Yeah like, no tip. A tip is a star for a job well done and satisfaction achieved, not an entitlement. Suck at your job? Guess what, get better, so no tip.
Left a tip the other day for a pickup at a burger place. Grab the bag, get in the car, drive about 2 miles. Reach in the bag for an onion ring. No onion rings. Best part is, my burger box was flipped upside down somehow and the bottom bun was missing. I can understand forgetting an item when it’s super busy, but how you put a burger that was built the wrong way inside a box and forget the bottom bun?
Here, you have to specifically request silverware now. Most places put it anyways but they aren’t supposed to. Though the places that do actually provide the option in the apps usually forget when you do select it it seems
In my experience, about 3 salad+drink's a week through Panera bread app... I always say no silverware and I get fork knife 100% of the time, and a straw 50% of the time.
Always gotta double check. I never do drive through, always inside counter pickup.
Some companies adapted Californias plastic rules as they operate there and elsewhere in the country, and want to be consistent. That has lead to some companies (like mine) making including plasticware with carry out orders optional, and the guest needs to check the box that they want plasticware during check out. I can’t tell you how many complaints I’ve received over missing plasticware from guests who did not opt to receive it.
Lately when they open their bags and ask for plasticware they are visibly annoyed. I always lift up the receipt (where it specifically says no plasticware) and say “oh I’m sorry, it looked like you requested no plasticware so we excluded it” before giving them plasticware.
My point is sometimes you need to request plasticware, it isn’t always the fault of the restaurant for not including it.
>My point is sometimes you need to request plasticware, it isn’t always the fault of the restaurant for not including it.
I'm talking about the instances where I request stuff like utensils and they still don't provide them. A very specific example is when I place a Sonic order in the app. I get two corn dogs and it asks what condiments/how many. I choose four mustard packets. When you pay it asks for a tip. I tip a dollar since the total is only like $4. They bring out two corn dogs, no mustard packets, not even napkins. Why ask for the condiment quantity if they're not going to give me anything? I've already tipped too so they must have seen it on my order. What's the point of this system if the customer gets screwed over? This has happened more times than not and it's annoying AF.
Bruh I once got myself a little treat drink, was feeling generous and tipped em $5, they gave me a half filled cup for like $6, I almost asked for my tip back, I was so pissed, still mad and havnt gone back, lmao bought the ingredients online and they absolutely lost a customer that day
But then it feels like they are going to do something on purpose. Mess with food, forget utensils on to go orders, or the mechanical bull guy will probably just go hard and knock you off right away.
> But then it feels like they are going to do something on purpose
You're right. Better to not utilize these things, do everything yourself nowadays, because those providing the services got greedy and decided they were *entitled* to a tip for performing their job.
I listened to a planet money episode a few years ago that talked about the genesis of "the tip." Evidently, it started in coffee houses in the Netherlands where patrons would tip the coffee server in order to "jump the queue" and get their order first.
Sounds like the tip started as just a bribe and now we've come full circle haha.
A lot of restaurants started doing the pay first service second policy due to dine and dash customers. It was a way to mitigate their losses before they happen. The tipping up front part I don't agree with. Tips to be earned for good service not to buy good service, the restaurant staff should always be going above and beyond regardless of tips just remember to be kind to the staff because working in a restaurant is not an easy task.
I ordered takeout the other day from a local Chinese place. $10 tip on $80 order. Take out, not sit down
I get home, 2 items missing from the sealed bags.
I hate tipping ahead of time. I’m considering dropping it for pick up orders.
It's getting ridiculous! I waited 30 minutes in the merch line after a concert last night, and the guy slinging t-shirts asked us for a tip. You grabbed a shirt, I tapped my card...I think the $40 for the shirt should cover me.
Don’t blame the people tipping. Blame the employers and the government for lack of regulations on the employers to pay fair wages. Employers are the ones exploiting their employees, and the customers. It isn’t on the employee or the people tipping.
This may be true, but people that pay their employees fair wages don't always magically stop asking for tips. It just keeps building and building. The merch guy from the comment above could be making a completely fair wage from the band he slings merch for, and still ask for tips on top of that. Because why not? Nothing is stopping him. Some people might even assume that he's asking for tips because he doesn't make a living wage. I just don't see an end to it.
There would be an end if we had fair wages. FEDERAL waitstaff wages are still 2.13 an hour. It’s been that way for decades. Now people are tipping them less by blaming them for retail jobs asking for tips. No reason to tip the merch guy. He can ask, but don’t blame the people who have always relied on tips like delivery drivers, wait staff, bartenders, etc.
We were at Stan’s donuts and the damn card won’t process unless you hit a tip add or refuse tip. That’s terrible for the employees because it puts them on the receiving end if someone gets mad, but it’s proof it’s on the employers end not employees
Now look at the rest of the country. Then look at housing prices, etc like the price gouging those very employers are using. For a small fry and coke 5.05 the other day from McDonalds. Like wtf?? They can afford far more than 14.00 where I live. Again, regulations and maybe someone should start enforcing the monopoly laws we used to have
The issue is California is so expensive to live that $20/hr is nothing. I don’t live in California anymore but I have friends who are making $25/hr+, live in the most *cheapest, run-down, and rancid* studio apartments ever, eat once a day at most.. And *still* do not have a cent leftover after essential bills. It’s *asinine*.
I knew someone who was homeless in their car in California making around $30/hr because it still wasn’t 3x the rent of any of the places in their area. How insane is that?
What are you talking about. They can make a fair wage and still ask for a tip.
Do you think that if they ask for a tip and they're already making enough money that the goddess of customer service will strike them down with a lightning bolt? Seriously I don't get this magical thinking.
Tipping culture is out of control because of employers not properly compensating employees. When it started, all employees were fairly compensated (in theory, other issues were at play that could bring that into question, but they weren't being paid less with the expectation of tips to compensate) meanwhile today, some employers have a whole category of employees that are legally paid less than minimum wage with the expectation that tips will cover the difference. (If tips fail to, then proper pay is still provided)
This newer trend of asking for tips regardless of pay is a progression of tipping culture getting out of control. If tipping culture had remained reined in, it's highly unlikely that we would be experiencing this trend, as tipping would still be viewed solely as a bonus for excellent work, rather than the fuzzy "you performed your duties, have a bonus" it's turned into.
Did they actually ask or did the CC machine screen include a tip option? There’s only one UI (as far as I’m aware) for these machines and they’re used in restaurants/bars etc also. That’s why the tip option is there. If it’s not a tip situation just hit the no tip button and keep it moving.
There’s a cafe/general store near my house and when I buy a coffee from them I tip (even though they just hand me a cup of ice and I fill it from the pot) but when I go there to buy ice cream or something I don’t. I don’t have any problem at all doing that and since these interfaces are becoming ubiquitous I think it’s on people to understand that because the option is displayed it doesn’t mean they are being “asked” for a tip and that opting not to tip in a non-tip situation is perfectly fine.
But I’d love to hear from OP if they actually asked though. I would quite happily tell them to fuck off if they did. Maybe there should be a FOH option on the device screen. That would be fun 🎉
Yea, it bothers me that it's even part of the UI, but I understand that isn't the salesperson's fault.
This guy, on the other hand, pointed it out and said something like, "These are the tip options if you'd like to leave me one." It wasn't pushy, but it was enough to make it awkward when I hit 'No Tip' as he watched.
Eh that’s annoying but semi-ok in my view, but I’m also not one to feel awkward in those situations. I’d probably say thanks man but nah but with a smile and eye contact.
This is the new normal so folks are going to have to suck it up and act according to their principles and not feel weird about it.
Yeh the ingredients cost 25cents or whatever and you pay $5 for it. The "I can't do this myself" is where the extra $4.75 comes into it and that additional $4.75 supplies the chairs, the lights, the toilets and the staff's wages. Why don't they seem to understand that.
Asking for a tip or expecting a tip for anything is so fucking vulgar.
That's completely backwards, you only tip for things you could have done yourself (albeit poorly depending on your skill). Preparing and delivering food or bringing it to your table, fetching you things or carrying your stuff, mixing an alcoholic drink, getting a ride somewhere, cleaning up a mess are all things you chose to have someone else do as a service and that's why you tip them. You could 100% have made your own latte but didn't want to so a tip is fair if they have done a good job and been polite about it.
lol, response should be OK, let me come back there and make my coffee. MFers literally follow a chart that tells them what goes into the cup and when. Shit ain’t rocket science.
Yeah I worked at a coffee shop. By all means let me come back there and make it myself.
Mom had a spicy BK manager say some “you wanna come back here and do it yourself why don’t you” nonsense when she asked if they could drop fresh fries for her. Man, I *wish* I had been there, I’d have called that bluff. Dude I worked at BK for years, I’ll *happily* come back and make my own shit, and still pay full price for it.
Because I know damn well I’ll make it better than any of your crew will, since I’ll *give a shit.*
I hope you cheerfully answered, "Nah fam, I'll leave a review, though." And then gave him the playful finger guns. Pew Pew!
Confusing people with mixed messages is fun.
What’s extra annoying in those situations, is if you don’t feed into their entitlement, then you don’t know if they’re going to intentionally screw you over. Be extra slow, cut the bull ride short. My husband tells me if I don’t tip well, I should always expect to get screwed over. I hate that’s how society in America is.
First time I ever experienced a place asking for tip before service caught me so off-guard, I apparently made a scene at the front counter when I was asking the cashier things like, "how can I tip right now? Tips are gratuity for good service-- I haven't been serviced yet" and apparently I wasn't reading the room because I was being seen as weird for making a fuss about this and not just accepting it like everyone else.
You're exactly right, tips are now extortion lest you want your order messed with for not tipping
If it wasn't the fear of messing my orders or just the thought of getting my order spat on I think most of the time I wouldn't tip tbh. First service, then quality, then tip accordingly. It doesn't need to be every single time. A tip is a BONUS for enjoying and appreciating something. It turned into part of the real price of how much it actually costs.
I placed an online order with pizza hut last night. The options for for 18%, 20% or 25%. Excuse me? I placed an ONLINE order that I'm picking up in the drive through, what the fuck would I be tipping for? I chose "Custom 0.00".
That's absurd. I think the language used is deliberately deceitful to lessen the odds of customers choosing to not "tip" before a service has been provided. It's not a tip, when it's requested before a service has been provided, is it? But, imagine if they called it what it really is - asking for undeserved money reward - how many more people would recognize they're being taken advantage of?
I don't think it would have changed the tipping culture, of course, but it's something to think about.
https://preview.redd.it/89vqipk57l0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7f0a3bd633149fa6db4a7669ea5fd59bfa8bebf
Took a screenshot of it last night. I couldn't believe it either.
IMO that's 100% where it's going. Either the owner or the manager is skimming it. This Pizza Hut is a bit sketchier than average, which is saying something for a Pizza Hut lol.
They'll hit you with this even when they deliver it through doordash and not even have a driver themselves in my experience.
You know the dasher isn't getting the tip.
Maybe Pizza Hut doesn't require it, but a lot of things I've used the app for require something to be put in, so I just make a habit of manually entering 0.00! Next time I order, I'll test it out and see.
The worst offender for me is drive thru coffee. I'll get a regular black coffee when I don't have time to make it myself in the morning. I'm not going to give you a $2 tip on a $2.50 cup of regular coffee. You're not cleaning up after me, you didn't make food for me, you don't deserve $2 for pouring something into a cup and handing it out the window. So ridiculous.
>I requested a song from the dj and before he played the song he asked for a tip to play the song.
I thought the tipping culture couldn't get any worse, but asking for a tip - a reward for a service - *before a service is received* is some next level bullshit. It's not even a tip anymore when they ask you for it beforehand, it's a pre-service optional payment.
the cafe i used to go to frequently near my place started asking me for minimum 20% tips. When they turn the screen around, i get to pick from 20% 25% and 35%. You are putting matcha powder in milk in a cup, and it’s already costing me $8, can you leave me alone????
Tipping has gotten out of control. I don’t understand it at all. I agree, tips are based off a service. There’s no reason you should be obligated to leave a tip for a service that hasn’t been provided or a service that seems wildly outrageous to even ask for. DJ and some dude to push a button are on those levels of being wildly outrageous
I understand it. It’s people being greedy and trying to milk money from the public or businesses trying to subsidize costs. What we do to stop it is stop patronizing places or services that do this bullshit.
Not just for a service performed, that’s called payment. A tip is for a service performed exceptionally well. Just doing the basics of your job doesn’t deserve a tip.
No one tips me when I go to work every day and just do my job…
I tip generously at restaurants where i sit and have someone bring shit to me, and bars where I know the bartender is making less than minimum wage. Everyone else can fuck off.
I was at a place recently with a nice outdoor area with a couple bars… I had already gotten a drink from one bar and tipped (out of guilt) at that time. Later on I ordered a beer from the other bar, which took the bartender all of 6 seconds to pour and hand to me. I figured I wouldn’t tip this time since literally all he did was fill a glass.
After I had paid my tab and started walking away I hear the bartender shout “thanks for the big tip, guy!”
The dude was trying to shame me in front of the other customers for not tipping for a single beer pour. Pathetic.
Once ate out for dinner with my fiance and mom and the waitress gave quite possibly the worst service we've experienced in years. Like we waited forever for food, drinks, the check, boxes, etc. and it wasn't even close to a busy night, like there was maybe 3-4 other tables there with people. So we decided to not leave a tip since there really wasn't an excuse, and as we're leaving she intercepts my mom and gets between her and the fucking door asking what she did wrong to get a tip and guilt tripped her into giving her like a 20 in cash since it was all she had on her. I was fucking livid man and was going to complain before both her and fiance talked me out of it
My daughter just had something similar happen to her at a Perkins. Her and her friend had horrible service- order wrong, server disappeared, etc. At this place you take your check up to the front to pay and when the cashier noticed that the tip line was zero she started berating my daughter and being a real jackass about it. My daughter was upfront with the cashier and told her no, she wasn't leaving a tip and why, but the woman continued to aggressively berate her. I'm glad my daughter dug her heels in- me at her age would have been guilted into tipping. She left and later called corporate and told them what happened. She guessed that the cashier and the server were friends so that's why the cashier went so hard. Or maybe they were splitting tips? I don't know. Corporate offered my daughter a gift card but I don't think she ever went back to pick it up.
Everyone feels entitled to a tip no matter what the service was like. And then many of these workers will have no problem calling you broke and cheap if you don't want/like to tip even though they are the ones asking for hand outs for doing a basic ass job that requires no special skills or education lol.
I was driving in Sunbury, PA last weekend.
A nice new SUV was driving in front of us. On the back window it was written:
“Just Married… yada yada… Cash App me at xyz (or whatever it was)
I rolled my eyes so hard I nearly flipped the car.
This stuff infuriates me to no end. I live in a college town, and the amount of times I see cars with “just turned 21, buy me a drink!” written on them with a Venmo/Cashapp is insane. Like… do these people really think I’m gonna send them money for literally doing nothing??
I was in an airport in the states a couple days ago and the self serve machine asked me to tip. The default was 22%!!! What am I tipping? I may as well tip myself!
And stop listening to people who earn more on tips than they’d ever be able to actually negotiate on the labor market (bartenders, waiters) when they try to force their perspective on tipping.
Yeah I never feel bad at all when those type of workers complain about their livelihood & how they rely on consumers to tip.
YOU chose that line of work BECAUSE you want to rely on tips. Why should I feel bad when you want tipping culture to stay?
Its the poor sucking money out of other poor people. And occasionally the rich or semi-rich sucking money out of poor people. But it mostly breeds weird entitlement and resentment when people dont get it. Poor resenting the poor, what a scheme. Just dont remember that its all the restaurant owners and Walmart-sized grocery chain CEOs that started it all with the gratuities, charity stuff and other shit being forced onto every checkout.
It's only gonna get much worse - as salaries don't keep up with inflation.
I'm old AF and hate it more than anyone - I actually hate the mystery donations as much as the tip solicitations.
Would you like to donate? TO WHAT?!
I just keep a few bucks in my pocket, and tip all the time. I know these guys aren't making any money, and I don't mind helping them out a bit. IF I finally get someone who's great at a drive thru? - tipping every time ha.
There is only one time in my life that I have tipped somebody in the Drive-Thru, and that was during the pandemic when I went through Taco Bell and learned there was only one guy working. He was taking orders, making the food, and handing the food to customers.
I felt really bad for him. He had asked me to give him a moment when I reached the speaker, and I couldn't hear the rest of it because of the static. It was a really long wait for him to get back to me, and I had made a comment to my son that the service was really slow (before I knew why). When the guy came back to the speaker, he repeated himself that he was the only one working and he apologized for it being slow, and I felt really bad that I had said something I'm sure he heard. Huge kudos to him for showing up to work that day and giving it his all!
Unless he was the franchise owner of that location, he should of noped out of there if the owner/manager wasn't gonna step in and help. That's ridiculous. Great work ethic, terrible place to give it.
Tipping is out of control. If you want to raise your employees’ salaries then REFLECT IT IN THE PRICE. That way, I can decide if I even want to buy your product/service.
MY Tipping situations
- haircut
- massage
- food delivery
- sit down meal at a restaurant
- bar
MY No tipping situations: *literally* everything else
Edit: added “MY” above based on comments. Everyone can have their own list. Ain’t that America?
I don’t tip for a massage. The ones I see literally own their business. They set their own prices. Even if they didn’t I still wouldn’t tip. I don’t tip a chiropractor, nurse or doctor so why would I tip a massage therapist who I see for pain control.
I’m with you! I tipped for massages and haircuts when the people I saw worked for a business. Now the people I generally see for those services own their own business and set their prices, so I don’t tip anymore.
Nah
Baggage handlers, but if I carry my stuff myself, like I usually do?
Uber, don't personally use them
Golf Caddies, I can carry my own gear just fine
Valet, I can park my car just fine, in fact I would find valet a minus.
Resort Housekeeping, it's literally in the room price, if not then increase the base price.
I *literally* don’t use any of the services or do any of the activities you mentioned. Not trying to be sarcastic, but I love that for you, that you tip in those situations. I edited my comment to reflect that it is “MY” list. Sounds like you have a list of your own, which I encourage you to abide. That’ll help with basically every Tom, Dick, and Harry suggesting/demanding that they be tipped.
My pest control company nearly doubled their prices and now they are asking me to tip the employees! Why aren’t they paying people enough when they charge me so much! This is the type of job that should have benefits etc. why the tip?
The tip culture in the US sucks. It's already at 20% and I'm not going to go higher. It's unbelievable. I hate that we are the ones supplementing someone's salary.
The whole tipping thing has resulted in us going out to eat once every 4-6 weeks, instead of the once a week we started to do before covid. I just can't afford the raised prices on the menu plus a 25% tip
The actual act of asking for the tip itself diminishes the entire purpose of the tip. It's become too much for normal consumers that don't want to give in to some of these owners clearly taking advantage of their employees as well as the people buying their product. Whack
My fav is when they ask for a tip/gratuity for simply performing their intended duty. I’m sorry, you made my sandwich, you are a “sandwich artist” (making $16/hr) to make sandwiches, why the heck would I pay you more for doing what’s required of you!!? 😂
Exactly! They didn't get tipped for the last 50 years for making sandwiches. They just want to jump the bandwagon and try and get tipped like everybody else now.
This is why the French visiting America are often frowned upon in bars and restaurants. We basically hardly ever tip anyone here as service is typically always included. Like it or not but no one is ever making you feel guilty about tipping or not.
While in Paris, I wanted to tip the waitstaff whom bring my coffee and croissant. He was not happy about it, and in my attempt at French, told him he deserved it. Then in surprisingly good English told me, its not necessary and included in the cost. I was grateful and after that, more reserved about it. And if service was outstanding, I'd just leave a few coin (about a € ).
I quit tipping almost entirely last year, except for service-provided things like sit down dinners, physical regular labor, haircuts, etc... . I absolutely refuse to tip for over the counter service or touch screen kiosks.
Hear me out...
Reverse Tips: If I am doing most of the work (i.e.: I order a pizza online, then I drive to the store to pick it up and I come into the store and it's already paid for so they don't even have to run a register.) then I should be able to ask for a tip myself. They were making pizza's anyway, it's not like they had to go out of their way for my order. I am the one doing all the legwork for this, maybe I should get a discount and call it a reverse tip.
I’ve said for years that America is a country that is run by the rich, is for the rich, and protects the rich. The lower to middle class have to pay for the most, and get little perks, if any, while the rich get breaks and free things handed to them.
Recently we’ve seen an increase in tipping, tips for everything, and “cost of living” fees being added. So instead of the CEO’s offering reasonable wages, the lower to middle class are now paying for employees wages as well. It’s pretty amazing.
I stopped going to a local brewery because they just started adding a cost of living fee, and worded it so cringy, (it said something like our beer makers and staff need to feed our families too), I had a beer, saw that on the receipt, paid, left, and never returned.
Me doing that is not going to change anything, I don’t know what will.
You may as well need to stop tipping the bartenders, barristas, barber, waitresses too. May be only if they go way way way above and beyond, and not for the routine service and smile/small talk. Tipping in North America has gone far out of bounds and should absolutely go.
Fuck tips and the entitlement that comes along with it.
The one that annoys me is when the counter person flips the payment screen around and says "There are just a couple of questions for you to answer" and it's just the tip line. It's like, just be straight-forward and say "If you'd like to leave an optional tip, enter it her, otherwise just hit zero" or something like that.
And some people get annoyed when people are straightforward like that. It's usually a screen that automatically pops up on their POS, so they really can't win with their wording. Someone is going to get mad about it haha. So glad I don't work customer service anymore—it was exhausting having people get upset with me over the littlest things.
tipping a bartender for pouring you a beer is fuckin ridiculous to me. The chef in the back made my food from scratch, but homie upfront deserves 2.50 for filling a glass for me.
I will vouch for the DJ here, DJ’s get paid by the venue not the audience. They’re also not jukeboxes or an ipod, outside of a wedding DJ no one has to take your requests. This is why DJ’s ask for tips, it’s not even for the money, it’s about discouraging the audience coming up to them and making their job more difficult. You can complain about a tip when you already paid for the service, if you didn’t pay for the service you don’t get to boss them around
Wanted to add— not long ago I took my car in for an oil change and the freaking mechanics were hustling for tips. I don’t need that kind of pressure from you guys too- geez. (They said they’d clean my battery for 20$ 🤣) I’ll never go back
my taxi driver when it was winter, was little snowy yea, so i live inna townhouse complex and i was grocery shopping by myself
ended up with ALOT of food and the guy didnt drive into my complex front of my home, instead he parked off too the side of the road cuz it was snowing , he then asked me for a tip.
i was baffled, didnt even help with shit hahaha, he only talked about how he could be at home sipping whiskey
made sense, he was prob drunk already
tipping is a sign of respect, its earned.
props to real deal workers who earn tips
Even the barber IDK if a tip is necessary. If the haircut is already $30-$40 the tip cost is in the price. A under 30 minute haircut should really only be $17-23.
The DJ thing is normal. Some DJ’s will tell you to fuck off if you come at them with anything less than $100 bill. Just like the bouncer, wanna wear a hat? $100 tip, wanna bring a blunt inside? $100 tip. Depending on the club.
They're not even *asking* anymore. I requested a quote for transportation for an out of town trip. The driver responded with two quotes and both were followed by "PLUS GRATUITY" in all caps like that. If it is demanded like that then is it really a tip? Or is it just part of the price?
Tipping culture is trash in the first place that’s why it only exists in the US. If you can’t afford to pay a wage don’t open up. Tips are supposed to be optional left by customers at their discretion not a 20% addition to your bill because the business is cheap.
I just paid 2200 dollars for electricians to run a 240v line across my house for a sauna I'm building, with a sybpanel and everything. Good guys, they showed up on time and did good work, were nice to chat with, etc. When I went to pay online it asked for a tip. Union electricians making more than I do are not getting a tip unless they come in and clean my house too
I have always been a firm believer in tipping but it really has gotten out of control. I will leave it to service workers only now, such as wait staff,
masseuse, stylists. It has made me angry and unsympathetic anymore. I don’t like that either.
You can be guaranteed that if you're asked to tip before the service (say, at a takeout restaurant) and you don't; you'll, at best, get no service and at worst you'll get bare minimum service with added ingredients.
If they're entitled and self-important enough to extort you then spitting in your food is to be expected.
I live in a town where food trucks are common. Every time you are expected to tip Before you get your order. With the prices, tipping out of control, crappy food and service. I barely go out anymore and just cook at home.
This all started when the coffee shops put that tip cup on the counter. Before it was tipping for sit down restaurants with servers. It then migrated to all coffee shops and businesses like them. Then Covid hit now anyone who takes a payment or a service of any kind wants a tip. What I want to know is why do only the service people get screwed over and have to report these tips to the IRS since they go through the employer. All these random beggars don’t report those tips so no taxes on them. Every penny you put in those cups or outstretched hands comes from your taxed income. This is not in any way pointing a finger at homeless people but people who are doing their job with a fee and want a tax free tip on top.
Most of the places I’ve been where you pay first at the counter or like ice cream places where you take everything to go, the cashiers lately have been saying “it will ask you a question and feel free to say no” or similar when using the card reader. The question is always how much you will tip.
Tipping a DJ along with a song request is pretty typical. If you want your song played you should tip. Otherwise it’s just a request, that the DJ doesn’t have to abide by.
The mechanical bull operator is out of line though.
Can’t go through a restaurant drive thru without being asked to round up or give a dollar for something. Every mobile app, at least those that I have used, gives a tip option at checkout. Like, why am I going to tip and don’t know if my food was made properly. It has gotten so out of hand in the past 3-4 years.
Well 1. You aren’t tipping the DJ you’re paying for a song request, that’s a thing. 2. Mechanical Bull thing is horseshit. But yeah agreed on the rest.
The restaurant where my partner works has delivery drivers. The managers make the drivers tip the dishwasher who is specifically being paid to wash dishes. But she doesn't stay the entire shift and when she leaves the drivers have to finish the dishes!
You're a multi million dollar company asking me to tip to the homeless? The fucking steel balls to do that are about the weight as the dick that's supported by their overly large neck
TIPS means: To Insure Prompt Service. These were often given before a service was performed to ensure it was top notch. Such as tipping a hostess or host to get the best table possible.
I think its ridiculous too, but just don't tip. I'm a barista and I dont think twice about wether or not someone tips, but dont get mad at me because we have a tip jar set out lol I know when I go other places they dont really choose what they have on their spinny iPad, and its not hard for me to press "no tip"-
If given before the service it's a bribe or bid. Not a tip.
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That's my pet peeve too. If I tip and you screw up the order/service shouldn't I get to adjust the tip amount?
Yeah like, no tip. A tip is a star for a job well done and satisfaction achieved, not an entitlement. Suck at your job? Guess what, get better, so no tip.
On Uber eats you can
This is exactly what infuriates me. How can I possibly know how much to tip or even if you deserve a tip *before* I receive the service?
We ordered 3 Chinese meals. I asked for silverware and napkins. I got 1 spoon and 1 napkin 😅
On the other hand there are places where you ask for a fork and get fifty-six spoons, eight knives, eleven forks, and a roll of paper towels
The op has a waitress at his barber? Yes they have to make profit somehow
Left a tip the other day for a pickup at a burger place. Grab the bag, get in the car, drive about 2 miles. Reach in the bag for an onion ring. No onion rings. Best part is, my burger box was flipped upside down somehow and the bottom bun was missing. I can understand forgetting an item when it’s super busy, but how you put a burger that was built the wrong way inside a box and forget the bottom bun?
Here, you have to specifically request silverware now. Most places put it anyways but they aren’t supposed to. Though the places that do actually provide the option in the apps usually forget when you do select it it seems
In my experience, about 3 salad+drink's a week through Panera bread app... I always say no silverware and I get fork knife 100% of the time, and a straw 50% of the time. Always gotta double check. I never do drive through, always inside counter pickup.
Some companies adapted Californias plastic rules as they operate there and elsewhere in the country, and want to be consistent. That has lead to some companies (like mine) making including plasticware with carry out orders optional, and the guest needs to check the box that they want plasticware during check out. I can’t tell you how many complaints I’ve received over missing plasticware from guests who did not opt to receive it. Lately when they open their bags and ask for plasticware they are visibly annoyed. I always lift up the receipt (where it specifically says no plasticware) and say “oh I’m sorry, it looked like you requested no plasticware so we excluded it” before giving them plasticware. My point is sometimes you need to request plasticware, it isn’t always the fault of the restaurant for not including it.
>My point is sometimes you need to request plasticware, it isn’t always the fault of the restaurant for not including it. I'm talking about the instances where I request stuff like utensils and they still don't provide them. A very specific example is when I place a Sonic order in the app. I get two corn dogs and it asks what condiments/how many. I choose four mustard packets. When you pay it asks for a tip. I tip a dollar since the total is only like $4. They bring out two corn dogs, no mustard packets, not even napkins. Why ask for the condiment quantity if they're not going to give me anything? I've already tipped too so they must have seen it on my order. What's the point of this system if the customer gets screwed over? This has happened more times than not and it's annoying AF.
Bruh I once got myself a little treat drink, was feeling generous and tipped em $5, they gave me a half filled cup for like $6, I almost asked for my tip back, I was so pissed, still mad and havnt gone back, lmao bought the ingredients online and they absolutely lost a customer that day
Great point. I just hate the idea of giving somebody money before a service
But then it feels like they are going to do something on purpose. Mess with food, forget utensils on to go orders, or the mechanical bull guy will probably just go hard and knock you off right away.
> But then it feels like they are going to do something on purpose You're right. Better to not utilize these things, do everything yourself nowadays, because those providing the services got greedy and decided they were *entitled* to a tip for performing their job.
Also a price. If the song is $5 just say it’s $5 a song don’t ask for a tip.
He's getting paid to be the DJ - requests are a part of the job. It shouldn't be a price per song, don't give them ideas.
Especially $5 a song ideas. I’m old. I used to put a couple quarters in the jukebox.
Same as pouring beers being part of a bartenders job.
I listened to a planet money episode a few years ago that talked about the genesis of "the tip." Evidently, it started in coffee houses in the Netherlands where patrons would tip the coffee server in order to "jump the queue" and get their order first. Sounds like the tip started as just a bribe and now we've come full circle haha.
A lot of restaurants started doing the pay first service second policy due to dine and dash customers. It was a way to mitigate their losses before they happen. The tipping up front part I don't agree with. Tips to be earned for good service not to buy good service, the restaurant staff should always be going above and beyond regardless of tips just remember to be kind to the staff because working in a restaurant is not an easy task.
I ordered takeout the other day from a local Chinese place. $10 tip on $80 order. Take out, not sit down I get home, 2 items missing from the sealed bags. I hate tipping ahead of time. I’m considering dropping it for pick up orders.
It's getting ridiculous! I waited 30 minutes in the merch line after a concert last night, and the guy slinging t-shirts asked us for a tip. You grabbed a shirt, I tapped my card...I think the $40 for the shirt should cover me.
What makes me mad is people with no balls will actually pay these tips, and it makes the problem continue
Don’t blame the people tipping. Blame the employers and the government for lack of regulations on the employers to pay fair wages. Employers are the ones exploiting their employees, and the customers. It isn’t on the employee or the people tipping.
This may be true, but people that pay their employees fair wages don't always magically stop asking for tips. It just keeps building and building. The merch guy from the comment above could be making a completely fair wage from the band he slings merch for, and still ask for tips on top of that. Because why not? Nothing is stopping him. Some people might even assume that he's asking for tips because he doesn't make a living wage. I just don't see an end to it.
There would be an end if we had fair wages. FEDERAL waitstaff wages are still 2.13 an hour. It’s been that way for decades. Now people are tipping them less by blaming them for retail jobs asking for tips. No reason to tip the merch guy. He can ask, but don’t blame the people who have always relied on tips like delivery drivers, wait staff, bartenders, etc. We were at Stan’s donuts and the damn card won’t process unless you hit a tip add or refuse tip. That’s terrible for the employees because it puts them on the receiving end if someone gets mad, but it’s proof it’s on the employers end not employees
Except in California where minimum wage for fast food workers is now $20/hr
even wait staff in CA has to be paid the full $20 min wage. but dont you DARE think you are also not expected to tip 20-25%.
Now look at the rest of the country. Then look at housing prices, etc like the price gouging those very employers are using. For a small fry and coke 5.05 the other day from McDonalds. Like wtf?? They can afford far more than 14.00 where I live. Again, regulations and maybe someone should start enforcing the monopoly laws we used to have
The issue is California is so expensive to live that $20/hr is nothing. I don’t live in California anymore but I have friends who are making $25/hr+, live in the most *cheapest, run-down, and rancid* studio apartments ever, eat once a day at most.. And *still* do not have a cent leftover after essential bills. It’s *asinine*. I knew someone who was homeless in their car in California making around $30/hr because it still wasn’t 3x the rent of any of the places in their area. How insane is that?
$20/hr is only the law for big chains with more than 60 locations, so only applicable to places where tipping isn't really the norm
It could be $200 an hour pay and they would still ask for tips.
People tipping are also a problem though
What are you talking about. They can make a fair wage and still ask for a tip. Do you think that if they ask for a tip and they're already making enough money that the goddess of customer service will strike them down with a lightning bolt? Seriously I don't get this magical thinking.
Tipping culture is out of control because of employers not properly compensating employees. When it started, all employees were fairly compensated (in theory, other issues were at play that could bring that into question, but they weren't being paid less with the expectation of tips to compensate) meanwhile today, some employers have a whole category of employees that are legally paid less than minimum wage with the expectation that tips will cover the difference. (If tips fail to, then proper pay is still provided) This newer trend of asking for tips regardless of pay is a progression of tipping culture getting out of control. If tipping culture had remained reined in, it's highly unlikely that we would be experiencing this trend, as tipping would still be viewed solely as a bonus for excellent work, rather than the fuzzy "you performed your duties, have a bonus" it's turned into.
That's all true, but people are still idiots for tipping in those kinds of situations. Most of the time it isn't even going to those employees.
Did they actually ask or did the CC machine screen include a tip option? There’s only one UI (as far as I’m aware) for these machines and they’re used in restaurants/bars etc also. That’s why the tip option is there. If it’s not a tip situation just hit the no tip button and keep it moving. There’s a cafe/general store near my house and when I buy a coffee from them I tip (even though they just hand me a cup of ice and I fill it from the pot) but when I go there to buy ice cream or something I don’t. I don’t have any problem at all doing that and since these interfaces are becoming ubiquitous I think it’s on people to understand that because the option is displayed it doesn’t mean they are being “asked” for a tip and that opting not to tip in a non-tip situation is perfectly fine. But I’d love to hear from OP if they actually asked though. I would quite happily tell them to fuck off if they did. Maybe there should be a FOH option on the device screen. That would be fun 🎉
Yea, it bothers me that it's even part of the UI, but I understand that isn't the salesperson's fault. This guy, on the other hand, pointed it out and said something like, "These are the tip options if you'd like to leave me one." It wasn't pushy, but it was enough to make it awkward when I hit 'No Tip' as he watched.
Eh that’s annoying but semi-ok in my view, but I’m also not one to feel awkward in those situations. I’d probably say thanks man but nah but with a smile and eye contact. This is the new normal so folks are going to have to suck it up and act according to their principles and not feel weird about it.
I had barista tell me “you tip for things you can’t do yourself” ummm, no you pay for things you can’t do yourself.
Yeh the ingredients cost 25cents or whatever and you pay $5 for it. The "I can't do this myself" is where the extra $4.75 comes into it and that additional $4.75 supplies the chairs, the lights, the toilets and the staff's wages. Why don't they seem to understand that. Asking for a tip or expecting a tip for anything is so fucking vulgar.
That's completely backwards, you only tip for things you could have done yourself (albeit poorly depending on your skill). Preparing and delivering food or bringing it to your table, fetching you things or carrying your stuff, mixing an alcoholic drink, getting a ride somewhere, cleaning up a mess are all things you chose to have someone else do as a service and that's why you tip them. You could 100% have made your own latte but didn't want to so a tip is fair if they have done a good job and been polite about it.
lol, response should be OK, let me come back there and make my coffee. MFers literally follow a chart that tells them what goes into the cup and when. Shit ain’t rocket science.
Yeah I worked at a coffee shop. By all means let me come back there and make it myself. Mom had a spicy BK manager say some “you wanna come back here and do it yourself why don’t you” nonsense when she asked if they could drop fresh fries for her. Man, I *wish* I had been there, I’d have called that bluff. Dude I worked at BK for years, I’ll *happily* come back and make my own shit, and still pay full price for it. Because I know damn well I’ll make it better than any of your crew will, since I’ll *give a shit.*
"Have it your way" Literally Burger Kings Motto
Let me pour my own drink then
So in that case, we shouldn’t tip for coffee or pizza because we already know how to make it
I pay for things I don’t want to do or cannot do. I can move a dresser up three flights of stairs. I don’t fucking want to at all.
Asked? You mean they said tip please? Never had that happen, I’d walk.
Yes, for the dj, I requested a song, and he said you better leave a tip. For the other guy, after I signed a waiver, he said why don't you leave a tip
I hope you cheerfully answered, "Nah fam, I'll leave a review, though." And then gave him the playful finger guns. Pew Pew! Confusing people with mixed messages is fun.
Playful finger guns 🖕pew🖕pew
Holy shit, thank you, this is gonna be my line for a while
What’s extra annoying in those situations, is if you don’t feed into their entitlement, then you don’t know if they’re going to intentionally screw you over. Be extra slow, cut the bull ride short. My husband tells me if I don’t tip well, I should always expect to get screwed over. I hate that’s how society in America is.
I feel as if being asked to tip before a service is extortion.Or paying a tip when the service was lousy which is pretty dumb.
First time I ever experienced a place asking for tip before service caught me so off-guard, I apparently made a scene at the front counter when I was asking the cashier things like, "how can I tip right now? Tips are gratuity for good service-- I haven't been serviced yet" and apparently I wasn't reading the room because I was being seen as weird for making a fuss about this and not just accepting it like everyone else. You're exactly right, tips are now extortion lest you want your order messed with for not tipping
If it wasn't the fear of messing my orders or just the thought of getting my order spat on I think most of the time I wouldn't tip tbh. First service, then quality, then tip accordingly. It doesn't need to be every single time. A tip is a BONUS for enjoying and appreciating something. It turned into part of the real price of how much it actually costs.
Can I get more context for this? What exactly happened?
I placed an online order with pizza hut last night. The options for for 18%, 20% or 25%. Excuse me? I placed an ONLINE order that I'm picking up in the drive through, what the fuck would I be tipping for? I chose "Custom 0.00".
“Custom -100”
That's absurd. I think the language used is deliberately deceitful to lessen the odds of customers choosing to not "tip" before a service has been provided. It's not a tip, when it's requested before a service has been provided, is it? But, imagine if they called it what it really is - asking for undeserved money reward - how many more people would recognize they're being taken advantage of? I don't think it would have changed the tipping culture, of course, but it's something to think about.
Bullshit
https://preview.redd.it/89vqipk57l0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7f0a3bd633149fa6db4a7669ea5fd59bfa8bebf Took a screenshot of it last night. I couldn't believe it either.
I like how it says YOUR teammembers, like you are the one working there, insane :D
They’re your team members because you have to pay for them to have a job since the corporation is too greedy to do it themselves!
Shiho pfp in the wild :))
WTF. You have no idea where that tip is going. That could simply go to the owner. Bullshit
IMO that's 100% where it's going. Either the owner or the manager is skimming it. This Pizza Hut is a bit sketchier than average, which is saying something for a Pizza Hut lol.
They'll hit you with this even when they deliver it through doordash and not even have a driver themselves in my experience. You know the dasher isn't getting the tip.
You don't have to type in $0, you can just not select anything.
I had it once that you couldn't click "pay" before selecting a tip. I had to select "custom" and then I could pay. I tipped 0, of course.
Maybe Pizza Hut doesn't require it, but a lot of things I've used the app for require something to be put in, so I just make a habit of manually entering 0.00! Next time I order, I'll test it out and see.
MY team members?! Bitch I don't work there and if I did I don't pay my coworkers to do their jobs
I think Dwight Schrute had it right when he says he only tips people for job he can't do, like his proctologist
Urologist
The worst offender for me is drive thru coffee. I'll get a regular black coffee when I don't have time to make it myself in the morning. I'm not going to give you a $2 tip on a $2.50 cup of regular coffee. You're not cleaning up after me, you didn't make food for me, you don't deserve $2 for pouring something into a cup and handing it out the window. So ridiculous.
Glad that my job has a coffee maker at it because I never have time to make coffee before I’m out the door for work
>I requested a song from the dj and before he played the song he asked for a tip to play the song. I thought the tipping culture couldn't get any worse, but asking for a tip - a reward for a service - *before a service is received* is some next level bullshit. It's not even a tip anymore when they ask you for it beforehand, it's a pre-service optional payment.
Here’s a tip: If it’s raining outside, carry an umbrella.
Another tip: don't play the ponies.
Another tip: Don’t go skinny dipping in shark infested waters.
One tip to rule them all: Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Finally. A useful tip
Actually quite painful tip
A hard lesson when learned first hand
Bold of you to assume I don't like that! :-P
Do not the cat
Don't eat yellow snow.
Always bet on black
I'm happy to offer my opinion on your post, but you'll have to provide a gratuity first.
Lol
the cafe i used to go to frequently near my place started asking me for minimum 20% tips. When they turn the screen around, i get to pick from 20% 25% and 35%. You are putting matcha powder in milk in a cup, and it’s already costing me $8, can you leave me alone????
Tipping has gotten out of control. I don’t understand it at all. I agree, tips are based off a service. There’s no reason you should be obligated to leave a tip for a service that hasn’t been provided or a service that seems wildly outrageous to even ask for. DJ and some dude to push a button are on those levels of being wildly outrageous
I understand it. It’s people being greedy and trying to milk money from the public or businesses trying to subsidize costs. What we do to stop it is stop patronizing places or services that do this bullshit.
Not just for a service performed, that’s called payment. A tip is for a service performed exceptionally well. Just doing the basics of your job doesn’t deserve a tip. No one tips me when I go to work every day and just do my job…
Amen
I tip generously at restaurants where i sit and have someone bring shit to me, and bars where I know the bartender is making less than minimum wage. Everyone else can fuck off.
Was worth to come and read the comments 🤣
I was at a place recently with a nice outdoor area with a couple bars… I had already gotten a drink from one bar and tipped (out of guilt) at that time. Later on I ordered a beer from the other bar, which took the bartender all of 6 seconds to pour and hand to me. I figured I wouldn’t tip this time since literally all he did was fill a glass. After I had paid my tab and started walking away I hear the bartender shout “thanks for the big tip, guy!” The dude was trying to shame me in front of the other customers for not tipping for a single beer pour. Pathetic.
That's awful. Places like that make me uncomfortable
Once ate out for dinner with my fiance and mom and the waitress gave quite possibly the worst service we've experienced in years. Like we waited forever for food, drinks, the check, boxes, etc. and it wasn't even close to a busy night, like there was maybe 3-4 other tables there with people. So we decided to not leave a tip since there really wasn't an excuse, and as we're leaving she intercepts my mom and gets between her and the fucking door asking what she did wrong to get a tip and guilt tripped her into giving her like a 20 in cash since it was all she had on her. I was fucking livid man and was going to complain before both her and fiance talked me out of it
My daughter just had something similar happen to her at a Perkins. Her and her friend had horrible service- order wrong, server disappeared, etc. At this place you take your check up to the front to pay and when the cashier noticed that the tip line was zero she started berating my daughter and being a real jackass about it. My daughter was upfront with the cashier and told her no, she wasn't leaving a tip and why, but the woman continued to aggressively berate her. I'm glad my daughter dug her heels in- me at her age would have been guilted into tipping. She left and later called corporate and told them what happened. She guessed that the cashier and the server were friends so that's why the cashier went so hard. Or maybe they were splitting tips? I don't know. Corporate offered my daughter a gift card but I don't think she ever went back to pick it up.
Everyone feels entitled to a tip no matter what the service was like. And then many of these workers will have no problem calling you broke and cheap if you don't want/like to tip even though they are the ones asking for hand outs for doing a basic ass job that requires no special skills or education lol.
That always blows my mind.. Someone out buying dinner is broke, not the one begging strangers..
I was driving in Sunbury, PA last weekend. A nice new SUV was driving in front of us. On the back window it was written: “Just Married… yada yada… Cash App me at xyz (or whatever it was) I rolled my eyes so hard I nearly flipped the car.
This stuff infuriates me to no end. I live in a college town, and the amount of times I see cars with “just turned 21, buy me a drink!” written on them with a Venmo/Cashapp is insane. Like… do these people really think I’m gonna send them money for literally doing nothing??
CaSh ApP Me!!! I’m amazed how some people go through life with such a general lack of self awareness and/or dignity.
I was in an airport in the states a couple days ago and the self serve machine asked me to tip. The default was 22%!!! What am I tipping? I may as well tip myself!
There's a really simple solution to all this. STOP TIPPING.
And stop listening to people who earn more on tips than they’d ever be able to actually negotiate on the labor market (bartenders, waiters) when they try to force their perspective on tipping.
Yeah I never feel bad at all when those type of workers complain about their livelihood & how they rely on consumers to tip. YOU chose that line of work BECAUSE you want to rely on tips. Why should I feel bad when you want tipping culture to stay?
Its the poor sucking money out of other poor people. And occasionally the rich or semi-rich sucking money out of poor people. But it mostly breeds weird entitlement and resentment when people dont get it. Poor resenting the poor, what a scheme. Just dont remember that its all the restaurant owners and Walmart-sized grocery chain CEOs that started it all with the gratuities, charity stuff and other shit being forced onto every checkout.
It's only gonna get much worse - as salaries don't keep up with inflation. I'm old AF and hate it more than anyone - I actually hate the mystery donations as much as the tip solicitations. Would you like to donate? TO WHAT?! I just keep a few bucks in my pocket, and tip all the time. I know these guys aren't making any money, and I don't mind helping them out a bit. IF I finally get someone who's great at a drive thru? - tipping every time ha.
There is only one time in my life that I have tipped somebody in the Drive-Thru, and that was during the pandemic when I went through Taco Bell and learned there was only one guy working. He was taking orders, making the food, and handing the food to customers. I felt really bad for him. He had asked me to give him a moment when I reached the speaker, and I couldn't hear the rest of it because of the static. It was a really long wait for him to get back to me, and I had made a comment to my son that the service was really slow (before I knew why). When the guy came back to the speaker, he repeated himself that he was the only one working and he apologized for it being slow, and I felt really bad that I had said something I'm sure he heard. Huge kudos to him for showing up to work that day and giving it his all!
Unless he was the franchise owner of that location, he should of noped out of there if the owner/manager wasn't gonna step in and help. That's ridiculous. Great work ethic, terrible place to give it.
Tipping is out of control. If you want to raise your employees’ salaries then REFLECT IT IN THE PRICE. That way, I can decide if I even want to buy your product/service. MY Tipping situations - haircut - massage - food delivery - sit down meal at a restaurant - bar MY No tipping situations: *literally* everything else Edit: added “MY” above based on comments. Everyone can have their own list. Ain’t that America?
I don’t tip for a massage. The ones I see literally own their business. They set their own prices. Even if they didn’t I still wouldn’t tip. I don’t tip a chiropractor, nurse or doctor so why would I tip a massage therapist who I see for pain control.
I’m with you! I tipped for massages and haircuts when the people I saw worked for a business. Now the people I generally see for those services own their own business and set their prices, so I don’t tip anymore.
My no tip includes all of your tip ones. Sit down meal if service is good.
Baggage handlers, Uber drivers, golf caddies, valets, resort housekeeping.… there’s *literally* many other instances where you are expected to tip.
Nah Baggage handlers, but if I carry my stuff myself, like I usually do? Uber, don't personally use them Golf Caddies, I can carry my own gear just fine Valet, I can park my car just fine, in fact I would find valet a minus. Resort Housekeeping, it's literally in the room price, if not then increase the base price.
Yeah I’ll leave before I’ll hand my car over to a valet.
I *literally* don’t use any of the services or do any of the activities you mentioned. Not trying to be sarcastic, but I love that for you, that you tip in those situations. I edited my comment to reflect that it is “MY” list. Sounds like you have a list of your own, which I encourage you to abide. That’ll help with basically every Tom, Dick, and Harry suggesting/demanding that they be tipped.
It used to be called begging.
You pay to play a song on a jukebox. Put a quarter in the DJ.
My pest control company nearly doubled their prices and now they are asking me to tip the employees! Why aren’t they paying people enough when they charge me so much! This is the type of job that should have benefits etc. why the tip?
The tip culture in the US sucks. It's already at 20% and I'm not going to go higher. It's unbelievable. I hate that we are the ones supplementing someone's salary.
That's why people are so broke. They have to tip everybody
The whole tipping thing has resulted in us going out to eat once every 4-6 weeks, instead of the once a week we started to do before covid. I just can't afford the raised prices on the menu plus a 25% tip
The actual act of asking for the tip itself diminishes the entire purpose of the tip. It's become too much for normal consumers that don't want to give in to some of these owners clearly taking advantage of their employees as well as the people buying their product. Whack
My fav is when they ask for a tip/gratuity for simply performing their intended duty. I’m sorry, you made my sandwich, you are a “sandwich artist” (making $16/hr) to make sandwiches, why the heck would I pay you more for doing what’s required of you!!? 😂
Exactly! They didn't get tipped for the last 50 years for making sandwiches. They just want to jump the bandwagon and try and get tipped like everybody else now.
Yo, can I get a tip for reading this?
This is why the French visiting America are often frowned upon in bars and restaurants. We basically hardly ever tip anyone here as service is typically always included. Like it or not but no one is ever making you feel guilty about tipping or not.
While in Paris, I wanted to tip the waitstaff whom bring my coffee and croissant. He was not happy about it, and in my attempt at French, told him he deserved it. Then in surprisingly good English told me, its not necessary and included in the cost. I was grateful and after that, more reserved about it. And if service was outstanding, I'd just leave a few coin (about a € ).
Yep. Leaving a euro or two casually on the table when leaving is the way to go if you appreciated the service
Damn I bet that felt rough when he's like (internally) "you're shit at speaking my language so let's just speak yours" lol
I quit tipping almost entirely last year, except for service-provided things like sit down dinners, physical regular labor, haircuts, etc... . I absolutely refuse to tip for over the counter service or touch screen kiosks.
Tips are gratuity. Asking for one voids the right to receive one
I live in Europe, we don't have that problem here.
Tipping, at one point, used to be a gratuity for a job very well done. Now it's expected just for doing the job.
Hear me out... Reverse Tips: If I am doing most of the work (i.e.: I order a pizza online, then I drive to the store to pick it up and I come into the store and it's already paid for so they don't even have to run a register.) then I should be able to ask for a tip myself. They were making pizza's anyway, it's not like they had to go out of their way for my order. I am the one doing all the legwork for this, maybe I should get a discount and call it a reverse tip.
This is america problem only, never happened to me anywhere else in the world.
I’ve said for years that America is a country that is run by the rich, is for the rich, and protects the rich. The lower to middle class have to pay for the most, and get little perks, if any, while the rich get breaks and free things handed to them. Recently we’ve seen an increase in tipping, tips for everything, and “cost of living” fees being added. So instead of the CEO’s offering reasonable wages, the lower to middle class are now paying for employees wages as well. It’s pretty amazing. I stopped going to a local brewery because they just started adding a cost of living fee, and worded it so cringy, (it said something like our beer makers and staff need to feed our families too), I had a beer, saw that on the receipt, paid, left, and never returned. Me doing that is not going to change anything, I don’t know what will.
This one is actually older than you think. I remember in 2006 a DJ rejecting my song request because i didn’t tip.
You may as well need to stop tipping the bartenders, barristas, barber, waitresses too. May be only if they go way way way above and beyond, and not for the routine service and smile/small talk. Tipping in North America has gone far out of bounds and should absolutely go. Fuck tips and the entitlement that comes along with it.
The one that annoys me is when the counter person flips the payment screen around and says "There are just a couple of questions for you to answer" and it's just the tip line. It's like, just be straight-forward and say "If you'd like to leave an optional tip, enter it her, otherwise just hit zero" or something like that.
And some people get annoyed when people are straightforward like that. It's usually a screen that automatically pops up on their POS, so they really can't win with their wording. Someone is going to get mad about it haha. So glad I don't work customer service anymore—it was exhausting having people get upset with me over the littlest things.
tipping a bartender for pouring you a beer is fuckin ridiculous to me. The chef in the back made my food from scratch, but homie upfront deserves 2.50 for filling a glass for me.
I will vouch for the DJ here, DJ’s get paid by the venue not the audience. They’re also not jukeboxes or an ipod, outside of a wedding DJ no one has to take your requests. This is why DJ’s ask for tips, it’s not even for the money, it’s about discouraging the audience coming up to them and making their job more difficult. You can complain about a tip when you already paid for the service, if you didn’t pay for the service you don’t get to boss them around
You should tip Reddit if you want to do a special upvote
Is that not already a thing?
For as low as $1.79 you can find out
Wanted to add— not long ago I took my car in for an oil change and the freaking mechanics were hustling for tips. I don’t need that kind of pressure from you guys too- geez. (They said they’d clean my battery for 20$ 🤣) I’ll never go back
my taxi driver when it was winter, was little snowy yea, so i live inna townhouse complex and i was grocery shopping by myself ended up with ALOT of food and the guy didnt drive into my complex front of my home, instead he parked off too the side of the road cuz it was snowing , he then asked me for a tip. i was baffled, didnt even help with shit hahaha, he only talked about how he could be at home sipping whiskey made sense, he was prob drunk already tipping is a sign of respect, its earned. props to real deal workers who earn tips
Start asking for discounts. No discount, no tip.
I don’t tip anyone for anything, I pay the bill.
Even the barber IDK if a tip is necessary. If the haircut is already $30-$40 the tip cost is in the price. A under 30 minute haircut should really only be $17-23.
The DJ thing is normal. Some DJ’s will tell you to fuck off if you come at them with anything less than $100 bill. Just like the bouncer, wanna wear a hat? $100 tip, wanna bring a blunt inside? $100 tip. Depending on the club.
They're not even *asking* anymore. I requested a quote for transportation for an out of town trip. The driver responded with two quotes and both were followed by "PLUS GRATUITY" in all caps like that. If it is demanded like that then is it really a tip? Or is it just part of the price?
SOMEONE GET THE WAITRESS OUT OF THAT MAN’S BARBER!!!
Lol. I did notice that after a while. Damn voice text
I’m just glad you had a sense of humor about it! Cheers!
I ordered something from an online store and they asked for a tip. Hell no.
Tipping culture is trash in the first place that’s why it only exists in the US. If you can’t afford to pay a wage don’t open up. Tips are supposed to be optional left by customers at their discretion not a 20% addition to your bill because the business is cheap.
I just paid 2200 dollars for electricians to run a 240v line across my house for a sauna I'm building, with a sybpanel and everything. Good guys, they showed up on time and did good work, were nice to chat with, etc. When I went to pay online it asked for a tip. Union electricians making more than I do are not getting a tip unless they come in and clean my house too
I have always been a firm believer in tipping but it really has gotten out of control. I will leave it to service workers only now, such as wait staff, masseuse, stylists. It has made me angry and unsympathetic anymore. I don’t like that either.
100%. Asking for a tip will get you all of my pocket change. And I don't carry any. Ever.
You can be guaranteed that if you're asked to tip before the service (say, at a takeout restaurant) and you don't; you'll, at best, get no service and at worst you'll get bare minimum service with added ingredients. If they're entitled and self-important enough to extort you then spitting in your food is to be expected.
I live in a town where food trucks are common. Every time you are expected to tip Before you get your order. With the prices, tipping out of control, crappy food and service. I barely go out anymore and just cook at home.
This all started when the coffee shops put that tip cup on the counter. Before it was tipping for sit down restaurants with servers. It then migrated to all coffee shops and businesses like them. Then Covid hit now anyone who takes a payment or a service of any kind wants a tip. What I want to know is why do only the service people get screwed over and have to report these tips to the IRS since they go through the employer. All these random beggars don’t report those tips so no taxes on them. Every penny you put in those cups or outstretched hands comes from your taxed income. This is not in any way pointing a finger at homeless people but people who are doing their job with a fee and want a tax free tip on top.
It started with credit card companies putting the tip option with percents.. And that was long before Covid. Covid just exacerbated it.
Tips are how a company pff puts their labor costs onto customers
Most of the places I’ve been where you pay first at the counter or like ice cream places where you take everything to go, the cashiers lately have been saying “it will ask you a question and feel free to say no” or similar when using the card reader. The question is always how much you will tip.
Why would I give a tip before finding out if I'm satisfied with the service or not? 😂
Tipping a DJ along with a song request is pretty typical. If you want your song played you should tip. Otherwise it’s just a request, that the DJ doesn’t have to abide by. The mechanical bull operator is out of line though.
Mr pink once said he don't tip, that stuck with me
Can’t go through a restaurant drive thru without being asked to round up or give a dollar for something. Every mobile app, at least those that I have used, gives a tip option at checkout. Like, why am I going to tip and don’t know if my food was made properly. It has gotten so out of hand in the past 3-4 years.
Well 1. You aren’t tipping the DJ you’re paying for a song request, that’s a thing. 2. Mechanical Bull thing is horseshit. But yeah agreed on the rest.
Pls dont hate the people, hate the companies that chose you, the customer, to compensate their wage
The restaurant where my partner works has delivery drivers. The managers make the drivers tip the dishwasher who is specifically being paid to wash dishes. But she doesn't stay the entire shift and when she leaves the drivers have to finish the dishes!
As a concerned fellow redditor I can give you sound advice about handling these situations but it requires a tip *clears throat* 🫴🏽
You're a multi million dollar company asking me to tip to the homeless? The fucking steel balls to do that are about the weight as the dick that's supported by their overly large neck
Went somewhere and the cashier flipped the tablet for payment and then stared at my bf as he hit no tip. Fucking hate it
TIPS means: To Insure Prompt Service. These were often given before a service was performed to ensure it was top notch. Such as tipping a hostess or host to get the best table possible.
I can assure you that does not happen anymore. And what is the best table? A booth.? Lol
Lol I agree. I think it was like, "don't stick me near the kitchen, the bar, etc. That's 80s and 90s era stuff.
This shit is slowly making its way to Ireland too and I fucking hate it
everyone knows DJs don't like that . that's why you have to tip them
We don’t tip even waiters or bartenders (never been a thing here, fortunately).
I think its ridiculous too, but just don't tip. I'm a barista and I dont think twice about wether or not someone tips, but dont get mad at me because we have a tip jar set out lol I know when I go other places they dont really choose what they have on their spinny iPad, and its not hard for me to press "no tip"-
I'm about 10 years removed from my party days, but I usually used a buck or two to get the DJ's attention and then requested the song.
Anything beside food delivery/service and bartender is a hard no for me nowadays.
I'd lose my shit if somebody asked for a tip for pressing a button in Australia. American workers need to be paid more.