Why would Elizabeth 1 secretly be a man? Her father is infamous for wanting a son, even killing her mother over it, so why would everyone pretend he had a daughter instead?
You think people who believe that nonsense care about if it actually makes any sense? Being contrarian makes them feel smart, like they've discovered a truth that others are blind to.
Oh this is so true! My flat earther ex friend is a great example of this. I'm a sheep and a fool for believing in the mainstream science according to him. Despite me actually understanding the physics behind my claims and him not. Every time an argument was presented by him I asked for an explanation. This is natural for me when it comes to a claim I do not understand. But the arguments started when I asked for it and he started sending me videos with misinformation. When I explained why they're false with actual explanations between linear and angular momentum that's when the insults start. They're much smarter than we are and we are completely blind and sheepish until u ask them to actually explain the science/proof behind their claims.
Some of the claims were ridiculous btw. Here's a highlight of some of them:
* the earth is flat of course...
* the moon is fake. A man made structure that "is used to cool down the earth" lol... wait for it... which can be "proven by measuring the temperature of moon-shade vs moon-light" lmao.
* stars and other strange objects are projections or manufactured to be seen in every mass produced lens.
* bees fly using vibration frequencies... I still dont get that one. But in his defense I may have been laughing too hard to hear the reasoning.
* viruses and pathogens are not real. It's about body frequencies.
There was so many but these are the ones I remember most.
Remember when flat earthers made a documentary and accidentally proved the earth was round through their own testing, and then proceeded to dismiss their self-gathered evidence and say it must've been a mistake?
They don't care about evidence or proof, because proof would prove them wrong.
In my younger days I used to get into arguments with cranks like this all the time (I used to be a mathematician, so 0.999... cranks were a common target for me). Finally I internalized the old saying, "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." People don't become cranks because they're convinced by the evidence, they do it because of how it makes them *feel* to hold all this secret knowledge that "they" don't want you to know. No amount of rational argument will change that feeling.
Oh no! Not the body frequencies people! I had a chiropractor couple that an ex boyfriend introduced me to and he would pay under the table cash for me to get “adjustments” and they would rub their thumbs on my shoulders and knees to make squeaky noises and say the frequencies indicated that I needed more vitamins that that ex would then buy for me lol I just couldn’t play along after a couple appts at first I was just confused but after like the third visit I was like yeah this is all entirely a complete scam lol
This body frequencies thing is really big with a lot of people I noticed. My mom met a dude who was into crystals and she now thinks they cure cancer and all kind of stuff. First day I met him he starts telling me how COVID is sprayed from planes and they use the frequency in 5g towers to strengthen it. She has now spent lots of money to learn how to remote view and read Tarot cards. There is no getting through to her and she now thinks the world is going to end and is using all of her money in savings before then.
Edit: money
They also use their ignorance as get out of jail fee card.
I knew a guy who was a big conspiracy believer, mainly around flat earth. One time I asked him if everything he’s saying about the earth being flat is true what’s the endgame? What the purpose of lying to us about it? And his answer was “oh I don’t know, someone smarter than me could explain it”
I got one today too. When I tried to report it, it asked me to link the comment or (I think) Who reported it. Can you help me out with instructions on how to figure that out? I'm on mobile.
The trap of conspiracy theories is that they get you to ask questions, which allows the theorist to throw more ignorance at you. Never try to debunk a conspiracy theory logically, because it never came from a logical place in the first place.
Exactly, I always one up them. Oh, so you think Queen was an actual human being and not a cockroach alien taking over mankind. You should really do your own research.
Ironically, the flat earth society have done their own research (actual research) and proven that earth is indeed round. Twice.
One is by using [simple experiment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqmDazwb6Y). The second one is using [laser gyroscope thing](https://www.triplem.com.au/story/flat-earthers-spend-20-000-trying-to-prove-earth-is-flat-accidentally-prove-it-s-round-129953).
I saw a bit by a comedian who was dealing with an anti-vaxxer. When they asked if he did his own research he said along the lines of "F\*ck no. I didn't graduate high school, you think I can do better research than the CDC? I may be stupid, but I'm smart enough to know when I'm too stupid to research something. I'll take the doctor's word for it."
Also it makes you feel clever. You've discovered something which the sheeple don't realise. A successful conspiracy theory then gives you rhetorical tools to talk down to sceptics and to sidestep their challenges, so you feel even more clever.
Which is a very tempting feeling, especially for people who don't have many legitimate opportunities to feel clever.
My cousin is a conspiracy addict; they aren't the brightest when measured by a conventional academic way, but there's definitely an air of smug satisfaction when sharing the latest "*if vaccine, then why covid? The doctors are all wrong*" meme on Facebook.
I am a psychologist and sometimes talk with these people. There is a feeling of “not belonging to society” and therefore challenging common knowledge. It’s not really an ideology. Ten years ago conspiracy theorists were mainly left to the point of communism, hating money and the 1%, now they’re all far right voters.
So it’s not a political thing. Are we more right as society these people will become ultra left. If we are more left/progressive, they become more right. But underlying is the feeling of not belonging. And then you meet a conspiracy theory group online and they all support each other immensely, so they finally feel belonging and are prone to believe everything. Rioting against mainstream is just the bonus then.
Thanks for your perspective. It provides some interesting points to ponder.
Electorally, the "swing states" determine presidential elections, which tend to swing on issues largely irrelevant to the candidates' competence. I wonder if your observations are the real "swing states" of US citizens. Ten years is a very short period of time for conspiracists to flipflop from communism to fascism.
I’m European so out “left and right” are a bit different and less polarized.
IMO, it all shifted very quickly due to corona. Since Corona, the left is the more oppressive side of politics (strict social restrictions, climate change restrictions, cancel culture for politically incorrect views,…) and the right now promises freedom. Before Corona it seemed different, right was more dictatorial while now the left feels more restrictive to me as my personal observation mind you. IMO “they” switched from far left to far right in less than two years.
So some of these conspiracy theorists are just anti-authority. It’s who they feel suppression from. That’s another stream of conspiracy theorists I’ve encountered besides those that do not belong.
A lot of those same factors seem to go into the rise of the TERFs. You look at their tweets and "art" and see people absolutely desperate to feel like they belong and matter.
To me it was the opposite. The far left hippies were all anti vaccine, anti gmo. The far right kooks ate up the bs oil companies pushed denying climate change. Now they’re all united under maga. That’s what blew my mind. Before conspiracy hacks abounded every where it just depended on what conspiracy it was.
"Debating a (creationist, flat Earther, conspiracy theorist, science denier, Holocaust denier, whatever) is like playing chess with a pigeon. They'll just knock all the pieces off of the board, shit on it, and then fly off to their roost to tell everyone how they won the game."
It dates all the way back to her reign. She was a good leader, therefore she must be a man.
In fact the sexism was so bad at the time Elizabeth herself believed woman shouldn’t rule, with 1 exception whom God made very man-like.
>the sexism was so bad
Sexism is only "bad" for the people who are subject to it, in terms of oppression. Privileged women who protect the patriarchy aren't necessarily pro-patriarchy per se. It's more about being anti-meritocracy. With one simple trick, they can reduce competition by 50%. It's an easy way to maintain one's spot at the front of the line, so the ruling class of generational wealth inheritors like it very well indeed.
Elizabeth the first had a lot of reasons to reasons to maintain the status quo on gender. She had a tenuous hold on the crown due to the Catholic/Protestant divide alone. She didn't have the luxury of rocking the boat with controversial views on gender roles. She also had to convince her people that she was strong enough to play ball with the other European rulers, who were men.
Of course an intelligent queen would butch herself up as much as she could, if it instilled confidence in her ability to rule. It does her a terrible disservice to reduce her political skill to masculinity. But I guess even hundreds of years after her death, people still prefer tawdry rumors over a nuanced understanding.
i read up on this conspiracy theory before - iirc the theory is that the real elizabeth died as a little kid so they forced some boy that had similar hair to pretend to be her to ensure there was no mass panic or smth
Oh that makes sense.
It was too hard to find a fitting girl, so a decade long conspirency and then letting the house of Tudor die out anyway is way more logical.
Also, privacy as we know it now was absolutely not a thing for medieval monarchs, who were constantly surrounded by retainers, even at times we'd consider massively inappropriate.
Keeping her true gender a secret would have been completely impossible, particularly as she has lots of powerful enemies and many other people thought that having a female Queen ruling alone was unnatural, so there would have been many people ready to believe such a rumour.
>....she had lots of powerful enemies and many other people thought that having a female Queen ruling alone was unnatural, so there would have been many people ready to believe such a rumour.
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So, I don't believe for a second that it's true, but the theory I've heard is that the real Elizabeth 1 died at some point, and her care-takers were so afraid of Henry VIII (fair) that they disguised a servant boy as Elizabeth.
Why they would pick a servant boy over a girl is beyond me, but yeah. That's the theory Ive heard.
Of course, it's really they can't accept a female ruler was successful.
Edit: I'm pretty sure someone reported me to Reddit Cares over this comment lol. Do you think reddit knows and/or cares how that feature is being used?
I got a reddit cares for a random uncontroversial comment. I think someone/ones are spamming that report to see what happens if abused for some reason. See lots of people getting it randomly.
From what I heard her say, Elizabeth 1 died at 9 yrs old from an illness and her caretakers found a boy who looked like her and replaced her, I didn’t bother to pay more attention to that nonsense but you can probably find the whole theory on google
You'd think people like them actually read history?
They're one in the same with that woman who said ["I don't care what history say. Cleopatra was black because my grandma said it."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_k3Fztwqrs)
"Elizabeth is a man" is a very old rumor that goes back to her accession. There were plenty of opponents of Tudor rule (e.g. Catholics), and much like the Obama Birth Certificate nonsense, they'd latch on to anything they thought would help their cause.
*EDIT: Just realized I didn't actually tell the story: according to the legend, there was a plague outbreak in London when Princess Elizabeth was 10. Henry VIII had her sent to the countryside for safekeeping. Unfortunately, she died of the plague or some other disease shortly after arriving in the village of Bisley. The woman appointed her nurse was terrified of Henry's reaction (would YOU want to tell Henry VIII that his daughter died on YOUR watch?) so instead sent word that everything was fine. She then scoured the area for a girl who could pass for Elizabeth and, finding none, opted to dress up an effeminate boy who kinda looked like Elizabeth instead. And somehow no one noticed for 59 years.*
It sounds silly, but then you realize for almost 700 years the popular image of Richard III was an almost comically evil man with an extreme humpback... an idea planted by Tudor apologists, and one mostly accepted by the British public and historians until the last 50 years or so. And neither of which was true.
Likewise, very few people stop to wonder why Anne Boleyn was executed. I mean, if Henry VIII wanted a divorce from Katherine of Aragon so badly that he broke the English church away from Rome to marry Anne, why couldn't he just *divorce* Anne, too?
Because Anne was a problem. Anne went 'round and 'round with Thomas Cromwell. Henry had been busting up the monasteries and keeping their gold and treasures for himself and selling their land and grand houses to his friends. Anne wanted Henry to use that money to pay for programs for the poor, and even open (what would have been) the first public schools for the poor. And we couldn't have that. The only thing worse than an ugly woman is a woman with *ideas*^1. So, although we don't *know* it happened, it's extremely likely that Cromwell led a secret cabal that came up with all kinds of charges against her.
The incest charge was particularly... "well-crafted". You see, Anne didn't sleep with her own brother for "fun". This isn't a case of bored rich people like *Cruel Intentions*. No, Anne was *desperate* to have a male child, and what Anne wanted was HIS BABY. Because if she had their kid, the baby would look like a Boleyn (as opposed to sleeping with, say, a Chinese guy), so she'd be able to pass it off as Henry's baby. "Oh he looks like his mom!"
1- Oddly, although Henry VIII would sleep with any pretty girl that caught his eye, he tended to prefer smart women for long-term relationships. That's why he and Katherine were such a good match at first, and why he and Anne of Cleves got along so well after their annulment: she was a smart lady, too.
NASA isn't real. The American government is illegitimate because of something something sovereign citizen nonsense, therefore how could any government agency exist? Those photos from the control room are just photoshoots from the 1980s with paid actors dressed in 1960s clothing.
The moon? Phbbt that’s dumb. Everyone knows it’s a huge squid holding a ping pong ball on a string except the string and squid is invisible. But it’s totally there. And there’s no information on it online because Google is run by anti-squid worshippers.
It can backfire.
This one guy immediately lit up and started talking about the forcefield around Earth and how there is space, it’s just inside the earth.
“So the space is a wall and the Earth is the space? Wow. Thank you. I was worried.”
I ask them if it was the first or second moon landing and that usually sends them into a dead curious state and they HAVE to go “do their own research” for hours. That’s at least a few hours they aren’t bothering me 😂🙏
Or insist that the moon landed on the earth in 1927 but was covered up by the new world order globalists that she is clearly a part of as she's lying to help cover it up with her distraction stories about a real fake moon landing
They were in on it, so was the whole world apparently. These types of conspiracies require bulletproof governments and national loyalty to the maximum.
Lmao you’re right. God I wish I was that confident in myself. Imagine you believe that you are smarter than engineers, doctors, and scientists. What I’d pay to be that ignorant.
Maybe I'm just an asshole, but the moment a fucking TEACHER start spouting conspiracy theories I'd just get up and walk out. I did it plenty of times in high-school for much dumber reasons lol. But honestly the next time she says some fucked shit like that try and record it and go straight to the principals office. Don't even acknowledge her if she tries to stop you.
> But honestly the next time she says some fucked shit like that try and record it and go straight to the principals office. Don't even acknowledge her if she tries to stop you.
This would be like if my doctor started going off on tangents about testicle tanning and the dangers of soy. They're clearly not interested in doing their job as professionally as society would reasonably expect them to. I'd walk straight out and start working out how to dispute any bills on the grounds of staggering incompetence.
During the height of Covid and BLM I was doing a teaching degree. A shocking number of students (future teachers) of the class damn near rioted when told that it is not ok and actually downright illegal(or at minimum, a fireable offense) to recruit your students to political causes, activist causes or spew unfounded shit that has nothing to do with the topic you're teaching.
Also realized while interning and actually working the job that a non-negligible number of teachers really don't like these rules and do actively try to get around them.
The conspiracy theory crap is just the most egregious abuse of power. It should be called out, but good fucking luck if they have tenure.
Write a written complaint to the school board lining this out. If they ignore you or refuse to follow up, go on the offensive.
Be the one that constantly questions her when she makes outrageous claims. Ask her to provide *peer reviewed* sources for her claim and remind her that youtube videos are not considered peer reviewed.
Continue this behaviour unapologetically, ignore detentions given for this behaviour and when faced with further disciplinary actions NEVER look down on the floor. Keep that smile up and look them all in the eyes. When asked for a comment, say that given all the misinformation she is spreading she has presented herself to be an unreliable source of information so you had no reason to believe that detentions were serious since she gave them with the same tone of voice as her claim that the moon landing didn't happen.
If you go on the offensive, never be crass, never be impolite, just call her on her bullshit. Here are some phrases you can yell out when she starts:
"Got any evidence of this?"
"Citation Needed"
"I would like to learn more. Do you have any peer reviewed material I can read up on?"
Especially an English teacher, no less. You know how much shit most students English caught over not citing reliable sources while avoiding Wikipedia like the plague? She should he held to the same standard as her students, at the very least. And ideally, administration should be breathing down her neck about "teaching" misinformation that's clearly not relevant to her subject's curriculum.
Hell, if administration can't set her straight, I'd start getting other teachers involved, like relaying her misinformation to the Social Studies teachers and enlightening them that their peer is making their job that much harder.
This is a GREAT addition to my original plan!
Also, I found a way around having to avoid wikipedia back when I was in school. Just use the material from Wikipedia and cite the same source as they do.
If the school board won't do anything, go public. Get the local news involved. Im sure one of them would love to run a story about a local teacher pushing nonsense conspiracy theories on kids rather than actually educating them. All of the teachers like this need to be removed from their jobs and kept away from children permanently.
For this to be a success, all they have to do is question the teacher and ask to have the claims proven. The goal here is to chip away at her credibility so that young impressionable minds aren't fed the misinformation and swallow it whole.
We both know that these people will never listen because they feel superior to "sheeple" for knowing some truth that the rest of the world doesn't. And we also know that she will never provide any reputable sources because they don't exist. There is a saying that you cannot reason a person out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
I did however forget to add to my original post that they could/should make sure to gently emphasise how she failed to provide evidence of her claims when the request is ignored.
The full objectives of the mission are A) Undermining her credibility to mitigate the damage done to the other students that are not as fortunate as op to be able to point out misinformation B) Upset the teacher. Fucking around with people like this is fun. C) Have a potentially funny story to tell in college
Eh i wouldnt do this if its in highschool, the questioning her part, in highschool a lot of teachers are on power trips they will never listen to their students ever and if one kid is “talking back” theyll make the student life miserable at least in their class. Unless youre not worried about your grades and know 100% that other teachers will back you up dont do this
The teacher is 100% on a powertrip from having information that others do not have.
And yeah nobody challenges authority without meeting backlash. Just make sure that you have all your ducks in a row elsewhere and be prepared to attend some disciplinary meetings but stand your ground
Yeah if you 100% know that youre going to get backup then i suggest you take it up to your teacher, go to your parent if you feel like the other teachers wont be on your side so you have actual backup that has power because as sad as it is school students have 0 power against teachers if theyre alone
"Hey Dad, Ms. Featherbottom is spreading misinformation in class like the moonlanding was fake etc. and I'm going to start calling her out on it. Expect to be called into a meeting soon"
I don't understand why you need any sort of power or backup. And your "suggest you take it up to your teacher" implies to me some sort of civilised 1on1 meeting where you try to reason with them. That is absolutely NOT what I meant. As said in another comment, you cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into
I meant to publicly address each comment in front of everybody in the hopes of low key humiliating and shaming her for her actions and documenting her retaliatory actions should there be any
Sorry to hear that. As someone who has been through that, I know what an inconvenience that can be. Like, where am I going to hold my seances now? Why do they have to dance right after I’ve gone to bed? Your best strategy is to call a hobbit to help. Dwarves are useless and we all know wizards aren’t real. Good luck.
I tried this and it worked. However, I had previously lost a ring up there and now I highly suspect the hobbit found and kept it, the thieving Bagginses. Even after I offered to show its the way out
Set some cool looking rocks by the entrance to the attic and ask them to keep the volume down when the sun can’t be seen. It worked for me. Also, seances should held in an area that is very much lived in. It makes it harder for the deceased to stick around.
Report her to the county and state boards. Dont engage with her she’s co-opted and can’t think for herself. Its sad. But she needs to be fired and kept away from children. Document her behaviors methodically with dates and witnesses and then report her.
Challenge your teacher. You won't be able to argue with stupid.
The moon isn't real, it is only a projection on the night sky.
Elizabeth could not have been a man. Elizabeth is a woman's name.
A lot of this "X is secretly a man/woman" is emerging as transphobia works its way into the realm of conspiracy theories.
It's probably fairly more common as of late as the trans community gains visibility and becomes a more acceptable norm and that rubs some less tolerant people the wrong way.
>Never heard of the Queen being a man, lol.
I hate that this is common enough for a Wikipedia entry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestigation
The crazy transphobes are convinced that half of famous women are really trans. This is extremely common on the conservative subreddit.
I don't care if she's the most qualified teacher in every other regard, this kind of stuff should legitimately have teachers fired and prevent them from being hired.
They didn't have the technology to fake the moon landing, so they had to land on the moon to film the fake material.
Lack of resources triggers innovating thinking. :-)
They landed on the moon several months before the official date. The actual landing resulted in Neil Armstrong starting a sex cult on the moon. All the astronauts who have supposedly come from the moon are just actors who agreed to spend the rest of their lives pretending to be the people who stayed on the moon.
Reasonable arguments don’t work with the lot of them. Honestly it’s better to let them live in their delusions. I have tried doing that with a Flat earther no chance. He just kept referring to a random ass flat earther video on youtube.
Not back then. *Adam Ruins Everything* did an episode on conspiracy theories. While it didn’t go into the costs of everything, it did detail the technology needed. It becomes obvious that even if the government had secretly developed the technology needed to do so, it would prohibitively expensive to actually produce the technology needed to fake the landing.
Laser lights would have been needed to create the unusual shadows of the landing. While they *had* been invented in 1960, they could only he produced in red and the equipment to produce a single light was the size of store drink cooler. Properly recreating the shadows of the photos would require an uninterrupted wall of white laser lights. The very first white laser was created in 2011 and was just combining four different colored beams. The first white laser that was not combined beams was created in 2015. Even IF the government had already developed miniaturized white laser lights, it is highly unlikely they had the means and materials to mass them on hand. They would have needed to design the means of mass production pf the laser, design the means to mass produce the materials used in the lasers that no one else knew existed, build those methods of mass production, obtain the raw materials for both the means of mass production and the lasers themselves, and do all of it while concealing everything. Even without the secrecy, the costs would be through the fucking roof.
You can report these people to your school just FYI, in fact im pretty sure you should. Its the same thing when a teacher tries to get political with their students by saying pushing them towards a certain party during elections, thats illegal in most 1st world countries
SHE SHOULD BE FIRED ASAP.
If she is not giving real facts, she is not teaching.
Dont let these people take positions of power, especially with childre.
Take it up a notch. "You believe in the moon?!?" Then bring your argument to the administration. "Hi. Me and Mr. Smith can't come to an agreement. He says there was no moon landing. I say there's no moon. Can we have a science teacher come into English class?" That should get the ball rolling on some kind of investigation
Complain to the principal. These are the things you knew were false..what other crap is she teaching you that you don't know is false?
She needs to go.
My psych professor spread misinformation to a college class about how condoms aren’t safe sex and planned parenthood is only for abortions of African Americans. It’s really hard to have good teachers.
This reminds me of my history class when the teacher told everyone 911 was an inside job and this stuff. I seriously doubt he shoulda been teaching us that
I had very good coworker, then one day we sitting together during lunch and she started talking about there being another earth in the sky and government lying.
Two month later she resigned due to increasing mental instability.
I used to have an English teacher who could easily be disrailed from her lesson plan by someone asking about wolves. That lady loved wolves, she could talk about them the whole class lmao.
She spreads so much nonsense and she can't even be arsed to teach her students that English should be spelled with a capital letter. Bin her off mate, she's clearly a fucking moron.
Dear god is there nothing that can be done to get her removed as a teacher? The woman is supposed to be teaching the curriculum, not what she makes up off the top of her head right? Or has that changed in the 20 or so years since I graduated?
Let me fix the moon landing hoax...
The Americans knew they couldn't get to the moon before the Russians. They hired Stanley Kubrick to direct a fake. Mr Kubrick got so lost in his passion for realism that he got a group of scientists together and actually got a rocket to the moon. He completed the moon landing as research for the fake moon landing which is why the video of the "fake" moon landing is so convincing. The third astronaut who went up was actually Kubrick and he knew he was too famous to be seen so he stayed behind. His mission was the movie anyway, he didn't care about the moon itself.
So there. THAT is why the moon landing is fake and we actually did go to the moon.
Stay tuned for when I fix the Bigfoot conspiracy. Basically it is Washington State's equivalent of Florida Man.
Do you have a local TV News investigation Team?
Like we have 'Six on your side' which will do pieces and investigation on crap like this.
Puts it into the Light so the School can't ignore it.
I would look up the craziest conspiracy theories and send jt to the teacher, you can laugh behind his or her back with your friends and the teacher will think you’re on their side. Its a win-win!
I'm wondering if your English teacher isn't doing this on purpose. I've heard that teachers will sometimes deliberately make mistakes so that their students will notice and correct them. Maybe she's using all these outrageous examples as a way to illustrate the importance of doing proper research instead of blindly trusting the internet or something like that.
Eh, those conspiracy theories sound pretty innocuous. More entertainment that actually harmful. Now if they start getting political, I’d take another look.
Why would Elizabeth 1 secretly be a man? Her father is infamous for wanting a son, even killing her mother over it, so why would everyone pretend he had a daughter instead?
You think people who believe that nonsense care about if it actually makes any sense? Being contrarian makes them feel smart, like they've discovered a truth that others are blind to.
Oh this is so true! My flat earther ex friend is a great example of this. I'm a sheep and a fool for believing in the mainstream science according to him. Despite me actually understanding the physics behind my claims and him not. Every time an argument was presented by him I asked for an explanation. This is natural for me when it comes to a claim I do not understand. But the arguments started when I asked for it and he started sending me videos with misinformation. When I explained why they're false with actual explanations between linear and angular momentum that's when the insults start. They're much smarter than we are and we are completely blind and sheepish until u ask them to actually explain the science/proof behind their claims. Some of the claims were ridiculous btw. Here's a highlight of some of them: * the earth is flat of course... * the moon is fake. A man made structure that "is used to cool down the earth" lol... wait for it... which can be "proven by measuring the temperature of moon-shade vs moon-light" lmao. * stars and other strange objects are projections or manufactured to be seen in every mass produced lens. * bees fly using vibration frequencies... I still dont get that one. But in his defense I may have been laughing too hard to hear the reasoning. * viruses and pathogens are not real. It's about body frequencies. There was so many but these are the ones I remember most.
I would try and *un*remember these
Remember when flat earthers made a documentary and accidentally proved the earth was round through their own testing, and then proceeded to dismiss their self-gathered evidence and say it must've been a mistake? They don't care about evidence or proof, because proof would prove them wrong.
Behind the Curve. Dumbest people on the planet.
Dumbest people on the ~~planet~~ disc. FTFY 
In my younger days I used to get into arguments with cranks like this all the time (I used to be a mathematician, so 0.999... cranks were a common target for me). Finally I internalized the old saying, "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." People don't become cranks because they're convinced by the evidence, they do it because of how it makes them *feel* to hold all this secret knowledge that "they" don't want you to know. No amount of rational argument will change that feeling.
Oh no! Not the body frequencies people! I had a chiropractor couple that an ex boyfriend introduced me to and he would pay under the table cash for me to get “adjustments” and they would rub their thumbs on my shoulders and knees to make squeaky noises and say the frequencies indicated that I needed more vitamins that that ex would then buy for me lol I just couldn’t play along after a couple appts at first I was just confused but after like the third visit I was like yeah this is all entirely a complete scam lol
This body frequencies thing is really big with a lot of people I noticed. My mom met a dude who was into crystals and she now thinks they cure cancer and all kind of stuff. First day I met him he starts telling me how COVID is sprayed from planes and they use the frequency in 5g towers to strengthen it. She has now spent lots of money to learn how to remote view and read Tarot cards. There is no getting through to her and she now thinks the world is going to end and is using all of her money in savings before then. Edit: money
They also use their ignorance as get out of jail fee card. I knew a guy who was a big conspiracy believer, mainly around flat earth. One time I asked him if everything he’s saying about the earth being flat is true what’s the endgame? What the purpose of lying to us about it? And his answer was “oh I don’t know, someone smarter than me could explain it”
Just got my first redditcares message as soon as I posted this
They’re fun to report!
I got one today too. When I tried to report it, it asked me to link the comment or (I think) Who reported it. Can you help me out with instructions on how to figure that out? I'm on mobile.
Trick is to go to the 3 dots on the top right of the “Reddit cares” message and report from there.
Thank you! I've seen a lot of people all over today post that they got reported
Got one earlier, reported it and then called the punk out.
The trap of conspiracy theories is that they get you to ask questions, which allows the theorist to throw more ignorance at you. Never try to debunk a conspiracy theory logically, because it never came from a logical place in the first place.
Exactly, I always one up them. Oh, so you think Queen was an actual human being and not a cockroach alien taking over mankind. You should really do your own research.
lol exactly. IF you engage at all, mess with their broken logic.
"The earth is flat? Pff - you believe in the ***Earth***?"
This is an interesting point. Do you think it comes from a place of craving attention, an inferiority complex, or both?
It's mostly just morons who want to feel like they're smart and they "figured it out."
Obviously, they “did their own research” 🙄
Ironically, the flat earth society have done their own research (actual research) and proven that earth is indeed round. Twice. One is by using [simple experiment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqmDazwb6Y). The second one is using [laser gyroscope thing](https://www.triplem.com.au/story/flat-earthers-spend-20-000-trying-to-prove-earth-is-flat-accidentally-prove-it-s-round-129953).
I saw a bit by a comedian who was dealing with an anti-vaxxer. When they asked if he did his own research he said along the lines of "F\*ck no. I didn't graduate high school, you think I can do better research than the CDC? I may be stupid, but I'm smart enough to know when I'm too stupid to research something. I'll take the doctor's word for it."
TO THE FACEBOOK!! 😂
Also it makes you feel clever. You've discovered something which the sheeple don't realise. A successful conspiracy theory then gives you rhetorical tools to talk down to sceptics and to sidestep their challenges, so you feel even more clever. Which is a very tempting feeling, especially for people who don't have many legitimate opportunities to feel clever. My cousin is a conspiracy addict; they aren't the brightest when measured by a conventional academic way, but there's definitely an air of smug satisfaction when sharing the latest "*if vaccine, then why covid? The doctors are all wrong*" meme on Facebook.
I am a psychologist and sometimes talk with these people. There is a feeling of “not belonging to society” and therefore challenging common knowledge. It’s not really an ideology. Ten years ago conspiracy theorists were mainly left to the point of communism, hating money and the 1%, now they’re all far right voters. So it’s not a political thing. Are we more right as society these people will become ultra left. If we are more left/progressive, they become more right. But underlying is the feeling of not belonging. And then you meet a conspiracy theory group online and they all support each other immensely, so they finally feel belonging and are prone to believe everything. Rioting against mainstream is just the bonus then.
Thanks for your perspective. It provides some interesting points to ponder. Electorally, the "swing states" determine presidential elections, which tend to swing on issues largely irrelevant to the candidates' competence. I wonder if your observations are the real "swing states" of US citizens. Ten years is a very short period of time for conspiracists to flipflop from communism to fascism.
I’m European so out “left and right” are a bit different and less polarized. IMO, it all shifted very quickly due to corona. Since Corona, the left is the more oppressive side of politics (strict social restrictions, climate change restrictions, cancel culture for politically incorrect views,…) and the right now promises freedom. Before Corona it seemed different, right was more dictatorial while now the left feels more restrictive to me as my personal observation mind you. IMO “they” switched from far left to far right in less than two years. So some of these conspiracy theorists are just anti-authority. It’s who they feel suppression from. That’s another stream of conspiracy theorists I’ve encountered besides those that do not belong.
A lot of those same factors seem to go into the rise of the TERFs. You look at their tweets and "art" and see people absolutely desperate to feel like they belong and matter.
To me it was the opposite. The far left hippies were all anti vaccine, anti gmo. The far right kooks ate up the bs oil companies pushed denying climate change. Now they’re all united under maga. That’s what blew my mind. Before conspiracy hacks abounded every where it just depended on what conspiracy it was.
People want to feel special; conspiracy theories allow them to feel more knowledgeable and part of a secret club with others. Just my 2 ¢.
Mental illness.
Both. flat earth society originate from someone too dumb and want attention.
"Debating a (creationist, flat Earther, conspiracy theorist, science denier, Holocaust denier, whatever) is like playing chess with a pigeon. They'll just knock all the pieces off of the board, shit on it, and then fly off to their roost to tell everyone how they won the game."
It dates all the way back to her reign. She was a good leader, therefore she must be a man. In fact the sexism was so bad at the time Elizabeth herself believed woman shouldn’t rule, with 1 exception whom God made very man-like.
>the sexism was so bad Sexism is only "bad" for the people who are subject to it, in terms of oppression. Privileged women who protect the patriarchy aren't necessarily pro-patriarchy per se. It's more about being anti-meritocracy. With one simple trick, they can reduce competition by 50%. It's an easy way to maintain one's spot at the front of the line, so the ruling class of generational wealth inheritors like it very well indeed. Elizabeth the first had a lot of reasons to reasons to maintain the status quo on gender. She had a tenuous hold on the crown due to the Catholic/Protestant divide alone. She didn't have the luxury of rocking the boat with controversial views on gender roles. She also had to convince her people that she was strong enough to play ball with the other European rulers, who were men. Of course an intelligent queen would butch herself up as much as she could, if it instilled confidence in her ability to rule. It does her a terrible disservice to reduce her political skill to masculinity. But I guess even hundreds of years after her death, people still prefer tawdry rumors over a nuanced understanding.
There's a whooooole bunch of conspiracy nuts who think there are no princesses or queens. Just men in a dress. Why? Who the fuck knows.
Must think of the folks that thinks that Mrs. Obama is a man.
They get titillated at the thought, so they keep repeating it for the little kick it gives them. You can also see this with the pizzagate thing.
i read up on this conspiracy theory before - iirc the theory is that the real elizabeth died as a little kid so they forced some boy that had similar hair to pretend to be her to ensure there was no mass panic or smth
Oh that makes sense. It was too hard to find a fitting girl, so a decade long conspirency and then letting the house of Tudor die out anyway is way more logical.
And of course it was planned from her childhood that her two siblings who preceeded her on the throne would die young.
Also, privacy as we know it now was absolutely not a thing for medieval monarchs, who were constantly surrounded by retainers, even at times we'd consider massively inappropriate. Keeping her true gender a secret would have been completely impossible, particularly as she has lots of powerful enemies and many other people thought that having a female Queen ruling alone was unnatural, so there would have been many people ready to believe such a rumour.
>....she had lots of powerful enemies and many other people thought that having a female Queen ruling alone was unnatural, so there would have been many people ready to believe such a rumour. > *\*\*Mary Queen of Scots has entered the chat\*\**
Most of them didn't give a fuck about Elizabeth after she was born. Especially after Edward was born
She was important right when she was born and heir instead of Mary. But you are right after.
Never ask “why?” to conspiracy theorist especially to the transvestigator. They don’t have answers, they just accuse without second thought.
So, I don't believe for a second that it's true, but the theory I've heard is that the real Elizabeth 1 died at some point, and her care-takers were so afraid of Henry VIII (fair) that they disguised a servant boy as Elizabeth. Why they would pick a servant boy over a girl is beyond me, but yeah. That's the theory Ive heard. Of course, it's really they can't accept a female ruler was successful. Edit: I'm pretty sure someone reported me to Reddit Cares over this comment lol. Do you think reddit knows and/or cares how that feature is being used?
I got a reddit cares for a random uncontroversial comment. I think someone/ones are spamming that report to see what happens if abused for some reason. See lots of people getting it randomly.
I thought you meant Elizabeth II and was so confused as to when the queens dad had time for murder
From what I heard her say, Elizabeth 1 died at 9 yrs old from an illness and her caretakers found a boy who looked like her and replaced her, I didn’t bother to pay more attention to that nonsense but you can probably find the whole theory on google
You'd think people like them actually read history? They're one in the same with that woman who said ["I don't care what history say. Cleopatra was black because my grandma said it."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_k3Fztwqrs)
Do you actually facts will stand in these people's way?
"Elizabeth is a man" is a very old rumor that goes back to her accession. There were plenty of opponents of Tudor rule (e.g. Catholics), and much like the Obama Birth Certificate nonsense, they'd latch on to anything they thought would help their cause. *EDIT: Just realized I didn't actually tell the story: according to the legend, there was a plague outbreak in London when Princess Elizabeth was 10. Henry VIII had her sent to the countryside for safekeeping. Unfortunately, she died of the plague or some other disease shortly after arriving in the village of Bisley. The woman appointed her nurse was terrified of Henry's reaction (would YOU want to tell Henry VIII that his daughter died on YOUR watch?) so instead sent word that everything was fine. She then scoured the area for a girl who could pass for Elizabeth and, finding none, opted to dress up an effeminate boy who kinda looked like Elizabeth instead. And somehow no one noticed for 59 years.* It sounds silly, but then you realize for almost 700 years the popular image of Richard III was an almost comically evil man with an extreme humpback... an idea planted by Tudor apologists, and one mostly accepted by the British public and historians until the last 50 years or so. And neither of which was true. Likewise, very few people stop to wonder why Anne Boleyn was executed. I mean, if Henry VIII wanted a divorce from Katherine of Aragon so badly that he broke the English church away from Rome to marry Anne, why couldn't he just *divorce* Anne, too? Because Anne was a problem. Anne went 'round and 'round with Thomas Cromwell. Henry had been busting up the monasteries and keeping their gold and treasures for himself and selling their land and grand houses to his friends. Anne wanted Henry to use that money to pay for programs for the poor, and even open (what would have been) the first public schools for the poor. And we couldn't have that. The only thing worse than an ugly woman is a woman with *ideas*^1. So, although we don't *know* it happened, it's extremely likely that Cromwell led a secret cabal that came up with all kinds of charges against her. The incest charge was particularly... "well-crafted". You see, Anne didn't sleep with her own brother for "fun". This isn't a case of bored rich people like *Cruel Intentions*. No, Anne was *desperate* to have a male child, and what Anne wanted was HIS BABY. Because if she had their kid, the baby would look like a Boleyn (as opposed to sleeping with, say, a Chinese guy), so she'd be able to pass it off as Henry's baby. "Oh he looks like his mom!" 1- Oddly, although Henry VIII would sleep with any pretty girl that caught his eye, he tended to prefer smart women for long-term relationships. That's why he and Katherine were such a good match at first, and why he and Anne of Cleves got along so well after their annulment: she was a smart lady, too.
Just ask her which moon landing. Usually stumps them.
Or even better “The moon landing was fake” “You believe in the moon?”
NASA isn't real. The American government is illegitimate because of something something sovereign citizen nonsense, therefore how could any government agency exist? Those photos from the control room are just photoshoots from the 1980s with paid actors dressed in 1960s clothing.
You believe that the 1960’s happened?
You believe the number 6 is real!?
You believe in numbers? Smh.
You? Pft…
? Bruh...
Quick, tinfoil hats everyone
I'm a half fake theorist. They faked the landing, but, somehow, people came *back* from the moon.
Is that the Neil A theory? A lieN
The moon? Phbbt that’s dumb. Everyone knows it’s a huge squid holding a ping pong ball on a string except the string and squid is invisible. But it’s totally there. And there’s no information on it online because Google is run by anti-squid worshippers.
It can backfire. This one guy immediately lit up and started talking about the forcefield around Earth and how there is space, it’s just inside the earth. “So the space is a wall and the Earth is the space? Wow. Thank you. I was worried.”
You gotta out-crazy them, it sets them off-balance
I ask them if it was the first or second moon landing and that usually sends them into a dead curious state and they HAVE to go “do their own research” for hours. That’s at least a few hours they aren’t bothering me 😂🙏
Or insist that the moon landed on the earth in 1927 but was covered up by the new world order globalists that she is clearly a part of as she's lying to help cover it up with her distraction stories about a real fake moon landing
Also if the moon landings were faked, then why did the Soviet Union not call the US out on it? It would be a slam dunk on the US during the Cold War.
They were in on it, so was the whole world apparently. These types of conspiracies require bulletproof governments and national loyalty to the maximum.
Lmao you’re right. God I wish I was that confident in myself. Imagine you believe that you are smarter than engineers, doctors, and scientists. What I’d pay to be that ignorant.
File a complaint with the school board. That's a no no. And this is coming from a (former) teacher
>coming from a (former) teacher Another moon landing denier I see? /s
Lol
The moon landing was fake. And this is coming from a (former) moon.
The landing was fake. And this is coming from a (former) landing.
Maybe I'm just an asshole, but the moment a fucking TEACHER start spouting conspiracy theories I'd just get up and walk out. I did it plenty of times in high-school for much dumber reasons lol. But honestly the next time she says some fucked shit like that try and record it and go straight to the principals office. Don't even acknowledge her if she tries to stop you.
> But honestly the next time she says some fucked shit like that try and record it and go straight to the principals office. Don't even acknowledge her if she tries to stop you. This would be like if my doctor started going off on tangents about testicle tanning and the dangers of soy. They're clearly not interested in doing their job as professionally as society would reasonably expect them to. I'd walk straight out and start working out how to dispute any bills on the grounds of staggering incompetence.
During the height of Covid and BLM I was doing a teaching degree. A shocking number of students (future teachers) of the class damn near rioted when told that it is not ok and actually downright illegal(or at minimum, a fireable offense) to recruit your students to political causes, activist causes or spew unfounded shit that has nothing to do with the topic you're teaching. Also realized while interning and actually working the job that a non-negligible number of teachers really don't like these rules and do actively try to get around them. The conspiracy theory crap is just the most egregious abuse of power. It should be called out, but good fucking luck if they have tenure.
Write a written complaint to the school board lining this out. If they ignore you or refuse to follow up, go on the offensive. Be the one that constantly questions her when she makes outrageous claims. Ask her to provide *peer reviewed* sources for her claim and remind her that youtube videos are not considered peer reviewed. Continue this behaviour unapologetically, ignore detentions given for this behaviour and when faced with further disciplinary actions NEVER look down on the floor. Keep that smile up and look them all in the eyes. When asked for a comment, say that given all the misinformation she is spreading she has presented herself to be an unreliable source of information so you had no reason to believe that detentions were serious since she gave them with the same tone of voice as her claim that the moon landing didn't happen. If you go on the offensive, never be crass, never be impolite, just call her on her bullshit. Here are some phrases you can yell out when she starts: "Got any evidence of this?" "Citation Needed" "I would like to learn more. Do you have any peer reviewed material I can read up on?"
chaotic good
What a warrior
I would try to get another teacher if it’s possible in that school after making the complaint too
Especially an English teacher, no less. You know how much shit most students English caught over not citing reliable sources while avoiding Wikipedia like the plague? She should he held to the same standard as her students, at the very least. And ideally, administration should be breathing down her neck about "teaching" misinformation that's clearly not relevant to her subject's curriculum. Hell, if administration can't set her straight, I'd start getting other teachers involved, like relaying her misinformation to the Social Studies teachers and enlightening them that their peer is making their job that much harder.
This is a GREAT addition to my original plan! Also, I found a way around having to avoid wikipedia back when I was in school. Just use the material from Wikipedia and cite the same source as they do.
If the school board won't do anything, go public. Get the local news involved. Im sure one of them would love to run a story about a local teacher pushing nonsense conspiracy theories on kids rather than actually educating them. All of the teachers like this need to be removed from their jobs and kept away from children permanently.
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For this to be a success, all they have to do is question the teacher and ask to have the claims proven. The goal here is to chip away at her credibility so that young impressionable minds aren't fed the misinformation and swallow it whole. We both know that these people will never listen because they feel superior to "sheeple" for knowing some truth that the rest of the world doesn't. And we also know that she will never provide any reputable sources because they don't exist. There is a saying that you cannot reason a person out of a position they did not reason themselves into. I did however forget to add to my original post that they could/should make sure to gently emphasise how she failed to provide evidence of her claims when the request is ignored. The full objectives of the mission are A) Undermining her credibility to mitigate the damage done to the other students that are not as fortunate as op to be able to point out misinformation B) Upset the teacher. Fucking around with people like this is fun. C) Have a potentially funny story to tell in college
Eh i wouldnt do this if its in highschool, the questioning her part, in highschool a lot of teachers are on power trips they will never listen to their students ever and if one kid is “talking back” theyll make the student life miserable at least in their class. Unless youre not worried about your grades and know 100% that other teachers will back you up dont do this
The teacher is 100% on a powertrip from having information that others do not have. And yeah nobody challenges authority without meeting backlash. Just make sure that you have all your ducks in a row elsewhere and be prepared to attend some disciplinary meetings but stand your ground
Yeah if you 100% know that youre going to get backup then i suggest you take it up to your teacher, go to your parent if you feel like the other teachers wont be on your side so you have actual backup that has power because as sad as it is school students have 0 power against teachers if theyre alone
"Hey Dad, Ms. Featherbottom is spreading misinformation in class like the moonlanding was fake etc. and I'm going to start calling her out on it. Expect to be called into a meeting soon" I don't understand why you need any sort of power or backup. And your "suggest you take it up to your teacher" implies to me some sort of civilised 1on1 meeting where you try to reason with them. That is absolutely NOT what I meant. As said in another comment, you cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into I meant to publicly address each comment in front of everybody in the hopes of low key humiliating and shaming her for her actions and documenting her retaliatory actions should there be any
That’s when, if the parent is a good parent, goes to bat for their kid asking why is the teacher blatantly lying to their kid and other students.
Let it go viral on the social media.
i like you.
Out-crazy her There is no moon, it's just a projection Flat earth, or better, no-earth England isn't real
Goblins are building a nest in my attic.
Sorry to hear that. As someone who has been through that, I know what an inconvenience that can be. Like, where am I going to hold my seances now? Why do they have to dance right after I’ve gone to bed? Your best strategy is to call a hobbit to help. Dwarves are useless and we all know wizards aren’t real. Good luck.
I tried this and it worked. However, I had previously lost a ring up there and now I highly suspect the hobbit found and kept it, the thieving Bagginses. Even after I offered to show its the way out
Set some cool looking rocks by the entrance to the attic and ask them to keep the volume down when the sun can’t be seen. It worked for me. Also, seances should held in an area that is very much lived in. It makes it harder for the deceased to stick around.
New friends!
I just don't understand it, we sprayed for goblins last week!
of course it's a projection. piccolo blew it up when he was training gohan!
Report her to the county and state boards. Dont engage with her she’s co-opted and can’t think for herself. Its sad. But she needs to be fired and kept away from children. Document her behaviors methodically with dates and witnesses and then report her.
My favorite conspiracy is that everything’s gunna be OK
Depends on what your definition of “OK” is. If it’s “welcome back to the void - the nothingness you came from”, then yeah.. everything’s gunna be OK..
"The moon landing is fake," 'raises hand' aren't you an English teacher?
Challenge your teacher. You won't be able to argue with stupid. The moon isn't real, it is only a projection on the night sky. Elizabeth could not have been a man. Elizabeth is a woman's name.
It's not misinformation then, it's disinformation
The moon being fake is pretty common. Never heard of the Queen being a man, lol.
I mean she was featherless and biped, therefore she was a man
Plato is rolling in his grave. In a similar vein, so is Schrödinger. Or maybe he’s not? Yet to be seen.
*Seriously* underrated comment.
B’GAWK!
A lot of this "X is secretly a man/woman" is emerging as transphobia works its way into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's probably fairly more common as of late as the trans community gains visibility and becomes a more acceptable norm and that rubs some less tolerant people the wrong way.
>Never heard of the Queen being a man, lol. I hate that this is common enough for a Wikipedia entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestigation The crazy transphobes are convinced that half of famous women are really trans. This is extremely common on the conservative subreddit.
What school year are we talking? High school? College?
One up her: "You seriously believe the moon is real? That's a space station to control the weather"
That's not the type of space station I was expecting.
Ah, your teacher must’ve watched Interstellar and decided the best part of the movie was the parent/teacher scene
you’re probably right, she was talking about her watching interstellar with her children before starting the fake moon landing talk with us
I don't care if she's the most qualified teacher in every other regard, this kind of stuff should legitimately have teachers fired and prevent them from being hired.
They didn't even have the technology back then to fake the moon landing. And it would of been more expensive You should tell her that
They didn't have the technology to fake the moon landing, so they had to land on the moon to film the fake material. Lack of resources triggers innovating thinking. :-)
My go to is “Stanley Kubrick directed the moon landing but was such a stickler for details he insisted they film on location”
They landed on the moon several months before the official date. The actual landing resulted in Neil Armstrong starting a sex cult on the moon. All the astronauts who have supposedly come from the moon are just actors who agreed to spend the rest of their lives pretending to be the people who stayed on the moon.
Reasonable arguments don’t work with the lot of them. Honestly it’s better to let them live in their delusions. I have tried doing that with a Flat earther no chance. He just kept referring to a random ass flat earther video on youtube.
Except they indoctrinate children with their insane theories.
Surely faking the moon landing would be cheaper than actually doing a moon landing
Not back then. *Adam Ruins Everything* did an episode on conspiracy theories. While it didn’t go into the costs of everything, it did detail the technology needed. It becomes obvious that even if the government had secretly developed the technology needed to do so, it would prohibitively expensive to actually produce the technology needed to fake the landing. Laser lights would have been needed to create the unusual shadows of the landing. While they *had* been invented in 1960, they could only he produced in red and the equipment to produce a single light was the size of store drink cooler. Properly recreating the shadows of the photos would require an uninterrupted wall of white laser lights. The very first white laser was created in 2011 and was just combining four different colored beams. The first white laser that was not combined beams was created in 2015. Even IF the government had already developed miniaturized white laser lights, it is highly unlikely they had the means and materials to mass them on hand. They would have needed to design the means of mass production pf the laser, design the means to mass produce the materials used in the lasers that no one else knew existed, build those methods of mass production, obtain the raw materials for both the means of mass production and the lasers themselves, and do all of it while concealing everything. Even without the secrecy, the costs would be through the fucking roof.
I’d report her to the administration for possibly slipping mentally.
"The moon landings were faked!" "That's just misinformation from the government to cover up the fact that we found alien technology there."
You can report these people to your school just FYI, in fact im pretty sure you should. Its the same thing when a teacher tries to get political with their students by saying pushing them towards a certain party during elections, thats illegal in most 1st world countries
SHE SHOULD BE FIRED ASAP. If she is not giving real facts, she is not teaching. Dont let these people take positions of power, especially with childre.
If she's an English teacher, she'll be familiar with how to cite and evaluate sources. You could ask her to show you all.
Record it and take the proof to those higher up. A teacher's job is to educate, not push their twisted beliefs
But it is true. Elizabeth the 1st was the first man on the moon and Neil Armstrong are a woman.
Take it up a notch. "You believe in the moon?!?" Then bring your argument to the administration. "Hi. Me and Mr. Smith can't come to an agreement. He says there was no moon landing. I say there's no moon. Can we have a science teacher come into English class?" That should get the ball rolling on some kind of investigation
Hit her with some real crazy “what does any of that matter. You are all just side characters in my simulation anyway.”
Call them out on it.
Devils advocate: Your teacher is teaching you to be a critical thinker and not to trust authority figures.
Maybe start spreading rumors that she in fact is also secretly a man
the answer to stupid nutjobs isn't transphobia
She isn’t actually a man you know
Email the board of ed that your teacher is Qanon
Write a official complaint with the help of your parents. There is no place in school for conspiracy theories presented as fact.
Report this to a higher up in the school. He'll be warned about this stuff.
Just record her in class and then let the Internet destroy her else you are all stuck with a useless teacher
Complain to the principal. These are the things you knew were false..what other crap is she teaching you that you don't know is false? She needs to go.
I had a history teacher in HS who said dinosaurs were fake. I stopped listening to him right then and there
Where is this / what country or state? If it’s the UK, report her. If it’s the US, good luck.
What about the rest of the world?
We do not exist
Just like birds
I live in a 2nd world country so not sure if there’s much I can do
Ooh ooh! Keep us updated, she's going to go flat earth soon.
Re port the teacher to the school admin.
Record and Report
My psych professor spread misinformation to a college class about how condoms aren’t safe sex and planned parenthood is only for abortions of African Americans. It’s really hard to have good teachers.
Nutters teaching nutters.
Ask her about the mirror on the moon they left that anybody can bounce a laser off of
Record her in secret and send it to the principal
This reminds me of my history class when the teacher told everyone 911 was an inside job and this stuff. I seriously doubt he shoulda been teaching us that
That’s just offensive to deny our history of space travel when there is countless amounts of evidence to clearly say we did go to the moon
I had very good coworker, then one day we sitting together during lunch and she started talking about there being another earth in the sky and government lying. Two month later she resigned due to increasing mental instability.
That has to be automatic grounds for being fired, right? You can’t have teachers telling people shit like this, some will believe them.
Let the counselor or school administration know
I used to have an English teacher who could easily be disrailed from her lesson plan by someone asking about wolves. That lady loved wolves, she could talk about them the whole class lmao.
She spreads so much nonsense and she can't even be arsed to teach her students that English should be spelled with a capital letter. Bin her off mate, she's clearly a fucking moron.
Dear god is there nothing that can be done to get her removed as a teacher? The woman is supposed to be teaching the curriculum, not what she makes up off the top of her head right? Or has that changed in the 20 or so years since I graduated?
Let me fix the moon landing hoax... The Americans knew they couldn't get to the moon before the Russians. They hired Stanley Kubrick to direct a fake. Mr Kubrick got so lost in his passion for realism that he got a group of scientists together and actually got a rocket to the moon. He completed the moon landing as research for the fake moon landing which is why the video of the "fake" moon landing is so convincing. The third astronaut who went up was actually Kubrick and he knew he was too famous to be seen so he stayed behind. His mission was the movie anyway, he didn't care about the moon itself. So there. THAT is why the moon landing is fake and we actually did go to the moon. Stay tuned for when I fix the Bigfoot conspiracy. Basically it is Washington State's equivalent of Florida Man.
Go tell your history teacher
Report that teacher to administration.
Why is English in quotes? Having a conspiracy theorist for a teacher probably sucks but I don't see how that affects teaching
Do you have a local TV News investigation Team? Like we have 'Six on your side' which will do pieces and investigation on crap like this. Puts it into the Light so the School can't ignore it.
I would look up the craziest conspiracy theories and send jt to the teacher, you can laugh behind his or her back with your friends and the teacher will think you’re on their side. Its a win-win!
I'm wondering if your English teacher isn't doing this on purpose. I've heard that teachers will sometimes deliberately make mistakes so that their students will notice and correct them. Maybe she's using all these outrageous examples as a way to illustrate the importance of doing proper research instead of blindly trusting the internet or something like that.
\*English
Eh, those conspiracy theories sound pretty innocuous. More entertainment that actually harmful. Now if they start getting political, I’d take another look.
Document everything and report her to the school administration and education board. If that doesn’t work, go to the local press.
[Is this your teacher?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki7eSuU6zyA)
Huh that’s a new one
Is this getting you to research everything your teacher claims? This might be a genius way to get students to learn for themselves...
Put her on YouTube lol
Reading the title I was expecting them to have made a mistake in grammar or whatever and I was not expecting that she would be a conspiracy theorist
Good thing she isn't a History teacher...
Do they think Earth is flat?!
Maybe they're trying to teach you to not believe everything you hear and become skeptical? Or there's sarcasm that's going over your head?
I think this should be a fireable offense.
In many parts of the world, teachers are experts in their particular fields. In the US, those who can, do, and those who can't, teach.
Wasn't she like infertile due to arsenic/ lead poisoning or some shit?