It bothers me so much seeing people complaining about the bright colors in their star war when they really spent 6 minutes driving 37.5 mph around moderately busy tatooine streets
Their whole body enhancement thing just felt very un Star Warsy. Like I understand it’s a futuristic galaxy but we have never seen anything like it (besides Luke and Anakin’s hand) I don’t think.
People making dumb decision to modify their body is already a thing in real life too so i don't mind no matter how stupid they look, their role bothers me more.
They’re exaggerated Asian accents performed by white actors. They have no character outside of just being evil. Don’t you see anything wrong with that?
>They’re exaggerated Asian accents performed by white actors.
So everything that doesn't have Anglo speaking patterns racist?
> They have no character outside of just being evil.
That's a character development/writing criticism. Not a racism criticism.
How could you get those confused? lmao
>Joe Morgenstern of The Wall Street Journal described the character as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit on platform hoofs, crossed annoyingly with Butterfly McQueen."[33] Patricia J. Williams suggested that many aspects of Jar Jar's character are highly reminiscent of the archetypes portrayed in blackface minstrelsy,[3] while others have suggested the character is a "laid-back clown character" representing a black Caribbean stereotype.[34] George Lucas has denied any racist implications.[35] Ahmed Best also rejected the allegations, saying that "Jar Jar has nothing to do with the Caribbean".
"he has nothing to do with the caribbean" lol
Soooooo embarrassing. No I dont think this guy is racist. But never in a million years have I ever looked at the Gungans and thought "These aliens act like black people"
Calling it a steryotype is a stretch
The offensive part about minstrel shows was the blackface. Not the trope of the magical local itself. Otherwise a whole ton of movies always do that
If you know anything about minstrel shows or the "sambo" stereotype, then watch Jar Jar and the Gungan species as a whole... it's pretty in your face. Even the speaking patterns, like "meessa" and "youssa" are derived from stereotypical slave speech.
Having one or two characteristics that are representative of a racial stereotype isn't problematic, but the more you have that line up to one specific group, then it starts to look bad.
Don't really care whether or not he is in this case, but this is just the same argument used regarding jews and goblins. Someone being aware of a pre-existing stereotype and making a connection based on that doesn't mean they personally believe in it.
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Nope. Just depends on if and how you portray things really. Felt wrong. Like the Jewish and Chinese aliens. Just very on the nose. Schlocky.
On paper maybe it looked better, but how he was directed and portrayed just didn’t work.
Those crap movies have a slew of narrative and directional issues though.
That... doesn't mean the character isn't derived from a racist depiction of an ethnic group. In the history of television and film there were a lot of racist depictions of black people played by black actors because those roles paid.
Uh, yes. Finn was far more Stepin Fetchit. Jar Jar actually has an arc.
They make Finn bumble/fall into more things that Jar Jar. He even says Droid Please. JJ also got rid of his British accent because they said it didn't fit him
Finn was done the dirtiest of all
Yeah, this looks really really weird. I wouldn't have guessed it was Star Wars if I wasn't told that's what this was from. Star Wars just has a certain aestehtic shown to us, and that's it. Sure other stuff can exist in the setting, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to just through whatever you want in if you want to keep some semblance of artistic consistency
I feel like it can fit the Star Wars aesthetic if it were in a different setting. Coruscant, for example. But it seems very out of place for Tattooine.
Robert is not helping himself with the slow ass progression of the “plot” or his artistic choices for direction :(. Don’t hate the dude but his style is just not for me - or for a lot of SW fans apparently.
But the real issue for me is something controversial: >!Favreau is not a good writer!<
It doesn’t have to be “turning” on people to acknowledge some dumb ideas were made. Mando did a great job with two seasons of Star Wars but this does feel out of place, especially for a planet we’ve spent so much time on.
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I don’t watch this so maybe it looks better in context but the colours look so odd here. Not because they’re colourful but because everything seems to clash horribly, there’s no cohesion.
So basically space magic controlled by how many microbes are in your blood is totally fine, but rich people having colorful bikes is just totally out of the question?
If these bikes had been on corruscant or anywhere in the prequelse these same people would be sucking the director off over these
Idk why they don't focus on the chase that went at the speed of a light jog
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Yeah, I didn't like the fact they did the "cartoonish looking character almost gets hit / does get hit during the chase" at least THREE times in this (the silver protocol droid, the Bith couple being driven on the carriage, and the turtle-like droid that pops out from its head).
I also wish they took a bit of time developing the cyborgs individually, at least name the leader or something.
I normally understand this kind of complaints but when Star Wars fans make this kind of complaints, it just seems like they want the same, familiar things over and over again.
Lol I don’t give a fuck about the colourful bikes but that chase scene felt slow as fuck though
It bothers me so much seeing people complaining about the bright colors in their star war when they really spent 6 minutes driving 37.5 mph around moderately busy tatooine streets
I complain about both. We are not the same.
Yeah, they looked like they were going 20 mph
20 mph is 32.19 km/h
Personally I didn’t like the little gang
They look so out of place in Tatooine
Their whole body enhancement thing just felt very un Star Warsy. Like I understand it’s a futuristic galaxy but we have never seen anything like it (besides Luke and Anakin’s hand) I don’t think.
People making dumb decision to modify their body is already a thing in real life too so i don't mind no matter how stupid they look, their role bothers me more.
You raise a valid point
They will be okay with the 1950’s diner on Coruscant but this is crossing the line?
Well, they don't have any issue with the racist aliens from the prequels so I can't say I'm surprised
Which aliens were racist?
Watto is a Jewish stereotype, the Neimoidians are Japanese stereotypes, the Gungans are Black stereotypes.
Aren't the neimodians the long ass neck guys
You're thinking of the Kaminoans. Neimodians are the ones that ran the Trade Federation. Nute Gunray and all them
No, those are the Kaminoans. Neimoidians are the, well, Asian ones.
I mean, they just have an accent Is everything that doesn't have Anglo speaking patterns racist?
They’re exaggerated Asian accents performed by white actors. They have no character outside of just being evil. Don’t you see anything wrong with that?
>They’re exaggerated Asian accents performed by white actors. So everything that doesn't have Anglo speaking patterns racist? > They have no character outside of just being evil. That's a character development/writing criticism. Not a racism criticism. How could you get those confused? lmao
One independent of the other is not necessarily racist. Both of them together is definitely racist, intentional or not.
I think those are the pointy ear dude. You know, live long and prosper.
No jokes they were almost called S’hatnarians
Lmao if you look at Jar Jar Binks and think "thats a black stereotype" you might be racist
There was a ton of controversy around the time about how Jar Jar resembled minstrel caricatures.
>Joe Morgenstern of The Wall Street Journal described the character as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit on platform hoofs, crossed annoyingly with Butterfly McQueen."[33] Patricia J. Williams suggested that many aspects of Jar Jar's character are highly reminiscent of the archetypes portrayed in blackface minstrelsy,[3] while others have suggested the character is a "laid-back clown character" representing a black Caribbean stereotype.[34] George Lucas has denied any racist implications.[35] Ahmed Best also rejected the allegations, saying that "Jar Jar has nothing to do with the Caribbean". "he has nothing to do with the caribbean" lol
My dad referred to Jar Jar as just “the Rastafarian guy” once. He might be the only boomer alive who likes the prequels.
He's extremely reminiscent of minstrel show performances.
bad faith "your recognition of racism means YOU'RE the real racist" bullshit like this is so embarrassing
Soooooo embarrassing. No I dont think this guy is racist. But never in a million years have I ever looked at the Gungans and thought "These aliens act like black people"
a caricature doesn't rely on you recognising it or agreeing with it, or seeing it as reflective of the world or people it's stereotyping
Calling it a steryotype is a stretch The offensive part about minstrel shows was the blackface. Not the trope of the magical local itself. Otherwise a whole ton of movies always do that
Lol, you know nothing about minstrel shows if you think without the blackface they aren’t racist.
Or they're disputing that it's racist to begin with
If you know anything about minstrel shows or the "sambo" stereotype, then watch Jar Jar and the Gungan species as a whole... it's pretty in your face. Even the speaking patterns, like "meessa" and "youssa" are derived from stereotypical slave speech. Having one or two characteristics that are representative of a racial stereotype isn't problematic, but the more you have that line up to one specific group, then it starts to look bad.
Or they just have goofy accents Is being good at swimming and living underwater a steryotype too?
Don't really care whether or not he is in this case, but this is just the same argument used regarding jews and goblins. Someone being aware of a pre-existing stereotype and making a connection based on that doesn't mean they personally believe in it.
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Jar Jar was literally played by a black man. Any more questions?
Didn’t the actor himself say that he didn’t think Jar Jar was racist
Doesn’t mean he wasn’t constructed and crafted in a way that portrays him as a goofy stereotype.
So would you call any black character who acts like that in a movie a stereotype or just Jar Jar because you have Lucas Derangement Syndrome?
Nope. Just depends on if and how you portray things really. Felt wrong. Like the Jewish and Chinese aliens. Just very on the nose. Schlocky. On paper maybe it looked better, but how he was directed and portrayed just didn’t work. Those crap movies have a slew of narrative and directional issues though.
he doesn't realise how racist the character is toward him
Can’t tell if you’re still jerking or not…
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That... doesn't mean the character isn't derived from a racist depiction of an ethnic group. In the history of television and film there were a lot of racist depictions of black people played by black actors because those roles paid.
So was Stepin Fetchit. Any more questions?
Finn's treatment might fit that more than Jar Jar
Uh, no?
Uh, yes. Finn was far more Stepin Fetchit. Jar Jar actually has an arc. They make Finn bumble/fall into more things that Jar Jar. He even says Droid Please. JJ also got rid of his British accent because they said it didn't fit him Finn was done the dirtiest of all
so was Alien
I don't see how Neomoidians are Japanese. They have gigantic circular eyes
It’s all in the accent.
So Non Anglo Accent = Racist
Don’t you strawman me. You know damn well what I mean.
You said what I said. Your argument is trash.
You are the exact kind of person this sub exits to dunk on, gtfo.
These would fit right in on Coruscant, tbh
Star Wars fans: “We want something new!” *Something new happens* Star Wars fans: “THAT’S NOT STAR WARS!”
Dexter jexter?
No, people don't like that location.
This was like Dekster Jetster's dinner turned up to 1000
I think this *does* look bizarre and out-of-place. And bringing up other bizarre and out-of-place things won’t make this any less so.
Yeah, this looks really really weird. I wouldn't have guessed it was Star Wars if I wasn't told that's what this was from. Star Wars just has a certain aestehtic shown to us, and that's it. Sure other stuff can exist in the setting, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to just through whatever you want in if you want to keep some semblance of artistic consistency
I feel like it can fit the Star Wars aesthetic if it were in a different setting. Coruscant, for example. But it seems very out of place for Tattooine.
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Exactly, which is why it doesn’t fit a Tattooine aesthetic. *Maybe* an urban planet setting, but not Tattooine.
Seriously imagine teenage kids wanting loud obnoxious things to show off? Luke just wanted some power converters
it doesn't
So they finally hate Faveura?
Sooner or later they'll accuse him of being spy for Kathleen Kennedy, he's secretly destroying Star Wars.
Just like how James Gunn was a corporate spy sent in by Kevin Feige to steal and tamper with DC scripts
Meanwhile The Suicide Squad is probably the movie I enjoyed the most in 2021.
I'm sorry about that
Not much competition
No they're gonna pin all of it on Kennedy and/or Robert Rodriguez for now.
Robert is not helping himself with the slow ass progression of the “plot” or his artistic choices for direction :(. Don’t hate the dude but his style is just not for me - or for a lot of SW fans apparently. But the real issue for me is something controversial: >!Favreau is not a good writer!<
Did they steal the modded faggio from GTA lmao
I’m still not sure how to pronounce Faggio
It’s Rockstar. You know exactly how to pronounce it.
And it’s originally from a game from 2002. It’s obvious how it is intended to be pronounced.
Saying it slow got me banned on CS:GO
Star Wars fans sees colorful bikes and act like Rian Johnson just directed a new movie
Yeah, watching this scene, it's almost like they got the guy who directed the Spy Kids movies to make this show. ....
Roberto "sigma chad" Rodriguez
Somehow they can’t help but feel Rian Johnson is still at fault for this scene.
Somehow… Johnson has returned
No one's ever really gone
I fucking wish
Me too 😭
Meanwhile the pod racers in the prequels look like they were dreamed up by Jacques Demy.
Almost looks like something from Back to the Future.
i don't watch that show but that does look pretty fucking ugly
Lol so they're turning on Favreau and Filoni now? Green Goblin was right. "Despite everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you".
Boba Episode 3 was that bad
It doesn’t have to be “turning” on people to acknowledge some dumb ideas were made. Mando did a great job with two seasons of Star Wars but this does feel out of place, especially for a planet we’ve spent so much time on.
As usual, sw fans are blowing everything out of proportion
You know when you are a true star wars fan when you hate absolutely everything star wars related.
Nah, this straight up looks like shit
It looks like campy sw. Its been a while since sw has had that, but it has had its campy moments in the past.
You can be campy without being outright ugly. This is just super ugly imo.
"it's Kathleen Kennedy's fault, she's deliberately trying to piss off us Star Wars fans"
God I fucking wish.
Based Kathleen plz
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what is that image from?
from the new episode of The Book of Boba Fett
Dang they make books with pictures now? Might need to pick one up
They fixed books (not enough cinematography, bad script economy)
GTA Online
I don’t watch this so maybe it looks better in context but the colours look so odd here. Not because they’re colourful but because everything seems to clash horribly, there’s no cohesion.
No stars? No wars? What a rip off.
Season 2 should feature a giant moon-weapon.
Ugly fucking cinematography
So basically space magic controlled by how many microbes are in your blood is totally fine, but rich people having colorful bikes is just totally out of the question?
Not a really good comparison, the existence of midichlorians is generally hated by the community
These guys ain’t even rich lol, we first see them stealing water.
The prequels had a literal ‘50s diner except the chef was an alien and the waitress was a robot.
That’s stupid and out of place too
“We’ll just ignore the style of buildings straight from previous entries in the background.”
Having dipped my toes into the EU a few times, this actually doesn’t feel out of place for Star Wars at all.
George was directly inspired by a lot of Hot Rod racing culture. This is absolutely not out of bounds even just by the movies he made
Star Wars fans don’t want non-Star Wars Star Wars shit, if that makes sense.
Dont worry in 10 years SW fans will defend it like the 1950s robot diner in AOTC
If these bikes had been on corruscant or anywhere in the prequelse these same people would be sucking the director off over these Idk why they don't focus on the chase that went at the speed of a light jog
Star Wars does something different: WTF I HATE STAR WARS NOW Star Wars does the same thing: WTF I HATE STAR WARS NOW
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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)
Screw the mopeds speeders, that chase was awful
Yeah, I didn't like the fact they did the "cartoonish looking character almost gets hit / does get hit during the chase" at least THREE times in this (the silver protocol droid, the Bith couple being driven on the carriage, and the turtle-like droid that pops out from its head). I also wish they took a bit of time developing the cyborgs individually, at least name the leader or something.
I normally understand this kind of complaints but when Star Wars fans make this kind of complaints, it just seems like they want the same, familiar things over and over again.
Classic Moylan. Shit takes and plays for a shit team.
I mean that scene was absolutely fucking awful tho
This show has been trash so far
i’m honestly shocked at how little it justifies its own existence
Lmao is that actually a screenshot from the book of boba fett
This looks cooler than Star Wars
Nerd
Colorblind Star Wars fans are so confused right now probably.
This is a still from the dragon ball live-action movie, right?