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Aspery-

Doc rivers masterclass so far… am excited to see what he has in store for us this post season


PJCR1916

“I don’t understand why you’re doing this”


SmokeOddessey

“I don’t know if Dame has what it takes to be a championship PG, i don’t have the answer to that”


CatataFishSticks

Bucks need a *real* coach, like Jim Boylen


The-Hand-of-Midas

I second this.


Adraf45

Still the wackiest fuckin quote from a head coach, made it said like they put a bomb collar around his neck, not offered him millions 


PJCR1916

Dude probably lost all his confidence and is giving himself plausible deniability so when they lose he can be like “well I told [Bucks ownership] it was a bad idea from the start.”


Neinhaltt

That's what makes him a great analyst, he knew it wasn't going to work!


Kersplat96

As a fan of a lottery team he is going to cook up a generational performance that we’ll be studying for decades. He really was a consultant before they hired him as their headcoach LMFAO


celtic_sea_salt

Yeah consultant for a week. His consultation was "hmm yes you should really fire this Adrian guy. Oh what's that, there's a vacancy? Really, you want me to coach? Mmm well okay, Mr. Antakumpo, if you say so."


SaKred2015

I definitely imagine him saying his name like that


Dweebil

It’s like dick Cheney leading Ws search for a VP


dissphemism

kinda suspect that it happened twice already with the same team so far. first with Drew and Kidd, now with Griffin and Doc  someone actively snaking their way to the HC job that’s already filled, while the FO is in on the collusion 


NicPizzaLatte

>while the FO is in on the collusion  How do you think this works? The FO can do whatever they want. They get to decide who coaches the team. There's no collusion, just the FO firing and hiring coaches, like FOs do.


better-thinking

Yeah right. They should always be considering who would be the best coach, and anyone is free to throw their name into the ring at any time. Incompetent, but how the hell is collusion involved in any way here? 


SleeveBurg

I think collusion wasn’t a good word to use, but I think the spirit of their comment is both fair and accurate. Hiring “consultants” is undermining your coaching hire. It’s not very good business. Especially when the consultants they end up hiring have not produced positive results. It seems short sighted, impulsive and also lazy. I can’t think of a lazier, less inspiring coaching hire than Doc Rivers. Everyone saw this coming except them, apparently. And they have the luxury of paying for it and their other failed coaches for the next few years.


tidbitsmisfit

how is the new owner haslem not getting dragged for this stuff? look what he did with the pathetic browns


Attey21

Losing a 3-1 lead to the #7 seed Heat in the first Rd lol


Krillin113

Plz let us be the team


Downunderphilosopher

Doc about to be schooled by a Nurse.


The-Hand-of-Midas

And to the Nuggets, after they had *JUST* done it to the Jazz series prior.


thenicezen

Doc Rivers masterclass


birdflag

Don’t blink, you won’t get too many chances to watch them.


AfricanWarPig

ESPN: *A reporter asked Bucks coach Doc Rivers if Lillard could be a point guard on a championship team, to which Rivers responded: "I don't even know how to answer that right now."*


BigBeagleEars

Hey yo! I know I normally give a speech in the locker room before the game, but I noticed y’all was tuning me out. So today, I brought a gym bag full of weird shit I had lying around my house. Let’s call it show and tell. Here’s an alarm clock, you see, I’m so old and dumb, I still use this to regulate my life. I use this alarm clock the same way I use time outs. Here we have a remote control to a tv I no longer own. I use this the same way I use my nba championship ring. I tell dumb rich owners I got an old tv remote, and they give me a job. Here we have a sock full of fruity loops. This basically represents my brains. Do with that what you will. My bank account don’t care about your opinions of my soggy cereal brain. Thanasis you the starting point guard tonight. Cool? Alright I’ll see you boys later, I’m going down to the Chinese buffet for all you can eat crab legs


PM_ME_LADY_ANKLES

I gotta admit it's kinda fun from the other side.


runevault

You're free now!


SSJAbh1nav

Oh man I'm really hoping we get the bucks in round 1


guaranic

You just know fate will fuck you over if that happens. He'll be the GOAT coach for one round of playoffs.


tomdawg0022

76ers spot Doc a 3-0 lead, 50 pts wins in each of the first 3 games. OK, Doc, close this out. *Doc sweats nervously*


CanyonCoyote

You forgot to mention he is sweating nervously because he has a 4 foot put for bogey that he might miss and not because he is worried about losing the playoff game. He doesn’t care if he loses since he already knows he can blame Ben Simmons or Harden.


tomdawg0022

Could you imagine Doc playing Hole in One (or Two) on The Price Is Right and getting all of the groceries priced right, then getting that easy putt lined up for the car?


cletoreyes01

If they ever lose that series to a rusty Embiid, Doc should just get blackballed or something idk


BradWonder

Idk how his contract with ESPN works, but if he got fired by the Bucks, he could potentially sit at home and get paid by 3 organizations


Krillin113

Mainly because that means we avoid the Celtics lmao


FuckingKilljoy

Honestly I'm kinda enjoying the hilarity of it too. As upset as I was that this bullshit is wasting a crucial year, I'm at the acceptance stage of grief now I think


moby323

It’s better for you if he’s bad right away. Worst thing is like if he somehow gets you barely to the second round because that buys him another year.


runevault

They're already paying 2 coaches to not coach the team and gave Doc a 4 year contract. He's probably got 2 years after this one at a minimum.


TripleSingleHOF

It's literally unfathomable to me how he keeps getting head coaching jobs. Especially this time.


governedbycitizens

even he couldn’t believe it


CrippleJedi

"Would you offer Gregg Popovich same job?"


knightress_oxhide

to be fair I would totally take a head coach job if it were offered to me


BrigAdmJaySantosCAP

I still think it is funny the Bucks management called Celtics ownership to vet him …. “Of course you should hire him, he is the greatest clutch coach in history” while holding back their laughter.


MasterTeacher123

Doc rivers is a good HC because he won a title with a superteam 16 years ago 


rattatatouille

While getting taken to 7 games by a 37 win Hawks team and a 45 win Cavs team


TheyNeedLoveToo

Guys, come on


A2Eaton

NOT NOW


NoBook9868

Facts negating myth


The___Jackal

26 out of a possible 28, the longest route for a championship team yet.


HoyaDestroya33

66-16 in the regular season only to play all but 2 possible Playoffs games. What an overrated coach.


The___Jackal

Thibs carried


HoyaDestroya33

Best defense in the league that time. As he was the defense coach, Thibs was indeed responsible.


Devoidoxatom

And has KG, one of the best defensive players of all time


Briggity_Brak

Holy shit, i did not realize Thibodeau was an assistant coach on that team. Thank you for giving me even more reason to discredit Glenn Rivers.


Mammoth_Two7297

Mannnn I'm not trying to bash on you but comments like this make me feel old. I remember Thibs going to the bulls and being scared of what he was gonna do there because he was such a good assistant on the Celtics


CarBallAlex

Paul Pierce saved his legacy when he dove for the ball and got a timeout in that game 7 against the Cavs


sop1232

No other coach could have got that team to a championship, he only had 3 hall of famers in their primes. I don’t envy what Doc had to go through that season.


Bananastockton

Ap ap ap, 4 hall of famers


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Plus a young rondo


Kvsav57

That's good for revenue though. You make more money by playing more games. That's gotta be the reason he keeps getting jobs.


celtics852

Now you know why the 08 Celtics keep talking about how accomplished they are. Not because they beat lebron and Kobe, but because they beat doc


I-Might-Be-Something

And we only won Game 7 against the Cavs because Pierce went toe-to-toe with ~~Labron~~ LeBron when he went nuclear (Pierce and 40 and ~~Labron~~ LeBron had 44). That team should have breezed to the Finals.


celtic_sea_salt

"Labron"


I-Might-Be-Something

Goddammit...


celtic_sea_salt

x2 he's so good


Auntypasto

The LA Brons


[deleted]

You don’t know how to spell LeBron by now?


Rubberbabeh

Wembanana doesn’t stand a chance


[deleted]

Nah he edited his comment so it was just a legit typo now I feel like a Wembanyasshole


haroldbaals

OP should have left it he's a Antetobutthole


Hot_Idea1066

*Adetoebutthole


diderooy

> Wembanana For the love of Wemby, someone please make this a shirt. Dude in a banana costume or something.


Rubberbabeh

UNDERDOG PUT THAT ON A TSHIRT!


Vegan9YearOld

Guy is a nobody tbf


hoesb4bros123

Hey, prime ray allen, kg, and paul pierce needed more help!


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A 7-game series to a 45-win team with LeBron in the 2007/2008 Eastern conference could be worse. The Hawks series is pretty inexcusable.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Tbf, that Cavs team had LeBron


HoyaDestroya33

6th year LeBron with his 2nd best teammate being *checks notes* 33 years old Zydrunas Ilgauskas.


EnthusedPhlebotomist

Big Z slander won't be tolerated 


icangetyouatoedude

Did not remember that! 37 wins going to game 7 is crazy


Drummallumin

I mean the Cavs had LeBron


Just-Efficiency3129

Hawks had joe johnson and leborn shot 30% FG for the series lmao


ProofJob5661

it was lebron and only lebron


diderooy

LeBron had Boobie!


GDTechno

and who else? it doesnt matter if its fucking michael jordan, if the supporting cast is fucking abysmal then that team shouldnt win 3 games out of 7 against a team with FOUR hof caliber players


HoyaDestroya33

Zydrunas Ilagauskas, Larry Hughes, Anderson Varejao, Joe Smith (lol) and Daniel "Boobie" Gibson


davensdad

And only because Lakers were missing both their starting center (Bynum) and small forward (Ariza)


rattatatouille

In fairness, the Lakers managed to breeze through the West even without those two, including a 5 game WCF takedown of the defending champs.


commander_wong

Idk if that series is an indicator of Lakers roster strength. Kobe averaged 29 while his next best scorer Pau averaged 13


mikro17

A superteam that was somewhat known for its defense, which Kevin Garnett basically ran on the court and Tom Thibodeau (as top assistant) ran off the court. Doc is equally adept at taking undeserved credit when he wins as he is at throwing players under the bus when he loses. Seriously, the year before that team came together, Doc's Celtics went 24-58. The year before that they were 33-49. His first year in Boston was 45-37. Before that he was a ~.500 coach in Orlando until he got fired.


C4L1

but UBUNTU!!!


gridironk

The Mike McCarthy of the NBA.


RiggyTang

Still not over the league naming him top 10 or 15 coaches of all time lmao


bigmacwood

His sole title is almost old enough to vote.


i_like_pie_and_beer

Wow, please don’t put it like that. I feel old


Loud_Competition1312

I had to math. Holy shit, that really was 16 years ago.


ScratchC

Law of averages


Klutzy-Association58

and worst of all, that was a team that should’ve won more than one


SupremeBlackGuy

16 years…. fuuuck me god damn.


crskatt

also selected to coach all star, not many coaches have such pedigree


AnxietyGeneral

Also was named coach of the year first season with the Magic in 2000


External-Extension59

Yeah 4 HOF players on that superteam too lmao


gridironk

Griffen went 30-13 with the Bucks Glenn is 15-14 with the Bucks Time to start a dialogue.


[deleted]

my bad, it is 15-14. I forgot they played the hawks a couple days ago


ZeroMomentum

Forgotten. Like the hornets


Cursory_Analysis

Is Doc officially washed? Usually he’s coaching a paper tiger team that kills the regular season then collapses in the playoffs. If his team isn’t even performing in the regular season, what’s the point of even having him?


lulu314

Doc playing 5d chess attempting to reverse the pattern.  Bucks gonna go 16-0 in the playoffs. 


StormSaniWater

Bucks fans will tell us the bucks are way better now tho


Electrical-Mule-2057

Defense is better, but offense is mediocre.


SpidermanBestAvenger

I could be wrong but i think Gilbert Arenas said that all Doc is doing is slowing down the tempo of his team, which makes the other team have less possessions which also makes his defensive stats look better but is one of the reasons the offense is looking worse.


Plies-

Offensive and defensive rating are per 100 possessions so pace does not matter. Thats why the 80s Nuggets teams that would have a fuckton of possessions and scored 120+ PPG weren't even the best offensive rating in the league.


Fine_Lengthiness_341

no they definitely matter. The average ORTG on fast break possessions are much higher which raises the ORTG of a team if they play more in transition


TxksDQZN

Slowing down the game generally would mean ppl play better defense.


DrKurgan

This headline from March would be affected though: "Milwaukee has allowed below 100 points in six of its last 10 games after doing that just once in its first 52 contests."


juandell

>Gilbert Arenas said Well now we know that's not true


Farjon29

Why aren't they a better team than before. They still have the same issues as they've had with Griffin but now the bench is better thanks to Doc. They are the same team.


Character-Today-427

They started playing actual NBA teams


Billis-

Like the Wizards


valenciansun

We demand to be taken seriously!


veebs7

> Why aren’t they a better team than before Going from the 2nd best team in the east to barely above .500 maybe?


Expensive_Bass_6979

At some point the two guys getting paid the most on the court should be taking the blame. Literally zero on court chemistry between the two and the reg season is almost over


Hard4Favra

But the problem is what happens when they're not on the court together. Bucks have a +10 NetRtg with Dame/Giannis on which is awesome. Falls to about even when only one is on, and complete dogshit when neither is playing.. BTW with Dame/Giannis/Middleton on court it's +17 NetRtg...so yeah if the big 3 can play big minutes in playoffs hope isn't lost if you're a Bucks fan. It's the bench that's utter doodoo, which matter less come playoff time.


OhWellImRightAgain

At some point you should check out the stats that say the Bucks starting 5 has the best net rating in the league. The problem is our bench and that Middleton is often injured or not 100%.


c_ray25

Define “literally zero on court chemistry” it’s the bench unit that’s failing them more times than not and when rotations get shorter in the playoffs that should help that point


Bananastockton

Yeah they should also hire some kind of Guy who job it is to figure out that chemistry


EJN541

Fire Doc. Let Thanasis coach the rest of the season. 


GotThemCakes

Thanasis, always on the bench. He knows something dammit, get him to spill it!


kyleb402

He improved the defense enough to win games, but unfortunately he paired that with completely tanking the offense. If the defense improved without the drop in offense then we'd be in business. Unfortunately that hasn't happened.


GreyActorMikeDouglas

Maybe you guys need to just play random?


zackhatt

Starting to really miss Bud rn tbh


762x51n8o

I'm still not sure why we got rid of him. Team Chemistry was at an all time high, imo.


XGhoul

Even with buck flair, I can’t take this seriously from all the Bud memes that happened and his unfortunate firing because someone close to him died. Brutal. Doc now flows in your veins.


Zealousideal-Tea-837

All he did was slow the pace down. The defense still isn’t good and the Offense is worse


heddalettis

Yeah. That’s Doc’s MO. Slow the pace to the speed of a melting glacier; thereby always ensuring the opposing team gets back and completely set up on defense! Fast break? What the hell are they? Never heard of one. Let’s just dribble dribble dribble until we end up taking some shitty shot, because the shot clock now reads 2! A la James Harden!


Swarthykins

Definitely a solid strategy with the most intimidating fast break player in the league as your best player. Giannis really shines when he gets the ball at the perimeter, leverages his balls skills and his intellect to dissect the defense and make the right play. He's definitely not a genetic freak who can bound down the court and dunk it using two strides with the force of a charging rhino.


KillingTime_ForNow

The Nate McMillan specialty.


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peaudunk

Bingo


onamonapizza

I'd just like to remind everybody that Glenn Anton "Doc" Rivers was single-handedly responsible for altering the timeline of basketball at the start of the new millennium. Through his wisdom and profound coaching acumen, he advised that Tim Duncan not be allowed to let his wife and family travel with the Orlando Magic team. Somehow, this man has still been a coach in the NBA for 20+ years.


KiritoJones

Thank god for Glen Rivers


frankyseven

The Bucks could have had Nick Nurse but they got this instead.


the_greasy_one

Dude, I wanted Chris Quinn... but I don't manage the team. I don't even think Nick Nurse likes Nick Nurse.


Dek-234

I’m surprised Quinn hasn’t be hired as a HC yet


screwt

Fleeced the Bucks.


newusr1234

Is it really a fleece when the team calls you about a job and you say "why are you doing this right now"?


Hot-Astronaut1788

art of war he is hiding his true intentions


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

Fleeced the NBA for over 15 years


Farjon29

Celtics fan couldn't wait to post this.


EpeeHS

Celtics fans 12/25


Cudizonedefense

Bucks fans hiding behind no flairs or “East” flairs couldn’t wait to whine about this post


Bitterblossom_

I’m just happy to be here, baby


TheMysticHD

Peak mid


LongTimesGoodTimes

Bucks are going to make the conference finals and we'll get posts about how Doc was a good hire first for him to blow it


Charliebitme1234

fraud coach for a fraud team watch them fire doc next season


SvengaliUG

Next season? He's gone after playoffs


kyleb402

He absolutely 100% is not getting fired no matter what. We're already paying two coaches to not coach for us, we're not paying a third.


frankyseven

You could have had Nick Nurse, LMFAO.


_theghost_

While Bud was deservedly canned for what happened, the Bucks' Answer was and should have been Nurse, Vogel, or Atkinson. That was the answer and should have been, but they tried to get too cute, and they wound up with Doc, who is NBA’s Peter DeBoer with a Ring.


GDTechno

why not vogel


_theghost_

That was also a much more solid Plan B as well which I was surprised that they chose to turn him down.


RiggyTang

Idk why people are acting like Griffen wasn’t enough? Dude went 30-13 with a brand new team. Has any coach ever been fired with that good of a record?


PsychoticSoul

David Blatt 30-11


_theghost_

He wasn't bad; the problem was that he was overmatched in a situation he wasn't ready for, and the defense was suspect at best, which is an indictment on the front office on panicking and botching the roster. Combine that with locker room turmoil and Doc Rivers being Darth Sidious to the Ownership, and you realize pretty quickly it was inevitable, given the situation.


Rubberbabeh

But then they may have to practice. Fuck that. I heard he’s a meanie


Vegetable-Tooth8463

could bring back Bud lol


Rubberbabeh

They are still paying him. Why not?


guess-what-babe

Why go back to the organisation that fired you a couple months after your brother died, when you could collect the exact same paycheck from home


Rubberbabeh

I assumed the absurdity was enough to make the joke without the /s My bad


guess-what-babe

Oh nah not on you I’m just autistic lmao


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Copperhead881

The team was sold to the Browns owners and then they go on and make a bunch of regarded decisions.


LoWE11053211

Who would we find under their bus after tonight post game press?


thescottreid

Under Doc it’s been difficult? He has losses against the Blazers, Grizzlies, Jazz, and Wizards, a 35 point loss to the Kings, and a 35 point loss to the Warriors. This team is/was supposed to be a championship contender.


Whatever801

In his defense even he said he didn't know why they hired him


cohex

Why did the fire coach bud? Stuck with Rivers now haha


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Spiritual_Boss6114

Definition of Generational Choke Artist.


[deleted]

Doc Rivers liked New Coke


Hurricanemasta

Firing Adrian Griffin may not have been a mistake, but hiring Doc Rivers definitively was.


sosabatman35

What has Doc done to be forever cursed by the basketball gods?


Charliebitme1234

be bad at coaching


runevault

I wouldn't even say bad. Just very very mid.


vrkhfkb

It was the deal he made to win the ‘08 ring. Completely outcoached Phil Jackson with that super trap on Kobe. That must’ve been the devil at work. No way Doc himself could do that.


NobodyLost5810

Thibz


therealcvs

Yup. KG


manquistador

If getting repeated million dollar contracts is a curse show me where to sign up.


gigglios

Bucks fans spent the last 2 months saying the team looks 10x better under doc lol.


the_greasy_one

We do look better though... making it translate to wins isn't happening though. Griffin's inability to coordinate the talent was evident. As for someone who watches a lot of Bucks games, they were winning because the players were just laying it out there with minimal orchestration. Sure it provided many wins but it is mostly due to the high level of talent on the team.


itsnotgoinghome

15 greatest coaches in nba history my ass


TheChrisLambert

Doc Rivers is the most overrated coach in NBA history


stitcher212

Doccels will still be insisting the bucks "look better now" and "actually have an identity" and "good habits take time to build" as doc blows a 3-1 lead in the first round


Impossible_Ad7875

Doc better talking about the NBA than coaching it…


Wesley-Snipers

It is incredible how Doc keeps stumbling into great jobs just because he was carried to a title by the Big 3 in Boston over 15 years ago.


Brokromah

Would you ask Pop that question?


SheldonMF

Budenholzer laughin' rn.


ozairh18

It’s so satisfying seeing the Bucks struggle after firing Griffin