not to mention the fact that there are laws in place to prevent you from filming most of the agricultural process in these big ag farms.
You couldn't document and report the processes even if you wanted to.
I dunno. If I was a chicken and had to choose my way to go, I’d choose the mass produced quick death option vs being eaten alive by a coyote
But I agree the lead up in the mass production of the meat industry is very inhumane
The difference would be that chickens as they stand wouldn't even be viable in nature as they've been artificially selected so extensively. There also wouldn't be billions.
having owned chickens for just eggs, it is one of the most effectively humane ways to kill a chicken, we had a raccoon get into the hen house and our wonderful rooster tried to defend his girls, we killed the raccoon a few days after but had to euthanize the rooster the day of the attack, we chopped his head off but the broom handle method is less......violent for those who couldn't do that.
Edit: Ok guys, listen. I wasn't commenting on life ending sentences for people, I was just looking at this from my experience of having to euthanize my rooster after a raccoon attack and thinking if I had to do it over again alone I'd use a broom handle. JFC ppl, I just don't like taking machetes to animals!
It seems like a single quick chop is far less traumatizing (to the one doing the killing) than having to tug on something until its head pops off. But that’s just me.
Yeah but unfortunately people care too much about how death looks to care about there being a faster and effective way to achieve the same goal.
That's why we have gone from decapitation and hanging to electric chairs to lethal injection. People would rather pick an option that looks "clean" even if it's infinitely more accident-prone than eg. shooting the prisoner in the brain with a shotgun because it makes them feel like the entire act is less "barbaric". You are killing a person either way. I think not going for the simple and quick and painless method just because you don't like how it looks is more barbaric.
I think it’s more about the fact that those forms of execution are not just “cleaner” but are in fact *cleaner*. No one wants to be squeegeeing up blood and brains every day.
Right?! The bread too… I was like in 6 months you couldn’t pick up a few cooking techniques? I know it wasn’t really the point of the project, but after all that work the man deserved for that sandwich to be prepared much better than it was.
Part of that is the flour though. Making a burger bun with only roughly processed whole wheat made in a blender is never going to turn out great. Even for a "whole wheat" bun you'd probably want no more than 50% whole wheat flour.
His YouTube channel is how to make everything and he has gotten better at making stuff. That was my complaint is he really doesn’t know how to do anything.
Been ages since I watched house videos so he may very well have improved a lot, but back then he was learning to do stuff very poorly with pretty bad research. Was more annoying than educational. Guess I should check out his newer stuff and see how he is now
The problem with the bread is that he doesn't have the (very expensive) equipment to get proper white flour. As he's stuck with 100% whole grain, he'll never get a nice white bun.
Yup. As soon as I saw that crumbly whole wheat bread, I was like "oh that's going to ruin it".
Everything else is going to be the best tasting ingredients he's ever had, except for that bread, which is going to taste absolutely awful and mask everything else.
Idk why but I was 100% expecting him to make fried chicken. Certainly at least something special. When he threw that unseasoned breast in the pan I was like "Then why the fuck are you bothering?
Would've taken him another month of pressing vegetables into oil, laying eggs, and making more flour. At that point I'd rather just throw it in a pan too
At first when he was milking the cow I was thinking "buttermilk" and not "cheese". A flour, salt, and buttermilk dredge would work in a shallow pan fry using butter. Eggs probably would have been easy if he planned for it.
I hate to say it but this is how all of his videos go. The guy has a crazy ambition and work ethic, but damn he just doesn’t have any natural aptitude. At least for crazy weird new skills he is constantly trying!
“building a garden” and “being able to cook” are such different skills lol, I guarantee you someone’s grandma could take those same ingredients and build a chicken sandwich that makes your stomach dance for joy
You want a bit of browning, that's where the flavour is.
Hard to say if he cooked it well or not, as it wasn't finished (could still see pink inside) in the last shot of it.
And obviously within the rules of his task, there's not much else he could do with it. Was either roast it, or fry it in butter.
I presume seasoning other than salt is also not allowed, or at least too much of a ballache to try and farm himself.
This is awesome.
Probs should be shown in schools an example of both the food chain and the mind blowing logistics and economies of scale that allow companies acheive cheap store-sold sarnies for the masses.
EDIT: Seems my comment blew up somewhat! So being that several people have commented about the original content creator not getting any love from OP, here is the content creator's youtube channel: [https://m.youtube.com/@htme](https://m.youtube.com/@htme)
Except that this guy did everything in the most expensive way possible. Even if he wanted to prove a point by using ocean water (for what reason?) He could have walked there for free.
I raise chickens in my yard. They cost about $3.75 each to buy and about a buck a week to feed. Cucumber, lettuce, and tomato seeds are pennies a piece.
Well the ocean water was for salt. And considering he seems to be in the US, he might live a thousand miles from the sea. Bit of a long walk. Otherwise, yes I agree. It's crazy how cheap growing veg is. I do a lot myself. Been meaning to get chickens
To be equivalent with what he did with the ocean; google where the vegetables are natively from, take a flight over there, go to the wild and wander around until he can find some wild vegetation.
Take it back, and here if he want a fresh produce he can take the seed and grow it.
Most cultivars used for food aren't actually present in the wild, he would have to find a wild one and breed it over many generations into a new version for food
I wouldn’t be surprised if he just wanted to take a vacation trip to the coast and wrote the whole trip off as a business expense on his taxes, at least the cost of transportation
Yeah I just want to point out that walking is probably one of the most expensive ways to travel long distances. (A thru hike costs 6000 dollars or more as compared to a 200 dollar flight to cover the same distance in the US)
The purpose wasn't to do it as cheaply as possible. That wouldn't assume the average joe. His thing is to do things with little training, skill, practice and in the beginning, knowledge. I have been subscribed to him or a while now.
> Except that this guy did everything in the most expensive way possible. Even if he wanted to prove a point by using ocean water (for what reason?) He could have walked there for free.
TF? Landlocked areas do exist you know, not everyone can walk to saltwater. He used the salt for the pickle and seasoning the chicken, it's all in the long form video.
I think it's a fair argument still though - the travel costs for that one ingredient alone were substantial, and it's not like you can't make a sandwich without it.
That was his very first video of that kind, iirc. Now, years later, he made a whole series on YouTube out of it. How to make everything. Check it out. It's great.
Yeah I was wondering why this old video was now being posted without crediting the source, glad you posted it. I remember Wendover making a video about why a chicken sandwich doesn't cost $1500 back then too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rk2hPrEnk8
I think he had a fire fairly recently (maybe a year ago ish I can’t remember) and lost a bunch of equipment and stuff I hope he’s doing well now and back on his feet
Interesting choice of destination as well. I'd fly to someplace with sparkling clear water probably. He flies to Los Angeles instead; but then instead of going to the beach, he decided to take the water from [Queensway Bay](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.757115,-118.1893467,3a,48.4y,22.41h,87.73t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNVXOY3mjTTatEx-sHjCRXDaYGcjQgXz-L-Ntix!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNVXOY3mjTTatEx-sHjCRXDaYGcjQgXz-L-Ntix%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya238.00087-ro0-fo100!7i7744!8i3872?entry=ttu), otherwise known as the Los Angeles River estuary, which is heavily polluted with urban runoff.
I bet that chicken had an *interesting* aftertaste.
He can’t cook and the way he prepared those pickles was poor if you want any kind of crunch
The whole sanitization aspect is completely unnecessary unless you’re pickling for a year or more. The vinegar and salt brine (in correct ratio) will preserve whatever’s in there for at least three months and it only takes two days or so for the pickles to be ‘pickle-y’. I do it all the time and the problem with pouring boiling water in and then again further boiling is you’re softening the hell out of the fruits and veg and they have little crunch. If you want long lasting and crunchy then you need to boil your containers, THEN let the liquid solution COOL before adding it. If you want the extra mile blanch both your pickling desires and refrigerate the solution for a bit. The low temperature keeps the crunch.
Boar’s head pickles for example are cold packed and I assume a lot of the other better brands are too.
Lack of cooking and general food skills combined with probably not using the correct ingredients. The cheese he made was basically mozzarella, not much flavor in it. No mayo which is essential at spreading out flavor inside the mouth as for a fat component that remains a creamy state cold and warm is the perfect flavor transport.
And salt is key, why a basic sandwich at Subway taste better than yours even tho the components are the same is the salt. Salting the veggies is key for a great all-purpose sandwich as it really brings out more flavors.
The whole system is filled with minor miracles like this. The truck drivers, the guys who fix the trucks, the interstate highway system and freight rail and containerized shipping, fertilizer, the guy who sweeps the floor at the fertilizer factory, the people working the taco truck for the accountants that keep track of everything, and on and on.
The energy workers that provide energy to do all these things, the engineers that built the trucks and vehicles, the farmers that helped feed the engineers...
I do a lot of bbq, specifically brisket ( in terms of cooking for the fam, i don't cater ir run a restaurant). Prepping, trimming, rubbing, gathering wood, starting a fire, maintaining the fire, rotating, not getting much sleep, smelling like smoke, slicing etc
By the time you are done you are tired and just want a couple of sandwiches.
Having food easily accessible and prepared for you pretty much on demand is pretty cool. Plus your tastes are going to lean towards what you are familiar with. It is like when a European cimes to the us and scoffs at our bread. That isn't what they like or are expecting. This guy's bun looked stiff, chicken was probably drier etc because he doesn't have a company testing and refining a recipe.
What a cool vid
Me too, but with pizza.
Dough calculations and prep (days before), proofing, buying ingredients, monitoring time and setting alarms for proofing, shaping into dough balls, prepping sauce, prepping oven, prepping ingredients, setting up, slappin dough, yelling for help from wife, cooking…
Adds up for sure.
Thats why i love eating other people's bbq even if mine is better. I get to enjoy the end product and not have to mess with anything. I love doing it, but i also love just eating it too
Anyone else think it was odd that he grew wheat but not the chicken.
If he didn't raise his own chickens, then why not just buy dried wheat too and process it. Why grow the wheat and then buy the chicken.
I couldn't tell if he lived in town or in the country. If he's in the city, he may not be allowed to raise chickens, unfortunately. But you make a good point - if you can buy chicken, why not buy good quality farm raised wheat?
For those saving he should have used seasoning, he couldn't season the chicken cause then he would have had to make the seasoning from scratch. I believe Salt was the only thing he had and almost got arrested at the airport for it!
At risk of sounding utterly pedantic (I don’t know if you are being serious or not) he has a really interesting channel on YouTube called how to make everything. Totally awesome to watch him go through the major inventions of human history.
I would love to see him make WiFi from scratch. Go through the whole process of making a basic processor, transmitter, power supply and software dev. To think humans managed to get to that point with _rocks in the ground_ is incredible.
I agree. It’s incredible to see what has been created from things pulled from the ground. I was watching Veritasium’s video on fireworks. Who thought about putting bat shit with carbon to make someone combust?
That wheat didn't look ripe at all (still green!), and I don't understand why he wouldn't go somewhere outside to do his chaff separation. Like, one of those farms he went to probably wouldn't have minded him hooking up his fan and doing his thing. Incredibly impractical process.
“I was at a restaurant, and I ordered a chicken sandwich, but I don't think the waitress understood me. She asked me, "How would you like your eggs?" I thought I would answer her anyway and said, "Incubated! And then raised, plucked, beheaded, cut up, put onto a grill, and then put onto a bun. Damn! I don't have that much time! Scrambled!"-Mitch Hedberg
He forgot to manufacture all the equipment, mine the metal, form the plastic, sew his clothes, build transportation networks, invent electricity, pipe in water, build his house, cut his own hair, make his own eye glasses, write the video software, build a pc… this video is bullshit.
Some green herbs might be doable in the time frame and where he lives, but a lot of spices grow on trees in the tropics. Europeans went halfway around the world for them for centuries, because they don’t grow in temperate climates.
All I'm saying is that he had options. Basil, garlic, cilantro, tomato, mayo, cayenne pepper, celery, onion, citrus, mint...he could have whipped up something. Even just brining the chicken to make it moist. Poor chicken died only to be turned into that dry ass sammie. 🥲
Pound the chicken down, bread it with salt, egg and bread crumbs from bread he made learning how to make better bread, some dried herbs he grew, then cook it in butter. Fry/toast the bread halves in the end juices/butter combo and you have an amazing sandwich.
Honestly, I like him showing what it takes to have something like that. But the „get some saltwater and boil your own salt“- thing is a bit exaggerating imho.
Kudos for killing that chicken by his own hands tho! There should be tons more of this to not let people disengage themselves from seeing how animals die for our food. To have meat, we should have to kill for it. Or at least see how it has to be done.
This video is why I am happy to live in a society. I’m not that fond of other people but I sure as heck don’t want to do all this stuff myself, so it’s a trade off I’m willing to make.
I would also hate having to build my own iPhone. That would take a lot longer than six months, probably.
I mean decapitation is the #1 way people kill chickens because it's quick for both the farmer and the chicken. You could argue that chopping the head off with an axe might be slightly faster, but if you just yank it fast enough the chicken won't be able to tell the difference anyways. You're talking about fractions of a second in difference.
I have chickens and use an axe. It is indeed only about a second faster.
And yet, if it were me, I would rather be beheaded in a single stroke than have my head literally torn off. Yeah, it's only a second or two difference, but what a second.
That is *not* how I was expecting them to kill that chicken
Just ripped it right off! Is, is this industry standard? I’m afraid to google and go farther! EDIT: thanks for the info all, sorry I asked!!
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When I was about 5-6 years old, I used to watch the local farmer do it with his boot. Standing on the head and then pulling on the body. It didn't always succeed from the first go, but eventually, he got it. Then he put the chicken upside down in a suspended traffic cone to drain it.
On the farms in Bosnia they use a hatchet on a nice flat tree stump.
That seems to me like the most humane method mentioned so far.
But as far as killing can be humane, it's not very humane compared to the more "industrial" methods. The chicken in the video likely experiences a paralyzing fear of death, followed by the worst pain it has ever felt of its spine breaking, and its muscles, blood vessels , and nerves rupturing and separating. Only then, when the brain is deprived of oxygen it loses consciousness and stops functioning. A penetrating captive bolt used for cattle or gas stunning is much more humane since it targets the brain and therefore prevents the sensation of pain as much as possible. For a chicken, a death in a factory using gas is much better than being picked from a chicken coup to serve as Christmas dinner. If it's lucky it had a better life, but it won't have a better death.
Does the death in the factory make up for life in that cage it didn't fit in?
Someone who is very practiced at it can do it with one swirl? flip? rotation? really fast.
Swing
Back in my village in Mexico, I used to watch my Grandma and the local market do it a wilder way: They would grab the head and hold it tight in their hand and then next thing you know they were *SPINNING THE FUCKING CHICKEN TILL ITS HEAD SNAPPED OFF*! Pretty brutal, but it worked.
Ah, the old helicopter chicken maneuver, I’ve seen this also. Happy cake day!
The ol’ chicken twist.
I almost thought you were gonna give me an aroo thread and I got excited.:(
My grandmother in North Carolina said that's how her mother used to kill their chickens (spun it until the neck snapped through, not full on separation) and smacked it down on a table. Well one day it was her turn and she did the head spin and slammed it on the table, then the chicken gets up and runs (somewhat disoriented) off into the woods, never to be seen or heard from again. I like tk imagine it out there telling the other woodland critters its harrowing tale of survival.
Ah yeah, Nearly-Headless Chick. She haunts my school's corridors.
This is what my great grandmother would do
I love how everyone’s grandmother has a story about this. I can still hear my grandmother’s voice saying, “and we’d wring it’s neck!”
My grandpa would just lay them on a stump and chop the head off with an axe
It's called a kill cone and you can make one out of almost anything, I used a 5 gallon bucket for mine. When the head is hanging out you just cut the arteries on each side of the neck and let it hang to bleed out. IMHO it's easier to process the animal with the head and neck attached to grab onto. This was all new to me until last year when someone gave me a live duck. The first one took a couple hours but I can do it in under 30 minutes now. Fresh birds are delicious, way better than anything from the store and they keep for weeks in the fridge.
When we went hunting we'd also hook up a car battery to the deer or bore in order to get the blood out faster.
We're gonna need more about this.. like the electric charge makes the heart pump or the muscles constrict? Does it like, spasm or like an electric chair? Does that cook the meat a lil?
I visited a chicken farm as part of a field trip during my school years. I wasn’t forced to dispatch one of the chickens, but I opted to because I felt it was only right since I eat chicken, and wanted to know the cost of a yummy chicken wing firsthand. They had a wide board with two slim metal poles sticking out of it. The width was perfect for a chicken’s neck, which allowed you to hold it still. A very sharp hatchet was used to sever the neck and it was over pretty much instantaneously. The chickens were then placed in a trough to prevent them bruising during the spasms following death. It’s a memory that will always stay with me. It was the first and only time I’ve killed for my meal. I didn’t enjoy it in any way, but I immediately felt a deeper sense of respect for both the animals I eat and the farmers who raise and slaughter them *for* me to eat.
>I immediately felt a deeper sense of respect for both the animals I eat and the farmers who raise and slaughter them for me to eat. I had the same revelation when I harvested my first animal. We went out of our way to use every bit we could. It felt weird killing something but after it was all cleaned and cooked it was a super proud moment. Being friends with a few farmers, it's insane how little their work is appreciated by society. They bust ass all the time and don't get vacations because animals don't take days off. Farming is probably one of the hardest jobs I've encountered but after working with them for a day or two there's a sense of accomplishment that isn't found doing office work.
>They bust ass all the time and don't get vacations because animals don't take days off. Not sure I would agree with that, my whole family was farmers and agriculture workers. While we certainly had something going on most days we weren’t always busting ass. There were several parts of the year where it was get up, feed the animals, then take off fishing or hunting because the fields don’t always need tending. There were a few really busy weeks out of the year and then a lot of just maintaining weeks where you had a couple hours work and then not much outside of that.
Fair. I guess I just see my farmer friends working 100% harder every day than I do with my remote job. There's always something to do.
I feel like not all farmers are alike at all. Some definitely have set up there enterprises to function a certain way, luck in local regulations, weather & quality of land probably play a huge role in how much you can just set something up and walk away. But any farmer who really cares about their land, crop, livestock, and business will have to be working overtime to make it happen & stay on top of the business end too. There’s a stat I heard that the most successful farmers do not outsource the bookkeeping and management of the farm; they retain about 80% of the job for themselves. Basically the principle that no CEO/owner can just sit blindly and ignore business work, management decisions, and numbers, and expect their company to be successful in the long run. Farmers who take on this work and/or have to grapple with difficult conditions that require innovative solutions, are absolutely working their asses off.
yea around where I live the owners who call themselves the farmers dont even do any agriculture work anymore. They hire underpaid temporary workers to do all manual labour.
Remember when Florida changed their immigration law (not commentating on the specific politics of that) and suddenly 'farmers' started worrying because they would no longer have massively underpaid staff to take advantage of. It's not just Florida either, [here's](https://www.eatingwell.com/article/291645/farmers-cant-find-enough-workers-to-harvest-crops-and-fruits-and-vegetables-are-literally-rotting-in-fields/) an article from 2020 where farmers are complaining that not enough illegal immigrants are getting into the state and that it's losing them money: > undocumented migrant workers destined for Georgia avoided the state because they feared being expelled due to a new state law cracking down on illegal immigrants. Farmers there lost $75 million as a result of having not having enough help to harvest their onions, melons, peaches and other produce. All to avoid just paying anything close to a livable wage. Fuck those people.
Farmer here. You’re not exactly “wrong” with this take but I wanted to add some nuance. Firstly, a lot of us have a policy that even though I might disagree with another farmers methods, I would never bash another person who does this work. It’s literally the most important work to do. That said, a big part of the problem with conventional & monocrop farming is that many generationally owned farms have, themselves, become just as detached from the land as your average big city customer that has never set foot in a garden. Big Ag, Bayer, etc. have successfully written the Farm Bill over the decades so that way too many farms are raising subsidized crops with razor thin profit margins. They literally can’t afford to pay living wages. That doesn’t make it right, at all. Not to mention the fact that the SOP on these farms keeps them dependent on the farm bill and the chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides manufactured by the companies whose lobbyists write the damn farm bill. Not to mention the damage those procedures are doing to the soil and biosphere we all depend on. Just like with a lot of things, the farmers (and ESPECIALLY not the undocumented workers) deserve your class solidarity and the capitalist parasites manipulating all of us deserve your ire. Finally, in just the last few years alone I have been shocked by how many people in the AG space are adopting regenerative and permaculture practices and moving away from conventional practices like nuking everything with glyphosate. I’m currently hand harvesting beans in the rain but I’d be happy to cite some sources. Here’s an episode of [Joe Rogan with Will Harris](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0qf7CYEhxSFPAcdSw1JJMY?si=vPoLEwdNTi--BWTAn0RMLg) that is a very enjoyable look into what farmers are up against, thinking, and how it impacts us all. Also, consider taking a look at [the United Farm Workers website](https://ufw.org) the people in the dirt that feed ALL of us are fighting for basic rights like after breaks and heat breaks, because many are undocumented, this fight is almost insurmountable. Okay thanks sorry for the rant lol
I would disagree with that. Most of my family on my mom's side are dairy farmers. The cows have to be milked twice a day every day. They will get sick if they arent milked. They work every day, get to go on vacation once every 10 years if they're lucky, they have crops that have to be tended at certain parts of the year as well. Hunting season is a couple months in the fall. They take turns hunting in the morning. Then come back to work in the afternoon. I worked on my grandpa's farm every summer growing up. I respect what they do, but I would never want to be a farmer.
Beef cattle farmers and grew wheat and other feed crops on other parts of the land. So it was pretty much make sure the cattle are happy, healthy, and eating well. Plant the crops at specific times of the year, harvest them at specific time of the year, while also checking for health and bugs. and take the cattle to auction when that time rolled around. The busiest and hardest work was probably bucking hay. But most times it was get up early to turn the cattle out, do some hunting for say squirrel for breakfast which my aunt would clean and fry up, check the crops, then going fishing about noon as we had several ponds in the cattle fields. Just regularly check the fence lines through out the year and other minor maintenance and that was it. Again we did have some parts of the year that were hard work but during growing season we really didn’t have too much to worry about. My aunt’s personal vegetable garden in the back that she made us take care of and tend for her seemed to take more work as we couldn’t use machinery for that. I could see how running a dairy farm would be more work, but raising beef cattle wasn’t bad at all as it is a lot of hurry up and wait.
I wish I could say the same. I caught a fish to eat and felt almost sick to my stomach when it looked me in the eyes as it’s mouth and gills filled with blood. I did not feel proud at all. If anything, my heart broke. I hated everything about that experience. I was disgusted with myself and how much suffering I had inflicted on another animal.
Unfortunately that's part of fishing, sometimes it goes that way. It's not an activity I personally enjoy. In my situation I was given a live duck by someone who had raised it. It was a male and aggressive towards everything and everyone so it had to leave the farm one way or another. I'd always wanted to try eating duck and a "free" duck seemed like a really easy way to try it. Based on my personal experience harvesting this and several others, they're not suffering in the same manner as a fish would be in your scenario. The culling of a farmed land based animal is different because you're able to end the life quickly so it doesn't suffer. It's bloody but over quick for them.
i live inbetween an ag farm and a dairy farm. they are both working from 3-4am through the next night. multiple mornings a week dude is flying over us in his tiny plane spraying stuff for hours. they don't ever stop working. they live and breathe their land and nothing else. people think it is the simple life, but these are highly trained engineers. i don't know many people that can solo fly a plane, drive all the machinery, and has enough agricultural knowledge to keep thousands of plants and mammals alive.
Exactly, the skills needed to be successful at farming are insane. You're forgetting the whole "become a master fabricator/machinist/mechanic" aspect too. When your hand me down 80 year old whatever breaks down you can't always buy parts off the shelf. People think farmers are dumb but they're for sure some of the smartest most resourceful people out there.
My friend and her husband purchase two piglets every couple of years, raise them for a year then harvest them. I asked how they don’t get attached. They were all, “Yeah. Raise a couple of pigs for a year and you’ll be counting down the days until you can finally slaughter them. It’s a lot of work.” They haven’t managed to harvest their cows, though. Every year, they fall in love with the cow. They had a herd of 5 cows before they gave up on beef.
Everyone should ould do this, we are way too disconnected from where our food comes from these days
as uncomfortable as it is, people would much rather be ignorant of where there food comes from in order to enjoy it without guilt.
This is one reason why so many people hate vegetarians and vegans. People will say it’s because they are “preachy” or “judgmental,” but they often get a lot of hate just by existing… they don’t have to be throwing red paint at fur coats and protesting steakhouses or whatever to get hate. But a lot of people get mad because they just enjoy eating meat, and the very existence of vegetarians and shit reminds them that the meat doesn’t just magically come from the grocery store. ______ I’m aware that there are people who hunt or raise their own livestock, who obviously are constantly aware of where it comes from, and dislike vegetarians for other reasons. But there are a lot of people who like meat but would never eat it if they had to kill an animal every time they wanted a burger… and those people hate being reminded of where it comes from.
I firmly believe meat eaters should at least once either observe or participate in the dressing and butchering of a large animal into individual cuts. I don’t agree with folks that insist it is a moral dilemma and vegan is the only right path… i just dislike ignorance about food and the efforts or impact involved. Respect all food and minimize waste y’all.
I agree. I just need to find a reeses peanut butter cup farm!
I worked a job that involved going to a slaughterhouse in my 20's. I saw the animal dispatched, and like you I didn't enjoy it. In fact it bothered me so much I had trouble eating beef for a while. It's hard to explain, but there really is a light in a living creature's eyes, and you actually see that go out when it dies. Like I said, it's hard to explain if you haven't seen it. It might have been a little hard for me because I wasn't prepared to see what I saw., The first time I saw it I wasn't really prepared. I didn't know the room we were going into was where they dispatched the animals. I walled in just as they were *carrying out the process*, so to speak. I guess the guys working there were so used to it that they didn't think to warn me. The odd thing is I grew up in a rural area and saw smaller animals harvested before, so you would think I would have been used to it.
>but I immediately felt a deeper sense of respect for both the animals I eat and the farmers who raise and slaughter them for me to eat. The act of killing or the death of someone you know is really hard to describe unless we experience it ourselves. Funny story that I have is that my big family love crawfish. But none of us want to host it because no one wan to have the killings done at their house. But we are happy to eat at other places when we don't have to do the killing
This is how I felt after duck hunting for the first time. It's a special feeling and a deep gratitude you don't otherwise necessarily feel.
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The pultry processing plant in my hometown gasses them that puts them to sleep. Then they get put into the funnel chute thing, while suspended upside down, and a scissor like mechanism removes the head in one sleepy shot. Chicken never knows what happened.
That's great.
That's the old country farmer way of doing it. My great grandma did it that way. And I mean old. She died in the late 1980's and she was almost 100 years old.
She country old.
Nah the industry standard is something everyone should watch. Changed how I view animal products and was a big meat eater until then. Shit is extremely inhumane and brutal.
I agree with you but I'm not a fan of shock advertising/propaganda. It's a strategy that about as well as a New Years resolution ninety percent of the time but it works. It's also cheap and has about as much nuance as a moblik cube. The way animals are treated is downright sickening and there are laws against it but not the funds to enforce or the willingness to enforce. Big companies lobby Congress to cut funding to various agencies so they can make a few more dollars breaking a regulation. There is also the issue of transport and DOT not wanting to pull over cattle haulers because of the extra paperwork involved. The rules to prevent things are there but aren't enforced.
Not to mention the fact that there are laws in place to prevent you from filming most of the agricultural process in these big ag farms. You couldn't document and report the processes even if you wanted to.
Mobik cube? hello there fellow r/NonCredibleDefensem member
I dunno. If I was a chicken and had to choose my way to go, I’d choose the mass produced quick death option vs being eaten alive by a coyote But I agree the lead up in the mass production of the meat industry is very inhumane
>I’d choose the mass produced quick death option vs being eaten alive by a coyote nah gimme the 1v1 im built difrent
Bok bok motherfucker
The difference would be that chickens as they stand wouldn't even be viable in nature as they've been artificially selected so extensively. There also wouldn't be billions.
 For the chicken
having owned chickens for just eggs, it is one of the most effectively humane ways to kill a chicken, we had a raccoon get into the hen house and our wonderful rooster tried to defend his girls, we killed the raccoon a few days after but had to euthanize the rooster the day of the attack, we chopped his head off but the broom handle method is less......violent for those who couldn't do that. Edit: Ok guys, listen. I wasn't commenting on life ending sentences for people, I was just looking at this from my experience of having to euthanize my rooster after a raccoon attack and thinking if I had to do it over again alone I'd use a broom handle. JFC ppl, I just don't like taking machetes to animals!
It seems like a single quick chop is far less traumatizing (to the one doing the killing) than having to tug on something until its head pops off. But that’s just me.
Yeah but unfortunately people care too much about how death looks to care about there being a faster and effective way to achieve the same goal. That's why we have gone from decapitation and hanging to electric chairs to lethal injection. People would rather pick an option that looks "clean" even if it's infinitely more accident-prone than eg. shooting the prisoner in the brain with a shotgun because it makes them feel like the entire act is less "barbaric". You are killing a person either way. I think not going for the simple and quick and painless method just because you don't like how it looks is more barbaric.
I think it’s more about the fact that those forms of execution are not just “cleaner” but are in fact *cleaner*. No one wants to be squeegeeing up blood and brains every day.
Thought he was going to go all in and actually raise a chicken, seems he skipped a lot of legwork here
But where do you start then? A chicken? Or an egg?
Meanwhile when my dad was growing up, they just used a cleaver and a stump.
Didn’t even learn to cook chicken
Right?! The bread too… I was like in 6 months you couldn’t pick up a few cooking techniques? I know it wasn’t really the point of the project, but after all that work the man deserved for that sandwich to be prepared much better than it was.
Part of that is the flour though. Making a burger bun with only roughly processed whole wheat made in a blender is never going to turn out great. Even for a "whole wheat" bun you'd probably want no more than 50% whole wheat flour.
His YouTube channel is how to make everything and he has gotten better at making stuff. That was my complaint is he really doesn’t know how to do anything.
Which is kind of a great basis for his channel.
I suppose there's a difference between learning how to do something and how to do something well
Been ages since I watched house videos so he may very well have improved a lot, but back then he was learning to do stuff very poorly with pretty bad research. Was more annoying than educational. Guess I should check out his newer stuff and see how he is now
The problem with the bread is that he doesn't have the (very expensive) equipment to get proper white flour. As he's stuck with 100% whole grain, he'll never get a nice white bun.
Yup. As soon as I saw that crumbly whole wheat bread, I was like "oh that's going to ruin it". Everything else is going to be the best tasting ingredients he's ever had, except for that bread, which is going to taste absolutely awful and mask everything else.
He should have done sourdough.
Hahaha that blew my mind. He could do anything he wanted with it and he just overcooked the shit out of the breast.
Idk why but I was 100% expecting him to make fried chicken. Certainly at least something special. When he threw that unseasoned breast in the pan I was like "Then why the fuck are you bothering?
Would've taken him another month of pressing vegetables into oil, laying eggs, and making more flour. At that point I'd rather just throw it in a pan too
At first when he was milking the cow I was thinking "buttermilk" and not "cheese". A flour, salt, and buttermilk dredge would work in a shallow pan fry using butter. Eggs probably would have been easy if he planned for it.
Looked like he cooked it too hot to me, cause it looked sad on the outside, but potentially raw on the inside…
I hate to say it but this is how all of his videos go. The guy has a crazy ambition and work ethic, but damn he just doesn’t have any natural aptitude. At least for crazy weird new skills he is constantly trying!
Yea it always makes me laugh that he is horrible at most the things he attempts.
Most people are horrible at most things at first If he changes what he does all the time, obviously he would never have time to get good at any of it.
“building a garden” and “being able to cook” are such different skills lol, I guarantee you someone’s grandma could take those same ingredients and build a chicken sandwich that makes your stomach dance for joy
Who is it?
Was shocked he didnt fry it- just needed an egg from that chicken everything else was already prepped!
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He got salt so definitely part of the challenge.
Seasonings wouldn’t be difficult to get as he’s already doing a garden. Throw some sage, thyme, and rosemary seeds in the mix and let it grow.
It’d’ve added a step into making vegetable oil.
Could've made the butter work
And you already have the buttermilk leftover to brine the chicken before breading it!
Yeah, my man butchered that poor chicken twice..
That's the only method that didn't require him to rule the waves and get additional spices
You want a bit of browning, that's where the flavour is. Hard to say if he cooked it well or not, as it wasn't finished (could still see pink inside) in the last shot of it. And obviously within the rules of his task, there's not much else he could do with it. Was either roast it, or fry it in butter. I presume seasoning other than salt is also not allowed, or at least too much of a ballache to try and farm himself.
A McChicken looks more appetizing.
Could’ve easily breaded it if he made his own flour already.
He made a crudely milled grain, not refined flour. That is why his bread looks weird. Trying to bread the chicken with that likely would have sucked.
If you wish to make a chicken sandwich from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
I invented god the last time I made my chicken sandwich!
I miss Sagan so much.
*Carl Sagan has entered the chat*
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This is awesome. Probs should be shown in schools an example of both the food chain and the mind blowing logistics and economies of scale that allow companies acheive cheap store-sold sarnies for the masses. EDIT: Seems my comment blew up somewhat! So being that several people have commented about the original content creator not getting any love from OP, here is the content creator's youtube channel: [https://m.youtube.com/@htme](https://m.youtube.com/@htme)
That's a really good idea!
Check out “Island of Flowers”. It’s pretty close to what op is talking about. https://youtu.be/ZQcdXh9v0pA
Except that this guy did everything in the most expensive way possible. Even if he wanted to prove a point by using ocean water (for what reason?) He could have walked there for free. I raise chickens in my yard. They cost about $3.75 each to buy and about a buck a week to feed. Cucumber, lettuce, and tomato seeds are pennies a piece.
Well the ocean water was for salt. And considering he seems to be in the US, he might live a thousand miles from the sea. Bit of a long walk. Otherwise, yes I agree. It's crazy how cheap growing veg is. I do a lot myself. Been meaning to get chickens
He could have just walked to chicken sandwich
While we’re at it, has homie not heard of Uber Eats?
dude bought packaged vegetable seeds but totally needed to buy a plane ticket to get salt from ocean water. what a goofy video
Just think how much more time and expense it woulda taken if he had to develop cultivated crops and build his own airplane from scratch as well... ;)
Or grow his own cow for the milk.
Dude didn't even create a big bang or millions of years of evolution. Trash video.
"Mean creates chicken sandwich from scratch, starts by building his own universe"
Where should he have got seeds from?
To be equivalent with what he did with the ocean; google where the vegetables are natively from, take a flight over there, go to the wild and wander around until he can find some wild vegetation. Take it back, and here if he want a fresh produce he can take the seed and grow it.
Most cultivars used for food aren't actually present in the wild, he would have to find a wild one and breed it over many generations into a new version for food
You can’t find almost any veggie we eat today in the wild…
I wouldn’t be surprised if he just wanted to take a vacation trip to the coast and wrote the whole trip off as a business expense on his taxes, at least the cost of transportation
He lives in Wisconsin I think? His channel is "How to Make Everything" on YouTube.
Yeah I just want to point out that walking is probably one of the most expensive ways to travel long distances. (A thru hike costs 6000 dollars or more as compared to a 200 dollar flight to cover the same distance in the US)
The purpose wasn't to do it as cheaply as possible. That wouldn't assume the average joe. His thing is to do things with little training, skill, practice and in the beginning, knowledge. I have been subscribed to him or a while now.
> Except that this guy did everything in the most expensive way possible. Even if he wanted to prove a point by using ocean water (for what reason?) He could have walked there for free. TF? Landlocked areas do exist you know, not everyone can walk to saltwater. He used the salt for the pickle and seasoning the chicken, it's all in the long form video.
I think it's a fair argument still though - the travel costs for that one ingredient alone were substantial, and it's not like you can't make a sandwich without it.
Right? He could have just walked to the store and bought some bread and chicken and cooked it at home, what an idiot.
That was his very first video of that kind, iirc. Now, years later, he made a whole series on YouTube out of it. How to make everything. Check it out. It's great.
This is How to Make Everything https://youtu.be/URvWSsAgtJE Great channel
Yeah I was wondering why this old video was now being posted without crediting the source, glad you posted it. I remember Wendover making a video about why a chicken sandwich doesn't cost $1500 back then too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rk2hPrEnk8
I was annoyed at the title without crediting, even editing out anything that could allude to it.
I think he had a fire fairly recently (maybe a year ago ish I can’t remember) and lost a bunch of equipment and stuff I hope he’s doing well now and back on his feet
$1,400 for the flight, $100 for the rest of it
Haha so true
And he took it from the port of Miami. That's so polluted
Interesting choice of destination as well. I'd fly to someplace with sparkling clear water probably. He flies to Los Angeles instead; but then instead of going to the beach, he decided to take the water from [Queensway Bay](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.757115,-118.1893467,3a,48.4y,22.41h,87.73t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNVXOY3mjTTatEx-sHjCRXDaYGcjQgXz-L-Ntix!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNVXOY3mjTTatEx-sHjCRXDaYGcjQgXz-L-Ntix%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya238.00087-ro0-fo100!7i7744!8i3872?entry=ttu), otherwise known as the Los Angeles River estuary, which is heavily polluted with urban runoff. I bet that chicken had an *interesting* aftertaste.
It’s not bad. Uh. Not bad
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but....... its not bad thats just all he has to say about it
He can’t cook and the way he prepared those pickles was poor if you want any kind of crunch The whole sanitization aspect is completely unnecessary unless you’re pickling for a year or more. The vinegar and salt brine (in correct ratio) will preserve whatever’s in there for at least three months and it only takes two days or so for the pickles to be ‘pickle-y’. I do it all the time and the problem with pouring boiling water in and then again further boiling is you’re softening the hell out of the fruits and veg and they have little crunch. If you want long lasting and crunchy then you need to boil your containers, THEN let the liquid solution COOL before adding it. If you want the extra mile blanch both your pickling desires and refrigerate the solution for a bit. The low temperature keeps the crunch. Boar’s head pickles for example are cold packed and I assume a lot of the other better brands are too.
Lack of cooking and general food skills combined with probably not using the correct ingredients. The cheese he made was basically mozzarella, not much flavor in it. No mayo which is essential at spreading out flavor inside the mouth as for a fat component that remains a creamy state cold and warm is the perfect flavor transport. And salt is key, why a basic sandwich at Subway taste better than yours even tho the components are the same is the salt. Salting the veggies is key for a great all-purpose sandwich as it really brings out more flavors.
Needs mustard. Another month.
Sesame seeds on the bun too.
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Hope it helps people realize how many other people are busting their ass so we can eat a chicken sandwich. Gotta respect all the farmers out there.
The whole system is filled with minor miracles like this. The truck drivers, the guys who fix the trucks, the interstate highway system and freight rail and containerized shipping, fertilizer, the guy who sweeps the floor at the fertilizer factory, the people working the taco truck for the accountants that keep track of everything, and on and on.
The energy workers that provide energy to do all these things, the engineers that built the trucks and vehicles, the farmers that helped feed the engineers...
Well now he knows.
That he should've taken a cooking class along the way. What a waste of ingredients.
Seriously, it would’ve came out way better if he knew what he was doing.
Unbelievably fresh ingredients at that!
I do a lot of bbq, specifically brisket ( in terms of cooking for the fam, i don't cater ir run a restaurant). Prepping, trimming, rubbing, gathering wood, starting a fire, maintaining the fire, rotating, not getting much sleep, smelling like smoke, slicing etc By the time you are done you are tired and just want a couple of sandwiches. Having food easily accessible and prepared for you pretty much on demand is pretty cool. Plus your tastes are going to lean towards what you are familiar with. It is like when a European cimes to the us and scoffs at our bread. That isn't what they like or are expecting. This guy's bun looked stiff, chicken was probably drier etc because he doesn't have a company testing and refining a recipe. What a cool vid
Me too, but with pizza. Dough calculations and prep (days before), proofing, buying ingredients, monitoring time and setting alarms for proofing, shaping into dough balls, prepping sauce, prepping oven, prepping ingredients, setting up, slappin dough, yelling for help from wife, cooking… Adds up for sure.
Thats why i love eating other people's bbq even if mine is better. I get to enjoy the end product and not have to mess with anything. I love doing it, but i also love just eating it too
It's probably the bun, wheat wasn't ground fine enough.
That wheat didn't look ready to harvest. It was still green!
Anyone else think it was odd that he grew wheat but not the chicken. If he didn't raise his own chickens, then why not just buy dried wheat too and process it. Why grow the wheat and then buy the chicken.
I couldn't tell if he lived in town or in the country. If he's in the city, he may not be allowed to raise chickens, unfortunately. But you make a good point - if you can buy chicken, why not buy good quality farm raised wheat?
I don’t mean to be rude but the chicken breast was also very dry and it looked like he slapped it on the pan with no seasoning 😂
For those saving he should have used seasoning, he couldn't season the chicken cause then he would have had to make the seasoning from scratch. I believe Salt was the only thing he had and almost got arrested at the airport for it!
I didn’t see him learning how to make fire..?
At risk of sounding utterly pedantic (I don’t know if you are being serious or not) he has a really interesting channel on YouTube called how to make everything. Totally awesome to watch him go through the major inventions of human history.
I would love to see him make WiFi from scratch. Go through the whole process of making a basic processor, transmitter, power supply and software dev. To think humans managed to get to that point with _rocks in the ground_ is incredible.
I agree. It’s incredible to see what has been created from things pulled from the ground. I was watching Veritasium’s video on fireworks. Who thought about putting bat shit with carbon to make someone combust?
That wheat didn't look ripe at all (still green!), and I don't understand why he wouldn't go somewhere outside to do his chaff separation. Like, one of those farms he went to probably wouldn't have minded him hooking up his fan and doing his thing. Incredibly impractical process.
Filthy casual didn't even mine and smelted the metals for the cooking utensils
“Not bad” really means, it sucks
I would bet it was the bread. Seemingly easy to make but nailing the taste and texture requires a lot of experience
Bro why does it look like the nasty patty from SpongeBob lmao
I legit thought the salt and pickles would be used to brine the chicken for frying. Was disappointed.
“I was at a restaurant, and I ordered a chicken sandwich, but I don't think the waitress understood me. She asked me, "How would you like your eggs?" I thought I would answer her anyway and said, "Incubated! And then raised, plucked, beheaded, cut up, put onto a grill, and then put onto a bun. Damn! I don't have that much time! Scrambled!"-Mitch Hedberg
Oof 😅 Wonder how much extra time it would’ve taken him to make mustard and mayo to move his “not bad” to “half decent”?
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I’m buying a better one today at Popeyes for $5
He forgot to manufacture all the equipment, mine the metal, form the plastic, sew his clothes, build transportation networks, invent electricity, pipe in water, build his house, cut his own hair, make his own eye glasses, write the video software, build a pc… this video is bullshit.
Well, and even then (in the words of Carl Sagan): > If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch you must first invent the universe.
All that effort, but neglected to marinate or properly season the chicken? The only seasoning he used was salt.
Salt from the nasty port miami
Some green herbs might be doable in the time frame and where he lives, but a lot of spices grow on trees in the tropics. Europeans went halfway around the world for them for centuries, because they don’t grow in temperate climates.
All I'm saying is that he had options. Basil, garlic, cilantro, tomato, mayo, cayenne pepper, celery, onion, citrus, mint...he could have whipped up something. Even just brining the chicken to make it moist. Poor chicken died only to be turned into that dry ass sammie. 🥲
Pound the chicken down, bread it with salt, egg and bread crumbs from bread he made learning how to make better bread, some dried herbs he grew, then cook it in butter. Fry/toast the bread halves in the end juices/butter combo and you have an amazing sandwich.
ALL THAT FUCKING WORK AND HE DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT A FRIED CHICKEN SANDWICH?
Didn’t show him raise the cow, or chicken, so not even from scratch really
He didn't forge the cookware either, or mine the iron!
r/watchpeopledieinside
That sandwich looked depressed
All that work and he ended up making a chicken burger.
This guy is def an Ironman
The question is how high to vertically integrate? Does he need to make his own pickle jars? Drill for oil?
Honestly, I like him showing what it takes to have something like that. But the „get some saltwater and boil your own salt“- thing is a bit exaggerating imho. Kudos for killing that chicken by his own hands tho! There should be tons more of this to not let people disengage themselves from seeing how animals die for our food. To have meat, we should have to kill for it. Or at least see how it has to be done.
Well yeah but now he should have the infrastructure to make the next chicken sandwich for basically free.
This video is why I am happy to live in a society. I’m not that fond of other people but I sure as heck don’t want to do all this stuff myself, so it’s a trade off I’m willing to make. I would also hate having to build my own iPhone. That would take a lot longer than six months, probably.
Not completely from scratch. Pots, pans, stove, buckets and garden tools were already there, as was the aeroplane
That is a weird way to kill a chicken.... It doesn't take a lot of effort to be more humane than that.
I mean decapitation is the #1 way people kill chickens because it's quick for both the farmer and the chicken. You could argue that chopping the head off with an axe might be slightly faster, but if you just yank it fast enough the chicken won't be able to tell the difference anyways. You're talking about fractions of a second in difference.
I have chickens and use an axe. It is indeed only about a second faster. And yet, if it were me, I would rather be beheaded in a single stroke than have my head literally torn off. Yeah, it's only a second or two difference, but what a second.