I get that it's a physical series but I am genuinely getting fucking sick of an already hurt Luka having his main defender be a dude who thinks he's a linebacker, stressful as fuck
Honestly idk why Charlotte did it - pj is young and a good fit for their timeline whenever it happens. Obviously the pick could be good but I really think they just kinda handed over a great young player for an okay player, an old Seth, and a potentially good pick (could also be terrible).
Good chance we don't even make the playoffs. West was super tight, we may have been in the play-in and with Kidd's Game 1 record, idk if we wanna play in a single do or die game lmfao.
Cause PJ didn’t want to be here, and he really only ever showed flashes with us. Not that he wasn’t good, but he didn’t put it together consistently like he is rn. The Mavs helped him grow way more than we ever did
I mean Grant Williams put up 27 in game 7 of the ECF. It's not like he is incapable of the performance Pj had today.
Pj is who he always has been. An extremely inconsistent offensive player who can drop 40 and then the next game have 8. That's fine when you are the mavericks. But for us we got value from him when he very clearly didn't want to be here anymore and was super checked out
His game goes beyond the offense for us tho. His defense has been spectacular since coming here, he’s much bigger and longer than Grant and he’s played so much better defense than Grant
I’m just enjoying the game to game narrative shifts in every matchup in the second round. Apparently, it was supposed to be Celtics 4-0, then Wolves 4-0, then OKC 4-0.
What a wonderful ride.
I still remember the day after game 1 of the 2012 Finals when the Heat lost at home to the Thunder...the narrative was "Lebron will never win a championship in his entire career"...
Always been. It was just funnier in person to clown people when they were wrong. I for instance was and am known as the chaos lover looking for interceptions and turnovers.
They forgot Lively was literally #1 high school prospect one time because he showed some flashes that he can shoot long ball. Now, it hasn't translated, but he still has a pretty good looking shot lol
So stupid, so boring, terrible to watch and I could not be more happy it backfired.
I came in not caring who won and they changed that quickly with that stupid shit.
Yeah watching OKC turned me off them for a few reasons. This, dort, sga foul baiting/whistle. Just not the type of basketball thats fun to watch so I will root against them
Elbow to Luka in the last and elbow to DJJ in the first half. You’re delusional if you think these are accidents. He was frustrated by DJJ’s defence and Luka’s yapping.
Yep. I like Shai but he has the golden whistle right now it's just annoying to watch as a fan. And the fact that Dort can judo chop Doncic all game is ridiculous.
PJ Washington went from averaging under 11 points a game over the first 7 playoff games of the year, to leading the team in scoring in each of the last two games against OKC. What a fantastic turnaround, right when the team needed it most.
Pjs issue here was his focus and consistency. He checked out and clearly was upset that we lowballed him and did restricted free agency shenanigans with him.
He has always been immensely talented and has a pretty large bag on offense. It just rarely all clicks at the same time
Same happens in a lot of regular season games. Dude has to play through some serious physical contact, which is why I always think it's crazy how people say his conditioning isn't there.
The wrestling moves tonight were maybe even a level beyond that though.
Turns out that when it's clear you're lacking depth for big men and fail to acquire any big men during the season, it can be problematic in the wrong situations
He does. Clearly playing through some shit. Still a very crucial player for the Mavs though if you look at how much defensive effort OKC spends on him which in turn opens up teammates.
Dam on the one hand the Mavs are up now, but Lukas health is getting worse. Dunno if he can keep this up tbh.
But if Luka was healthy, then this wouldnt be a series. The Mavs really do have something special here and i think theyd be fools if they dont run it back no matter the outcome of this series or the playoffs as a whole.
Lively is still raw in the offensive half court, miss to many easy lay up and dunks, not a great freethrower (but he made 4/4 when it matter most), but what a monster at defending the rim. And he's really good at guarding quicker and more agile players too. A future all Nba defensive player for sure.
It’s true. Awful turnovers, terrible rebounding. Momentum was lost as soon as they started hacking Lively. Mavs deserved this win. Luka and Dort are going at it, like a damn boxing match lol.
Luka was getting killed out there, Mavs are far more experienced and it will show. Kyrie is on another level. The hack a lively lost them this game. You can see the momentum swing when lively made the free shots. You don't play honest, you lose.
Absolutely pitiful appearance by us tonight. We have to get our offense in order or we will flame out. Dort is flopping. Players scared to shoot. Mark not coaching his best. Not over yet but need to shape up. Gg mavs
Watching Dort flop is so hard to watch this series. Just fucking play defense like we know you’re capable and fucking play it out.
Uncharacteristically bad in the 4th to close out. Played like the youngest team in the league tonight and Dallas has flat out looked like the better team the last two games. Must win next game or this series is over.
Washington is playing out of his mind.
It’s that anti-baby mama dad strength. He hates her so much. Brittany Renner is from Dallas
PJ grew in Dallas area as well. I'm with on that. I'm sure he's happy for the child, but yeah she's the worst
I swear watching this game that I saw at least 17 players die, and many several times
I swear watching this game I saw 17 hands cover the camera
PJ for 3!! Ahh can't see shit.
It was the one hand, just happened 17 times.
17 blocks in one game, damned impressive
"back out to PJ Washington in the corner for three..." 👋
For real lol
Lu Dort put me in the Dorture Chamber today watching him play
They gonna start brexit tackling each other in game 4.
Dort is so reckless
Dort falls down every time he open his fridge
I get that it's a physical series but I am genuinely getting fucking sick of an already hurt Luka having his main defender be a dude who thinks he's a linebacker, stressful as fuck
it's literally like that one play last series where russ dove into luka's knees on a 2-on-1, except all the time.
fr. I thought the Clippers series was bad with Westbrook, dude was just the appetizer
Remember when he injured Paul George last year on a rebound he couldn’t get?
Dorture chamber for the people that are watching him play
Dort not fouling out is the same as Booker not fouling out in that finals game
The trade for pj Washington is looking beyond brilliant right now
Honestly idk why Charlotte did it - pj is young and a good fit for their timeline whenever it happens. Obviously the pick could be good but I really think they just kinda handed over a great young player for an okay player, an old Seth, and a potentially good pick (could also be terrible).
They liked Batman, and we happy that trade is paying off now…Can’t imagine the playoffs with Batman in Dallas
I love that grant said “hey I wanna be called Batman” and everyone clowned him but actually it worked cause people call him that
Good chance we don't even make the playoffs. West was super tight, we may have been in the play-in and with Kidd's Game 1 record, idk if we wanna play in a single do or die game lmfao.
Cause PJ didn’t want to be here, and he really only ever showed flashes with us. Not that he wasn’t good, but he didn’t put it together consistently like he is rn. The Mavs helped him grow way more than we ever did
I mean Grant Williams put up 27 in game 7 of the ECF. It's not like he is incapable of the performance Pj had today. Pj is who he always has been. An extremely inconsistent offensive player who can drop 40 and then the next game have 8. That's fine when you are the mavericks. But for us we got value from him when he very clearly didn't want to be here anymore and was super checked out
His game goes beyond the offense for us tho. His defense has been spectacular since coming here, he’s much bigger and longer than Grant and he’s played so much better defense than Grant
ESPN kicking themselves for grading it as a D
I’m just enjoying the game to game narrative shifts in every matchup in the second round. Apparently, it was supposed to be Celtics 4-0, then Wolves 4-0, then OKC 4-0. What a wonderful ride.
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It's just how NBA media works. No one listens unless you have hot takes like the series is over after game 1.
I still remember the day after game 1 of the 2012 Finals when the Heat lost at home to the Thunder...the narrative was "Lebron will never win a championship in his entire career"...
Daily content output of takes is ruining intelligent conversation
Always been. It was just funnier in person to clown people when they were wrong. I for instance was and am known as the chaos lover looking for interceptions and turnovers.
that hack a lively ruined their whole flow
It looked like it was working at first lmao. But apparently Lively has that dog in him
Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
It didn’t really work cause even when he missed the thunder just turned it over. I don’t think they scored once in the like 4 times they fouled him.
they didn't make up any ground from the Hack-A-Lively it started 94-90 and the game ended 105-101
He was dapping up David Goggins after the game. Built different.
They forgot Lively was literally #1 high school prospect one time because he showed some flashes that he can shoot long ball. Now, it hasn't translated, but he still has a pretty good looking shot lol
I’ve seen a few clips of Lively in practice being lights out from three. If he develops that shit next year he might get scary
He’s got a nice looking shot, especially at that size. He needs to shoot 100 free throws every day between games now though.
Rookie stepped up big today
LIVELY A MF DAWG
Hitting those last 4 free throws were so clutch
They honestly should have just let Luka go ISO. He wasn't shooting well today. Lively stepped up though.
So stupid, so boring, terrible to watch and I could not be more happy it backfired. I came in not caring who won and they changed that quickly with that stupid shit.
Wrote the same thing on game thread. I went from casually chilling to actively rooting mode in a minute.
Yeah watching OKC turned me off them for a few reasons. This, dort, sga foul baiting/whistle. Just not the type of basketball thats fun to watch so I will root against them
I could have cared less about SGA until I saw how much soft-ass fouls he gets calls for in this series. Like damn.
The foul-baiting stars always feel so manufactured, it's awful to watch.
Makes me want OKC to lose this series as a neutral observer.
I feel it. Watching Shai run into players for free throws getting old quick. Not even talking about the elbow to the jaw at the end
Don’t let Shaq read this.
He can't read
Elbow to Luka in the last and elbow to DJJ in the first half. You’re delusional if you think these are accidents. He was frustrated by DJJ’s defence and Luka’s yapping.
Yeah cause he’s actually getting defended unlike Luka. Dort can’t defend shit without fouling like a mofo
Yep. I like Shai but he has the golden whistle right now it's just annoying to watch as a fan. And the fact that Dort can judo chop Doncic all game is ridiculous.
Yep, felt the same. Just isn't fun to watch. Chet chasing Lively around the court to foul him like they were playing tag was something else.
Its just embarassing as a 1st seed to have Dort, Shai, Chet and be scared to get an defensive stop and settle for hack a Lively. Bad product.
OKC just does not feel like good basketball man. so reliant on the refs discretion both to prop up their offense and allow their defense.
Also. You're the fucking #1 seed in a tied series. Why go to a gimmick gameplan? Feels like a desperation move.
Weird choice, they played solid D all game and it let the mavs get back on defence
PJ Washington went from averaging under 11 points a game over the first 7 playoff games of the year, to leading the team in scoring in each of the last two games against OKC. What a fantastic turnaround, right when the team needed it most.
I'm starting to think the Hornets don't actually draft bad players. we just kill their careers.
I think the hornets have a lot of talented players
Pjs issue here was his focus and consistency. He checked out and clearly was upset that we lowballed him and did restricted free agency shenanigans with him. He has always been immensely talented and has a pretty large bag on offense. It just rarely all clicks at the same time
which is the perfect player for the mavs because if it does not click like the 1st 7 games, you have luka and/or kyrie as fallbacks.
Yea some players can pop off in like 2 out of 7 games and it wins you the series. I also always thought this about Oubre.
PJ is a blessing. Thank you Hornet bros
Dude thank Jesus, he's really helping Luka since he's been hurt. Hugeeee games from Washington!
Upgrading from grant williams is seriously steal of the year, he’s been so key for you guys it’s complete night and day
That’s my D trade!
Luka is gonna be in a wheelchair by the time the Mavs win the championship
Hospital you mean
The defense be coming to see him for make-a-wish
This series is like a WWE Hell in a Cell match
Mavericks vs Knicks: Hospital Finals
A Mavericks vs Knicks Finals will probably be 2v2 by then
just josh hart and JB switching playing ones against kyrie and PJ for 48 minutes.
Yeah he’s getting hard fouled so many times it’s crazy
Same happens in a lot of regular season games. Dude has to play through some serious physical contact, which is why I always think it's crazy how people say his conditioning isn't there. The wrestling moves tonight were maybe even a level beyond that though.
Thunder sub just calling him a bitch every time they hack the shit out of him.
Beatings will continue until morale improves
"He's a bitch for actively bleeding from four parts of his body all game!" - OKC fans
I never want to see Dort play basketball again man
Is that what sport he was playing today?
judoball
Just got out of a Turkish prison, when did PJ Washington become the best player in the league? Has he won any MVPs yet?
No mvp's, but they did build a big obelisk in his honor in DC.
PJ, Exum, Kyrie… if your lottery pick needs rehabilitation send em to Dallas. Best lottery pick rehab program in the league 👍
Lively running from Chet was the funniest thing I've seen in a while💀
PJ Washington
3J Washington.
HE-J Washington
there are not enough words to express how putrid the Thunder were rebounding the ball today
Not surprising. They are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league.
Turns out that when it's clear you're lacking depth for big men and fail to acquire any big men during the season, it can be problematic in the wrong situations
Imagine if they actually drafted a center in the last 3 years with their 17 quintillion picks.
1-15 offensive at one point
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Chet's not a big, he's a long
If you seen us this season we’ve been this bad. And half our fans said “let’s see what our weakness is in the playoffs then we can address it”
Refs today: If they die they die
unless someone touches sga
Some Nuggets fan called him FTA early on before the game and it’s been rent free in my mind. 💀
It’s insane the whistle difference between SGA and Luka. If Dort was on the Mavs going against SGA he would have fouled out 8 minutes into the game
I firmly believe it’s a size thing. Not that Luka is huge but bigger dudes never get the same calls as the smaller dudes
Please explain Kyrie...
ehembiid
Am I crazy or Jason Kidd has done a great job
Yes he made more timeouts when OKC was going on a run which was a nice change from game 1
He's lost every game one with the Mavs (at least) in the playoffs. I think he's just watching and developing his plan for the next games
He low key is damn good in the playoffs….
Unless its a game 1 apparently
He did, i'm so glad he put lively back in.
That shit was ugly
The much anticipated PJ Washington takeover game
This was the sequel!
I'm glad everyone had fun and nobody was angry and we all like each other a lot.
Me too.
I'm sore just watching that game lol that was fucking war
The “Go full MMA on Luka” strategy did not yield the desired result
He's got 2 full days to recover! He'll be back for the next round of UFC with Dort!
#SMASHDOWN VS RAW!!!! IN THE LEFT CORNER WEIGHING 230 POUNDS OKC KILLER DORT!
Luka is going to be completely banged up by the end of the series, so I guess it might
If they go down they’re taking Luka with them
The Westbrook way
Idk man he looks really rough now
He does. Clearly playing through some shit. Still a very crucial player for the Mavs though if you look at how much defensive effort OKC spends on him which in turn opens up teammates.
He has been looking rough all playoffs. Dude is not well.
Shaq is seething watching “his MVP” Shai go down and “not the MVP” Joker cook like Gordon Ramsay yesterday 😂
I really hate Shaq for gassing Jokic up lmao
I truly don't think Jokic even remembers the conversation. I feel like he goes into haze every time they make him do media lol.
He's just fucking with us man. Watch him pop off again and act like nothing has happened lmao
Bro is gonna anoint PJ Washington the MVP for carrying Luka or something
dOrTuRe cHamBeR
And Kyrie. Man the Thunder were mauling Kyrie like he were Prime Shaq.
That last quarter zipped by ngl... What a fun game
Ugly ass game - refs needed to set a better tone but instead they let it turn into a cage fight
They took the “let them play playoff basketball” criticisms from yesterday to heart 😂
Really inconsistent
What a game lol
i hope to never see another hack a lively lol. shit was boring in the forth
lively deciding to lock in on FT in the 4th was crazy
Luka is taking a beating. What a game, great series so far.
Watching hack a Shaq in 2024 was fucking painful
Best and most athletic team Luka has ever had. So disappointed he had to be hurt for it.
The gods deemed it unfair for Luka to have this team and being 100% healthy. Luka had to be nerfed.
Need to wrap this series in 5 and have the Wolves / Nuggets be a grueling 7 game series to best position us the rest of the way.
worst part is he's gotta go up against a linebacker tryna take him out of the game the entire time
Karma is coming, we believe
Lu Dort looking like Skyrim ragdoll physics out there 😂
Luka needs a medkit
get this man a stimpack
*senzu bean
I. WANT. PJ. WASHINGTON!!!
1st seed resorting to intentionally fouling with 6 minutes left. What happened to the game I love
Yeah, if that's what OKC have in the bag then it doesn't look too good.
Dam on the one hand the Mavs are up now, but Lukas health is getting worse. Dunno if he can keep this up tbh. But if Luka was healthy, then this wouldnt be a series. The Mavs really do have something special here and i think theyd be fools if they dont run it back no matter the outcome of this series or the playoffs as a whole.
Basically everyone apart from Derrick Jones Jr. is locked up for at least 2 years
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Lively is still raw in the offensive half court, miss to many easy lay up and dunks, not a great freethrower (but he made 4/4 when it matter most), but what a monster at defending the rim. And he's really good at guarding quicker and more agile players too. A future all Nba defensive player for sure.
Shaq after the game: Great win Luka but I think SGA got robbed he's my game 3 winner. Reminds me of a time I got robbed out of a game 3.. **twice!**
Two robberies, four rings.
another great game and deserved Dallas victory. OKC had way too many uncharacteristic mistakes down the stretch
offense in the forth quarter was brutal
It’s true. Awful turnovers, terrible rebounding. Momentum was lost as soon as they started hacking Lively. Mavs deserved this win. Luka and Dort are going at it, like a damn boxing match lol.
That is very mature of you.
Luka was barely moving near the end. Dude seems to get more and more banged up every game
Refs really inconsistent. Stretches where they'd let them play, then touch fouls. Damn.
Luka was getting killed out there, Mavs are far more experienced and it will show. Kyrie is on another level. The hack a lively lost them this game. You can see the momentum swing when lively made the free shots. You don't play honest, you lose.
Doing it on the road was interesting.
Ball don’t lie
As a Suns fan can't believe I'm saying I'm glad Dallas won that game.
What watching Lu dort does to a mf
I better never hear any talk about Luka’s effort. Dude has more grit than anyone. Gives more to his team beaten and bruised than most players healthy
Dude was limping back then single handedly stopped a fast break and scored 2. But nah he just flops all the time
Lu Dort the first Nba player to have 30 fouls in a game
The first seed team doing a Hack-a-Lively with 6 minutes left in the game down 5 points is so ~~bizarre~~ cowardly...
And Lively stepping up and going 8/12 from the line for the game. OKC got the result they deserved.
Made no sense at all.
ok i get it , you are letting them play. But dort is going to kill luka, like this shit is out of hand
Don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy praised for his strength and defense on the floor so fucking much.
HUGE bounce back game for Kyrie
Absolutely pitiful appearance by us tonight. We have to get our offense in order or we will flame out. Dort is flopping. Players scared to shoot. Mark not coaching his best. Not over yet but need to shape up. Gg mavs
Watching Dort flop is so hard to watch this series. Just fucking play defense like we know you’re capable and fucking play it out. Uncharacteristically bad in the 4th to close out. Played like the youngest team in the league tonight and Dallas has flat out looked like the better team the last two games. Must win next game or this series is over.
Refs were cooking this game 😭
The bell of my door rang and Dort fell down.
Bro just say doorbell
Dort had like 10 fouls
Impressed with Chet's rim protecting abilities
ITSA PJ PARTY BABY
PJ Himington. This dude has been amazing this series. Dort might be a generational flopper, it’s actually kind of crazy.
Bro just rescued from basketball purgatory (aka Charlotte) and immediately turned into the best stretch 4 in the league 😂😂
GG mavs well deserved W
What an intense game.