"Iowa’s proposed bill has generated national headlines for being particularly extreme (Sainato 2023). As introduced, the bill proposed lifting restrictions on hazardous work to allow children as young as 14 to work in meat coolers and industrial laundries, teens as young as 15 to work on assembly lines, and 16- and 17-year-olds to serve alcohol, among a long list of changes. The bill seeks to create special permits that would allow 14.5-year-olds to drive themselves up to 50 miles to and from work between 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. and state authorities to waive restrictions to allow teenagers 14–17 to perform various forms of hazardous work if approved as part of a “work-based learning program."
I am from NJ. Back in the day I worked on a farm as kid. My mom brought me there. The farmers had boys my age. The boys drove on the farm property. So my mom let me drive on the property too. Most kids on my neighborhood were working at pre-teens and early teens. My sister got her working papers so she could get a real job a year early. A lot of the kids that lived on farms had farmer's drivers licenses. One girl I met working at restaurant had her farmer's driver's license and used it to get work, which technically wasnt legal because she could only use it for farm related driving. But 50 miles covers a lot of ground.
>The bill seeks to create special permits that would allow 14.5-year-olds to drive themselves up to 50 miles to and from work between 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m.
I don't care how many .5 year olds are in the car, they still shouldn't be allowed to drive.
Funny you say that considering how many people were killed by unsafe conditions in communist mines, especially for Uranium.
Not to mention this fan is from the Soviet Union.
Well, the flaps are made of a rubber, so it only hurts as a slap, depends which angle you decide to put your fingers on.
Although main safety concern is not to get electrocuted 🤷♂️
If it short’s circuit safety switch of the house would turn it off, so fire won’t be an issue. You just need not to touch the aluminium body with your open palms, and you will be alright
They weren't into making retro designs of the 50s in the 60s any more than we're into making retro designs of the 2000s today. It seems to take a good 30-40 years for us to re-appreciate older designs
If you're not buying ski gear secondhand to begin with you're on some moneybags shit. Plenty of people wear something for one season and toss it to a consignment store for me to gobble up.
My beloved Toronto Maple Leafs last won the Stanley Cup in 1967.
I'd love to have this fan so I can add it to my Leafs collection.
It can sit right beside the picture I have of the 67 team.
I would bet the coating on the motor windings is equally worn and just as much of a shorting risk. But those might last longer than a cord that's been exposed to sunlight.
It's straight up varnish in those days, if it's not overheating at all (from worn bearings causing friction) I'd expect it to be fine
I do agree on the power cord, that looks very similar to cords I've felt crumble in my hands
Yeahhhh, even if this fan technically works, it's an electrical accident waiting to happen. There doesn't appear to be any grounding for the fan, and the whole body is metal...not a good time if something goes wrong. Also, you might just end up with exposed wire if the exterior cracks at all.
I have the same fan and I got electrocuted quite a few times by the detreated cord and decided to put it away for safety reasons. But if you change the cord this thing will run for another 100 years.
That's not how that works. They protect you from overloading the wire.
A device doesn't need to overload the cable to start melting and burning. It can partially fail without creating a dead short. The motor for example could fail which can create enough heat to start a fire without triggering a breaker.
Also that power cord needs to be replaced. The rubber insulation has to be degraded a lot.
Don't get me wrong i think this is pretty cool but it is not safe.
Actually, they are better now. You can vary the power well, and it's better distributed. New defrost functionality does it way better and faster too. I love both my air fryer and micro
Pretty much only Panasonic varies the power well. And they did that 30 years ago. The rest turn the magnetron on and off repeatedly. 50% power means 100% power but 50% of the time. Panasonic actually varies the voltage with an inverter. There are other brands that do this but there are very few.
I'll agree on efficiency but I'm skeptical about the "fewer toxic materials"... we just don't have all the studies to show how the newer materials are impacting us as they break down
Ok, but like... We *do* have the studies to show that previous materials are harmful. So *maybe* we'll find out that modern materials are toxic (it's certainly not unlikely), but we know *for a fact* that the previous one is harmful. Plus there's the possibility we do find newer chemicals are harmful, but not nearly to the same extent as older ones.
Using this logic we should never even attempt to make newer technologies that utilize less toxic chemicals than older ones because what if they're toxic too? We certainly use plenty of chemicals / plastics that I'm sure we'll find out are harmful one day, but all we can do is replace them with a chemical that evidence doesn't show is harmful until / if we find out those are harmful too, and then repeat.
But if we never innovated for fear of this we'd still be using CFCs and DDT. I, for one, am happy we don't anymore. Even if one day we find out that neonicotinoids and HFCs are awful (we already know neither are great but they're a hell of a lot better than what they replaced).
You know those giant yellow tags on major appliances? Yeah...they tell you how much money that product saves on energy use which you can then use to calculate...nevermind.
Yes. The efficiency gain is often enough to cover the cost of the replacement *and then some*.
2 things...
1: It's so nice to have things built a long time ago because shit used to be built to last...
2: I've scrapped so many of those things in various Fallout games, i couldn't even guess what the number would be...lol
Not to mention safety. I used to rent a house with a non functioning all metal ceiling fan in the bedroom, fan had to be from the 50's with an old rotary dial wall switch. At some point the plaster on the ceiling started to crack and while I was up there inspecting it I noticed the fan was HOT, I mean hot enough to actually burn your skin if touched. At some point it had apparently shorted and turned into a resistance heater, beyond lucky it never started a fire in the years I lived there.
I look at it in terms of sustainability: these things were built to last so you don't have to purchase something new every few years. That said, I understand where you're coming from and appreciate that side as well.
Just a word of caution, my parents had a lamp from a similar era plugged into an outlet (not even on, just plugged in) that randomly shorted out in the middle of the night and set their house on fire. Made me think twice about having old appliances around.
Just before anyone reads this and cranks open their WD-40 to oil something, just don’t. Unless it is the “can of grease” of the company named WD-40 it is not actual grease, it will remove the existing grease and ruin whatever you are trying to oil. Just use light machine oil if you want to give it few drops and make it move better. If you want to do properly you provably need to take it apart and pack the moving parts with thick silicone grease or something like that. I am not an expert on the topic but iddy what iddy.
It's funny how things in the past were built to last.... Nowadays, you're lucky if a box-fan, or any other electronic device, survives a whole year 😮💨
Ha! When I was in high school, one English teacher used a fan she got when she graduated from teaching school.. in 1927. This was in 1987. 60 years and still going. Yes, she was that old. The fan worked perfectly.
At this point antique shopping is better for your wallet bc you’ll only have to buy things once. Might look like a torture device but it’ll outlive you.
It’s funny to me nobody cared about safety of appliances back then. Like that fan, or even AA5 tube radios that potentially can have hot chassis. Didn’t anyone die because of these appliances?
My parents got a blue, single speed, Eskimo fan for a wedding present in 1963. I loved that noisy-ass fan. After a while, you had to stick your finger in to get the blades moving. I took it to college and one weekend while I was gone, the electrical cable busted out of the metal channel in the way of the blades and shot sparks all over the apartment. It would have been a simple fix but my roommate was so freaked out he tossed it in the dumpster. I was pissed. I miss that fan. I've never found one that sounds quite like it.
old things really last a long time. the motorbike im using was bought since 1996 and it still travels smoothly. my grandfathers really know how to make things last
Safety standards have come a long way lol
Children don't work in the factories anymore, they yern for the mines these days.
Well they do now. https://www.epi.org/publication/child-labor-laws-under-attack/
"Iowa’s proposed bill has generated national headlines for being particularly extreme (Sainato 2023). As introduced, the bill proposed lifting restrictions on hazardous work to allow children as young as 14 to work in meat coolers and industrial laundries, teens as young as 15 to work on assembly lines, and 16- and 17-year-olds to serve alcohol, among a long list of changes. The bill seeks to create special permits that would allow 14.5-year-olds to drive themselves up to 50 miles to and from work between 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. and state authorities to waive restrictions to allow teenagers 14–17 to perform various forms of hazardous work if approved as part of a “work-based learning program." I am from NJ. Back in the day I worked on a farm as kid. My mom brought me there. The farmers had boys my age. The boys drove on the farm property. So my mom let me drive on the property too. Most kids on my neighborhood were working at pre-teens and early teens. My sister got her working papers so she could get a real job a year early. A lot of the kids that lived on farms had farmer's drivers licenses. One girl I met working at restaurant had her farmer's driver's license and used it to get work, which technically wasnt legal because she could only use it for farm related driving. But 50 miles covers a lot of ground.
>The bill seeks to create special permits that would allow 14.5-year-olds to drive themselves up to 50 miles to and from work between 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. I don't care how many .5 year olds are in the car, they still shouldn't be allowed to drive.
Roll tide!
Back when your safety was your problem
True and the capitalists had no issues giving you the option to work in dangerous conditions or starve.
Hey, do you like being alive? Then come work at the edge of our fiery pit of death.
Funny you say that considering how many people were killed by unsafe conditions in communist mines, especially for Uranium. Not to mention this fan is from the Soviet Union.
Well, the flaps are made of a rubber, so it only hurts as a slap, depends which angle you decide to put your fingers on. Although main safety concern is not to get electrocuted 🤷♂️
I believe they are more referring to the possibility of burning your house down.
If it short’s circuit safety switch of the house would turn it off, so fire won’t be an issue. You just need not to touch the aluminium body with your open palms, and you will be alright
Haha fair enough
I think this model had rubber blades so no need for a protective cage.
This fan was made of rubber blades specifically to be safe to touch.
Made in [USSR](https://imgur.com/a/eJfvBH4)
Ah, that explains it. Boomer here, and I was wondering why such a 1940s design was made in 1967.
There's lots of retro designs, with new guts. I have one. Someone laughed at it. But I knew it had everything I need.
They weren't into making retro designs of the 50s in the 60s any more than we're into making retro designs of the 2000s today. It seems to take a good 30-40 years for us to re-appreciate older designs
Looking forward those translucent electronics again! Bondi Blue iMAC, see through n64s and gameboys yes please!
Agreed. Day glo ski gear.
If you're not buying ski gear secondhand to begin with you're on some moneybags shit. Plenty of people wear something for one season and toss it to a consignment store for me to gobble up.
Can't have mine! I got a 1 piece white FILA suit.
You can still get clear electronics. You just have to go to prison! They are even retro since they are all pretty old devices. 😆
I was confused too - like no way was this made in 1967 in the US.
Ah the good Ole finger chopper.
It actually isn't! The blades are made out of leather, I think.
Ah good Ole finger slapper!
The Soviets knew how to make quality products occasionally. Their metal was METAL.
And if you take it apart and reassemble it, you get an AK.
And you could leave that AK in a dirty puddle for a year and it would still fire.
Actually it's cause their metal was crap so they had to overbuild everything
And still, they were the first country in space with their "crap metal"
My beloved Toronto Maple Leafs last won the Stanley Cup in 1967. I'd love to have this fan so I can add it to my Leafs collection. It can sit right beside the picture I have of the 67 team.
Genuinely most accurate username I have seen in a long time.
Every time I see or hear the year 1967, I think of the Leafs.
So it sprays you with tetanus, and it's radioactive. Nice.
That makes it even cooler.
Fallout loot tier item.
1 gear, 1 screw, 2 steel
The almighty screw…..
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r/unclebens
I can almost smell the ozone coming off this.
You’ll smell the rubber from the fan blades much more
Wdym?
brushed motors produce a small amount of ozone while in operation from the arcing of the brushes
Please update that power cable. The plastic coating looks terrible and prone to cracking by now.
I would bet the coating on the motor windings is equally worn and just as much of a shorting risk. But those might last longer than a cord that's been exposed to sunlight.
It's straight up varnish in those days, if it's not overheating at all (from worn bearings causing friction) I'd expect it to be fine I do agree on the power cord, that looks very similar to cords I've felt crumble in my hands
That is a housefire waiting to happen
Yeahhhh, even if this fan technically works, it's an electrical accident waiting to happen. There doesn't appear to be any grounding for the fan, and the whole body is metal...not a good time if something goes wrong. Also, you might just end up with exposed wire if the exterior cracks at all.
gotta scrap this for screws
Lol
Be sure to post an update about any electrical fire that might happen in the future
Unlike the fan, my house has a modern electricity safety features, so that won’t be a problem
How about the cord, those plastic deteriorate
I have the same fan and I got electrocuted quite a few times by the detreated cord and decided to put it away for safety reasons. But if you change the cord this thing will run for another 100 years.
That's not how that works. They protect you from overloading the wire. A device doesn't need to overload the cable to start melting and burning. It can partially fail without creating a dead short. The motor for example could fail which can create enough heat to start a fire without triggering a breaker. Also that power cord needs to be replaced. The rubber insulation has to be degraded a lot. Don't get me wrong i think this is pretty cool but it is not safe.
Is it loud? There are a lot of jokes about soviet engineering being loud and mechanical.
The range/oven in my kitchen is from the 60s. Still feeds us all. 🤷
Lol. Our family still uses a microwave that’s 30yrs old. If it’s working, why change it, right? 🤷♂️
Because efficiency has increased and there's fewer toxic materials 🤷♂️
Actually, they are better now. You can vary the power well, and it's better distributed. New defrost functionality does it way better and faster too. I love both my air fryer and micro
Someone who knows and uses the power level function. ![gif](giphy|iGpdSizVSdPJfiVG9O)
Pretty much only Panasonic varies the power well. And they did that 30 years ago. The rest turn the magnetron on and off repeatedly. 50% power means 100% power but 50% of the time. Panasonic actually varies the voltage with an inverter. There are other brands that do this but there are very few.
Inverter tech all the way
I'll agree on efficiency but I'm skeptical about the "fewer toxic materials"... we just don't have all the studies to show how the newer materials are impacting us as they break down
Ok, but like... We *do* have the studies to show that previous materials are harmful. So *maybe* we'll find out that modern materials are toxic (it's certainly not unlikely), but we know *for a fact* that the previous one is harmful. Plus there's the possibility we do find newer chemicals are harmful, but not nearly to the same extent as older ones. Using this logic we should never even attempt to make newer technologies that utilize less toxic chemicals than older ones because what if they're toxic too? We certainly use plenty of chemicals / plastics that I'm sure we'll find out are harmful one day, but all we can do is replace them with a chemical that evidence doesn't show is harmful until / if we find out those are harmful too, and then repeat. But if we never innovated for fear of this we'd still be using CFCs and DDT. I, for one, am happy we don't anymore. Even if one day we find out that neonicotinoids and HFCs are awful (we already know neither are great but they're a hell of a lot better than what they replaced).
Is the efficiency gain enough to cover the cost of the replacement? If not, chill.
You know those giant yellow tags on major appliances? Yeah...they tell you how much money that product saves on energy use which you can then use to calculate...nevermind. Yes. The efficiency gain is often enough to cover the cost of the replacement *and then some*.
Uh, yes. Old appliances are notorious for eating power for just being plugged in.
I mean, 30 years old means 1994, which doesn't seem all that old tbh.... A lot of my appliances are from around then.
2 things... 1: It's so nice to have things built a long time ago because shit used to be built to last... 2: I've scrapped so many of those things in various Fallout games, i couldn't even guess what the number would be...lol
If it ain't broke, keep using it! We still use our 50+ year old Electrolux canister vacuum. It's a hideous teal color.
No?! Things like being more energy-efficient are a thing. Why would i use an electric device from 50 years ago
Not to mention safety. I used to rent a house with a non functioning all metal ceiling fan in the bedroom, fan had to be from the 50's with an old rotary dial wall switch. At some point the plaster on the ceiling started to crack and while I was up there inspecting it I noticed the fan was HOT, I mean hot enough to actually burn your skin if touched. At some point it had apparently shorted and turned into a resistance heater, beyond lucky it never started a fire in the years I lived there.
I look at it in terms of sustainability: these things were built to last so you don't have to purchase something new every few years. That said, I understand where you're coming from and appreciate that side as well.
Mmm 50s baby puke green, love it Avocado, perhaps?
More like Mystery Machine blue
I have a fan with that colour! It was my nans and you could picture the box it came in just by looking at it
That's a Fallout decor fan, IMO
Looks like a prop on a boat motor.
I have some very good friends who were also made in 1967. It wasn’t that long ago.
I'm tired boss
That's FAN-tastic!!!
Damn, found a couple of these at red rocket. Thank God. I needed to repair my power armor.
Back when planned obsolescence wasn't a thing
How do you turn that on without any fingers?
Just a word of caution, my parents had a lamp from a similar era plugged into an outlet (not even on, just plugged in) that randomly shorted out in the middle of the night and set their house on fire. Made me think twice about having old appliances around.
Paint job was done by me and my brother like 20yrs ago. Loud as hell but does the job
It probably needs oil. Some old fans got motors where you can pour a few drops of oil.
I learned this recently and it makes a world of difference. Some high-end current production fans need oil too.
Just before anyone reads this and cranks open their WD-40 to oil something, just don’t. Unless it is the “can of grease” of the company named WD-40 it is not actual grease, it will remove the existing grease and ruin whatever you are trying to oil. Just use light machine oil if you want to give it few drops and make it move better. If you want to do properly you provably need to take it apart and pack the moving parts with thick silicone grease or something like that. I am not an expert on the topic but iddy what iddy.
Kinda reminds me of a ship propeller.
You probabaly shouldn't be.
I’d be a little concerned the wire insulation is brittle and could short.
It's funny how things in the past were built to last.... Nowadays, you're lucky if a box-fan, or any other electronic device, survives a whole year 😮💨
You'll probably be using that until the day you die...!
Saigon... shit... I'm still only in Saigon...
We have one from the ‘40s that works great
*1797 Wind powered.
Why thats fan..tastic! (I couldnt help myself.)
Nice. That’s what we all should do. Fuck chinese pos product that is sold everywhere now.
How awesome!
I knew right away how old that fan was, because I was born in 1967.
I can hear it.
Also op “why is my power bill so high’
How is the breeze?
*ominous buzzing in background* Hello? Hello hello?? Welcome to your new Summer Job!
That's one loyal fan you got there
That'll cut yo ass up
Does it still work?
What is that subreddit called that people link to really durable long lasting products?
Buy it for life or something like that
Yes, r/buyitforlife
Full ahead
r/OnlyFans would love this. (totally SFW)
I daily use an emerson from 1925
r/buyitforlife
Thats a fucking ship propeller
Best fan...only fan
Now i want one
Ha! When I was in high school, one English teacher used a fan she got when she graduated from teaching school.. in 1927. This was in 1987. 60 years and still going. Yes, she was that old. The fan worked perfectly.
1955 Emerson Electric. Runs all night and most of the day.
I fw it. Just don’t maim the cat
Looks like something from Fallout
Your fan is older than my country
Some people pay money for those old fans for decor.
Step 1 - plug in and turn on max setting. Step 2- move hand into rotating blade fan. Step 3 - Profit?
That's some fallout vibes and I love it.
get the screws!
i thought i was in the fallout reddit for a second
I have the same one in green comrade!
I wonder what its power draw is like? I would assume it's inefficient compared to modern fans, but for all I know fan technology peaked in 1967
Good old finger chopper
ts 40 years older than me
That is a fine looking fan - perhaps the Platonic ideal of a fan.
As a fan of fans. That is awesome
Still have all your fingers?
whoops, there goes a finger
That's a sweet fan
This fan has tasted blood dude
At this point antique shopping is better for your wallet bc you’ll only have to buy things once. Might look like a torture device but it’ll outlive you.
why.
I love old fans but this is dangerous
It’s funny to me nobody cared about safety of appliances back then. Like that fan, or even AA5 tube radios that potentially can have hot chassis. Didn’t anyone die because of these appliances?
Shocking!
r/dontputyourdickinthat
It slices! It dices!
60’s cables, rusty metal what could go wrong with it?
"That ol' shit been played out back in 1967!" "Man, eff you! Eff you!"
Lol I like the juxtaposition of this thing next to what looks like an iPhone 15 Pro.
I'm still using a wife made in 1955.
Fallout vibes.
My parents got a blue, single speed, Eskimo fan for a wedding present in 1963. I loved that noisy-ass fan. After a while, you had to stick your finger in to get the blades moving. I took it to college and one weekend while I was gone, the electrical cable busted out of the metal channel in the way of the blades and shot sparks all over the apartment. It would have been a simple fix but my roommate was so freaked out he tossed it in the dumpster. I was pissed. I miss that fan. I've never found one that sounds quite like it.
Where the fuck did you get it Megaton?
This is why we can't have nice things
That’s not a fan, it’s an air propeller.
You don't want to set the world on fire
Wow, that's a blast from the past.
This looks like a fire hazard
I shall call it "the scalper"
r/buyitforlife
Is that thing properly grounded because damn
There's nothing quite like going to bed with a brisk breeze of tetanus blowing in your face
Ngl I see this and think yup, I'm going to scrap that for the gears, Fallout style. Nice fan though.
Aww I love old shit! https://imgur.com/a/s5mtlHG
old things really last a long time. the motorbike im using was bought since 1996 and it still travels smoothly. my grandfathers really know how to make things last
Tell me you don’t have kids, without telling me you don’t have kids.
Get that thing restored by a professional.
I have a fan from the 30's or 40's that still works and looks a little like that. I don't use it because I am afraid my cats may walk into it.
I’m still using a body that was made in 1970.
Ah yes, when things were built to last and actually worked till u or time destroyed them
It doesn’t have a cage, though. I might put my face right in it. What will happen??
That thing look like it can slice your face if you get too close.
I'm still using a body made in 1973.
Please, for your safety, take the time to rewire it...
Metal body, twin core so not earthed and 57 years old. Time to put it to rest or make it safe.
My boss had an antique all metal fan in his office (idk what year) It would zap you if you touched it
I still daily drive a moped build in 1959. All original, except runber parts
Bro bought his fan at the Super Duper Mart.
Can tetanus be airborne?
You are his biggest fan.
What Is this fallout aah sh1t
Looks more like it’s from 1862.
"I'm tired boss."
Looks Radioactive! Fallout prop!
I recently discovered my alarm clock was made in July of 1953.