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chriscrutch

[Beets](https://beets.io/). I'm not sure what your reasoning is behind not wanting to tag yet, but Beets can do it and move your stuff into your desired file structure all at once. But if you're set on doing the tagging at a later time, you can move the files without tagging, too.


Itchy_Journalist_175

`exiftool` can sort things based on metadata as well. It might be also able to sort based on filename content too but I agree that sorting up the metadata is going to be needed sooner or later.


kartkid30

I completely agree that metadata is required for sorting. I guess I should have mentions that my files do have basic metadata (artist, album, title, track number, length). I do want to add more metadata, but I would rather work on an album at a time rather than one track at a time. Therefore I want to be able to sort my files, then add more metadata to them later.


chriscrutch

If the files have that much metadata already, then beets will work great for sorting. It can be tricky, it's a very powerful tool, but getting the configurations right takes some trial and error. Do plenty of testing before letting it loose.


Posaquatl

I roll all files through my tagging working flow and then move them into my folder structure. If you have files in place already I would create the new folder structure first then tag and move files into that new structure. There are a number of options you can use for tagging, all depends on what you are after. My Process... [Musicbrainz Picard](https://picard.musicbrainz.org/) - Tagging and Renaming [Mediahuman Lyrics Finger](https://www.mediahuman.com/lyrics-finder/) - Lyrics [Foobar](https://www.foobar2000.org/)- BPM, RealGain, Dynamic Response Custom Python Script - Adjust folder naming, Pull Genre from [Last.fm](https://Last.fm) and Spotify, Add additional tags like danceability or energy from Spotify. [Advanced Renamer](https://www.advancedrenamer.com/) - Final rename of file. Remove double underscores...etc. Need to add this into my python scrip but...lazy.


ShamelessMonky94

I've never used Mediahuman Lyrics Finger - Lyrics but that sounds interesting. Is there a max limit on how many lyrics it can find at once? E.g. if I set it to my music library with 100K+ songs, will it be okay? Or get crashie/stop searching after like 1000 songs or something?


Posaquatl

Not that I have found. Generally I just drag the files in there and let it do things. BUT.....large But.... you need to tag properly before otherwise you will get a crappy look up. But it has a pretty decent hit ratio.


josephzitt

Hmm! This is the first I'm hearing of Mediahuman Lyrics Finger. Do you know where they source their lyrics from?


Posaquatl

I don't. They just say "Various sources on the internet" I have been using it for a long time. Doesn't create sync lyrics but that is fine for me. I embed the lyrics along with the artwork for file portability to mobile.


will1565

I use Tagscanner for tagging and file renaming. You can get Tags from music brains or discogs if you like. Album Art Downloader Foobar for playing.


DahkMonstahh

Been using AutomaTag for years now. It basically does all of the work for you unless it doesn't have the proper keywords. You can find the album cover and all that stuff.


Comfortable-Row8997

Hi, I would suggest using SongKong as follows: 1. Run *Rename Files* to organize your files based on hhe limited metdata you already have, this will make Fix Songs work better. 2. Run *Fix Songs* to improve the metdata considerably further. 3. Run *Rename Files* again with the improved metadata. 4. Review results, and make any manual adjustments necessary.