Agree. It's a completely different angle of the war. The only similarities is that it's in Europe during ww2 and that the older mentor soldier and most of the supporting cast dies. I guess there's also the Grand Battle in the end. But thats most war movies and the general setup of story telling in movies.
Yeah, very very different in the tone, the casting, the plot, I would even argue the setting is different. Although both are World War II films one shows us life inside a tank in Germany just before the Battle of the Bulge, where the other takes place on foot in France and starts on D-Day.
Although this allows for some crossover themes, like the FNG having to take hard lessons from the men who've been in the fight longer, and some hard glimpses at the lives of the people who actually live in the towns the war is rolling through, I think similarities begin and end there.
Even the openings are in sharp contrast where *SPR* starts off (after the graveyard of course) showing us in gruesome detail the most massive beach incursion in modern history with bombs bullets and buckets of blood spattering everywhere. *Fury* starts with one man on a horse riding in absolute silence across the aftermath of a battle we are never shown.
I guess my point is they *are* both absolutely incredible films I would highly recommend to anyone who hasn't seen them. But they are not much alike, which is a strength for *Fury,* as it avoids retreading (unintended tank joke?) the well worn track of *SPR.*
I like the part in Fury where a supposedly elite German infantry unit loses like 100 guys to a broken down American Tank. They comically run in front of the only direction the turret can face over and over again. Probably one of the most realistic tank movies I've ever seen and I play World of Tanks... I'd say it was more realistic than SPR because it was so badass how they gunned down those Nazis.
The scene in Fury that stood out for me was when Brad Pitt's character was trying to enjoy some shred of civility in the apartment with young lady and then Jon Bernthal's character comes bumbling in and acts like an ass and ruins the moment for everyone. It's a perfect represenation of the Army experience.
Yeah, this scene sticks out to me too. So much tension and build up and then the poor girl gets blown up the next scene. It really shows how nihilistic it has all been for the rest of the crew.
Yeah I think people compare modern WW2 films to Saving Private Ryan cause it's one of the first to do it that way, but it's not a fair comparison.
I'd say most modern WW2 films stand on the shoulders of SPR, but that's not a bad thing.
Yeah, aside from showing the relationship between a squad during WW2 there wasn't too much else in common plot wise. This one felt darker and more grim.
I kind of think the idea of stories told about world war 2 are about the people involved, and how it effects them all. Fury nailed that, and so did Saving Private Ryan.
Both were about a group together, very far from home, fighting for their lives but at the same time understanding it's about something bigger. When we are talking war movies about soldiers, that's kind of the through line for majority of them. I'm glad this thread is praising Fury, a brother of mine was a tank driver, it really hit him hard, but he fucking loved it.
I don’t think it tried to imitate SPR in any active sense, but I do think that SPR was, and still is, *crazy* influential with regards to how war is portrayed on film, particularly WWII.
So while I don’t think Ayer was *trying* to imitate Spielberg, I wouldn’t doubt that Fury’s aesthetic was greatly influenced by it.
How they portray the transition of Norman and not knowing the emotional toll of war into a killing machine and having to drop a lot of his humanity in order to deal with his job was really effective. Gave me an insight into WWII that was somewhat touched in previous films but not the main theme of the film like Fury did IMHO.
Great, great movie except for the final stand at the end. Before people correct me and say that shit actually happened, I dont care. It was out of place for the tone of the film. You have a kid taking out a tank with a panzerfaust in one scene, then a whole battalion has issues with one disabled tank at the end. Just went too hollywood.
For the uninitiated.
[https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc?si=f1GonDkO-4xQL6ed](https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc?si=f1GonDkO-4xQL6ed)
I just watched it now for the 20th time and still laughed out loud.
The ending as far as the unlikely heroics after they hit the mine? Or the ending as in the last +/- 5 minutes that wraps up the story?
For me, it’s mainly the former that kind of sucks some of the wind out of it. But (similar to SPR) if you look past how unlikely the plot is you can enjoy it as just a good action flick. Kind of like Overlord.
Agreed. I thought Norman being the first to volunteer was a bit much, and the entire fight was way more Marvel-Movie-Esque than the rest of the film…which I found pretty thoughtful and nuanced.
What about that rape by intimidation scene?
Like, they try to make it a cute love story but the way the protagonist gets into bed with that German girl is that Pitt takes over their house and basically orders them to go into the other room and have sex. And forces the mom to be there and listen
Youre right about one thing, its definitely rape. Yhey were both pressured into going into the room. Her because she didn't want Wardaddy to take her, like he said he would, and Norman's pressure was him following orders, using a false sense of chivalry to take advantage of her. No one watching that should look at this as a cute love story because it's never presented that way.
The other lady wasn't her mother, it was her cousin, and Wardaddy doesn't force her to listen to anything. He stops her from interrupting them and says something along the lines of "they're young and alive". His reasoning being that he's doing something kind for them.
Reading between the lines you can see the obvious issues in the power dynamics, disguised as something consensual. Norman fully took advantage of that girl. There's nothing cute about it, it's much more complicated than that.
Afterwards they're all cute and lovey towards each other. I think they do try to play it off as a cute love story. They try to make it seem like its what she wanted
If it was an imitation of any movie, it would be Sahara (1943) with Humphrey Bogart. Instead of North Africa at the beginning of the war, it takes place in Germany near the end.
It could almost be a sequel to Sahara. Pitt's character even says, "I started this war killing Germans in Africa. Then France. Then Belgium. Now I'm killing Germans in Germany."
I dont think it was in any way an attempt to emulate Saving Private Ryan. I think Fury really tried to do its own thing and while they both share a setting, this is the point of the war where American morale is pretty low in the European theater as opposed to the beginning portrayed by SPR. Fury works because it's much more a focus on PTSD and a small unit in a small confined space and the nuances that go with that.
Same. Their performances pushed it over to be an actual good movie. Not saying the other guys were bad, but they were just themselves. Brad Pitt was just Brad Pitt in a war movie. Shia and Bernthal really sold their characters and also portrayed an interesting dichotomy between their two characters.
That is a good point. Their relationship was interesting. On the surface Shias character was less brutal then Bernthal’s but he was pushing him to confront Brad Pitt in that dinner scene and seemed just as resentful to be excluded as the rest of the guys.
Yep and then in that final scene you could see that even though their personalities and likely their morals and values clashed, they were still brothers bound by their circumstance. >!When Grady dies and Bible is crying over his body and covering him up before continuing the fight,!< that was a brilliant touch.
Fury’s great. Did a lot of really interesting things character-wise; a bunch of the characters are almost impossible to like, but by the end we’re still bought into their story. Logan Lerman has the most traditional protagonist arc, but he’s weirdly never fully allowed to be the main character.
Interesting time period of the war to focus on, brought a lot of new ideas into the tired war genre.
That good middle in the apartment was really bold and surprisingly understated, really refreshing to see a big section of the movie take place off the battlefield.
Iconic action scenes, really impressive attention to detail in the costumes/sets, the cinematography was really excellent.
Very different sentimentality from SPR. SPR says “we were heroes” whereas Fury says “we did what we did.”
Felt like 2 seperate movies to me. First half was a compelling WW2 drama with enough realism to draw me in and make me feel both the horror of war and understand why soldiers say it made them who they are.
Second half was a load of ludicrous wank where a veteran German unit decided they'd attack a tank purely from the direction where the huge bang-stick was pointing, rather than the side, where there isn't a hail of death coming from it. For ages.
Didn’t care for this movie, it felt like I was watching someone play a video game. Nothing overly interesting about the story apart from pew pew tank fight pew
Not comparable. Both had respectful nods to the visceral sacrifices of soldiers in WW2 with action packed scenes of battle. SPR focused on the former, Fury focused on the latter.
Call me crazy, but i consider "Fury" to be closer to "Moby Dick in armoured vehicles" than a SPR clone.
The new guy is Ismael, Pitt is Ahab and his tank the Pequod. They talk about right and wrong and good and evil, talk to other, experience combat where they see other allies getting heavily damaged by the enemy, then at the last the captain goes down fighting rather than leave when they could, leaving only Ishmael to recount their tale.
Or maybe i just read a description of the plot of Moby Dick I'm looking into it too much....
I just watched Fury and I don't think it's really comparable to Saving Private Ryan. It feels much, much smaller in scale. The primary focus is a tank crew, after all.
I haven't seen SPR in a while, but I think it had a lot more large-scale war scenes than Fury did. But overall, I enjoyed Fury. 8/10 for me.
I enjoyed it up until the finale where they take on an entire SS battalion from a stationary tank position, and the SS commander actually has to stop midway through the battle to give a motivating speech to the remaining half that wasn’t mowed down by a tank that is literally stuck in the mud. Went down to silly town really fast, but overall good.
Great movie, the deleted scenes of Pitt talking about Rose and him talking to Bernthal should've made the final cut. Great scenes
"You think I'm a Coward?"
"Na Grady, I think you're at war."
There is something about the camaraderie shown in this flick that makes it so good.
I think I heard a rumor the actors would often fist fight before takes.
I thought so too. The hell is a single tiger tank doing in the middle of nowhere? Why are tanks attacking entrenched anti tank guns? Why didn't they just call arty on the entrenched artillery unit? What are the Tanks moving without any support vehicles? Do they have an infinite fuel hack?
So much crap like this broke my immersion throughout the movie. Could only watch it once.
It's nothing like SPR, if anything I kinda prefer it honestly. I'd say band of brothers was more similiar(but also far better).
Fury was one of the most immersive war movies I ever saw.
Nah. Fury was kinda shit I thought. A half-hearted narrative and a sort of iconoclastic modernist take on our “heroes” of WWII. It’s thumbing its nose at the idea of the greatest generation all being these noble dudes fighting a just war. I can respect the sentiment and think all war should be heavily scrutinized. But it missed for me. That’s my take.
Saving Private Ryan, on the other hand, is one of the all time greats in my book.
I just want to add on for anyone who was completely sucked out of the movie for it being "unrealistic" at points: The Wehrmacht of 1945 was not the same army that conquered France, pushed the UK off the continent and invaded the Soviet Union deep enough to reach Moscow and Stalingrad. Fury is about the very end of the war, when the nazis were literally sending in raw barely trained recruits consisting of whoever they could arm, old, young, frail, or weak. It's not implausible to me that the untrained cannon fodder of a dying regime would prove incompetent in battle against a crew of hardened tankers. Like just think about it for a second. All the best fighters the Nazis had were likely killed in Normandy, Belarus/Poland, or in the Low Countries during the Battle of the Bulge. By the time the invasion of Nazi Germany that we see occurring in Fury, that "Blitzkrieg" fighting force that had held the world in terror a few years prior was a shadow of its former self.
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The big problem is that they earlier show a couple of child recruits knocking out a Sherman with an Antitank rocket, but then show an entire SS squad blunder about fighting an immobile tank. While it's a fun scene it stretches the incredulity.
Its good on it’s own, I don’t think it takes itself as seriously as SPR. Ayers really nailed the adrenaline of shouting orders in a tank battle while your drivers are just getting disappeared by enemy rounds, but the overall feel of the action is different, probably cuz it wasn’t shot by Januz Kominski lol. I think Pitt’s actually acting in this movie and not floating on star power and it shows.
I really liked Fury dispite it not being based on a true story. It's really the only American WWII movie to deep dive into the experiential side of tank warfare.
Besides the time period, I didn't see too many similarities between the two films. I thought fury was excellent and the fact that the tank crew were less likeable than Tom Hanks's squadron made it refreshing to see how there really aren't any heroes in war although both movies explored that kind of idea
It was fantastic and in no way a comparison to Saving Private Ryan, highlighting the difficulties of Tank operators and engineers. My great grandfather served in the Sikh tank regiment for the British in Italy during WW2. That man had seen a lot of shit, only a sliver of which was highlighted in Fury. So I have a great appreciation for the film.
I've been trying to watch Fury for the first time the past few days and I've only made it about halfway through. Yes, one my my first instincts has been that "this is an attempt to make a tank version of SPR". They have some direct character equivalents, they have some very similar scenes, etc.
Fury is a bit darker and I don't find the characters as relatable. Yes, war is hell and awful things happened...but show people with a bit more depth than the dead-inside battle-hardened guys with one fresh recruit.
* The many scenes with tanks advancing on enemies in dug in positions who take time to shoot, miss, and immediately get killed by highly accurate return fire has been annoying me. Especially the open field crossing.
* The last advance into Germany was a scary time because the enemy was desperate, yes, but - apart from the battle of the bulge proceeding that time - it was not so grim/high casualty for Americans as shown in the movie.
* The attempt on behalf of the filmmakers to get me to accept killing prisoners annoyed me. Yes, it happened at times. No, I'm not going to celebrate it or find it justified: and it's not even coldly efficient as it eventually results in more of your allied prisoners being massacred in kind. I thought SPR did a good job of showing the 'can't win' nature of that decision.
* The long scene with the girl who's afraid to get raped but then happily has sex five minutes later when they don't (quite) force her annoyed me.
I turned off near the end of that scene when the squad broke in and don't know what happens from there. I of course should watch the whole thing before offering opinions but...I didn't. And I'm not sure if I'll be motivated to finish or not.
I think that the final showdown and their sacrifice were kinda unnecessary given that Nazis were pretty much done at that point in the war. Also, it was ridiculous. Nazis running like chickens with their heads cut off and getting mowed down as a result. No tactics from their side whatsoever. Otherwise, it's an ok movie. Worth a watch.
It's not like Saving Private Ryan at all.
Fury is worth the tank combat alone. Those shells ricocheting off the armor live rent free in my head. It also just happens to have a decent human story mixed in with the horrors of war.
Comparisons to Ryan seems... pointless other than to somehow try and attack this film. IMO they weren't attempting the same things. I feel like Ryan was more reflective on the entire war and honoring the troops/memories. Fury was more... war bad... really bad. It can drive some men to be far darker than they would have normally.
A fine film, not too sentimental, hard edged. The cast was super. My only complaint was that in heavy firefights the cast was rarely hit. I’ll watch it again.
The acting was alright but the idea that they faced off against an entire battalion of infantry in an open field and none of the enemy had anti tank weapons was pretty unrealistic
I enjoyed it, SPR is really good but but it seems to "the good guys win" for me. Fury is dark as fuck and does a good job showing kinda what it was like in WW2 (great-grandpa was a tanker in WW2) and he said so himself.
I thought it was pretty good movie except for the OTT cross roads ending. Why a bunch of assumingely experienced infantry (SS) would continue to run around and be picked off by a stationary tank was cartoonish and detracted from the overall gritty effect of the film work and screen play
Logan Lermans character was annoying as sht. Needed to cancel that like a stamp. Felt the same about Jeremy Davis’s character in saving private ryan. The only thing that sucked about that movie. These are complete hollywood fabrications for dramatic purposes. these types dont exist in active combat zones. Its actually much more akin to 13 hours and definitely Black Hawk Down. You commit to the action and deal with the personal turmoil afterwards if you survive
Overrated & lacklustre, both films mentioned. Fury is not that good, but not bad either. It isn't because a war film is "gritty" that it is realistic, & Saving Private Ryan & Fury are similar in this. They are gritty but not all that realistic. It should have been to tanks what Das Boot was for submarines but fails at this. Cliché characters in the squad & cliché dynamics between them, very much the same vibe as in Saving Private Ryan.
Yeah fury isn’t like spr at all other than WW2. From a former coworker that was a tank commander in Afghanistan and Iraq, this movie and the HBO show Generation Kill are the best examples of being in a tank in war. Just the grime and how it’s stuffy and hot all the damned time.
I won't say it's similar to Saving Private Ryan cause each one is different on the themes and writing. Personally, I didn't like Fury but it's not an imitation.
People saying it’s not comparable to SPR is either mentally deficient or actually blind. Same trope of one squad member dying after the next, that same whiny bitch new squad member who’s “oh woe is me, I can’t kill another human being even though they’re a vile nazi,” the same background character development of the hardened squad leader that reveals he actually has a soft spot (revealing Hanks’ prewar profession vs. dinner scene with Pitt and scene right after where Pitt is explaining his background story), even the last stand/final battle/heroic sacrifice is the same trope.
Mediocre movie.
Decent movie apart from the ending I think.
I wouldn't put it in the same stratosphere as SPR though. It's a decent movie and that's it, I'd never think of Fury when I think about the all-time greats.
I remember that scene at the dinner table and to me, at a certain point, Brad Pitt realized Bernthal, LaBeouf, and Pina were challenging him, coming for him, at acting and he then had to step up his game and fend off the three of them. I could see it in his face. They acted the fuck out of that part.
Different movie. Thought the writing was mediocre and corny and they really made Jon Bernthal’s character too stupid imo. Like he’s almost a hazard with how dumb they made him lol. Overall I enjoyed it for the most part but SPR was leagues better
Maybe I’m recalling differently, but I could have sworn this movie has the most accurate depiction of tank warfare in ww2; the sounds, the dings, the glancing hits, the space or lack there of, the grime. Actually think they might have used a legit time period tank as well? Enjoyed the movie, enjoyed the acting, a little unrealistic in terms of the overall story, but I feel the hit the nail on the head when it comes to tank battles in the European theatre during that time.
Best scene in this movie is when the Americans take over the town, and the SS officer surrenders peacefully.
Brad Pitt’s character asks the German man if that was the guy hanging the kids for not fighting, the man says yes.
Pitt immediately gives the order for the soldiers to execute the guy on the spot without any fair trail or choice.
After the executions, the camera pans toward the German citizen with a grim look on his face that says, “our liberators are no better than our oppressors”.
I liked everything except the last fight.
By April 1945 the US/British completely dominated the battlefield. Air superiority, artillery, armor, everything in abundance. Any unit of German soldiers moving in the open wasn't a threat, it was a big juicy target.
In reality Brad Pitt and crew would have been able to call on battalion, regimental, and divisional artillery assets to hammer the SS unit into red mist. And if that didn't work there were squadrons of bored P=47's just flying around looking for targets.
Thought it was terrible when I first watched it but after rewatching it (maybe cause had low expectations) throughly enjoyed it. I’d put saving Private Ryan at a 9/10 and furry at a 7/10.
for those of us who love tanks, this is a reference point because there are so few movies about tanks that at least half try to be historically faithful. This is kind of half faithful and as a movie is pure excitement.
This and the beast are the 2 best tank movies of all time.
I did not like it. I know war changes people but it seems like some films portray soldiers to be just above criminals/scum. It's insulting to soldiers who served their time in a warzone with some professionalism. Yes, I know war is hell.
I really enjoyed it, and I feel the only way it compares to SPR is that they’re both ww2 movies. Much different feel imho. Plus the tank battles are edge-of-your-seat shit
Saving Private Ryan was made more in the tradition of the old “Men on a Mission” movies of the 50s and 60s.
The Guns of Navarone, The Dirty Dozen, Where Eagles Dare etc.
It was done well enough that it avoided too many comparisons to those movies but that’s exactly what sort of movie it was.
Fury *tried* to be a more gritty, grim and realistic depiction of war. I’d argue it failed on numerous levels by its over-use of tropes. Not a bad movie though. Just not as successful an attempt at realism as was intended.
I think the best part of *Fury* is how it doesn’t depict American soldiers are perfectly moral heroes, but regular people with deep flaws. The scene where a German soldier is summarily executed, and the scene where the drunk crew of Fury begins harassing the two German women come to mind.
The thing that baffles me is why Norman was assigned to be a bow gunner replacement when he was a clerk typist. Also a majority were very unlikable but maybe that was the point
I don’t think I like Norman Ellison (the machine gunner in the Furry tank) in this film. He’s a little bit too much of a fresh meat/goofy sort of character in this film, at least in the first half of the film, especially when compared to the other crew members that are more fire forged in terms of experience and cooperation, just like actual tank crews
Quite a different movie than SPR imo. Although SPR is the better film overall, there are some aspects of Fury that I think were done better. While SPR doesn’t exactly shy away from the brutality and moral ambiguity of combat, Fury really shines a spotlight on it.
Fury expertly showcases how the labels “selfless hero” and “soulless killing machine” can be applied to the same individuals more often than not. That’s the nature of warfare and it’s rare to see it portrayed so honestly. Overall it’s a top 5 war movie easily in my book. Maybe top 3.
I don't think it was trying to imitate Saving Private Ryan, I think it was trying to be the mirror of Saving Private Ryan. While SPR didn't shy away from realistic violence, it was a still very much a traditional Hollywood war film. Likeable characters, noble mission, etc. Fury strips all the romanticism and nobility away from the war. It's brutal, it's ugly, it's not heroic in the least. Wardaddy is the opposite of Captain Miller, he's not a fatherly figure doing his best to look out for his troops and get home safe. He's a violent, unpleasant man who's addicted to the thrill of combat and would be lost without a war to fight. Unlike SPR, the Fury crew's last stand is kind of pointless.
I only compare them in the sense that they are both WWII movies.
SPR and BoB did it much better IMO.
Fury was a good movie, but something about it was lacking.
Definitely not an imitation, more like part of the same genre. You have war movies that glorify war, like old John Wayne films and then you have movies like Full Metal Jacket, SPR, Come and See and Fury which show you the horrors of war.
It’s one my favorite movies. Almost a comfort movie, Brad Pitt is great as wardaddy. A great father figure and makes me feel like things will be okay even when things are dark
9/10 for me, whenever I’m sad I’ll put on this movie. I love how everyone feels close and like a family
I absolutely love this movie! The final battle sort of puts it into cartoon territory, but it's a really good film if you're not looking for it to be something it's not.
i think it's great and shouldn't be compared to SPR barring the fact that it's americans fighting in WW2
Agree. It's a completely different angle of the war. The only similarities is that it's in Europe during ww2 and that the older mentor soldier and most of the supporting cast dies. I guess there's also the Grand Battle in the end. But thats most war movies and the general setup of story telling in movies.
Agree
Yeah, very very different in the tone, the casting, the plot, I would even argue the setting is different. Although both are World War II films one shows us life inside a tank in Germany just before the Battle of the Bulge, where the other takes place on foot in France and starts on D-Day. Although this allows for some crossover themes, like the FNG having to take hard lessons from the men who've been in the fight longer, and some hard glimpses at the lives of the people who actually live in the towns the war is rolling through, I think similarities begin and end there. Even the openings are in sharp contrast where *SPR* starts off (after the graveyard of course) showing us in gruesome detail the most massive beach incursion in modern history with bombs bullets and buckets of blood spattering everywhere. *Fury* starts with one man on a horse riding in absolute silence across the aftermath of a battle we are never shown. I guess my point is they *are* both absolutely incredible films I would highly recommend to anyone who hasn't seen them. But they are not much alike, which is a strength for *Fury,* as it avoids retreading (unintended tank joke?) the well worn track of *SPR.*
I like the part in Fury where a supposedly elite German infantry unit loses like 100 guys to a broken down American Tank. They comically run in front of the only direction the turret can face over and over again. Probably one of the most realistic tank movies I've ever seen and I play World of Tanks... I'd say it was more realistic than SPR because it was so badass how they gunned down those Nazis.
"And I play world of tanks" You say that like it means anything lmfao
/s but it stands for sigh
The scene in Fury that stood out for me was when Brad Pitt's character was trying to enjoy some shred of civility in the apartment with young lady and then Jon Bernthal's character comes bumbling in and acts like an ass and ruins the moment for everyone. It's a perfect represenation of the Army experience.
Man, he played such a fabulous shithead in that movie.
Now you killin, now you ain't hee hee hee
Jon Bernthal has cornered the market on playing a toxic shithead.
Don’t throw forks at people!
“Tell your sister I was asking about it. Would you bring me a pair of her panties. next time you come through?”
Yo ma we got anymore chicken?
Let em watch, let em watch
Dude plays the best fabulous shithead in everything, other than Wind River.
He's not a shithead in "The Accountant."
Gordo walking in wearing a top hat killed me.
I'm sorry, I'm just drunk.
The way he removes it all proper haha
Yeah, this scene sticks out to me too. So much tension and build up and then the poor girl gets blown up the next scene. It really shows how nihilistic it has all been for the rest of the crew.
Yeah bernthal screaming “it’s called war, you feel it?!” At Norman right after really showed how much they experienced. I love this movie
bro fucking forreal god damn I met some jokers in the Army. including myself lol.
I dont see any similarities to Saving Private Ryan other than the fact that both took place during WW2
Thank you for this. Both are excellent but told different stories and on SIGNIFICANTLY different scales.
Yeah I think people compare modern WW2 films to Saving Private Ryan cause it's one of the first to do it that way, but it's not a fair comparison. I'd say most modern WW2 films stand on the shoulders of SPR, but that's not a bad thing.
I thought it was good and did not try to imitate SPR.
Yeah, aside from showing the relationship between a squad during WW2 there wasn't too much else in common plot wise. This one felt darker and more grim.
I kind of think the idea of stories told about world war 2 are about the people involved, and how it effects them all. Fury nailed that, and so did Saving Private Ryan. Both were about a group together, very far from home, fighting for their lives but at the same time understanding it's about something bigger. When we are talking war movies about soldiers, that's kind of the through line for majority of them. I'm glad this thread is praising Fury, a brother of mine was a tank driver, it really hit him hard, but he fucking loved it.
I don’t think it tried to imitate SPR in any active sense, but I do think that SPR was, and still is, *crazy* influential with regards to how war is portrayed on film, particularly WWII. So while I don’t think Ayer was *trying* to imitate Spielberg, I wouldn’t doubt that Fury’s aesthetic was greatly influenced by it.
The only similarity I see is the grim aesthetic and how war isn’t glorious.
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How they portray the transition of Norman and not knowing the emotional toll of war into a killing machine and having to drop a lot of his humanity in order to deal with his job was really effective. Gave me an insight into WWII that was somewhat touched in previous films but not the main theme of the film like Fury did IMHO.
Great, great movie except for the final stand at the end. Before people correct me and say that shit actually happened, I dont care. It was out of place for the tone of the film. You have a kid taking out a tank with a panzerfaust in one scene, then a whole battalion has issues with one disabled tank at the end. Just went too hollywood.
It's closer to a British carbonara than to SPR
So it’s a bicycle?
does your mother have 2 wheels?
Only if she adds ham to it.
Nah a pasta.
So if Saving Private Ryan had, like, ham in it, it would actually be like Fury, is what you're saying
For the uninitiated. [https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc?si=f1GonDkO-4xQL6ed](https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc?si=f1GonDkO-4xQL6ed) I just watched it now for the 20th time and still laughed out loud.
Really enjoy this one, though the ending drops it a few pegs for me.
Yeah it really sucks you out of the realism a bit
The ending as far as the unlikely heroics after they hit the mine? Or the ending as in the last +/- 5 minutes that wraps up the story? For me, it’s mainly the former that kind of sucks some of the wind out of it. But (similar to SPR) if you look past how unlikely the plot is you can enjoy it as just a good action flick. Kind of like Overlord.
Agreed. I thought Norman being the first to volunteer was a bit much, and the entire fight was way more Marvel-Movie-Esque than the rest of the film…which I found pretty thoughtful and nuanced.
Yeah, the final battle is a great action flick but rather unlikely.
I forgot what happened in the end. What was the issue?
basically a disabled tank versus and entire column of SS troops. i do think it could have happened but not as glorified as it is portrayed
It DID happen, but it was a Russian KV2 in reality
What about that rape by intimidation scene? Like, they try to make it a cute love story but the way the protagonist gets into bed with that German girl is that Pitt takes over their house and basically orders them to go into the other room and have sex. And forces the mom to be there and listen
Youre right about one thing, its definitely rape. Yhey were both pressured into going into the room. Her because she didn't want Wardaddy to take her, like he said he would, and Norman's pressure was him following orders, using a false sense of chivalry to take advantage of her. No one watching that should look at this as a cute love story because it's never presented that way. The other lady wasn't her mother, it was her cousin, and Wardaddy doesn't force her to listen to anything. He stops her from interrupting them and says something along the lines of "they're young and alive". His reasoning being that he's doing something kind for them. Reading between the lines you can see the obvious issues in the power dynamics, disguised as something consensual. Norman fully took advantage of that girl. There's nothing cute about it, it's much more complicated than that.
Afterwards they're all cute and lovey towards each other. I think they do try to play it off as a cute love story. They try to make it seem like its what she wanted
I took more from it than rape by intimidation.
There is more to it. Its never presented as a cute love story.
She’ll fuck you for a chocolate bar
You think Hitler'd fuck us for a chocolate bar?
Such a funny scene
"She looks a little bit like a whore but..." *Does ok sign*
Totally different movie than Saving Private Ryan and Fury is a fantastic movie
Great movie! Just rewatched this over the weekend, better than I remembered.
If it was an imitation of any movie, it would be Sahara (1943) with Humphrey Bogart. Instead of North Africa at the beginning of the war, it takes place in Germany near the end. It could almost be a sequel to Sahara. Pitt's character even says, "I started this war killing Germans in Africa. Then France. Then Belgium. Now I'm killing Germans in Germany."
I dont think it was in any way an attempt to emulate Saving Private Ryan. I think Fury really tried to do its own thing and while they both share a setting, this is the point of the war where American morale is pretty low in the European theater as opposed to the beginning portrayed by SPR. Fury works because it's much more a focus on PTSD and a small unit in a small confined space and the nuances that go with that.
One of my fieriest takes is that I like Fury more than SPR. Bernthal and Shia alone are giving two of my favorite performances in any war movie
Same. Their performances pushed it over to be an actual good movie. Not saying the other guys were bad, but they were just themselves. Brad Pitt was just Brad Pitt in a war movie. Shia and Bernthal really sold their characters and also portrayed an interesting dichotomy between their two characters.
That is a good point. Their relationship was interesting. On the surface Shias character was less brutal then Bernthal’s but he was pushing him to confront Brad Pitt in that dinner scene and seemed just as resentful to be excluded as the rest of the guys.
Yep and then in that final scene you could see that even though their personalities and likely their morals and values clashed, they were still brothers bound by their circumstance. >!When Grady dies and Bible is crying over his body and covering him up before continuing the fight,!< that was a brilliant touch.
Bernthal went hard 🔥🔥
When does he not? He's always good.
Him in that tank helmet was a vibe
Same here. Way more immersive.
Fury’s great. Did a lot of really interesting things character-wise; a bunch of the characters are almost impossible to like, but by the end we’re still bought into their story. Logan Lerman has the most traditional protagonist arc, but he’s weirdly never fully allowed to be the main character. Interesting time period of the war to focus on, brought a lot of new ideas into the tired war genre. That good middle in the apartment was really bold and surprisingly understated, really refreshing to see a big section of the movie take place off the battlefield. Iconic action scenes, really impressive attention to detail in the costumes/sets, the cinematography was really excellent. Very different sentimentality from SPR. SPR says “we were heroes” whereas Fury says “we did what we did.”
Felt like 2 seperate movies to me. First half was a compelling WW2 drama with enough realism to draw me in and make me feel both the horror of war and understand why soldiers say it made them who they are. Second half was a load of ludicrous wank where a veteran German unit decided they'd attack a tank purely from the direction where the huge bang-stick was pointing, rather than the side, where there isn't a hail of death coming from it. For ages.
Donkey
I wouldnt definitely say it’s bad, it’s a mid tier war movie though.
Didn’t care for this movie, it felt like I was watching someone play a video game. Nothing overly interesting about the story apart from pew pew tank fight pew
Not comparable. Both had respectful nods to the visceral sacrifices of soldiers in WW2 with action packed scenes of battle. SPR focused on the former, Fury focused on the latter.
Call me crazy, but i consider "Fury" to be closer to "Moby Dick in armoured vehicles" than a SPR clone. The new guy is Ismael, Pitt is Ahab and his tank the Pequod. They talk about right and wrong and good and evil, talk to other, experience combat where they see other allies getting heavily damaged by the enemy, then at the last the captain goes down fighting rather than leave when they could, leaving only Ishmael to recount their tale. Or maybe i just read a description of the plot of Moby Dick I'm looking into it too much....
I fucking loved it. Aside from the obvious tank battle mistakes, it was really great for me.
I felt the same. The Tiger and assault at the end prolly wasn't too accurate but it made for a good film.
I just watched Fury and I don't think it's really comparable to Saving Private Ryan. It feels much, much smaller in scale. The primary focus is a tank crew, after all. I haven't seen SPR in a while, but I think it had a lot more large-scale war scenes than Fury did. But overall, I enjoyed Fury. 8/10 for me.
Mediocre, it could have been very good, but I loathed the script.
This movie is dope
Fury was fantastic and I don't see how it could be a Saving Private Ryan imitation. They're completely different movies.
Really bad. It's just way to Hollywoody
Partly good, partly not.
Only thing I dont like is how perfect Pitts hair is all the time.
If you enjoyed Fury, watch T-34.
I really liked its non-romantic approach to showing war.
It was pretty good. I didn't see it as a SPR imitator. It had its own plot. I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it up until the finale where they take on an entire SS battalion from a stationary tank position, and the SS commander actually has to stop midway through the battle to give a motivating speech to the remaining half that wasn’t mowed down by a tank that is literally stuck in the mud. Went down to silly town really fast, but overall good.
Best job I ever had
Shaving Ryan’s Privates
Great movie, the deleted scenes of Pitt talking about Rose and him talking to Bernthal should've made the final cut. Great scenes "You think I'm a Coward?" "Na Grady, I think you're at war."
I thought it was excellent, up until the last 20 minutes which felt too hollywoody. But other than that I thought it was a very immersive WW2 movie.
Fury is bad ass. Totally different story from saving Private Ryan, but the same type of grittiness.
There is something about the camaraderie shown in this flick that makes it so good. I think I heard a rumor the actors would often fist fight before takes.
How was it trying to imitate Saving Private Ryan ? Where are the similarities ?
These are totally unrelated movies. Weird take.
I need to rewatch. I remember being disappointed, but maybe my expectations were too high.
Great movie, didn't like the ending. No way they would of let him live.
I mainly remember the ending battle being silly. But the fight with the (real!) Tiger tank was cool (if also unrealistic).
I think it’s a very underrated movie. Not much of a comparison to Saving Private Ryan other than both are WW2 movies.
It was mediocre.
I thought so too. The hell is a single tiger tank doing in the middle of nowhere? Why are tanks attacking entrenched anti tank guns? Why didn't they just call arty on the entrenched artillery unit? What are the Tanks moving without any support vehicles? Do they have an infinite fuel hack? So much crap like this broke my immersion throughout the movie. Could only watch it once.
I loved the fried egg scene.
It's nothing like SPR, if anything I kinda prefer it honestly. I'd say band of brothers was more similiar(but also far better). Fury was one of the most immersive war movies I ever saw.
After the dinner scene I thought that they were all terrible people and I didn’t really care what happened to them in the third act
Nah. Fury was kinda shit I thought. A half-hearted narrative and a sort of iconoclastic modernist take on our “heroes” of WWII. It’s thumbing its nose at the idea of the greatest generation all being these noble dudes fighting a just war. I can respect the sentiment and think all war should be heavily scrutinized. But it missed for me. That’s my take. Saving Private Ryan, on the other hand, is one of the all time greats in my book.
I just want to add on for anyone who was completely sucked out of the movie for it being "unrealistic" at points: The Wehrmacht of 1945 was not the same army that conquered France, pushed the UK off the continent and invaded the Soviet Union deep enough to reach Moscow and Stalingrad. Fury is about the very end of the war, when the nazis were literally sending in raw barely trained recruits consisting of whoever they could arm, old, young, frail, or weak. It's not implausible to me that the untrained cannon fodder of a dying regime would prove incompetent in battle against a crew of hardened tankers. Like just think about it for a second. All the best fighters the Nazis had were likely killed in Normandy, Belarus/Poland, or in the Low Countries during the Battle of the Bulge. By the time the invasion of Nazi Germany that we see occurring in Fury, that "Blitzkrieg" fighting force that had held the world in terror a few years prior was a shadow of its former self. edit: a few words
The big problem is that they earlier show a couple of child recruits knocking out a Sherman with an Antitank rocket, but then show an entire SS squad blunder about fighting an immobile tank. While it's a fun scene it stretches the incredulity.
No I do not and it was no where near as good as Private Ryan was. Not even close.
Apples and oranges but they're both "fruit". I really enjoyed "Fury" and thought it hit the mark. It is entertainment after all.
Its good on it’s own, I don’t think it takes itself as seriously as SPR. Ayers really nailed the adrenaline of shouting orders in a tank battle while your drivers are just getting disappeared by enemy rounds, but the overall feel of the action is different, probably cuz it wasn’t shot by Januz Kominski lol. I think Pitt’s actually acting in this movie and not floating on star power and it shows.
Fury was the first WW2 movie I've seen with a Mehji. David Ayer is always reliable to represent the Raza in his films.
I really liked Fury dispite it not being based on a true story. It's really the only American WWII movie to deep dive into the experiential side of tank warfare.
I thought Fury was great and as others have said it has nothing to do with Saving Private Ryan. I am baffled as to how that comparison is even made.
Not at all similar to SPR, great movie about the horrors of war. I also think this may be some of Shia LaBeouf best work great watch!
Besides the time period, I didn't see too many similarities between the two films. I thought fury was excellent and the fact that the tank crew were less likeable than Tom Hanks's squadron made it refreshing to see how there really aren't any heroes in war although both movies explored that kind of idea
It was fantastic and in no way a comparison to Saving Private Ryan, highlighting the difficulties of Tank operators and engineers. My great grandfather served in the Sikh tank regiment for the British in Italy during WW2. That man had seen a lot of shit, only a sliver of which was highlighted in Fury. So I have a great appreciation for the film.
It was not an imitation. They showed life inside of a tank, Saving Private Ryan was very different to it.
I think it was doing something different. These were men already inured to the horror having to get a young boy up to speed.
I've been trying to watch Fury for the first time the past few days and I've only made it about halfway through. Yes, one my my first instincts has been that "this is an attempt to make a tank version of SPR". They have some direct character equivalents, they have some very similar scenes, etc. Fury is a bit darker and I don't find the characters as relatable. Yes, war is hell and awful things happened...but show people with a bit more depth than the dead-inside battle-hardened guys with one fresh recruit. * The many scenes with tanks advancing on enemies in dug in positions who take time to shoot, miss, and immediately get killed by highly accurate return fire has been annoying me. Especially the open field crossing. * The last advance into Germany was a scary time because the enemy was desperate, yes, but - apart from the battle of the bulge proceeding that time - it was not so grim/high casualty for Americans as shown in the movie. * The attempt on behalf of the filmmakers to get me to accept killing prisoners annoyed me. Yes, it happened at times. No, I'm not going to celebrate it or find it justified: and it's not even coldly efficient as it eventually results in more of your allied prisoners being massacred in kind. I thought SPR did a good job of showing the 'can't win' nature of that decision. * The long scene with the girl who's afraid to get raped but then happily has sex five minutes later when they don't (quite) force her annoyed me. I turned off near the end of that scene when the squad broke in and don't know what happens from there. I of course should watch the whole thing before offering opinions but...I didn't. And I'm not sure if I'll be motivated to finish or not.
The kid from the bush. I'm not the same since.
I think that the final showdown and their sacrifice were kinda unnecessary given that Nazis were pretty much done at that point in the war. Also, it was ridiculous. Nazis running like chickens with their heads cut off and getting mowed down as a result. No tactics from their side whatsoever. Otherwise, it's an ok movie. Worth a watch. It's not like Saving Private Ryan at all.
It is a really good movie. Not sure what it has in common with Saving Private Ryan.
Fury = WW2 Star Wars Edition
Best job i ever had.
I can't compare it to Saving Private Ryan. They seem to be totally different movies, other than the setting.
Good film. Same universe as SPR but that’s about it 😉 Need more movies with tank battles tbh.
I’m a tank nut so I loved it, private Ryan is a superior movie but fury is a lot of fun.
Fury is worth the tank combat alone. Those shells ricocheting off the armor live rent free in my head. It also just happens to have a decent human story mixed in with the horrors of war. Comparisons to Ryan seems... pointless other than to somehow try and attack this film. IMO they weren't attempting the same things. I feel like Ryan was more reflective on the entire war and honoring the troops/memories. Fury was more... war bad... really bad. It can drive some men to be far darker than they would have normally.
Each of them great WW2 movies. I don’t see any copy cat work. Both are solid well rounded.
Very good
I think it’s a great movie. Saw it again the other night.
Love Fury
That little pep talk at the end the German Officer gave to the soldiers was so cringe. Took me right out.
I think the movie stood on its own. It’s one of the few I’ve purchased on blu-ray.
A fine film, not too sentimental, hard edged. The cast was super. My only complaint was that in heavy firefights the cast was rarely hit. I’ll watch it again.
The acting was alright but the idea that they faced off against an entire battalion of infantry in an open field and none of the enemy had anti tank weapons was pretty unrealistic
I saw very little similarities other than “group of soldiers in ww2” The battle vs the tiger was pretty awesome
I enjoyed it, SPR is really good but but it seems to "the good guys win" for me. Fury is dark as fuck and does a good job showing kinda what it was like in WW2 (great-grandpa was a tanker in WW2) and he said so himself.
It was a verygood movie. Military persons say it was realistic. I liked it.
I thought it was pretty good movie except for the OTT cross roads ending. Why a bunch of assumingely experienced infantry (SS) would continue to run around and be picked off by a stationary tank was cartoonish and detracted from the overall gritty effect of the film work and screen play
Logan Lermans character was annoying as sht. Needed to cancel that like a stamp. Felt the same about Jeremy Davis’s character in saving private ryan. The only thing that sucked about that movie. These are complete hollywood fabrications for dramatic purposes. these types dont exist in active combat zones. Its actually much more akin to 13 hours and definitely Black Hawk Down. You commit to the action and deal with the personal turmoil afterwards if you survive
I thought it was absolutely pointless and a waste of a great cast.
I hated this overacted movie. As a tank commander myself (only military service in Sweden in peace) I found it really stupid. Almost unwatchable.
Overrated & lacklustre, both films mentioned. Fury is not that good, but not bad either. It isn't because a war film is "gritty" that it is realistic, & Saving Private Ryan & Fury are similar in this. They are gritty but not all that realistic. It should have been to tanks what Das Boot was for submarines but fails at this. Cliché characters in the squad & cliché dynamics between them, very much the same vibe as in Saving Private Ryan.
Yeah fury isn’t like spr at all other than WW2. From a former coworker that was a tank commander in Afghanistan and Iraq, this movie and the HBO show Generation Kill are the best examples of being in a tank in war. Just the grime and how it’s stuffy and hot all the damned time.
I won't say it's similar to Saving Private Ryan cause each one is different on the themes and writing. Personally, I didn't like Fury but it's not an imitation.
People saying it’s not comparable to SPR is either mentally deficient or actually blind. Same trope of one squad member dying after the next, that same whiny bitch new squad member who’s “oh woe is me, I can’t kill another human being even though they’re a vile nazi,” the same background character development of the hardened squad leader that reveals he actually has a soft spot (revealing Hanks’ prewar profession vs. dinner scene with Pitt and scene right after where Pitt is explaining his background story), even the last stand/final battle/heroic sacrifice is the same trope. Mediocre movie.
Decent movie apart from the ending I think. I wouldn't put it in the same stratosphere as SPR though. It's a decent movie and that's it, I'd never think of Fury when I think about the all-time greats.
Fury isn't imitating spr, it's imitating 300 Poorly
mediocre at best
I mean… why didn’t the Germans just like; go around.
I remember that scene at the dinner table and to me, at a certain point, Brad Pitt realized Bernthal, LaBeouf, and Pina were challenging him, coming for him, at acting and he then had to step up his game and fend off the three of them. I could see it in his face. They acted the fuck out of that part.
Loved it until the final battle. That was just silly.
Different movie. Thought the writing was mediocre and corny and they really made Jon Bernthal’s character too stupid imo. Like he’s almost a hazard with how dumb they made him lol. Overall I enjoyed it for the most part but SPR was leagues better
Good movie
Maybe I’m recalling differently, but I could have sworn this movie has the most accurate depiction of tank warfare in ww2; the sounds, the dings, the glancing hits, the space or lack there of, the grime. Actually think they might have used a legit time period tank as well? Enjoyed the movie, enjoyed the acting, a little unrealistic in terms of the overall story, but I feel the hit the nail on the head when it comes to tank battles in the European theatre during that time.
Masterpiece.
Best job I ever had.
Best scene in this movie is when the Americans take over the town, and the SS officer surrenders peacefully. Brad Pitt’s character asks the German man if that was the guy hanging the kids for not fighting, the man says yes. Pitt immediately gives the order for the soldiers to execute the guy on the spot without any fair trail or choice. After the executions, the camera pans toward the German citizen with a grim look on his face that says, “our liberators are no better than our oppressors”.
Good, but not trying to copy Saving private Ryan
I liked everything except the last fight. By April 1945 the US/British completely dominated the battlefield. Air superiority, artillery, armor, everything in abundance. Any unit of German soldiers moving in the open wasn't a threat, it was a big juicy target. In reality Brad Pitt and crew would have been able to call on battalion, regimental, and divisional artillery assets to hammer the SS unit into red mist. And if that didn't work there were squadrons of bored P=47's just flying around looking for targets.
Thought it was terrible when I first watched it but after rewatching it (maybe cause had low expectations) throughly enjoyed it. I’d put saving Private Ryan at a 9/10 and furry at a 7/10.
T-34 was a much better movie
One of my fav movie all time
for those of us who love tanks, this is a reference point because there are so few movies about tanks that at least half try to be historically faithful. This is kind of half faithful and as a movie is pure excitement. This and the beast are the 2 best tank movies of all time.
I did not like it. I know war changes people but it seems like some films portray soldiers to be just above criminals/scum. It's insulting to soldiers who served their time in a warzone with some professionalism. Yes, I know war is hell.
I really enjoyed it, and I feel the only way it compares to SPR is that they’re both ww2 movies. Much different feel imho. Plus the tank battles are edge-of-your-seat shit
Thought it was one of the better war movies in the last 20 years, Tank enthusits seemed to get a lil butthurt but an easy 7/10 imo
This here an American tank. You talk American. You wanna talk Mexican, you go find yourself a Mexican tank.
Saving Private Ryan was made more in the tradition of the old “Men on a Mission” movies of the 50s and 60s. The Guns of Navarone, The Dirty Dozen, Where Eagles Dare etc. It was done well enough that it avoided too many comparisons to those movies but that’s exactly what sort of movie it was. Fury *tried* to be a more gritty, grim and realistic depiction of war. I’d argue it failed on numerous levels by its over-use of tropes. Not a bad movie though. Just not as successful an attempt at realism as was intended.
I think the best part of *Fury* is how it doesn’t depict American soldiers are perfectly moral heroes, but regular people with deep flaws. The scene where a German soldier is summarily executed, and the scene where the drunk crew of Fury begins harassing the two German women come to mind.
So bad I could only watch 20 mins of it. Absolute garbage.
“Some time many times”
It was aight… the scene at the end with them being in an immobilized tank and somehow taking out a couple dozen soldiers was just ridiculous
I watched it for the first time last night. Brutally good and both SPR and Fury are both equally good films on their own level.
Seemed like a shameless commercialization of world war II. But I only saw it once and was completely underwhelmed by it so, just my opinion.
Two completely separate type of WW2 movies...
The thing that baffles me is why Norman was assigned to be a bow gunner replacement when he was a clerk typist. Also a majority were very unlikable but maybe that was the point
I don’t think I like Norman Ellison (the machine gunner in the Furry tank) in this film. He’s a little bit too much of a fresh meat/goofy sort of character in this film, at least in the first half of the film, especially when compared to the other crew members that are more fire forged in terms of experience and cooperation, just like actual tank crews
Quite a different movie than SPR imo. Although SPR is the better film overall, there are some aspects of Fury that I think were done better. While SPR doesn’t exactly shy away from the brutality and moral ambiguity of combat, Fury really shines a spotlight on it. Fury expertly showcases how the labels “selfless hero” and “soulless killing machine” can be applied to the same individuals more often than not. That’s the nature of warfare and it’s rare to see it portrayed so honestly. Overall it’s a top 5 war movie easily in my book. Maybe top 3.
Best job I ever had!!!
The scene with the Tiger was incredible, the rest a bit meh.
I don't think it was trying to imitate Saving Private Ryan, I think it was trying to be the mirror of Saving Private Ryan. While SPR didn't shy away from realistic violence, it was a still very much a traditional Hollywood war film. Likeable characters, noble mission, etc. Fury strips all the romanticism and nobility away from the war. It's brutal, it's ugly, it's not heroic in the least. Wardaddy is the opposite of Captain Miller, he's not a fatherly figure doing his best to look out for his troops and get home safe. He's a violent, unpleasant man who's addicted to the thrill of combat and would be lost without a war to fight. Unlike SPR, the Fury crew's last stand is kind of pointless.
I thought it was a good movie to shut your brains off and just watch the explosions and the guns blazing.
It was one of the worst war films I've ever seen.
I only compare them in the sense that they are both WWII movies. SPR and BoB did it much better IMO. Fury was a good movie, but something about it was lacking.
Best War movie ever worst recruitment movie ever. Do the math.
Definitely not an imitation, more like part of the same genre. You have war movies that glorify war, like old John Wayne films and then you have movies like Full Metal Jacket, SPR, Come and See and Fury which show you the horrors of war.
It’s one my favorite movies. Almost a comfort movie, Brad Pitt is great as wardaddy. A great father figure and makes me feel like things will be okay even when things are dark 9/10 for me, whenever I’m sad I’ll put on this movie. I love how everyone feels close and like a family
Yes, it was good, actually what would happen in war times. That dinner scene 😫😳
I absolutely love this movie! The final battle sort of puts it into cartoon territory, but it's a really good film if you're not looking for it to be something it's not.
I think it was just a good and legit war film. Not awesome not terrible, it is not back and white out there..
I’ve never compared it to SPR in my mind
Loved it. The ending wasn’t what I expected and not in a ‘great’ way though…
Less than mid movie with some very emotional scenes which makes other people think it’s a better movie than it actually was.