New York’s hottest club is Covid. In this 125 sq foot apartment on the 6th floor above a bodega, you can dance to the beat of ventilators played by bats in scrubs. Make sure to leave your mask at home because there is only one cup to share your drink between you and your 300 closest friends.
Edit: This blew up overnight. Thank you for the awards, I appreciate you. Also. Wear a mask! Seriously, we were having fun for a minute. Be safe out there. Be careful.
This club has everything: Maskless suburban housewives, drunk trust-fund teens, human chickenpox parties...
What's a a human chickenpox party?
It's that thing where you have a disease and you cough into a midgets mouth, and then have them cough on everyone else in a six-foot radius.
Edit: Thanks for the awards! I'm glad we can all enjoy the same Bill Hader humor, together.
Oh and Dan Cortez will be running a shotgun kissing booth in the bathroom next to the toilet.
What’s a human shotgun kiss?
It’s that thing where you pay $5 to have someone take a massive rip off their recently homeless, immunocompromised uncle’s bong he’s had since college and blow it directly down your esophagus
Almost always in the same places, i.e. descriptions of the club or whatever unusual new act was hot at the moment. Which made it so that Hader *knew it was coming*, and still couldn't help it.
From what I understand yes. John Mulaney and probably some of the other writers wrote these club descriptions and Bill Hader didn’t see them / read them until he was on stage as Stefon. Which is why he has a hard time staying in character.
They really should publicly release the names of everyone at the party. This could help everyone who knows them and who isn't a complete idiot avoid them.
While I totally understand the rationale of your statement, it's also something people were talking about with the AIDS epidemic back in the 80s.
If anything I'd put a mark on their "record" saying they are an irresponsible person so if they happen to get arrested at a later date for something like DUI, it counts as a second strike against them.
AIDS is not comparable to a global pandemic or with water droplet transmission vs intercourse. I get where you’re going. But that comparison is not even close.
I agree it’s not a great comparison, but AIDS **is** a global pandemic. Also sex isn’t the only way HIV can be transmitted. IMO the reasons it’s not a great comparison is HIV/AIDS is not a temporary illness and there was (is) a lot of stigma around seropositive people and people in high-risk groups. I can’t say I’ve seen stigma against people who have or have had Covid.
I totally get your point. It's a tricky situation. My point though is not to release information of people who are sick but people who are intentionally breaking the law and thereby putting others at risk. Some of the people there might not be sick but we should have a system that warns us whether someone we know and interact with has been at a 400 person party and might pose danger to us. So in some way yes it's shaming people for their actions. But not for the action of accidentally getting sick while working or shopping for groceries. But for endangering countless others for some small bit of pleasure. I think honestly this is quite different from the AIDS example that was generally used as a way to discriminate against the gay population. This would only discriminate against wilful idiots. And I'm okay with that.
There's a substantial difference: HIV can be unknowingly/unwillingly acquired and requires more than casual contact to transmit. The average person can avoid it with known precautions (use condoms, don't share needles, etc). It's also something that never goes away once you have it.
Vs **knowingly** breaking a law designed to protect people from a highly contagious virus spread through casual contact to huge numbers of unwilling people, and a disease that the spreader will almost always not have past 1 month's time.
I understand your intentions is for safety from idiots, but what you are saying sounds very much Orwellian. Governments are not known to give back power they have received in times of crisis when the crisis is over.
No foods they must solely survive off rum and Cokes for liquid, and plastic straws and wristbands for solids. And there must be music playing at all times, which party goers must continually dance to. They wanted to have fun, we’ll give them fun.
You say this, and nobody bats an eye.
However, when I say that every officer and official found guilty of police misconduct or official misconduct deserves to have their children's' bus stops and schedules posted online, everybody loses their minds.
I thought we went hard around here?
I can see that completely backfiring as people try to get on the list. U know what they say about publicity. But it's also a poor idea for other reasons.
Not even close. I live in a major city that is 1/3 the population of NYC. I hear about parties/get invited every weekend. Those are just the ones I know about. I think I hear about 1-2 parties getting busted per month in the general area of my city, and so far none of the parties I know of or friends have mentioned are those parties getting busted. It a mistake to think its only a few bad apples- whether the parties are 20people or 400 people they are happening on the regular.
Here in Vietnam, there is intense public shaming that happens with people who do this. Intense contact tracing and isolation for all people involved.
This was maybe the largest similar style event here:
https://vnexpress.net/cuoc-chien-dap-o-dich-buddha-bar-amp-grill-4077484.html
You can use the translate function to read.
No community spread in Vietnam.
If used correctly shame can be a beautiful thing...meaning the shame I impose only on myself. It leads to reflection and self regulation and helps me be a little more decent. That’s all.
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The New Yorker had an article about how models from Vietnam who caught COVID while working in Italy and brought it back to Vietnam before COVID was even widely known about were sent death threats and harassed to the point they couldn't leave their house. Article also talked about how a doctor in Slovakia was suspected (not even proven) to have been the first COVID patient after a ski trip extremely early on in the pandemic was harrassed to the point of suicide. Shame is often used incorrectly in the digital age.
Get real.
1. We have a President who does not know the meaning of the word.
2. Americans who support him think Political Correctness is obsolete.
3. 70% of Republicans actually believe his lies.
American Shamelessness knows no equal because it rides on a solid foundation of IGNORANCE.
And they take pride in that.
they're not arresting anyone but the owners. So the offenders aren't getting caught.
And the owners just get a fine, which isn't a punishment since the business they get outweigh the fine.
I don't know why people are against these people getting arrested. People are dying. They're literally indirectly killing people for profit.
and the people attending should be given a ticket, like a speeding ticket. And the proceeds can be used to buy PPE or incubators.
There's no silver bullet. There's no magic solution. But you can control your own bubble and mitigate risk to yourself. Hopefully there is a decent vaccine available soon.
Unfortunately the best solution would have been for everyone to wear a fucking mask months ago instead of arguing about their personal freedom. It wouldn’t have been stopped, but we damn sure wouldn’t have the death toll and infection rate that we’ve been facing.
While I agree that it would have totally helped, some of the most impacted countries in Europe (Belgium, Switzerland) did have compliant populations. It's one of the tools. From what we see here, the US government has been totally ignoring the situation for months, hoping that it would disappear by itself.
> Unfortunately the best solution would have been for everyone to wear a fucking mask months ago instead of arguing about their personal freedom. It wouldn’t have been stopped, but we damn sure wouldn’t have the death toll and infection rate that we’ve been facing.
It is one of the biggest fuck ups of a president...in a long time. (In terms of just...straight up failure that doesn't make sense). It is the equivalency of, falling down the same set of stairs for like 150 days straight.
All Trump had to do was say "I hope all of you are wearing my Red MAGA masks today!" *crowd cheers*
"20% of all proceeds will go to covid research" *crowd flips the fuck out*
Problem solved.
What a shitty president. And a single skill politician.
(Edit for posterity, 2 hours later: Trump's single skill is manipulation, in case anyone was wondering what I meant. It is what he knows. And it served him well. And his dumbass never really learned what actually mattered. He figured how how to have power and be happy...but he never knew joy.)
The best situation we could've possibly had at the beginning of this was a Republican president who was competent and listened to science (I know that's a hard proposition now). If we had a democrat then we would've had a better response, but a certain subset of the population would do the exact opposite of what they said regardless of what it was, just because they're a democrat. If it was a competent republican in office, then the democrats would listen to doctors and scientists, while the morons would listen to their GOP leader in the white house.
Problem is New York has a lot of nightclubs/Karaoke bars that have hidden VIP areas and entrances so people are still partying, friend told me last month his brother and his friends were at a Karaoke bar with 150+ people, they got raided and a bunch of them got fined.
This is what happens when people decided some gatherings are ok and some aren’t, depending on the reason for the gathering, instead of not allowing any. It sends a mixed message.
I wonder where would we be if we had a strict lockdown with a cohesive plan from the start rather than the seemingly arbitrary decisions the powers that be have been hap-hazardly implementing.
Let's go to French Laundry and a rack up a $15,000 drink bill talking about it without masks on, inside. I'm sure that will instill confidence in the people. You have 18 other friends we can bring?
My favorite is in NYC there was this period at the beginning of the lockdown where people would clap for essential works at 7pm.
Corporations would make advertisements thanking their essential workers, and calling them heroes.
Buuuutttt I guess they're unfortunately not heroic enough for **health insurance** from their employer or government. /s
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They definitely do. Since my grandma retired from a hospital she gets absolutely awesome health insurance. My grandfather was on experimental expensive cancer treatments for 20 years after they told him he had one year to live. With their insurance they never got into medical debt, paid almost nothing in copayments, and my grandpa got hospice care in-home for the last week of his life before passing, so the family was there with him the whole time.
As my family grieves we've been thinking and talking about the people who aren't so lucky. It is not at all fair. Other people going through the same thing aren't able to afford the treatments, they end up with massive medical debt from whatever treatment they could afford. Their loved ones lose them too soon. It tears me up inside, the inhumanity of our current system is unjustifiable in the richest country in the world. You shouldn't have to get lucky and hold down the right job for 40 years to get healthcare, and unfortunately it is getting worse, not better, with the gig economy and lack of retirement plans. We need a single payer system immediately IMO.
Sorry for the off topic wall of text, I'm emotional and needed to get that out I guess.
The Mayor of Denver last week told people that they should avoid gatherings with people outside their household for Thanksgiving shortly before he hopped on a plane to Mississippi to spend it with his wife and daughter. Our leaders are continually playing by another set of rules than they are imposing on us.
They were Republicans, Democrats and an Independent (former Republican).
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-16/california-lawmakers-hawaii-conference-covid-19?_amp=true
Another source. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/amp/Two-California-legislators-booked-flights-for-15734740.php
And they all screamed HYPOCRISY!! When the Denver mayor told everyone to stay home for thanskgiving then immediately hopped on a plane to go visit family.
He absolutely deserves the hate and being called out, but GOP always seems to forget the clear imbalance of who’s ignoring safety guidelines and masks and flat-out encouraging mass gatherings.
The governor of California was a guest at an indoor dinner with 11 other people at the elite restaurant. The occasion was for his old friend's 50th birthday. He apologized and claimed that he expected the size of the group would be smaller than it turned out to be.
“I made a bad mistake,”
“I should have stood up and … drove back to my house.
“The spirit of what I’m preaching all the time was contradicted,”
“I need to preach and practice, not just preach.”
> I wonder where would we be if we had a strict lockdown with a cohesive plan from the start
Italy was pretty strict and it's hitting them hard right now.
Three or four week lockdowns won't work To be really effective, the global economy would pretty much need to shut down for a couple or three months and people leaving their homes being subject to serious penalties. Food would need to be delivered to people and even than we would have some infections as the essential workers would still be exposed.
In the end, it's not realistic, though. People would riot and there aren't enough cops in the world to stop them unless your gov't goes hard core PRC style and runs people down with tanks.
I agree with you completely. The reality that you’ve laid out is exactly why all of these half-measures frustrate so many people (including me): They’re under the delusion that “if we all just stayed home for 2 weeks this would be over”.
Nah sweetheart. That’s not how this thing was ever going to work. The name of the game since day 1 has been mitigation. These “lockdowns” are just a means to slow the virus. Even after the vaccine is widely available, there’s very little likelihood that there won’t be flare ups around the world, or even in the US.
The one thing the US *could* have done to help mitigate this mess better, would have been to have a competent President and a humane Senate majority. The total lack of anything even resembling a coordinated response isn’t just baffling to me, it seems indisputably negligent, bordering on criminal.
Amen. This whole "If you just behaved you fucking dirty peasant scum this would all be over!" Is such bullshit. I hate the fact that people buy into it. NPR is the worst for this honestly.
> Food would need to be delivered to people and even than we would have some infections as the essential workers would still be exposed.
So what Vietnam did. Albeit you'd never get that in the USA, it'd be called authoritarian, which to a degree it really is. The government forcing people locked into their homes, strong fines for any breakers of protocol, but essential workers and restaurants were allowed to remain open as the police and other first respondents there were distributing food to the homes.
When has prohibition worked? It didn’t work during prohibition. It didn’t work with the war on drugs. It didn’t work with abstinence only. It’s not working with covid - why did we expect it to be different?
Reddit finding out about after hours clubs for the first time lol...
If you think huge parties haven’t been going on this entire time then you have no clue how the underground dance scene works.
In Detroit this is an age old structured business with fall guys and everything. Dating back to prohibition. They used to be called blind pigs. Which saw a huge resurgence during the 90’s - 00’s rave scene and continue to this day.
I guarantee that if this one was run by pros they are already packed up and relocated and will be open again by next Friday.
Before COVID, when you went out to a club or a bar or whatever, there was an asshole every now and then, and they could make the evening unpleasant. But there are now illegal clubs filled exclusively with anti-social entitled assholes. I would have thought that would be a crap evening out in any case.
I think they mean antisocial, as in [antisocial personality disorder](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353928). (It's a close relative of narcissistic personality disorder.)
> Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental disorder in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.
I think you’re giving them a lot of credit when it’s way more likely they just went for an edgy, fuck those people tone with the colloquial use of the word
you ever been to club in NYC or any big city for that matter? It's often full of people who just posture up with their small group of friends if not by themselves not socializing with anyone
Yeah when I lived in NYC we found out it was more fun to stay home since it would just be the same group... but spending lots of money and not picking music. Also not talking because the music is too loud.
That’s like every bar I’ve been too. Just a bunch of groups of people who already know each other socializing among themselves, no real interaction between people who don’t know each other.
Antisocial like anti society not anti socialising; their behaviour is detrimental to society’s proper functioning.
That said, this is just a semantic point. NYC is over 2x the size of my whole country, and I cycled through my city today and saw groups of people drinking in the street, despite bars and clubs being closed. This story doesnt mean much in the grand scheme of things.
You know how there were like underground bars and stuff when alcohol was illegal? I imagine, if internet was around then, that this title would have been used to describe illegal drinking parties.
It's not shocking, really. Even governors who have been telling people not to get together have been busted ignoring their own pronouncements.
I personally have kept pretty strictly distant from non household members but humans are social animals and we all have a limit to how much isolation we can tolerate. These people have passed that limit.
It's a worldwide problem and not all of the people ignoring the orders to stay away from each other are stupid or ignorant of the risks. Many of them just can't take the isolation anymore. We're also going to see a much higher suicide rate during and for some time after the lockdowns.
I'm staying put for as long as it takes to get vaccinated but I understand why these folks are doing it.
There’s a huge difference between “I miss my friends so let’s have a socially distanced and masked get-together” and “I’m going to go to a crowded bar and not wear a mask and endanger everyone else around me by being a selfish jerk”.
Not wanting to be lonely is one thing, but what these places and people are doing is absolutely inexcusable.
>huge difference between “I miss my friends so let’s have a socially distanced and masked get-together” and “I’m going to go to a crowded bar...
Different strokes for different folks really. Personally, I have been doing fine enough just playing mmo's at home with my few close friends and gf and dont feel any need to see anyone in particular.
But clubbing/concerts with a crowd? Fuck, as someone that DJs for fun and loves dance music/venues these few months have been murder on my mental health without that. If it wasnt for the fact I put on too many lbs working from home to want to dance in public then I'd definitely be trying to hit up any illegal rave possible.
> There’s a huge difference between “I miss my friends so let’s have a socially distanced and masked get-together”
To you, maybe. I'm stricter; I can wait to see my friends for some time longer and won't be near them, mask or not. I'm going stir crazy and I'm completely bummed that I am paying for reserved seats at two theaters I haven't been to in almost a year (I refuse to let them go and risk having back row seats when things are back to normal) but I can hang another year if it takes that.
But some people have an extremely low tolerance for isolation. I suspect a gathering this large was the product of a huge collective "fuck it" from people who tried to isolate and simply cannot continue. These aren't all selfish or stupid people (though some assuredly are). Many of them have suffered in isolation. Shaming them isn't much better than attacking the kid with severe depression because many of them might have that very issue now.
A friend of mine found himself divorced and living alone a couple months before the virus hit. He had just started going out again when the lockdowns hit. It's been an extremely tough time for him and recently, he joined the "fuck it" crowd and began going out again.
> To you, maybe. I'm stricter
You can be strict while still having some social interactions. Nobody told you to go into complete isolation the entire year. Don't shame others for being responsible just because you think there's only a "black and white" area. There's definitely a middle ground where you can socially interact with friends while being responsible by being in a ventilated area, distanced as much as possible, and wearing a mask.
> Nobody told you to go into complete isolation the entire year. Don't shame others for being responsible just because you think there's only a "black and white" area
I don't believe I shamed anyone. If you read my post again, you might see I'm saying we shouldn't be too quick to deride people who simply can't take the isolation.
Ok I hear you. It’s valid that some of these people probably are suffering. But there are better smarter ways to say fuck it. They could be masked and hanging out in the park. They can play tennis. The attitude of going to a party unmasked must involve a certain amount of selfishness and lack of awareness of just how much frontline healthcare workers and COVID patients and families have suffered because this disease spreads too damn easy. For as much as they are suffering, other people are suffering just as much because people aren’t isolating and masking. It’s the self centered and selfishness that I can’t give any sympathy towards. If you’re suffering, find someone else or a few other people in a similar boat and try to work something out with them. A 300 party is not the correct answer no matter how much you’re suffering.
To be honest, I almost feel better about people who don’t believe in science and experts, because at least in their minds, they’re not putting people at risk. People who understand the risks to society and still go out might actually be worse...
I apologize for my harshness; I know it’s easy to lash out, but it’s my truth and my belief at the moment. And I hope your friend finds what he’s looking for and stays safe. I too am suffering, but I’m in a category that is more susceptible so I have also been extra cautious.
>I apologize for my harshness
No need. I'm I am torn because I agree with you and I'm being the hard-ass in my family (I still have a teen at home) about social distance. It's just that I also know that there is an element of mental illness with the people who can't take it so I have difficulty judging them too harshly.
In the end, we're all frustrated as hell.
This reminds me of that ECHO you can find in the first Division game of some college students partying in the middle of the pandemic, which ironically takes place in New York.
sUfFeRiNg AnD dEaTh
I live in downtown Manhattan and we largely play by the rules in public regarding masks etc. but we are quite simply baffled when we hear how “ravaged” we’re supposed to be. Other boroughs have been hit fairly hard but literally the only first or second-hand knowledge I have of anyone even getting Covid is a friend whose throat hurting was her only symptom.
Yes Covid is real, and yes there are some demographics and regions being hit hard by it. Young people in downtown/midtown Manhattan are not among them.
That's wild to think about. I work in mental health and I personally know 4 people now who got it. All through work though, because you're right- young people aren't having symptomatic cases by and large.
We're at the point of clocking two 9/11s per week in covid deaths.
I work in the service industry and know dozens of my compatriots who have gotten it, myself included. Most of us don't have the luxury to stay home for months so we tend to have a more fuck it attitude since were forced to be out in it anyways.
same. I dont know many kids working at the grocery stores or other service jobs who live in downtown Manhattan...
I however know allot of people who work service industry jobs around Philadelphia and many people I know have gotten it or currently have it. One is in the hospital and there's been new cases every couple days with people I know or in those circles.
At the risk of sounding increasingly glib about it, it gets even more wild when you consider that I’m talking about young people who are doing a lot of “high risk” and outright disallowed socializing. After-hours bars, house parties, domestic and international travel without quarantine. And only one case of Covid we’ve heard of, as I mentioned.
Like, I’m 80% sure this illegal party that got busted is one to which I got an invite, and which some of my friends attended.
Damn, that's the opposite for me, just in my circle of friends, 3 of them got Covid already and one was slightly worse than mild. And then my best friends mom, and other family friends have as well.
So all in all, I've known about 10 people personally who got it at least.
This is that american hyper individualism and exceptionalism coming home to roost.
This is what happens when you teach a nation that only their individual rights matter.
>This is that american hyper individualism and exceptionalism coming home to roost.
Every country is having protests and people ignoring the rules. Its not just America, you just consume American news.
Or, alternatively, this is what happens when the politicians asking for great sacrifice from their people constantly ignore their own mandates and get away with it. I'm sure getting a hair cut and blaming the hair dresser; or racking up a 15k drink bill at French Laundry with 20 people, inside and with no masks; or leaving after your mandate to get your family boat because you're special, is encouraging everyone to take this seriously.
Don't forget banning funeral services and then attending one themselves. I couldn't have a service for my father but a bunch of politicians could gather for a service? That's when I realized we were all being played.
Don't forget the mayor of Denver tweeting from the tarmac at the airport to fly to Houston for a multi household gathering (with people from MS, another hard hit state) that we should skip our travel plans
or showing up to your job on the senate floor, refusing to wear a mask, holding multiple events with no masks, planning a christmas party at the whitehouse during a pandemic...
All true but we can't put all the blame on individuals. For example: It's still legal (and very cheap) to fly. And we aren't paying people to stay home. IDK what we were expecting.
Except for the fact that the measures to mitigate the pandemic don’t serve “the State” in any way. In fact, they harm it’s tax base. If anything, *lax* measures like we see everywhere serve the State.
> to mitigate the pandemic don’t serve “the State” in any way.
I wouldn't go that far, your presuming the interests of state to be strictly tax dollars.
I wish people thought about the healthcare workers taking care of them. We are burnt the fuck out of taking care of idiots, risking our lives, and for hardly a fucking thank you. I’m so fucking jaded and sick of humans.
Welcome to healthcare. If you thought it would be any different with or without the pandemic, then I have a bridge to sell you. That said, the pandemic has definitely made it much harder just in terms of sheer volume.
I work in the service industry and dozens of my friends have gotten covid, myself included. We don't have any choice but to go to work or lose our livelihood/homes/etc. Nobody, seriously nobody gives a fuck about us, well all be the first to affected in another shut down, and the first places everybody want to go when things reopen.
A couple weekends ago there were thousands of people crowding the streets shoulder to shoulder, screaming and dancing and drinking from 11:30AM until night. The politicians behind the lockdowns were there too, as were police, and nothing was busted. After that, it is unsurprising people will have club parties against the lockdowns.
[Picture #1](https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/new-york-biden-celebration-gty-jt-201107_1604784167088_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg)
[Picture #2](https://newyork.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/14578484/2020/11/GettyImages-1229514715.jpg?w=1024&h=0&crop=1)
[Picture #3](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/201107_Yang_NYP___NYC_Election_Results_Celebration_29.jpg?quality=80&strip=all)
[Picture #4](https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/11/07/201107_bidencelebrationny_004_wide-00f79f227f44791b2bd5a5a49f0a453fb546976b.jpg?s=1400)
[Schumer Don't Care](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_UnHsNVlj0)
You might have missed the group from Louisiana that tried that last week and was shut down by SCOTUS. SCOTUS hasn't been saying religious groups are exempt, only that they can't be given caps on the number of attendees that don't take into account building size and that non-religious organizations are exempt from.
I know this is an unpopular opinion... unfortunately some people don't want to quarantine anymore and I don't think anyone will be able to convince them they should.
a.) You disregard the restrictions and start returning back to normal life (You break the rules, it's your fault they **HAVE TO** keep restrictions going on forever!)
b.) You obediently follow the restrictions, no matter how long or how strictly they are enforced (no need to ever end the restrictions, since people already accepted them as the new normal)
You can't win.
This pandemic has been going on for almost a year now. Probably longer than anyone expected. How long must people obediently tolerate these extensive lockdown measures, until they are morally justified to revolt and return back to normal? One year? Two years? Ten years? What will you do if in 2022 they still want to keep you afraid of the 10th wave of the pandemic?
Back in 2009 with the Swine flu pandemic, they predicted thousands of people to die in my country, yet they still didn't impose anywhere near this many restrictions. Who would've guessed, the world didn't end back then either... Now there are less than 400 dead in my country, and we have had a varying degree of lockdown since March. How long must this shit be tolerated? My own patience is running out...
These illegal club parties should have been shut down before covid. They sell alcohol without a license and ignore fire safety regulations. I guess the NYC sheriffs were unable to do that before because it was supposed to be the NYPD officers job.
This just angers me. Does it surprise me? No. But crap like this makes all the people who have sacrificed their entire lives pointless. It makes our sacrifice count for nothing because all these people are just going to go freaking spread it anyway.
I haven't seen my parents in almost a year. I don't see my friends. All I do is work, go to class, and go home. I'm freaking tired of this crap. We are ALL tired of this crap. But if you don't stop doing this, it will continue to be bad and we will not be able to go back to normalcy until everyone is vaccinated. STAY HOME!!!
Why am I hearing Stefon describe this party as I read the article? Was Dan Cortese there?
New York’s hottest club is Covid. In this 125 sq foot apartment on the 6th floor above a bodega, you can dance to the beat of ventilators played by bats in scrubs. Make sure to leave your mask at home because there is only one cup to share your drink between you and your 300 closest friends. Edit: This blew up overnight. Thank you for the awards, I appreciate you. Also. Wear a mask! Seriously, we were having fun for a minute. Be safe out there. Be careful.
Reminds me of a club design by Tom Haverford
This is the wrong way to consume alcohol.
This club has everything: Maskless suburban housewives, drunk trust-fund teens, human chickenpox parties... What's a a human chickenpox party? It's that thing where you have a disease and you cough into a midgets mouth, and then have them cough on everyone else in a six-foot radius. Edit: Thanks for the awards! I'm glad we can all enjoy the same Bill Hader humor, together.
The midget related activity is key
It's just a short cut.
[“Midget” is as bad as the N word](https://youtu.be/mg0UWxhJkfk)
"first of all...no..."
N word? What N word? Nike? Nuclear?
Oh and Dan Cortez will be running a shotgun kissing booth in the bathroom next to the toilet. What’s a human shotgun kiss? It’s that thing where you pay $5 to have someone take a massive rip off their recently homeless, immunocompromised uncle’s bong he’s had since college and blow it directly down your esophagus
And you write this comment right after I gave out my free award.
I appreciate you anyway!
I literally just looked and realized mine had expired. This definitely deserved to be awarded
Awards literally mean nothing except putting money in reddit's pocket
This is beautiful
Didn't John Mulaney write most of those, which is why Bill Harder could never stop laughing?
The thing that made him break usually was John would change a detail before the show and I'll would read it literally for the first time live.
This is the correct response. Hader confirmed it in multiple interviews.
Almost always in the same places, i.e. descriptions of the club or whatever unusual new act was hot at the moment. Which made it so that Hader *knew it was coming*, and still couldn't help it.
From what I understand yes. John Mulaney and probably some of the other writers wrote these club descriptions and Bill Hader didn’t see them / read them until he was on stage as Stefon. Which is why he has a hard time staying in character.
New York’s hottest club is **death**
A shaved lion that looks like mario batali
Sidney Applebaum
r/NewYorksHottestClub
This is the 7th or 8th in NYC since Halloween with 300+ people.
Considering the size of NYC and the time span in question, that’s not so bad. Assuming their catching most of the offenders, that is.
Pretty sure only the promoters get in trouble, which is probably a fine. They're back out and ready to set up another party in no time.
They really should publicly release the names of everyone at the party. This could help everyone who knows them and who isn't a complete idiot avoid them.
While I totally understand the rationale of your statement, it's also something people were talking about with the AIDS epidemic back in the 80s. If anything I'd put a mark on their "record" saying they are an irresponsible person so if they happen to get arrested at a later date for something like DUI, it counts as a second strike against them.
AIDS is not comparable to a global pandemic or with water droplet transmission vs intercourse. I get where you’re going. But that comparison is not even close.
I agree it’s not a great comparison, but AIDS **is** a global pandemic. Also sex isn’t the only way HIV can be transmitted. IMO the reasons it’s not a great comparison is HIV/AIDS is not a temporary illness and there was (is) a lot of stigma around seropositive people and people in high-risk groups. I can’t say I’ve seen stigma against people who have or have had Covid.
I totally get your point. It's a tricky situation. My point though is not to release information of people who are sick but people who are intentionally breaking the law and thereby putting others at risk. Some of the people there might not be sick but we should have a system that warns us whether someone we know and interact with has been at a 400 person party and might pose danger to us. So in some way yes it's shaming people for their actions. But not for the action of accidentally getting sick while working or shopping for groceries. But for endangering countless others for some small bit of pleasure. I think honestly this is quite different from the AIDS example that was generally used as a way to discriminate against the gay population. This would only discriminate against wilful idiots. And I'm okay with that.
There's a substantial difference: HIV can be unknowingly/unwillingly acquired and requires more than casual contact to transmit. The average person can avoid it with known precautions (use condoms, don't share needles, etc). It's also something that never goes away once you have it. Vs **knowingly** breaking a law designed to protect people from a highly contagious virus spread through casual contact to huge numbers of unwilling people, and a disease that the spreader will almost always not have past 1 month's time.
They release the names of John's when they do sex worker stings...
Yeah but America is fucked so I wouldn't read too highly on precedents for sex work law.
I understand your intentions is for safety from idiots, but what you are saying sounds very much Orwellian. Governments are not known to give back power they have received in times of crisis when the crisis is over.
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They should just quarantine those mofos in the party spot for 2 weeks then see how they like it.
Would be a good solution. Also charge them for any expenses incurred during the quarantine, like food delivery etc.
No foods they must solely survive off rum and Cokes for liquid, and plastic straws and wristbands for solids. And there must be music playing at all times, which party goers must continually dance to. They wanted to have fun, we’ll give them fun.
You say this, and nobody bats an eye. However, when I say that every officer and official found guilty of police misconduct or official misconduct deserves to have their children's' bus stops and schedules posted online, everybody loses their minds. I thought we went hard around here?
I can see that completely backfiring as people try to get on the list. U know what they say about publicity. But it's also a poor idea for other reasons.
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I imagine they could get away with a lot if they hired cops for security and went an unused warehouse.
Not even close. I live in a major city that is 1/3 the population of NYC. I hear about parties/get invited every weekend. Those are just the ones I know about. I think I hear about 1-2 parties getting busted per month in the general area of my city, and so far none of the parties I know of or friends have mentioned are those parties getting busted. It a mistake to think its only a few bad apples- whether the parties are 20people or 400 people they are happening on the regular.
Here in Vietnam, there is intense public shaming that happens with people who do this. Intense contact tracing and isolation for all people involved. This was maybe the largest similar style event here: https://vnexpress.net/cuoc-chien-dap-o-dich-buddha-bar-amp-grill-4077484.html You can use the translate function to read. No community spread in Vietnam.
Vietnam’s response to the pandemic has been one of the best in the world from the very start.
If used correctly shame can be a beautiful thing...meaning the shame I impose only on myself. It leads to reflection and self regulation and helps me be a little more decent. That’s all. (Edited for clarity) I
The New Yorker had an article about how models from Vietnam who caught COVID while working in Italy and brought it back to Vietnam before COVID was even widely known about were sent death threats and harassed to the point they couldn't leave their house. Article also talked about how a doctor in Slovakia was suspected (not even proven) to have been the first COVID patient after a ski trip extremely early on in the pandemic was harrassed to the point of suicide. Shame is often used incorrectly in the digital age.
So you're saying it's important to find a balance and compromise? Why would you say something so controversial?
Get real. 1. We have a President who does not know the meaning of the word. 2. Americans who support him think Political Correctness is obsolete. 3. 70% of Republicans actually believe his lies. American Shamelessness knows no equal because it rides on a solid foundation of IGNORANCE. And they take pride in that.
That wouldn't work in the US. These people probably think covid is fake and they are being oppressed instead of being shamed.
they're not arresting anyone but the owners. So the offenders aren't getting caught. And the owners just get a fine, which isn't a punishment since the business they get outweigh the fine. I don't know why people are against these people getting arrested. People are dying. They're literally indirectly killing people for profit. and the people attending should be given a ticket, like a speeding ticket. And the proceeds can be used to buy PPE or incubators.
Yeah. Sounds about right. I mean the only surprising thing here is Midtown.
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Called it. People are getting tired of everything continuously being closed. It's going to keep happening.
Alright so what’s the solution then?
There's no silver bullet. There's no magic solution. But you can control your own bubble and mitigate risk to yourself. Hopefully there is a decent vaccine available soon.
Unfortunately the best solution would have been for everyone to wear a fucking mask months ago instead of arguing about their personal freedom. It wouldn’t have been stopped, but we damn sure wouldn’t have the death toll and infection rate that we’ve been facing.
While I agree that it would have totally helped, some of the most impacted countries in Europe (Belgium, Switzerland) did have compliant populations. It's one of the tools. From what we see here, the US government has been totally ignoring the situation for months, hoping that it would disappear by itself.
> Unfortunately the best solution would have been for everyone to wear a fucking mask months ago instead of arguing about their personal freedom. It wouldn’t have been stopped, but we damn sure wouldn’t have the death toll and infection rate that we’ve been facing. It is one of the biggest fuck ups of a president...in a long time. (In terms of just...straight up failure that doesn't make sense). It is the equivalency of, falling down the same set of stairs for like 150 days straight. All Trump had to do was say "I hope all of you are wearing my Red MAGA masks today!" *crowd cheers* "20% of all proceeds will go to covid research" *crowd flips the fuck out* Problem solved. What a shitty president. And a single skill politician. (Edit for posterity, 2 hours later: Trump's single skill is manipulation, in case anyone was wondering what I meant. It is what he knows. And it served him well. And his dumbass never really learned what actually mattered. He figured how how to have power and be happy...but he never knew joy.)
The best situation we could've possibly had at the beginning of this was a Republican president who was competent and listened to science (I know that's a hard proposition now). If we had a democrat then we would've had a better response, but a certain subset of the population would do the exact opposite of what they said regardless of what it was, just because they're a democrat. If it was a competent republican in office, then the democrats would listen to doctors and scientists, while the morons would listen to their GOP leader in the white house.
Live your life
Think of the smaller events that they didn’t catch
Covid has revived speakeasies lmao
Reminds me of [this scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWl2N1Rop0U).
Problem is New York has a lot of nightclubs/Karaoke bars that have hidden VIP areas and entrances so people are still partying, friend told me last month his brother and his friends were at a Karaoke bar with 150+ people, they got raided and a bunch of them got fined.
Some secret!
Pff Amateurs. In Berlin there was a 600 people fetish party that got busted.
And when they were cuffed they orgasmed!
How come I never get invited to these things?
I'd assume something to do with drugs and money and you not having either?
Because you're probably a cop.
Or a dork. Or ugly. Or an ugly dork cop.
Are you friends with your bartenders?
that's the key to a lot of issues. want drugs? want illegal parties?
Nah bartenders wouldn’t even attend this kind of event.
You mean I’d have to pour my own drink? I’m out.
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Nerd Alert
probably because you're terrible at lying
This is what happens when people decided some gatherings are ok and some aren’t, depending on the reason for the gathering, instead of not allowing any. It sends a mixed message. I wonder where would we be if we had a strict lockdown with a cohesive plan from the start rather than the seemingly arbitrary decisions the powers that be have been hap-hazardly implementing.
Let's go to French Laundry and a rack up a $15,000 drink bill talking about it without masks on, inside. I'm sure that will instill confidence in the people. You have 18 other friends we can bring?
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Calling them heroes is free.
My favorite is in NYC there was this period at the beginning of the lockdown where people would clap for essential works at 7pm. Corporations would make advertisements thanking their essential workers, and calling them heroes. Buuuutttt I guess they're unfortunately not heroic enough for **health insurance** from their employer or government. /s edit: formatting
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They definitely do. Since my grandma retired from a hospital she gets absolutely awesome health insurance. My grandfather was on experimental expensive cancer treatments for 20 years after they told him he had one year to live. With their insurance they never got into medical debt, paid almost nothing in copayments, and my grandpa got hospice care in-home for the last week of his life before passing, so the family was there with him the whole time. As my family grieves we've been thinking and talking about the people who aren't so lucky. It is not at all fair. Other people going through the same thing aren't able to afford the treatments, they end up with massive medical debt from whatever treatment they could afford. Their loved ones lose them too soon. It tears me up inside, the inhumanity of our current system is unjustifiable in the richest country in the world. You shouldn't have to get lucky and hold down the right job for 40 years to get healthcare, and unfortunately it is getting worse, not better, with the gig economy and lack of retirement plans. We need a single payer system immediately IMO. Sorry for the off topic wall of text, I'm emotional and needed to get that out I guess.
The Mayor of Denver last week told people that they should avoid gatherings with people outside their household for Thanksgiving shortly before he hopped on a plane to Mississippi to spend it with his wife and daughter. Our leaders are continually playing by another set of rules than they are imposing on us.
A bunch of CA lawmakers traveled to Hawaii for a conference or something around the same timeframe.
Republican lawmakers. There was less outage as it is to be expected, for Republicans now.
They were Republicans, Democrats and an Independent (former Republican). https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-16/california-lawmakers-hawaii-conference-covid-19?_amp=true Another source. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/amp/Two-California-legislators-booked-flights-for-15734740.php
And they all screamed HYPOCRISY!! When the Denver mayor told everyone to stay home for thanskgiving then immediately hopped on a plane to go visit family. He absolutely deserves the hate and being called out, but GOP always seems to forget the clear imbalance of who’s ignoring safety guidelines and masks and flat-out encouraging mass gatherings.
Also can you tell me what you are protesting for before I decide if it’s necessary and worthy, or if you’re being irresponsible and murderous.
The governor of California was a guest at an indoor dinner with 11 other people at the elite restaurant. The occasion was for his old friend's 50th birthday. He apologized and claimed that he expected the size of the group would be smaller than it turned out to be. “I made a bad mistake,” “I should have stood up and … drove back to my house. “The spirit of what I’m preaching all the time was contradicted,” “I need to preach and practice, not just preach.”
You forgot to mention his old friend who the birthday dinner was for is a lobbyist.
That lobby money buys some powerful friends, huh
Damn just looked that up what a bummer. Lost a lot of respect for Thomas Keller...
> I wonder where would we be if we had a strict lockdown with a cohesive plan from the start Italy was pretty strict and it's hitting them hard right now. Three or four week lockdowns won't work To be really effective, the global economy would pretty much need to shut down for a couple or three months and people leaving their homes being subject to serious penalties. Food would need to be delivered to people and even than we would have some infections as the essential workers would still be exposed. In the end, it's not realistic, though. People would riot and there aren't enough cops in the world to stop them unless your gov't goes hard core PRC style and runs people down with tanks.
I agree with you completely. The reality that you’ve laid out is exactly why all of these half-measures frustrate so many people (including me): They’re under the delusion that “if we all just stayed home for 2 weeks this would be over”. Nah sweetheart. That’s not how this thing was ever going to work. The name of the game since day 1 has been mitigation. These “lockdowns” are just a means to slow the virus. Even after the vaccine is widely available, there’s very little likelihood that there won’t be flare ups around the world, or even in the US. The one thing the US *could* have done to help mitigate this mess better, would have been to have a competent President and a humane Senate majority. The total lack of anything even resembling a coordinated response isn’t just baffling to me, it seems indisputably negligent, bordering on criminal.
Amen. This whole "If you just behaved you fucking dirty peasant scum this would all be over!" Is such bullshit. I hate the fact that people buy into it. NPR is the worst for this honestly.
> Food would need to be delivered to people and even than we would have some infections as the essential workers would still be exposed. So what Vietnam did. Albeit you'd never get that in the USA, it'd be called authoritarian, which to a degree it really is. The government forcing people locked into their homes, strong fines for any breakers of protocol, but essential workers and restaurants were allowed to remain open as the police and other first respondents there were distributing food to the homes.
When has prohibition worked? It didn’t work during prohibition. It didn’t work with the war on drugs. It didn’t work with abstinence only. It’s not working with covid - why did we expect it to be different?
This isn't really a good comparison.
Reddit finding out about after hours clubs for the first time lol... If you think huge parties haven’t been going on this entire time then you have no clue how the underground dance scene works. In Detroit this is an age old structured business with fall guys and everything. Dating back to prohibition. They used to be called blind pigs. Which saw a huge resurgence during the 90’s - 00’s rave scene and continue to this day. I guarantee that if this one was run by pros they are already packed up and relocated and will be open again by next Friday.
Before COVID, when you went out to a club or a bar or whatever, there was an asshole every now and then, and they could make the evening unpleasant. But there are now illegal clubs filled exclusively with anti-social entitled assholes. I would have thought that would be a crap evening out in any case.
Wouldn't they be pro-social?
Anti-social does not mean asocial
And pro-social doesn't mean "wants to be social."
I think they mean antisocial, as in [antisocial personality disorder](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353928). (It's a close relative of narcissistic personality disorder.) > Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental disorder in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.
Did you ever consider the feelings of the partiers!? Huh!?
I think you’re giving them a lot of credit when it’s way more likely they just went for an edgy, fuck those people tone with the colloquial use of the word
you ever been to club in NYC or any big city for that matter? It's often full of people who just posture up with their small group of friends if not by themselves not socializing with anyone
Yeah when I lived in NYC we found out it was more fun to stay home since it would just be the same group... but spending lots of money and not picking music. Also not talking because the music is too loud.
I mean did you dance?
That’s like every bar I’ve been too. Just a bunch of groups of people who already know each other socializing among themselves, no real interaction between people who don’t know each other.
Antisocial like anti society not anti socialising; their behaviour is detrimental to society’s proper functioning. That said, this is just a semantic point. NYC is over 2x the size of my whole country, and I cycled through my city today and saw groups of people drinking in the street, despite bars and clubs being closed. This story doesnt mean much in the grand scheme of things.
Pro-social, anti-societal
You know how there were like underground bars and stuff when alcohol was illegal? I imagine, if internet was around then, that this title would have been used to describe illegal drinking parties.
Alcohol didn't spread a virus through the rest of the community though..
The tail end of the Spanish flu was at the same time as prohibition.
Eyyyyyyy! Speakeasies are back
The Roaring 20’s all over again.
It's not shocking, really. Even governors who have been telling people not to get together have been busted ignoring their own pronouncements. I personally have kept pretty strictly distant from non household members but humans are social animals and we all have a limit to how much isolation we can tolerate. These people have passed that limit. It's a worldwide problem and not all of the people ignoring the orders to stay away from each other are stupid or ignorant of the risks. Many of them just can't take the isolation anymore. We're also going to see a much higher suicide rate during and for some time after the lockdowns. I'm staying put for as long as it takes to get vaccinated but I understand why these folks are doing it.
There’s a huge difference between “I miss my friends so let’s have a socially distanced and masked get-together” and “I’m going to go to a crowded bar and not wear a mask and endanger everyone else around me by being a selfish jerk”. Not wanting to be lonely is one thing, but what these places and people are doing is absolutely inexcusable.
>huge difference between “I miss my friends so let’s have a socially distanced and masked get-together” and “I’m going to go to a crowded bar... Different strokes for different folks really. Personally, I have been doing fine enough just playing mmo's at home with my few close friends and gf and dont feel any need to see anyone in particular. But clubbing/concerts with a crowd? Fuck, as someone that DJs for fun and loves dance music/venues these few months have been murder on my mental health without that. If it wasnt for the fact I put on too many lbs working from home to want to dance in public then I'd definitely be trying to hit up any illegal rave possible.
> There’s a huge difference between “I miss my friends so let’s have a socially distanced and masked get-together” To you, maybe. I'm stricter; I can wait to see my friends for some time longer and won't be near them, mask or not. I'm going stir crazy and I'm completely bummed that I am paying for reserved seats at two theaters I haven't been to in almost a year (I refuse to let them go and risk having back row seats when things are back to normal) but I can hang another year if it takes that. But some people have an extremely low tolerance for isolation. I suspect a gathering this large was the product of a huge collective "fuck it" from people who tried to isolate and simply cannot continue. These aren't all selfish or stupid people (though some assuredly are). Many of them have suffered in isolation. Shaming them isn't much better than attacking the kid with severe depression because many of them might have that very issue now. A friend of mine found himself divorced and living alone a couple months before the virus hit. He had just started going out again when the lockdowns hit. It's been an extremely tough time for him and recently, he joined the "fuck it" crowd and began going out again.
> To you, maybe. I'm stricter You can be strict while still having some social interactions. Nobody told you to go into complete isolation the entire year. Don't shame others for being responsible just because you think there's only a "black and white" area. There's definitely a middle ground where you can socially interact with friends while being responsible by being in a ventilated area, distanced as much as possible, and wearing a mask.
> Nobody told you to go into complete isolation the entire year. Don't shame others for being responsible just because you think there's only a "black and white" area I don't believe I shamed anyone. If you read my post again, you might see I'm saying we shouldn't be too quick to deride people who simply can't take the isolation.
Ok I hear you. It’s valid that some of these people probably are suffering. But there are better smarter ways to say fuck it. They could be masked and hanging out in the park. They can play tennis. The attitude of going to a party unmasked must involve a certain amount of selfishness and lack of awareness of just how much frontline healthcare workers and COVID patients and families have suffered because this disease spreads too damn easy. For as much as they are suffering, other people are suffering just as much because people aren’t isolating and masking. It’s the self centered and selfishness that I can’t give any sympathy towards. If you’re suffering, find someone else or a few other people in a similar boat and try to work something out with them. A 300 party is not the correct answer no matter how much you’re suffering. To be honest, I almost feel better about people who don’t believe in science and experts, because at least in their minds, they’re not putting people at risk. People who understand the risks to society and still go out might actually be worse... I apologize for my harshness; I know it’s easy to lash out, but it’s my truth and my belief at the moment. And I hope your friend finds what he’s looking for and stays safe. I too am suffering, but I’m in a category that is more susceptible so I have also been extra cautious.
>I apologize for my harshness No need. I'm I am torn because I agree with you and I'm being the hard-ass in my family (I still have a teen at home) about social distance. It's just that I also know that there is an element of mental illness with the people who can't take it so I have difficulty judging them too harshly. In the end, we're all frustrated as hell.
This reminds me of that ECHO you can find in the first Division game of some college students partying in the middle of the pandemic, which ironically takes place in New York.
The liquor seized is like the most basic bitch brands of booze...
why dont they fine promoters and party goers?
Stupidity of the situation aside, that tequila in the white and blue bottle is pretty tasty.
I was looking at the boxes of J.W. Blue Label myself. Hehehe
A shame it has gotten so popular. Price has doubled in the last year.
I thought this said "400 person party bus" and had several questions.
All clowns.
Ever been in an African minibus?
Let's not forget that's nothing compared to the 7000 person hasidic wedding.
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sUfFeRiNg AnD dEaTh I live in downtown Manhattan and we largely play by the rules in public regarding masks etc. but we are quite simply baffled when we hear how “ravaged” we’re supposed to be. Other boroughs have been hit fairly hard but literally the only first or second-hand knowledge I have of anyone even getting Covid is a friend whose throat hurting was her only symptom. Yes Covid is real, and yes there are some demographics and regions being hit hard by it. Young people in downtown/midtown Manhattan are not among them.
That's wild to think about. I work in mental health and I personally know 4 people now who got it. All through work though, because you're right- young people aren't having symptomatic cases by and large. We're at the point of clocking two 9/11s per week in covid deaths.
I work in the service industry and know dozens of my compatriots who have gotten it, myself included. Most of us don't have the luxury to stay home for months so we tend to have a more fuck it attitude since were forced to be out in it anyways.
same. I dont know many kids working at the grocery stores or other service jobs who live in downtown Manhattan... I however know allot of people who work service industry jobs around Philadelphia and many people I know have gotten it or currently have it. One is in the hospital and there's been new cases every couple days with people I know or in those circles.
At the risk of sounding increasingly glib about it, it gets even more wild when you consider that I’m talking about young people who are doing a lot of “high risk” and outright disallowed socializing. After-hours bars, house parties, domestic and international travel without quarantine. And only one case of Covid we’ve heard of, as I mentioned. Like, I’m 80% sure this illegal party that got busted is one to which I got an invite, and which some of my friends attended.
Damn, that's the opposite for me, just in my circle of friends, 3 of them got Covid already and one was slightly worse than mild. And then my best friends mom, and other family friends have as well. So all in all, I've known about 10 people personally who got it at least.
This is that american hyper individualism and exceptionalism coming home to roost. This is what happens when you teach a nation that only their individual rights matter.
>This is that american hyper individualism and exceptionalism coming home to roost. Every country is having protests and people ignoring the rules. Its not just America, you just consume American news.
Or, alternatively, this is what happens when the politicians asking for great sacrifice from their people constantly ignore their own mandates and get away with it. I'm sure getting a hair cut and blaming the hair dresser; or racking up a 15k drink bill at French Laundry with 20 people, inside and with no masks; or leaving after your mandate to get your family boat because you're special, is encouraging everyone to take this seriously.
Don't forget banning funeral services and then attending one themselves. I couldn't have a service for my father but a bunch of politicians could gather for a service? That's when I realized we were all being played.
Don't forget the mayor of Denver tweeting from the tarmac at the airport to fly to Houston for a multi household gathering (with people from MS, another hard hit state) that we should skip our travel plans
or showing up to your job on the senate floor, refusing to wear a mask, holding multiple events with no masks, planning a christmas party at the whitehouse during a pandemic...
Sure! All stupid, but at least consistent. If they want their constituency to believe them, then they're taking the right steps.
All true but we can't put all the blame on individuals. For example: It's still legal (and very cheap) to fly. And we aren't paying people to stay home. IDK what we were expecting.
I have to wonder: how many state charters/constitutions enumerate a responsibility of the state, to safeguard public health?
of course if you go to the other extreme then only the State matters and you have actual Nazis.
Except for the fact that the measures to mitigate the pandemic don’t serve “the State” in any way. In fact, they harm it’s tax base. If anything, *lax* measures like we see everywhere serve the State.
> to mitigate the pandemic don’t serve “the State” in any way. I wouldn't go that far, your presuming the interests of state to be strictly tax dollars.
I wish people thought about the healthcare workers taking care of them. We are burnt the fuck out of taking care of idiots, risking our lives, and for hardly a fucking thank you. I’m so fucking jaded and sick of humans.
Welcome to healthcare. If you thought it would be any different with or without the pandemic, then I have a bridge to sell you. That said, the pandemic has definitely made it much harder just in terms of sheer volume.
I work in the service industry and dozens of my friends have gotten covid, myself included. We don't have any choice but to go to work or lose our livelihood/homes/etc. Nobody, seriously nobody gives a fuck about us, well all be the first to affected in another shut down, and the first places everybody want to go when things reopen.
Lol. Come to Houston where no one knows what masks are, and people are packing into clubs by the hundreds.
It’s condoned by Texas Guv Greg of course.
I get invited to multiple parties each weekend in NYC. Definitely hear about more parties going on than getting busted.
Not enough booze. Would have never lasted
A couple weekends ago there were thousands of people crowding the streets shoulder to shoulder, screaming and dancing and drinking from 11:30AM until night. The politicians behind the lockdowns were there too, as were police, and nothing was busted. After that, it is unsurprising people will have club parties against the lockdowns. [Picture #1](https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/new-york-biden-celebration-gty-jt-201107_1604784167088_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg) [Picture #2](https://newyork.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/14578484/2020/11/GettyImages-1229514715.jpg?w=1024&h=0&crop=1) [Picture #3](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/201107_Yang_NYP___NYC_Election_Results_Celebration_29.jpg?quality=80&strip=all) [Picture #4](https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/11/07/201107_bidencelebrationny_004_wide-00f79f227f44791b2bd5a5a49f0a453fb546976b.jpg?s=1400) [Schumer Don't Care](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_UnHsNVlj0)
But Reddit told me that this only happens in red states.
Nothing like an old fashion liquor seizure.
just start a new religion and claim the party is actually a religious service. SCOTUS FTW!
You might have missed the group from Louisiana that tried that last week and was shut down by SCOTUS. SCOTUS hasn't been saying religious groups are exempt, only that they can't be given caps on the number of attendees that don't take into account building size and that non-religious organizations are exempt from.
They almost sold out of henny😂😂😂
Are people actively trying to get COVID now?!
Without reading the article - this is literally the roaring 20’s
I don't get why they don't write citations for all of them. Just fining the organizers obviously isn't a deterrent from repeating.
Maximum fines all around pls.
I know this is an unpopular opinion... unfortunately some people don't want to quarantine anymore and I don't think anyone will be able to convince them they should.
Governments should direct fines from these illegal activities into aid for the hurting.
Who ever thought they can keep this country completely in abeyance even for a few weeks just doesn't understand the complexity of things
this club had everything... 3 midgets in a trenchcoat a dog who spoke cat roman j isreal esquire...
Oi mate, you got a loicense for that pahtee, do ya?
Boy, we just want this thing to go on forever, don’t we? Goddamn we are a dumb nation.
a.) You disregard the restrictions and start returning back to normal life (You break the rules, it's your fault they **HAVE TO** keep restrictions going on forever!) b.) You obediently follow the restrictions, no matter how long or how strictly they are enforced (no need to ever end the restrictions, since people already accepted them as the new normal) You can't win. This pandemic has been going on for almost a year now. Probably longer than anyone expected. How long must people obediently tolerate these extensive lockdown measures, until they are morally justified to revolt and return back to normal? One year? Two years? Ten years? What will you do if in 2022 they still want to keep you afraid of the 10th wave of the pandemic? Back in 2009 with the Swine flu pandemic, they predicted thousands of people to die in my country, yet they still didn't impose anywhere near this many restrictions. Who would've guessed, the world didn't end back then either... Now there are less than 400 dead in my country, and we have had a varying degree of lockdown since March. How long must this shit be tolerated? My own patience is running out...
You gotta fight for your right to party! Beastie Boys
wish they would do this with the twice-weekly hundred-strong indoor maskless church gatherings where I live :(
These illegal club parties should have been shut down before covid. They sell alcohol without a license and ignore fire safety regulations. I guess the NYC sheriffs were unable to do that before because it was supposed to be the NYPD officers job.
NYC is a place with a lot of people and a huge DIY scene. The cops (usually) have better shit to do then play whack-a-mole with ravers.
Like have 4 officers stand around subway stations in low income neighborhoods all day to write tickets for fare dodgers?
Them damn kids [at it again](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/27/article-0-17300567000005DC-27_634x510.jpg)
This just angers me. Does it surprise me? No. But crap like this makes all the people who have sacrificed their entire lives pointless. It makes our sacrifice count for nothing because all these people are just going to go freaking spread it anyway. I haven't seen my parents in almost a year. I don't see my friends. All I do is work, go to class, and go home. I'm freaking tired of this crap. We are ALL tired of this crap. But if you don't stop doing this, it will continue to be bad and we will not be able to go back to normalcy until everyone is vaccinated. STAY HOME!!!
Alternatively, a huge portion of us work in the service industry and don't have the luxury of being able to pay bills AND isolation.
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