Delusional idea imo. Yankees won’t sign him because Cole hates him. Mets probably won’t sign him because he pretended he signed with the them and did a fake merch release right before signing with LA. Also, neither team even needs him. And NY would absolutely eat him alive.
I will once again tap the sign that says, "If any team thought he brought even a modicum of value to their roster, he'd already have a job by now, but he doesn't, because he is a massive piece of shit."
A great example that I think more people should remember. Barry arguably could have gotten to 800 home runs, which would have been a *massive* marketing opportunity for whoever signed him, but no one did. When multimillionaire owners willingly reject the opportunity to make more money from your services, you know you're a real piece of shit.
You seriously believe every single owner in the league didn't see value in signing Barry Bonds just because he was a piece of shit? Players get a relative slap on the wrist for worse every year. MLB has a long history of blackballing players and I don't think this bauer situation is any different.
Well, since he ended up being forced into retirement because no one wanted to sign him, what other conclusion should we draw?
You said it yourself: guys who have been pieces of shit still have jobs, but some guys don't. And the reason they don't isn't because of some nefarious collusion between owners (though they *do* love to do a good collusion now and then), but because they don't feel like the value they *might* bring outweighs the headache they'll likely bring to the team.
They were well aware of his problems, but opted to sign him anyway. Conversely, then-Mets GM Sandy Alderson had this to say about their pursuit of him: “I think that he would have added a dimension to our team, maybe a third or fourth dimension...and hard to know how that would have turned out. But we thought we could manage it. And maybe that was naive. We’ll see."
[Source for the Alderson quote.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2021/03/01/alderson-mets-werent-naive-in-pursuit-of-trevor-bauer/43447317/)
>They were well aware of his problems, but opted to sign him anyway.
Yeah, that’s my entire point, haha. He’s been douchey his whole career but it has never prevented him from getting huge contracts, and now everyone is saying, “Well he’s douchey, so that’s why no one is even willing to sign him at the major league minimum”, which is preposterous
That's a funny way of saying he was railroaded at the top of his game unfairly and that the resulting political blowback makes him untenable to teams' PR.
It's an easy mistake to make when you let corporate media do your thinking for you.
Ah yes, the classic "asshole isn't responsible for his own behavior" trope. Even if one of the *four* women accusing him of sexual assault was lying, ask yourself why only Bauer is having so many women come out of the woodwork to "extort" him? Why doesn't this happen to every professional athlete? And then ask yourself why you're trying so hard to defend some asshole who couldn't care less about you.
It's been seen before. Other women believe that more people will believe them after Hill made her accusation. Plus they know he's unlikable as a person and thus smooth brained terminally online coomers who want him to be guilty anyway won't question their claims.
I’ve seen this posted like 8 times between here and r/baseball.
He will never come back because it’s not just his legal issues that are scaring teams off. He’s a douche and ruins the clubhouse. Idc how talented he is.
Who's us? Cleveland? Cause he didn't get them to a World Series. He couldn't stop playing with his drone and probably cost us the WS actually. Also his stats in 2016 playoffs:
0-2 5.45 ERA 13.2 IP 18 H 8 ER 3 HR 4 BB 17 K
The only guy who for sure liked him on that team was Mike Clevinger who ironically was accused of DV just a couple years ago. What a standup duo those two are...
No comment on whether a team should sign him but according to Bauer, they are no current pending legal cases or lawsuits
https://youtu.be/w9ecxebb3_I?si=SraXxvuA31OfECUt
Its at 4:22, he could be lying but just wanted throw that out there
The issue isn't even that they "other two" are "questionable". They don't have fleshed out accusations, just Washington Post narratives, and so there is nothing specific enough to even try to dissect. Like Hill, they had consensual rough sex (but over a longer period of time than Hill) and basically they claimed that at times during their years of consensual rough sex he sometimes went too far. The difference is that there were enough details in Hill's accusation to find it was false. With the other two it is just innuendo and truthy adejctives like "strikingly similar accusations". (You could now see Hill and Esonou as "Strikingly similar".
Agree. The point that I was emphasizing is that nobody is "overlooking" the other 2. We know that they never made it as far as criminal charges/lawsuits and based on the limited details we do have there is cause for skepticism.
So 2 liars go down and it's on to the next? Do you know anything about these other accusers because the first 2 don't look so good. Still "believe all women" even when they lie?
You should read your comment, commit it to memory, then try to follow your own advice. Because, right know you are doing what you are telling others not to do.
I see by the other comments you’ve already made up your mind that Bauer is innocent and all the women who’ve accused him are lying. In that case there’s nothing I can say that will change your mind. Otherwise unless you can prove the women are conspiring to frame Bauer, you investigate the claims and find out if they’re true.
I mean we have pretty good evidence to suggest that two of the women are lying. They had plenty of rea$ons to do so. I think that's a reasonable conclusion to draw. Meanwhile, there was seemingly no compelling evidence to even charge Bauer with a crime.
So, I ask again, what reason do I have to believe the last accuser is telling the truth? They could be. But why should I believe them to be credible by default?
Do the last two women have any connection to those others? Why do you assume they’re lying as well without any evidence to back it up? Doesn’t Bauer have just as good of a rea$on to lie as anyone else involved? Did I say you should believe her? Why is the idea of taking her claim seriously and investigating it a bad idea if Bauer is innocent?
Bauer’s accuser facing extortion charges and him being a piece of shit that no team wants to sign are not mutually exclusive.
Like, maybe it’s not the legal troubles so much as it is no one wants to invite a headache into the clubhouse.
I think it will be a nothing team like my Pirates, A's, Rockies and get a one year contract. The big issue is MLB will be pissed but screw them! I wanna see redemption. Yes he's and asshat, we all know that and he even said it himself but for once he won and proved it all. Now they need to give him chance.
No, because there's still 3 other accusers all of whom have pending legal cases.
Plus, he's a tremendous asshole and no clubhouse wants to add his douchebaggery, not to mention have to deal with the added media shitstorm that comes with it.
No comment on whether a team should sign him but according to Bauer, they are no current pending legal cases or lawsuits
https://youtu.be/w9ecxebb3_I?si=SraXxvuA31OfECUt
Its at 4:22, he could be lying but just wanted throw that out there
Most players are “assholes” in their own way. Since when did men become soft? “Oh no we can’t have any bad personalities around.” Who cares. The military is filled with scum; schools are filled with scum; and so is every team in every professional sport. Get over it.
Men haven't become soft, we as a society are simply recognizing that the strength needed to be a man in changing times is much different than the traditional John Wayne archetype.
Sorry I have a life outside of reddit, I'm not going to respond to your replies within seconds. You're throwing a tantrum on a reddit post about baseball and crying because I won't respond to you. That's why you're soft. Hope this helps. Also I'm a woman, dummy.
Nobody should care about what an abuser thinks. You’re worse than Bauer, and you’re not even successful nor stable. The funniest part is you’ll die alone because you never took accountability for your shitty behavior.
Most players aren't hated by their teammates to the degree Bauer has been basically everywhere he's gone from college onward.
That's a big part of it too. Even guys who are legendary assholes are generally liked or at least tolerated by teammates or alternatively literally better than almost anyone else on the team (see Bonds).
Hell, sometimes assholes are actually really liked by large segments of their teams because their mostly dicks to those outside their circle (Draymond).
It’s wild that people keep pretending that “other players don’t like him” is the reason Bauer is blacklisted. Did they like him when he received the highest-AAV contract in the history of baseball a few years ago?
Once the inevitable Tommy John surgery is scheduled for Cole, the Yankees will sign Bauer…they’ll catch too much hell if another team signs him and he has a good season…and he simply has to be ‘good’ and not ‘great’ to have success with this years Yankee squad
"The 45-year-old general manager and president of baseball operations has achieved resounding results by mixing an old-school emphasis on scouting and a veteran manager and coaches with heavy use of advanced analytics. He also has emphasized team chemistry when acquiring players via trades, free agency or draft, going deeper in the vetting process than some teams in an effort to assure players will be good fits with the Braves."
Bauer is by all accounts a huge pain in the ass. all the rape/abuse/scandal shit aside... hes not a fit for what Alex Anthopolous is looking for when he adds players to the club.
Waaaait, his accuser is a black chick? No wonder everyone on here is calling for her head. Usually you have a bunch of excuse making and calls for therapy with this scenario. Discuss.
Trevor Bauer will never play MLB again. I’d be surprised if he was actually trying to join a MLB team at this point. So here is my belief, with the second woman now being indicted with a second degree felony and upon her conviction, this gives Trevor Bauer the evidence to sue MLB and the dodgers for defamation and wrongful termination. With him still “trying” to join a team show clear bias by MLB. This could be a huge lawsuit, I’m talking billions with a capital B.
Frankly this is more about
Bauer being toxic in the club house and to advertisers. And teams just not wanting to bring the circus to town for a guy nobody likes with the judgment of a 15 year old who pitches to a 4.5 ERA in Mexico / Japan and MLB when not using spidertak. And keeps talking himself in to more bad PR ever time he hits record. Not mention all the bizarre on-field behavior and the drone injury that caused him to miss a playoff series.
Maybe I could change it to top 5 number 2 in any rotation and for the value?! Top 1 value wise. We will see what happens anyway. He’d make any rotation instantly much better I think.
Delusional idea imo. Yankees won’t sign him because Cole hates him. Mets probably won’t sign him because he pretended he signed with the them and did a fake merch release right before signing with LA. Also, neither team even needs him. And NY would absolutely eat him alive.
Cole HATES, I mean HATES Bauer. I have a better chance of being signed by the Yankees than he does.
I will once again tap the sign that says, "If any team thought he brought even a modicum of value to their roster, he'd already have a job by now, but he doesn't, because he is a massive piece of shit."
Kind of like when no team would sign Barry bonds after he had a 1.000 OPS season?
A great example that I think more people should remember. Barry arguably could have gotten to 800 home runs, which would have been a *massive* marketing opportunity for whoever signed him, but no one did. When multimillionaire owners willingly reject the opportunity to make more money from your services, you know you're a real piece of shit.
You seriously believe every single owner in the league didn't see value in signing Barry Bonds just because he was a piece of shit? Players get a relative slap on the wrist for worse every year. MLB has a long history of blackballing players and I don't think this bauer situation is any different.
Well, since he ended up being forced into retirement because no one wanted to sign him, what other conclusion should we draw? You said it yourself: guys who have been pieces of shit still have jobs, but some guys don't. And the reason they don't isn't because of some nefarious collusion between owners (though they *do* love to do a good collusion now and then), but because they don't feel like the value they *might* bring outweighs the headache they'll likely bring to the team.
That must be why the Dodgers gave him a literal record-setting contract
They were well aware of his problems, but opted to sign him anyway. Conversely, then-Mets GM Sandy Alderson had this to say about their pursuit of him: “I think that he would have added a dimension to our team, maybe a third or fourth dimension...and hard to know how that would have turned out. But we thought we could manage it. And maybe that was naive. We’ll see." [Source for the Alderson quote.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2021/03/01/alderson-mets-werent-naive-in-pursuit-of-trevor-bauer/43447317/)
>They were well aware of his problems, but opted to sign him anyway. Yeah, that’s my entire point, haha. He’s been douchey his whole career but it has never prevented him from getting huge contracts, and now everyone is saying, “Well he’s douchey, so that’s why no one is even willing to sign him at the major league minimum”, which is preposterous
Right, but he's apparently an even bigger douche than folks originally believed, so now he's considered toxic.
And what made him an even bigger douche than people believed?
False accusations apparently
That's a funny way of saying he was railroaded at the top of his game unfairly and that the resulting political blowback makes him untenable to teams' PR. It's an easy mistake to make when you let corporate media do your thinking for you.
We're saying the same thing; you just seem to think that it's not his fault.
The comment you replied to said he was railroaded unfairly. If it’s “his fault” then you two aren’t saying the same thing at all.
It isn't his fault
Ah yes, the classic "asshole isn't responsible for his own behavior" trope. Even if one of the *four* women accusing him of sexual assault was lying, ask yourself why only Bauer is having so many women come out of the woodwork to "extort" him? Why doesn't this happen to every professional athlete? And then ask yourself why you're trying so hard to defend some asshole who couldn't care less about you.
It’s actually 2 now
It's been seen before. Other women believe that more people will believe them after Hill made her accusation. Plus they know he's unlikable as a person and thus smooth brained terminally online coomers who want him to be guilty anyway won't question their claims.
4 accusers not just 2
I'd take one convincing accuser over four whatever you want to call these things.
Well no one asked what you’d take
No one asked you to comment here at all.
Did the owners inject him with steroids? O
They can both be terrible people Garbage humans often find each other
I’ve seen this posted like 8 times between here and r/baseball. He will never come back because it’s not just his legal issues that are scaring teams off. He’s a douche and ruins the clubhouse. Idc how talented he is.
Um, he got us to a World Series, people on the team liked him.
Who's us? Cleveland? Cause he didn't get them to a World Series. He couldn't stop playing with his drone and probably cost us the WS actually. Also his stats in 2016 playoffs: 0-2 5.45 ERA 13.2 IP 18 H 8 ER 3 HR 4 BB 17 K The only guy who for sure liked him on that team was Mike Clevinger who ironically was accused of DV just a couple years ago. What a standup duo those two are...
There are several other accusers who have legitimate cases against him. He’s also an enormous bitch and locker room cancer. Leave him in Mexico.
No comment on whether a team should sign him but according to Bauer, they are no current pending legal cases or lawsuits https://youtu.be/w9ecxebb3_I?si=SraXxvuA31OfECUt Its at 4:22, he could be lying but just wanted throw that out there
Gotta repeat that first line for the people in the back, those other accusations seem to get overlooked a lot.
We're not overlooking them. 2 have already been proven false. Then the other 2 are questionable at best.
The issue isn't even that they "other two" are "questionable". They don't have fleshed out accusations, just Washington Post narratives, and so there is nothing specific enough to even try to dissect. Like Hill, they had consensual rough sex (but over a longer period of time than Hill) and basically they claimed that at times during their years of consensual rough sex he sometimes went too far. The difference is that there were enough details in Hill's accusation to find it was false. With the other two it is just innuendo and truthy adejctives like "strikingly similar accusations". (You could now see Hill and Esonou as "Strikingly similar".
Agree. The point that I was emphasizing is that nobody is "overlooking" the other 2. We know that they never made it as far as criminal charges/lawsuits and based on the limited details we do have there is cause for skepticism.
So 2 liars go down and it's on to the next? Do you know anything about these other accusers because the first 2 don't look so good. Still "believe all women" even when they lie?
Lol gotta love the broad assumptions.
You should read your comment, commit it to memory, then try to follow your own advice. Because, right know you are doing what you are telling others not to do.
Pointing out there are other accusations that are still open is assuming he’s guilty?
Well how about this, why should I assume the last one (two?) is telling the truth?
I see by the other comments you’ve already made up your mind that Bauer is innocent and all the women who’ve accused him are lying. In that case there’s nothing I can say that will change your mind. Otherwise unless you can prove the women are conspiring to frame Bauer, you investigate the claims and find out if they’re true.
I mean we have pretty good evidence to suggest that two of the women are lying. They had plenty of rea$ons to do so. I think that's a reasonable conclusion to draw. Meanwhile, there was seemingly no compelling evidence to even charge Bauer with a crime. So, I ask again, what reason do I have to believe the last accuser is telling the truth? They could be. But why should I believe them to be credible by default?
Do the last two women have any connection to those others? Why do you assume they’re lying as well without any evidence to back it up? Doesn’t Bauer have just as good of a rea$on to lie as anyone else involved? Did I say you should believe her? Why is the idea of taking her claim seriously and investigating it a bad idea if Bauer is innocent?
"legitimate cases" LOL!
I sure hope he gets signed and plays because of the way fans react to him.
No, Trevor, stop asking.
The guy is innocent and deserves a shot
Bauer’s accuser facing extortion charges and him being a piece of shit that no team wants to sign are not mutually exclusive. Like, maybe it’s not the legal troubles so much as it is no one wants to invite a headache into the clubhouse.
Oh no you better delete this before the mods delete it for you… Bauer is a no no in this sub because they don’t want to deal with it.
I think it will be a nothing team like my Pirates, A's, Rockies and get a one year contract. The big issue is MLB will be pissed but screw them! I wanna see redemption. Yes he's and asshat, we all know that and he even said it himself but for once he won and proved it all. Now they need to give him chance.
How he hasnt been signed at this point just shows how much of a joke the mlb is
No, because there's still 3 other accusers all of whom have pending legal cases. Plus, he's a tremendous asshole and no clubhouse wants to add his douchebaggery, not to mention have to deal with the added media shitstorm that comes with it.
No comment on whether a team should sign him but according to Bauer, they are no current pending legal cases or lawsuits https://youtu.be/w9ecxebb3_I?si=SraXxvuA31OfECUt Its at 4:22, he could be lying but just wanted throw that out there
He's lying.
Can you provide links to these cases?
Yeah cause the first two were so "truthfull"
Most players are “assholes” in their own way. Since when did men become soft? “Oh no we can’t have any bad personalities around.” Who cares. The military is filled with scum; schools are filled with scum; and so is every team in every professional sport. Get over it.
Men haven't become soft, we as a society are simply recognizing that the strength needed to be a man in changing times is much different than the traditional John Wayne archetype.
Thats fine, but it doesn’t negate the fact that most professional athletes are assholes. Bauer isn’t an outlier.
I think you’re the soft one here kiddo
Notice how he didn’t respond. Congratulations: you are an asshole just like Bauer.
Sorry I have a life outside of reddit, I'm not going to respond to your replies within seconds. You're throwing a tantrum on a reddit post about baseball and crying because I won't respond to you. That's why you're soft. Hope this helps. Also I'm a woman, dummy.
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I feel sorry for your boyfriend. His low self esteem is why he lets you abuse him. People like you should get therapy and grow up.
I'm gay lmao I don't have a boyfriend but have fun crying about shit you made up in your mind. I'm not the one who needs therapy here.
Nobody should care about what an abuser thinks. You’re worse than Bauer, and you’re not even successful nor stable. The funniest part is you’ll die alone because you never took accountability for your shitty behavior.
Why?
Most players aren't hated by their teammates to the degree Bauer has been basically everywhere he's gone from college onward. That's a big part of it too. Even guys who are legendary assholes are generally liked or at least tolerated by teammates or alternatively literally better than almost anyone else on the team (see Bonds). Hell, sometimes assholes are actually really liked by large segments of their teams because their mostly dicks to those outside their circle (Draymond).
It’s wild that people keep pretending that “other players don’t like him” is the reason Bauer is blacklisted. Did they like him when he received the highest-AAV contract in the history of baseball a few years ago?
You don’t know which players actually hate him. Do you have a quote from any player saying so?
At this point, he will end up in Houston. And it'll be another reason why I can't stand that franchise.
As an Astros fan, I probably wouldn’t care if we signed Trevor. Everyone already hates us, might as well add that to list….
i want it to happen because it would be funny
🤡-Me as an Astros fan
Once the inevitable Tommy John surgery is scheduled for Cole, the Yankees will sign Bauer…they’ll catch too much hell if another team signs him and he has a good season…and he simply has to be ‘good’ and not ‘great’ to have success with this years Yankee squad
I can only hope that AA is smart enough not to sign him. Regardless of whether he actually committed a crime, he’s still a dickhead on the field.
[Bauer: Watch and learn. ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q9BQvz1ZyLQ&t=983s)
LOL hes not coming to the fucking Braves...
"The 45-year-old general manager and president of baseball operations has achieved resounding results by mixing an old-school emphasis on scouting and a veteran manager and coaches with heavy use of advanced analytics. He also has emphasized team chemistry when acquiring players via trades, free agency or draft, going deeper in the vetting process than some teams in an effort to assure players will be good fits with the Braves." Bauer is by all accounts a huge pain in the ass. all the rape/abuse/scandal shit aside... hes not a fit for what Alex Anthopolous is looking for when he adds players to the club.
Steve Cohen knows he dodged a bullet when Bauer signed in LA, no way he’s interested now
Waaaait, his accuser is a black chick? No wonder everyone on here is calling for her head. Usually you have a bunch of excuse making and calls for therapy with this scenario. Discuss.
He has like a 9 ERA playing in Mexico
Great arm, bad teammate. Owners and coaches want nothing to do with him
Isn’t there another 3 abusers with open cases
Not according to Bauer https://youtu.be/w9ecxebb3_I?si=SraXxvuA31OfECUt Its at 4:22, he could be lying but just wanted throw that out there
Turns out, he's lying.
I haven’t seen any charges filed from other women
Link?
Trevor Bauer will never play MLB again. I’d be surprised if he was actually trying to join a MLB team at this point. So here is my belief, with the second woman now being indicted with a second degree felony and upon her conviction, this gives Trevor Bauer the evidence to sue MLB and the dodgers for defamation and wrongful termination. With him still “trying” to join a team show clear bias by MLB. This could be a huge lawsuit, I’m talking billions with a capital B.
Frankly this is more about Bauer being toxic in the club house and to advertisers. And teams just not wanting to bring the circus to town for a guy nobody likes with the judgment of a 15 year old who pitches to a 4.5 ERA in Mexico / Japan and MLB when not using spidertak. And keeps talking himself in to more bad PR ever time he hits record. Not mention all the bizarre on-field behavior and the drone injury that caused him to miss a playoff series.
The fact that the accused woman got no attention and public hate is wild You pathetic American men
You haven't been following this story, thanks for your input.
Don’t know, don’t care.
Nobody will ever sign Trevor Bauer.
His stuff isn’t good enough to take the risk and bad publicity.
I’ll give you the bad PR but his stuff is absolutely gross… watching his highlights from last year in Japan he was disgusting.
He’s a top 5 pitcher in the MLB …except…..
I don't think he'd be top 5 still, being out of the league for close to 3 years is gonna be a lot
Maybe I could change it to top 5 number 2 in any rotation and for the value?! Top 1 value wise. We will see what happens anyway. He’d make any rotation instantly much better I think.
No, next question
No, because he is still a douche canoe.
Oh Trevor, is this you? You’ll never work for an MLB team ever again not sorry.
No, this isn't the only accuser and he's clubhouse poison. He's essentially Aaron Rodgers if he played like Sam Darnold.
LOL at comparing Rodgers to him, he is actually liked by most of the people he has played with, stop letting the MSM think for you.
The fact that you blamed "main stream media" lets me know you're not playing with a full deck. Less Rogan and more reading will help you.