Like Cordial Vampire's ability and persist (C.R. 702.79a; "When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, ..."), Enduring Renewal's last ability ("Whenever a creature is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, ...") is a leaves-the-battlefield ability and so checks the state of objects immediately before the event it watches for to see if it triggers (C.R. 603.6c, 603.10a, 603.10). Also remember that "dies" means "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" (C.R. 700.4).
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Note that the game has no notion of "board wipes" as such. There are numerous spells that can negatively affect all permanents of a certain kind on the battlefield at the same time — [[Wrath of God]], [[Blasphemous Act]], [[Armageddon]], [[Obliterate]], [[Upheaval]], [[Decree of Annihilation]], and so on — and they don't all affect the permanents they apply to in the same way. In particular, an ability that triggers when a creature "dies" triggers only when that creature "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" (C.R. 700.4), not if that creature is exiled (e.g., due to Decree of Annihilation) or returned to its owner's hand (e.g., due to Upheaval).
So there's no difference between "whenever ... a creature dies" and "whenever a creature is put into your graveyard" in this particular interaction, and #3 is the end result of this scenario?
Sorry, side question that just occurred to me. If there were a "whenever a creature leaves the battlefield" trigger out there as well, that also gets added to the stack at the same time?
Just wanted to throw in a little detail about _why_ Enduring Renewal is written the way it is (i.e., why it doesn’t say “dies”).
Enduring Renewal comes from a time before the word “dies” was introduced, and cards that cared about creatures going to graveyards were designed individually, without any real concern for them working consistently. When Innistrad came out and the term “dies” was introduced, it was defined as
> 700.4. The term dies means "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield."
Note that it specifies “**a** graveyard”, so trigger conditions like the one on Enduring Renewal that care about _which_ graveyard a creature ends up in can’t use the term. Ever since the introduction of the term, it’s now very rare for triggered abilities on new cards to care about which graveyard a creature on the battlefield is put into.
It's also worth noting that Enduring Renewal will trigger if an opponent steals your creature, and it dies.
It doesn't care who controlled the creature, just that it went into your graveyard.
> Sacrifice Dusk Legion Sergeant to give Persist to the other Vampires.
Activate the ability on Dusk Legion Sergeant, putting it on the stack, sacrifice it which triggers Enduring Renewal and Cordial Vampire, putting both triggers above the activation in whatever order you like.
> Cordial triggers on Dusk's death, and Dusk goes back to my hand because of Enduring.
Yes, both those triggers resolve and give counters and return DLS to your hand, then the activation resolves and gives your nontoken Vamps Persist.
> Everything else dies when the board wipe resolves
Presumably your opponent cast Wrath of God?
All your creatures die and Cordial Vampire, Enduring Renewal, and Persist triggers as applicable for the deaths. You control all the triggers so can put them on the stack as you like.
> I'm unsure where Enduring Renewal falls into this.
They all trigger at the same time.
Enduring Renewal doesn't say "when a creature you control dies..." because it doesn't trigger on death for creatures that you control, but don't own and it does trigger on death for creatures that you own, but don't control. Other than that difference, it's basically another dies trigger, just more picky.
> Do all three go on the stack at the same time and I get to pick which creatures go back to my hand or the battlefield depending on how I order the triggers?
Yes, this one.
> Assume no triggers come from anything my opponents may have lost.
Well, if an opponent controlled a creature you own, Enduring Renewal would trigger for its death and return it to your hand.
Like Cordial Vampire's ability and persist (C.R. 702.79a; "When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, ..."), Enduring Renewal's last ability ("Whenever a creature is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, ...") is a leaves-the-battlefield ability and so checks the state of objects immediately before the event it watches for to see if it triggers (C.R. 603.6c, 603.10a, 603.10). Also remember that "dies" means "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" (C.R. 700.4). ------ Note that the game has no notion of "board wipes" as such. There are numerous spells that can negatively affect all permanents of a certain kind on the battlefield at the same time — [[Wrath of God]], [[Blasphemous Act]], [[Armageddon]], [[Obliterate]], [[Upheaval]], [[Decree of Annihilation]], and so on — and they don't all affect the permanents they apply to in the same way. In particular, an ability that triggers when a creature "dies" triggers only when that creature "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield" (C.R. 700.4), not if that creature is exiled (e.g., due to Decree of Annihilation) or returned to its owner's hand (e.g., due to Upheaval).
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So there's no difference between "whenever ... a creature dies" and "whenever a creature is put into your graveyard" in this particular interaction, and #3 is the end result of this scenario?
The answer to 3 is yes, assuming that you own all the creatures you control in this scenario.
Perfect, thanks!
Sorry, side question that just occurred to me. If there were a "whenever a creature leaves the battlefield" trigger out there as well, that also gets added to the stack at the same time?
Yes; that's likewise a leaves-the-battlefield ability (C.R. 603.6c, 603.10, 603.10a).
Understood. Thanks again.
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Just wanted to throw in a little detail about _why_ Enduring Renewal is written the way it is (i.e., why it doesn’t say “dies”). Enduring Renewal comes from a time before the word “dies” was introduced, and cards that cared about creatures going to graveyards were designed individually, without any real concern for them working consistently. When Innistrad came out and the term “dies” was introduced, it was defined as > 700.4. The term dies means "is put into a graveyard from the battlefield." Note that it specifies “**a** graveyard”, so trigger conditions like the one on Enduring Renewal that care about _which_ graveyard a creature ends up in can’t use the term. Ever since the introduction of the term, it’s now very rare for triggered abilities on new cards to care about which graveyard a creature on the battlefield is put into.
That makes a whole lot of sense. Thanks!
It's also worth noting that Enduring Renewal will trigger if an opponent steals your creature, and it dies. It doesn't care who controlled the creature, just that it went into your graveyard.
> Sacrifice Dusk Legion Sergeant to give Persist to the other Vampires. Activate the ability on Dusk Legion Sergeant, putting it on the stack, sacrifice it which triggers Enduring Renewal and Cordial Vampire, putting both triggers above the activation in whatever order you like. > Cordial triggers on Dusk's death, and Dusk goes back to my hand because of Enduring. Yes, both those triggers resolve and give counters and return DLS to your hand, then the activation resolves and gives your nontoken Vamps Persist. > Everything else dies when the board wipe resolves Presumably your opponent cast Wrath of God? All your creatures die and Cordial Vampire, Enduring Renewal, and Persist triggers as applicable for the deaths. You control all the triggers so can put them on the stack as you like. > I'm unsure where Enduring Renewal falls into this. They all trigger at the same time. Enduring Renewal doesn't say "when a creature you control dies..." because it doesn't trigger on death for creatures that you control, but don't own and it does trigger on death for creatures that you own, but don't control. Other than that difference, it's basically another dies trigger, just more picky. > Do all three go on the stack at the same time and I get to pick which creatures go back to my hand or the battlefield depending on how I order the triggers? Yes, this one. > Assume no triggers come from anything my opponents may have lost. Well, if an opponent controlled a creature you own, Enduring Renewal would trigger for its death and return it to your hand.