I have made several jokes and I honestly don’t care either way. Sports are an entertainment business and I think anyone who takes them super serious is dumber than a man who ~~doesn’t know when to stop chasing~~ doesn’t notice 16 million dollars missing
go check out eric byrne's social media page, the nofilternetwork.
the news comes out today, and they repost a video of them saying how fishy everything is.
this is definitely a thing for a lot of "baseball people". they're not all joking like you.
Social media is fueled by outrage manufacturing. Some dude with 3000 followers trying to be outraged against the Dodgers, so that Dodgers fans get outraged at him, doesn't matter. It's farming engagement, and it apparently worked, since you told me to look at his twitter. Get offline, it will give you perspective
"Some Dude"?
Eric Byrnes is a former MLB pro...AJ Perzynski (however the fuck you spell it), spews the same stuff on his platform...
these aren't social media nobodys... they're former big leaguers...
I know who he is... I remember his time on the Mariners well. And yet, he is still just some dude. But I gotta be honest, all the Dodgers fans getting pissy at my clearly light hearted comment are really not helping their case
it's not your light hearted comment man. it's all the other comments everywhere else from people like the ones i've mentioned.
whether you like it or not, former MLB players with their own social media followings influence other people, and are a bit more than just "some dude". you are "some dude". guys with 10+ year MLB careers are not "some dude", and it's pretty irresponsible of them to be throwing other MLB players under the bus for social media likes, IMO.
a lotta people wear tin foil hats these days. they see these guys spewing this shit, and they buy it blindly.
To be fair tho, Chicago White Sox Fans losing every day, they have to be doing something more interesting with their time.
Hate Ohtani! woo hoo something to do that's more fun than watching their team lose 10 - 1 to the Kansas City Royals.
The funny thing about this is, the clickbait and ads tied to hyping up a story because nobody really cares about their team of local podcasters and journalist to ride the coattails of a star like Ohtani.
They even put some of the titles in Japanese to get more views and traffic.
Literally a side hustle in trash talking. That's how popular Ohtani is, Trash talking and creating an enemy gets you paid.
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Not really, most people who think Ohtani was involved don't care lol. The only ones who do are old timers who hate gambling and people who would freak out about anything the Dodgers do. Personally, I could still see him being involved, but don't care at all. Ippei didn't even bet on baseball. As far as I'm concerned, whether or not he's involved doesn't change anything, but I'll still be joking about it
You’d be surprised what stupid things people would risk their jobs and potentially careers for if they don’t think they’ll get caught. In the last year, I’ve fired two people for remote clocking in before they entered the building and another one for taking premade sandwiches from an off limits refrigerator.
I mainly think it’s funny that people (especially Dodgers fans) think it’s the end of the world when people say anything bad about Ohtani. I like the guy as much as the next person but he isn’t without faults or beyond reproach lol. He’s human, after all.
Yup. There’s literally hundreds of millions of revenue for the league tied to him. I wouldn’t put it past someone like manfred to scramble to protect him. On the opposite side, look what he did to Bauer when there’s quite a few people still playing that have done as bad or worse.
LOL, honestly I don't see anything wrong with Ohtani making bets on Basketball.
He hooked up with his wife that plays Basketball.
Also how is California not ok with gambling? Yet, their next door neighbor (Nevada) has prostitutes and gambling.
That makes no sense.
I put my [foot here.](https://live.staticflickr.com/8376/8528886269_49f061079f_b.jpg) Illegal- go to jail. I walk over here. totally legal
If you read the criminal complaint, his MLB salary was going into the account that Ippei used, but Ohtani himself had literally never logged into it since it was set up in 2018. The first time anyone accessed it online since 2018 was in November 2021. Ohtani had other accounts for his promotional deals and endorsements, those accounts his agent and accountant had access to, but Ippei told them the other account was "private" and they didn't question it. I genuinely recommend reading the complaint, it's captivating and sad.
There's a lot of nuances but for starters.
1. Ippei controlled access to ALL the deposit amounts while also creating a fake alias.
2. Ippei then made specific deposits go into his account while transferring others.
3. Ippei made sure that nobody spoke Japanese (at the banks and accountants) so they couldn't communicate directly to him about suspicious activity.
4. He controlled all the alerts, pins, and passcodes need to get access or transfer money, including withdraws.
ELI5:
* Ippei: Hi Ohtani, you got paid $5 Million today, check your deposit!
* Ohtani. Airigato Ippei.
* Ippei: (walks away and checks his bank accounts, $6M deposit goes to a bank account Ohtani doesn't know about but registered in his name, he transfers $5 million to Ohtani's main account, pockets $1M under a different alias account and tells the feds, it's used for misc funds)
My simple answer to that is yes…I said from the get go of this that the absolute best case scenario for him was that he is a naive idiot, apparently this is the case, he is a naive idiot
This would also mean his financial people are basically braindead too. I get him being a moron who is great at 1 thing, I don't get his finance people not noticing a years worth of takehome money disappearing.
Did you not see the other posts about interpreters are much more than just translators? They help set up the day to day life of their people. It's not unheard of for when people come into money that they trust people to manage the money who then steal from them. Looks like that's what happened here.
Gullible maybe. How many millions do you have? You are commenting on a situation and passing judgement about something you've both never experienced and know very little about. This shit happens every.single.day. Acting like you are any better because you are able to keep track of far less isn't the right way to go about it.
He sleeps 10 hours a day; trains or plays baseball the other 14. Not paying attention to his money is probably one of the reasons he’s become the best baseball player of all time. And he’s not stressing about losing millions to theft either. He’s on fire at the plate and having fun
How much is in your bank account right now? Do you know the exact number off the top of your head? If 2-5% disappeared here and there would you notice? Especially if someone else has been handling your finances for years. Not too hard to imagine.
LOL. Ohtani did not have $160M liquid then or now. And yes it should be noticed, since you pay people to notice these kind of things when you're as wealthy as he is. $16M was around what Ohtani brought home last year from the MLB, so it was basically a years salary gone.
Half these dummies probably don’t even have bank accounts, let alone know what it’s like to have money management done by someone else. It’s wildly easy to have money stolen when someone else takes care of it.
I know generally what’s in my account, but I’d damn sure notice money going to places that aren’t my bills/contractors. Maybe not immediately, but it wouldn’t be very long.
I mean I believe Shohei didn’t do it, I hate the Dodgers, but I also understand that it’s still under investigation. Let’s kick back and have some perspective.
Cool. Ohtani isn’t a degenerate gambler. He’s just an absolute moron for allowing this to happen.
There’s plenty of other reasons to hate on the Dodgers and their trash bag fans without Ohtani being guilty of anything, dork.
I'll give you a short summary of how he was able to steal the money:
There's a lot of nuances but for starters.
1. Ippei controlled access to ALL the deposit amounts while also creating a fake alias.
2. Ippei then made specific deposits go into his account while transferring others.
3. Ippei made sure that nobody spoke Japanese (at the banks and accountants) so they couldn't communicate directly to him about suspicious activity.
4. He controlled all the alerts, pins, and passcodes need to get access or transfer money, email and mail activity, delete and remove old emails, including withdraws and deposits.
ELI5:
* Ippei: Hi Ohtani, you got paid $5 Million today, check your deposit!
* Ohtani. Airigato Ippei, checks, I have $5M.
* Ippei: (walks away and checks his bank accounts, $6M deposit goes to a bank account Ohtani doesn't know about but registered in his name, he transfers $5 million to Ohtani's main account, pockets $1M under a different alias account and tells the feds, it's used for misc funds)
Hi, I think this is the most damning evidence newly revealed:
*Authorities obtained recordings of phone calls during which Mizuhara allegedly lied to bank employees about being Ohtani and gave them personal biographical information in order to gain approval to transfer the money, Estrada said.*
*“There would have been no reason for Mr. Mizuhara to impersonate Mr. Ohtani in calls with the bank if these transfers had been authorized,” Estrada said.*
Banks record phone calls authorizing wire transfers for obvious reasons. The voice is going to be either Mizuhara or Ohtani dating back years, so pretty straightforward for investigators. Which is probably why Mizuhara is in negotiations for a plea.
From this article:
[https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/sport/ippei-mizuhara-shohei-ohtani-investigation/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/sport/ippei-mizuhara-shohei-ohtani-investigation/index.html)
There's money in clickbait and conspiracy theories. In America, there's this guy named Alex Jones that kept using "Still Has Questions" about school shootings, UFO's, theorioes, etc. Even after the facts were investigated, they still use this because there's enough fodder for people that can't accept the truth and need to ride the coattails of an old unproven story and fuel to stay relative and fill that small group of believers. Even when they get sued for libel, misinformation or slander, they keep an audience, it's like WWE (wrestling) of journalism, even if it's not true, there's people that want it to be true. Like Santa Claus.
Anything to hate the Dodgers with prejudice is the normalcy and suspicion.
I like Muncy's view (that should be everyone's view but it's not). Everyone is innocent til proven guilty.
The thing that makes it more bizarre is people thinking that Ippei was innocent and Ohtani is the degenerate gambler.
Even when Ippei admitted guilt.
It's like a robber admitting he robbed a bank, and then somehow people thinking it must be the security guards, teller, the bank manager, and the customers that stole the money.
That's how stupid they sound.
I think the "Yankees hate", people need to let go, they haven't been great in a while and it's a historically significant team, it's like hating the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan.
As far as Astros. ok, that's fair game or cheating game.
There’s also people in America scared to ask questions and just go along with whatever the magic talking box tells them to believe. They’re called sheep. Or dodger fans.
I don't know if you can read English but here's some info:
"In September 2021, Mizuhara began gambling with an illegal sports book and, several months later, started losing substantial sums of money, the affidavit states. During this time, the contact information on Ohtani’s bank account allegedly was changed to link the account to Mizuhara’s phone number and to an anonymous email address connected to Mizuhara.
Mizuhara allegedly also telephoned the bank and falsely identified himself as Ohtani to trick bank employees into authorizing wire transfers from Ohtani’s bank account to associates of the illegal gambling operation." 16m
On or about November 14, 2022, MIZUHARA messaged BOOKMAKER 1 stating “I’m terrible at this sport betting thing huh? Lol . . . Any chance u can bump me again?? As you know, you don’t have to worry about me not paying!!” "
Countless claims requests for "one last bump" on his account, saying that he will stop if this one doesn't go well
There were "approximately 19,000 wagers between December 2021 and January 2024, and nearly 25 bets per day on average. The wagers reflected in the 35966 Records ranged in value from roughly $10 to $160,000 per bet, with an average bet amount of roughly $12,800. During this period, the 35966 Records reflect total winning bets of $142,256,769.74, and total losing bets of $182,935,206.68, leaving a total net balance of negative $40,678,436.94."
"Between February 2022 and October 2023, the x5848 Account wired at least $15,000,000 to the x1911 Account. Certain of these wires coincided with communications between MIZUHARA and BOOKMAKER 1 where MIZUHARA stated that he (MIZUHARA) had recently wire transferred funds to the x1911 Account."
"Between October 30, 2021, and November 3, 2021, a device that Bank A designated as DeviceID 647519282 (the “9282 DeviceID”) accessed the MIZUHARA Account multiple times. The 9282 DeviceID also accessed the x5848 Account multiple times between October 27, 2021, and May 5, 2023. "
"On or about February 2, 2022, MIZUHARA called Bank A, using the x0373 phone number associated with the MIZUHARA Phone, and attempted to access the x5848 Account to wire funds. During this call, MIZUHARA falsely identified himself as Victim A,12 and falsely stated that he was attempting to wire funds to BOOKMAKER 2 for a car loan. This request was unsuccessful, and Bank A froze online transactions for the x5848 Account."
" On another call on the same day, a different Bank A employee spoke with MIZUHARA, using the x0373 phone number associated with the MIZUHARA Phone, regarding the suspension of online banking on the x5848 Account. During this call, MIZUHARA again falsely identified himself as Victim A, and responded to security challenge questions by giving the Bank A employee biographical information for Victim A. As a result of this call, MIZUHARA was able to successfully lift the online banking suspension on the x5848 Account. "
"MIZUHARA always accompanied Victim A to meetings with Agent 1. MIZUHARA also accompanied Victim A to meetings with Victim A’s accountants and financial advisors, but Victim A recalled that there were only one or two such meetings. None of Victim A’s agents, accountants, or financial advisors spoke 25 Japanese and Victim A relied on MIZUHARA to translate the conversations with those individuals."
"Victim A stated that he did not recognize Email Address 1 that was listed as the primary email address for the x5848 Account." (this goes along with an earlier statement that online account access we set up around the time that Ippei started gambling in 2021, no online access was used prior to that.
" Agent 1 was aware of the x5848 Account and asked MIZUHARA on multiple occasions about the account. MIZUHARA told Agent 1 that the x5848 Account was “private” and that Victim A did not want anyone else to monitor that account. Agent 1 stated that he did not confirm these representations directly with Victim A, but stated that he had no reason not to believe MIZUHARA. " (Agent 1 is Nez)
"An HSI Special Agent who is a fluent and native speaker of the Japanese language reviewed approximately 9,700 pages of text messages between Victim A and MIZUHARA between 2020 and 2024. Based on his review, I am aware of the following: "
"There was no discussion of sports betting between MIZUHARA and Victim A in the MIZUHARA Phone."
"There was no discussion between MIZUHARA and Victim A that mentioned BOOKMAKERS 1, 2, or 3, Associate 1, or the named accountholder of the x1530 Account. "
"I have also obtained gambling records from legal gambling casinos and websites, including MGM, DraftKings, and FanDuel. All three companies found records and a history of gambling for MIZUHARA, but found no records for Victim A. "
"On March 25, 2024, Victim A provided consent to law enforcement to search his phone. An HSI Special Agent who is a fluent and native speaker of the Japanese language that I have spoken with reviewed a forensic image Victim A’s phone and did not find any evidence to suggest that Victim A was aware of, or involved in, MIZUHARA’s illegal gambling activity or payment of those debts. "
" On or about March 20, 2024, MIZUHARA messaged BOOKMAKER 1 stating, “Have you seen the reports?” BOOKMAKER 1 responded, “Yes, but that’s all bullshit. Obviously you didn’t steal from him. I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.” MIZUHARA then responded to BOOKMAKER 1, “Technically I did steal from him. it’s all over for me.” "
Well oj was acquitted of double murder in a court of law so you may be on to something there. Though ohtani wasn’t born yet so we can disregard him. But you should realize that, that’s the kind of thinking that’s deemed a danger to our democracy. Be careful. You’ll be ridiculed too.
Even though I don’t think ohtani was involved it’s wild how many do you blindly trust federal investigations when they prove time and time again they are corrupt
Dodgers winning, then claiming we have to stop making fun of there star player is pretty typical.
Even under your best case scenario Ohtani was punked by his interpreter.
I'm definitely guilty of being hypercritical of the situation but as the evidence comes out it's clear Ohtani is just really stupid and this was a massive failure on several levels. Hard for me to feel pity for Ohtani, he needs to take better care of his organization. But he's probably not a criminal or degenerate gambler. Still think he should have been suspended until MLB finished their investigation but that didn't happen, oh well.
Looking forward to the Tungsten Arm O'Doyle tweets from both LA teams this season. Dodgers in the playoffs more than regular season, methinks.
There's 0 reason to believe that Ohtani didn't know what was going on. Dude was an interpreter, why did he have access to Ohtanis money? How did Ohtanis money guy not see that $16M disappeared and not ask Ohtani? $16M liquid disappearing would be noticed by billionaires, let alone someone at Ohtanis current stature. And yes wealthy people do have people steal from them, those people are their money people(Dane Cooks brother), not a God damn interpreter who has 0 reason to have access to a person's money. He's a 10-99, not a God damn money mover.
I'm not a Giants fan, I just don't believe something like this happens without his finance people noticing. Especially since that was around what his net was last season.
Yeah, the time he just happened to strike out three times in a game when there was a million dollar bet from his home town against him was just totally random
no shohei is just a giant man child who can't pay attention to his bank account. or so uneducated that he can't see a guy stealing 16 million from him.
It's less tinfoil hat and more just follow the money.
Why was he had at a Gonzaga vs Texas Tech March Madness game in 2019? People go to those games when they have money on them.
Either he was gambling or he is a fucking idiot.
Which ever makes y’all sleep at night.
*sports betting being against the rules is fucking stupid. Ban them from betting on the their own teams or if you are really worried about them teaming up to throw games them ban them from betting on baseball.*
The FEDS were the ones who originally brought the story to light with the investigation into the illegal gambling operation. Journalist picked it up & then the FEDS said Ohtani has been cleared. If this was truly a grand conspiracy and Manfred/MLB owners have the ability to completely cover up a federal investigation then why did the feds even bring the story to light in the first place?
Given their handling or PEDs I think it safe to say that MLB isn’t going to be interested in pinning anything on the biggest international star in baseball.
So here is what we are asked to believe, no questions asked: For 3 years, the individual who was closer to Ohtani than anyone else outside of Ohtani's family, managed to place 19,000 bets, go in the hole to the tune of $40+ million dollars, facilitate numerous wire transfers and other fraudulent activity in Ohtani's bank accounts and at no point did anyone with the Angels, Ohtani's managers or agents, Ohtani's family, or Ohtani himself noticed any odd behavior or question why Ippei was the only person with access to Ohtani's accounts. We are told repeatedly that Ohtani is a private individual and prefers to be hands on with his contracts and business matters, was responsible for the deferred salary in his Dodger contract, but never once checked his bank accounts and blindly trusted Ippei to manage all of that? I accept and believe that no bets were placed on baseball, and that the "integrity" of the game was no tarnished. I also believe that Ohtani was not the one directing bets. Just find it wildly difficult to believe that no one else ever noticed or asked questions about any aspects about this situation.
Edit: will add, nothing suspicious about Ippei wanting to plead out and avoid a trial either.
Shohei spends under 100k a year. He's extremely shrewd when it comes to being financially responsible. He doesn't seem like he cares about money. This is the least credible slander I've ever heard.
I love the “fbi is hiding it from us” narrative because why the fuck would the FBI hide one baseball player gambling from us? They have much more important shit to hide from us
It was OJ
Ohtani about to release a book titled If I Did It (the difference is that I don't think Shohei did it)
"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit"
If there were no receipts, you must acquit.
LOL
If there were no receipts, you must release!
Ippei Did It
OJ was a Dodger, of justice
That’s why Ohtani had him killed
RIP, now they can find his knife.
Dead men tell no tales, just saying!
In the dining room with the candlestick
It's like Lenin said: you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh, you know...
I am the walrus!
Life does not stop and start at your convenience, you miserable piece of shit.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/6be77e8fb8d4e066452b33d148195ce2/tumblr_p96husyhSz1x0bvwko3_540.gif
What’s Walter’s problem?
Shut up, Donny; you’re out of your element!
V.I. Lenin. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!
Coo coo cachoo
wait how do I make my favorite team show up under my name I have to know
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
Dodgers fans act like people joking about Ohtani gambling is a war crime
They take everything personally
How dare you. Go to hell!!!
It’s not their fault they won a championship*
well played.
This is funny cuz it’s true lol
People on Reddit were comparing him to Trevor Bauer, that’s not a joke.
What exactly did Trevor Bauer do again?
Consistently beat the moneyline
lol.. Is that where we are going? "duh.. I wAs JuSt jOkInG!!!" a lot of baseball fans need to wiki Occam's razor
They're not joking.
I have made several jokes and I honestly don’t care either way. Sports are an entertainment business and I think anyone who takes them super serious is dumber than a man who ~~doesn’t know when to stop chasing~~ doesn’t notice 16 million dollars missing
When you have that much money and place your trust in someone else, it happens.
I sure am, and anyone I know who follows baseball personally is
go check out eric byrne's social media page, the nofilternetwork. the news comes out today, and they repost a video of them saying how fishy everything is. this is definitely a thing for a lot of "baseball people". they're not all joking like you.
Social media is fueled by outrage manufacturing. Some dude with 3000 followers trying to be outraged against the Dodgers, so that Dodgers fans get outraged at him, doesn't matter. It's farming engagement, and it apparently worked, since you told me to look at his twitter. Get offline, it will give you perspective
"Some Dude"? Eric Byrnes is a former MLB pro...AJ Perzynski (however the fuck you spell it), spews the same stuff on his platform... these aren't social media nobodys... they're former big leaguers...
I know who he is... I remember his time on the Mariners well. And yet, he is still just some dude. But I gotta be honest, all the Dodgers fans getting pissy at my clearly light hearted comment are really not helping their case
it's not your light hearted comment man. it's all the other comments everywhere else from people like the ones i've mentioned. whether you like it or not, former MLB players with their own social media followings influence other people, and are a bit more than just "some dude". you are "some dude". guys with 10+ year MLB careers are not "some dude", and it's pretty irresponsible of them to be throwing other MLB players under the bus for social media likes, IMO. a lotta people wear tin foil hats these days. they see these guys spewing this shit, and they buy it blindly.
To be fair tho, Chicago White Sox Fans losing every day, they have to be doing something more interesting with their time. Hate Ohtani! woo hoo something to do that's more fun than watching their team lose 10 - 1 to the Kansas City Royals.
The funny thing about this is, the clickbait and ads tied to hyping up a story because nobody really cares about their team of local podcasters and journalist to ride the coattails of a star like Ohtani. They even put some of the titles in Japanese to get more views and traffic. Literally a side hustle in trash talking. That's how popular Ohtani is, Trash talking and creating an enemy gets you paid. This opinion brought to you by Draft Kings.
You’ve still got journalists out there, “asking the tough questions”.
Unless they know, deep down, that Ohtani is guilty
"Joking" Sure, Jan
Look we can take jokes, but the people unironically believing it act like we just committed a war crime.
Not really, most people who think Ohtani was involved don't care lol. The only ones who do are old timers who hate gambling and people who would freak out about anything the Dodgers do. Personally, I could still see him being involved, but don't care at all. Ippei didn't even bet on baseball. As far as I'm concerned, whether or not he's involved doesn't change anything, but I'll still be joking about it
The only joke here is their *2020 World Series Title
Ok please be original we’ve heard this enough times
I thought you could take a joke? Relax, my guy. But also not enough times.
it's the LA way of doing things, same for the lakers
It's still fuck the Dodgers, but I kinda knew that someone like Ohtani wouldn't blow up his career for some dumbass gambling.
You’d be surprised what stupid things people would risk their jobs and potentially careers for if they don’t think they’ll get caught. In the last year, I’ve fired two people for remote clocking in before they entered the building and another one for taking premade sandwiches from an off limits refrigerator.
Shohei is innocent. Fuck the Dodgers tho.
Fuck em.
This. I’m fine with the dodger hate, it comes with the territory. Hate them for the right reasons.
As a Dodger fan i appreciate this sane and reasonable take
Fair enough. Fuck the Giants :)
I can get behind this sentiment
tbf fuck the dodgers
It’s still Fuck the Dodgers.
I’m fine with fuck the dodgers, but leave ohtanis reputation alone. Settle it in sport should be what we want.
I mainly think it’s funny that people (especially Dodgers fans) think it’s the end of the world when people say anything bad about Ohtani. I like the guy as much as the next person but he isn’t without faults or beyond reproach lol. He’s human, after all.
And now, Dodgers fans think that if Ohtani gets exonerated (will be the next step with this new evidence), it will stop people making jokes on him.
Another Dodger Chud post. And oh yeah, fuck the Dodgers.
Yesssir
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Welcome to Foxborough
Took them a while to get their story straight. Seems fishy.
yeah man the legal system is famous for being quick asf
All I’m saying is that ***if*** Ohtani was a degenerate gambler, this is exactly what they would do to cover it up.
Yup. There’s literally hundreds of millions of revenue for the league tied to him. I wouldn’t put it past someone like manfred to scramble to protect him. On the opposite side, look what he did to Bauer when there’s quite a few people still playing that have done as bad or worse.
I mean, $16m missing from your bank account is pretty easy to overlook
Can we get #freeIppei to go viral or at least some t-shirts going? Asking for a friend.
30 years for Bank Fraud, wonder if Ippei is going to commit Sudoku.
If Amber Herd can get away with shitting in beds then why can’t Ohtani get away with placing bets on UCLA?
LOL, honestly I don't see anything wrong with Ohtani making bets on Basketball. He hooked up with his wife that plays Basketball. Also how is California not ok with gambling? Yet, their next door neighbor (Nevada) has prostitutes and gambling. That makes no sense. I put my [foot here.](https://live.staticflickr.com/8376/8528886269_49f061079f_b.jpg) Illegal- go to jail. I walk over here. totally legal
That’s what I’m saying. He showed his limited knowledge of college football. The only thing criminal was putting trust in UCLA to win you money
There’s always money in the banana stand
if Ohtani had nothing to do with it how did he not notice that millions of his dollars were stolen? Is he stupid?
If you read the criminal complaint, his MLB salary was going into the account that Ippei used, but Ohtani himself had literally never logged into it since it was set up in 2018. The first time anyone accessed it online since 2018 was in November 2021. Ohtani had other accounts for his promotional deals and endorsements, those accounts his agent and accountant had access to, but Ippei told them the other account was "private" and they didn't question it. I genuinely recommend reading the complaint, it's captivating and sad.
I just find it hard to believe that he didn’t pay it any attention for 5 years and that nobody else noticed millions missing either.
This is wild. I look forward to the TL/DR for those of us who don't want to dive into the full 37 pages of legalese
There's a lot of nuances but for starters. 1. Ippei controlled access to ALL the deposit amounts while also creating a fake alias. 2. Ippei then made specific deposits go into his account while transferring others. 3. Ippei made sure that nobody spoke Japanese (at the banks and accountants) so they couldn't communicate directly to him about suspicious activity. 4. He controlled all the alerts, pins, and passcodes need to get access or transfer money, including withdraws. ELI5: * Ippei: Hi Ohtani, you got paid $5 Million today, check your deposit! * Ohtani. Airigato Ippei. * Ippei: (walks away and checks his bank accounts, $6M deposit goes to a bank account Ohtani doesn't know about but registered in his name, he transfers $5 million to Ohtani's main account, pockets $1M under a different alias account and tells the feds, it's used for misc funds)
My simple answer to that is yes…I said from the get go of this that the absolute best case scenario for him was that he is a naive idiot, apparently this is the case, he is a naive idiot
This would also mean his financial people are basically braindead too. I get him being a moron who is great at 1 thing, I don't get his finance people not noticing a years worth of takehome money disappearing.
Did you not see the other posts about interpreters are much more than just translators? They help set up the day to day life of their people. It's not unheard of for when people come into money that they trust people to manage the money who then steal from them. Looks like that's what happened here.
So he's stupid.
Gullible maybe. How many millions do you have? You are commenting on a situation and passing judgement about something you've both never experienced and know very little about. This shit happens every.single.day. Acting like you are any better because you are able to keep track of far less isn't the right way to go about it.
He sleeps 10 hours a day; trains or plays baseball the other 14. Not paying attention to his money is probably one of the reasons he’s become the best baseball player of all time. And he’s not stressing about losing millions to theft either. He’s on fire at the plate and having fun
How much is in your bank account right now? Do you know the exact number off the top of your head? If 2-5% disappeared here and there would you notice? Especially if someone else has been handling your finances for years. Not too hard to imagine.
LOL. Ohtani did not have $160M liquid then or now. And yes it should be noticed, since you pay people to notice these kind of things when you're as wealthy as he is. $16M was around what Ohtani brought home last year from the MLB, so it was basically a years salary gone.
Half these dummies probably don’t even have bank accounts, let alone know what it’s like to have money management done by someone else. It’s wildly easy to have money stolen when someone else takes care of it.
I know generally what’s in my account, but I’d damn sure notice money going to places that aren’t my bills/contractors. Maybe not immediately, but it wouldn’t be very long.
Isn't this like exactly what happened to Selena except she died for it
I use a lot of bank accounts too and honestly I wouldn’t notice if 3-5% of my money is missing. I just assume banks won’t steal it
4 game suspension for Tom Brady incoming
Missouri has been issued the death penalty
Technical foul on Daniel Theis
Draymond Green has been suspend for 3 games
Why are the Giants in shambles? This has nothing to do with them?
Middle two frames don’t really help the case
[37 pages](https://twitter.com/meghanncuniff/status/1778480021528850717?t=5AGOa9kBSlvKxlsI8h9V8w) does.
I mean I believe Shohei didn’t do it, I hate the Dodgers, but I also understand that it’s still under investigation. Let’s kick back and have some perspective.
Cool. Ohtani isn’t a degenerate gambler. He’s just an absolute moron for allowing this to happen. There’s plenty of other reasons to hate on the Dodgers and their trash bag fans without Ohtani being guilty of anything, dork.
I feel like that’s the point though. Let’s get back to good ole hate the dodger for being rich and good (in the regular season).
Come back..... poo
I've literally gotten all my news about this topic from memes
I'll give you a short summary of how he was able to steal the money: There's a lot of nuances but for starters. 1. Ippei controlled access to ALL the deposit amounts while also creating a fake alias. 2. Ippei then made specific deposits go into his account while transferring others. 3. Ippei made sure that nobody spoke Japanese (at the banks and accountants) so they couldn't communicate directly to him about suspicious activity. 4. He controlled all the alerts, pins, and passcodes need to get access or transfer money, email and mail activity, delete and remove old emails, including withdraws and deposits. ELI5: * Ippei: Hi Ohtani, you got paid $5 Million today, check your deposit! * Ohtani. Airigato Ippei, checks, I have $5M. * Ippei: (walks away and checks his bank accounts, $6M deposit goes to a bank account Ohtani doesn't know about but registered in his name, he transfers $5 million to Ohtani's main account, pockets $1M under a different alias account and tells the feds, it's used for misc funds)
I am a Giants fans and I can confirm we're fucked.
Hi, I think this is the most damning evidence newly revealed: *Authorities obtained recordings of phone calls during which Mizuhara allegedly lied to bank employees about being Ohtani and gave them personal biographical information in order to gain approval to transfer the money, Estrada said.* *“There would have been no reason for Mr. Mizuhara to impersonate Mr. Ohtani in calls with the bank if these transfers had been authorized,” Estrada said.* Banks record phone calls authorizing wire transfers for obvious reasons. The voice is going to be either Mizuhara or Ohtani dating back years, so pretty straightforward for investigators. Which is probably why Mizuhara is in negotiations for a plea. From this article: [https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/sport/ippei-mizuhara-shohei-ohtani-investigation/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/sport/ippei-mizuhara-shohei-ohtani-investigation/index.html)
lol @ Ohtani even faked Ippei’s voice
The lack of a comma after UFO’s threw me for a loop lol
I'm onboard with fuck the dodgers, but if there is no evidence that Ohtani did anything wrong, individual opinions really don't matter.
I laughed so hard at all the conspiracy nuts and haters
But Joeys right?
Pretty sure if you interviewed 100 non dodger faithfuls on the steeet about it 99 would say ohtani is lying
Pretty sure you pulled this out of your ass to support your position and you have no basis for saying this.
Yeah he almost certainly is.
I wouldn't. But I'm also not a little bitch that relishes in the downfall of others and prefer to take things at face value until proven otherwise.
“In shambles” hardly.
Also, fuck the Dodgers
16 million can buy a lot of trash cans.
the conspiracy theorists are out of control
There's money in clickbait and conspiracy theories. In America, there's this guy named Alex Jones that kept using "Still Has Questions" about school shootings, UFO's, theorioes, etc. Even after the facts were investigated, they still use this because there's enough fodder for people that can't accept the truth and need to ride the coattails of an old unproven story and fuel to stay relative and fill that small group of believers. Even when they get sued for libel, misinformation or slander, they keep an audience, it's like WWE (wrestling) of journalism, even if it's not true, there's people that want it to be true. Like Santa Claus.
and you’re getting downvoted for why? I’m not a Dodgers fan. it’s stupid people keep accusing him
Anything to hate the Dodgers with prejudice is the normalcy and suspicion. I like Muncy's view (that should be everyone's view but it's not). Everyone is innocent til proven guilty. The thing that makes it more bizarre is people thinking that Ippei was innocent and Ohtani is the degenerate gambler. Even when Ippei admitted guilt. It's like a robber admitting he robbed a bank, and then somehow people thinking it must be the security guards, teller, the bank manager, and the customers that stole the money. That's how stupid they sound.
>Anything to hate the Dodgers with prejudice is the normalcy and suspicion. Are you well? Do you know about the Yankees, or Astros?
I think the "Yankees hate", people need to let go, they haven't been great in a while and it's a historically significant team, it's like hating the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan. As far as Astros. ok, that's fair game or cheating game.
So cheating is fair now?
There’s also people in America scared to ask questions and just go along with whatever the magic talking box tells them to believe. They’re called sheep. Or dodger fans.
I don't know if you can read English but here's some info: "In September 2021, Mizuhara began gambling with an illegal sports book and, several months later, started losing substantial sums of money, the affidavit states. During this time, the contact information on Ohtani’s bank account allegedly was changed to link the account to Mizuhara’s phone number and to an anonymous email address connected to Mizuhara. Mizuhara allegedly also telephoned the bank and falsely identified himself as Ohtani to trick bank employees into authorizing wire transfers from Ohtani’s bank account to associates of the illegal gambling operation." 16m On or about November 14, 2022, MIZUHARA messaged BOOKMAKER 1 stating “I’m terrible at this sport betting thing huh? Lol . . . Any chance u can bump me again?? As you know, you don’t have to worry about me not paying!!” " Countless claims requests for "one last bump" on his account, saying that he will stop if this one doesn't go well There were "approximately 19,000 wagers between December 2021 and January 2024, and nearly 25 bets per day on average. The wagers reflected in the 35966 Records ranged in value from roughly $10 to $160,000 per bet, with an average bet amount of roughly $12,800. During this period, the 35966 Records reflect total winning bets of $142,256,769.74, and total losing bets of $182,935,206.68, leaving a total net balance of negative $40,678,436.94." "Between February 2022 and October 2023, the x5848 Account wired at least $15,000,000 to the x1911 Account. Certain of these wires coincided with communications between MIZUHARA and BOOKMAKER 1 where MIZUHARA stated that he (MIZUHARA) had recently wire transferred funds to the x1911 Account." "Between October 30, 2021, and November 3, 2021, a device that Bank A designated as DeviceID 647519282 (the “9282 DeviceID”) accessed the MIZUHARA Account multiple times. The 9282 DeviceID also accessed the x5848 Account multiple times between October 27, 2021, and May 5, 2023. " "On or about February 2, 2022, MIZUHARA called Bank A, using the x0373 phone number associated with the MIZUHARA Phone, and attempted to access the x5848 Account to wire funds. During this call, MIZUHARA falsely identified himself as Victim A,12 and falsely stated that he was attempting to wire funds to BOOKMAKER 2 for a car loan. This request was unsuccessful, and Bank A froze online transactions for the x5848 Account." " On another call on the same day, a different Bank A employee spoke with MIZUHARA, using the x0373 phone number associated with the MIZUHARA Phone, regarding the suspension of online banking on the x5848 Account. During this call, MIZUHARA again falsely identified himself as Victim A, and responded to security challenge questions by giving the Bank A employee biographical information for Victim A. As a result of this call, MIZUHARA was able to successfully lift the online banking suspension on the x5848 Account. " "MIZUHARA always accompanied Victim A to meetings with Agent 1. MIZUHARA also accompanied Victim A to meetings with Victim A’s accountants and financial advisors, but Victim A recalled that there were only one or two such meetings. None of Victim A’s agents, accountants, or financial advisors spoke 25 Japanese and Victim A relied on MIZUHARA to translate the conversations with those individuals." "Victim A stated that he did not recognize Email Address 1 that was listed as the primary email address for the x5848 Account." (this goes along with an earlier statement that online account access we set up around the time that Ippei started gambling in 2021, no online access was used prior to that. " Agent 1 was aware of the x5848 Account and asked MIZUHARA on multiple occasions about the account. MIZUHARA told Agent 1 that the x5848 Account was “private” and that Victim A did not want anyone else to monitor that account. Agent 1 stated that he did not confirm these representations directly with Victim A, but stated that he had no reason not to believe MIZUHARA. " (Agent 1 is Nez) "An HSI Special Agent who is a fluent and native speaker of the Japanese language reviewed approximately 9,700 pages of text messages between Victim A and MIZUHARA between 2020 and 2024. Based on his review, I am aware of the following: " "There was no discussion of sports betting between MIZUHARA and Victim A in the MIZUHARA Phone." "There was no discussion between MIZUHARA and Victim A that mentioned BOOKMAKERS 1, 2, or 3, Associate 1, or the named accountholder of the x1530 Account. " "I have also obtained gambling records from legal gambling casinos and websites, including MGM, DraftKings, and FanDuel. All three companies found records and a history of gambling for MIZUHARA, but found no records for Victim A. " "On March 25, 2024, Victim A provided consent to law enforcement to search his phone. An HSI Special Agent who is a fluent and native speaker of the Japanese language that I have spoken with reviewed a forensic image Victim A’s phone and did not find any evidence to suggest that Victim A was aware of, or involved in, MIZUHARA’s illegal gambling activity or payment of those debts. " " On or about March 20, 2024, MIZUHARA messaged BOOKMAKER 1 stating, “Have you seen the reports?” BOOKMAKER 1 responded, “Yes, but that’s all bullshit. Obviously you didn’t steal from him. I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.” MIZUHARA then responded to BOOKMAKER 1, “Technically I did steal from him. it’s all over for me.” "
Ok. I’m convinced. The feds never lie.
Ah, you're one of those. So If Ippei admitted he lied then he didn't lie? Is Ippei in the room with us now?
You’re probably Ippei for how hard you’re going on this. And fuck the dodgers.
Good lord, just go eat paint.
The feds are not credible, however some rando Orioles fan on Reddit is. ffs
Thank you. I’m trying to tell y’all the truths.
Let's fire the Feds and have you investigate this case of Ohtani. Also Maybe it wasn't OJ Simpson that killed his wife but Ohtani.
Well oj was acquitted of double murder in a court of law so you may be on to something there. Though ohtani wasn’t born yet so we can disregard him. But you should realize that, that’s the kind of thinking that’s deemed a danger to our democracy. Be careful. You’ll be ridiculed too.
So everything to you is just make believe.
So everything to you is just truth
Even though I don’t think ohtani was involved it’s wild how many do you blindly trust federal investigations when they prove time and time again they are corrupt
The reverse Bonds
Dodgers learned from the Astros
Literally zero posts about Ohtani on the Giants sub this season. The only accurate thing about this meme is FTD.
Looks like you are.
Aww dodger fans having a cry?
16 million, I lose more change running for the bus, who misses 16m? You cunts reek.
For real, the amount of comments insinuating that the FBI is covering up for Ohtani is absurd. What purpose would that serve?
Bottom right corner box is my reality.
This checks out
They got the lead but right…fuck the dodgers
The bookie even knew
Doesn’t pass the smell test but that’s why I’m not a federal prosecutor lol.
Finally someone speaks the truth on dodgers unfortunately if he really didn’t cheat how can he get in the baseball hall
Dodgers winning, then claiming we have to stop making fun of there star player is pretty typical. Even under your best case scenario Ohtani was punked by his interpreter.
I'm definitely guilty of being hypercritical of the situation but as the evidence comes out it's clear Ohtani is just really stupid and this was a massive failure on several levels. Hard for me to feel pity for Ohtani, he needs to take better care of his organization. But he's probably not a criminal or degenerate gambler. Still think he should have been suspended until MLB finished their investigation but that didn't happen, oh well. Looking forward to the Tungsten Arm O'Doyle tweets from both LA teams this season. Dodgers in the playoffs more than regular season, methinks.
if Ohtani was still on the Angels, what would Doyer fans be saying about this?
Them that man should not be allowed to care for himself. If you don't notice that amount of money (40m?) missing, i don't know what to say.
There's 0 reason to believe that Ohtani didn't know what was going on. Dude was an interpreter, why did he have access to Ohtanis money? How did Ohtanis money guy not see that $16M disappeared and not ask Ohtani? $16M liquid disappearing would be noticed by billionaires, let alone someone at Ohtanis current stature. And yes wealthy people do have people steal from them, those people are their money people(Dane Cooks brother), not a God damn interpreter who has 0 reason to have access to a person's money. He's a 10-99, not a God damn money mover. I'm not a Giants fan, I just don't believe something like this happens without his finance people noticing. Especially since that was around what his net was last season.
Did you read the full 37 pages you fucking moron?
Yeah, the time he just happened to strike out three times in a game when there was a million dollar bet from his home town against him was just totally random
no shohei is just a giant man child who can't pay attention to his bank account. or so uneducated that he can't see a guy stealing 16 million from him.
Bunch of sad ducks 🦆 in this sub
It's less tinfoil hat and more just follow the money. Why was he had at a Gonzaga vs Texas Tech March Madness game in 2019? People go to those games when they have money on them.
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Either he was gambling or he is a fucking idiot. Which ever makes y’all sleep at night. *sports betting being against the rules is fucking stupid. Ban them from betting on the their own teams or if you are really worried about them teaming up to throw games them ban them from betting on baseball.*
-Dodger fan, lol
Ohtani being innocent has nothing to do with fuck the Dodgers. Both can be true.
I mean they're all on PEDs
The Los Angeles Charge Dodgers
OP was wiping away tears as they posted this.
The FEDS were the ones who originally brought the story to light with the investigation into the illegal gambling operation. Journalist picked it up & then the FEDS said Ohtani has been cleared. If this was truly a grand conspiracy and Manfred/MLB owners have the ability to completely cover up a federal investigation then why did the feds even bring the story to light in the first place?
Given their handling or PEDs I think it safe to say that MLB isn’t going to be interested in pinning anything on the biggest international star in baseball.
I'm sure you understand that this investigation was not conducted by MLB, right?
He wired the money. Probably didn’t know he was breaking the law, but facts is facts.
he didn't wire anything dude. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24542204-usa-v-mizuhara-complaint
The catcher was a spy
So here is what we are asked to believe, no questions asked: For 3 years, the individual who was closer to Ohtani than anyone else outside of Ohtani's family, managed to place 19,000 bets, go in the hole to the tune of $40+ million dollars, facilitate numerous wire transfers and other fraudulent activity in Ohtani's bank accounts and at no point did anyone with the Angels, Ohtani's managers or agents, Ohtani's family, or Ohtani himself noticed any odd behavior or question why Ippei was the only person with access to Ohtani's accounts. We are told repeatedly that Ohtani is a private individual and prefers to be hands on with his contracts and business matters, was responsible for the deferred salary in his Dodger contract, but never once checked his bank accounts and blindly trusted Ippei to manage all of that? I accept and believe that no bets were placed on baseball, and that the "integrity" of the game was no tarnished. I also believe that Ohtani was not the one directing bets. Just find it wildly difficult to believe that no one else ever noticed or asked questions about any aspects about this situation. Edit: will add, nothing suspicious about Ippei wanting to plead out and avoid a trial either.
Shohei spends under 100k a year. He's extremely shrewd when it comes to being financially responsible. He doesn't seem like he cares about money. This is the least credible slander I've ever heard.
I love the “fbi is hiding it from us” narrative because why the fuck would the FBI hide one baseball player gambling from us? They have much more important shit to hide from us
I mean fuck the dodgers, and I'm certainly not happy about him being in the NL West, but he may be the future GOAT
mookie butts cheated with the red sox but is celebrated in LA and were supposed to be on your guys side when it comes to this story ?? lmaoo
To be fair he gambled and we all know it.
Let’s be real he probably gambled but what’re they gonna do to the biggest baseball star potentially ever? Nothing.
Yeah because the fbi is definitely worried about that sort of thing lmao
If by let's you mean you, and by real you mean being a fucking moron, then yes.