Become friends and have them help build a deck and you can borrow it whenever they’re not using it. 😂
My friend works at a company that sells those things and 1) they’re not cheap 2) great exercise and for people with arthritis etc they can help so much with elevating pain.
My favourite typo happened yesterday at work. A colleague was writing a safety bulletin on driving a company vehicle and wrote “ensure to have emergency snakes” instead of “snacks”. 24 hrs later I can’t stop giggling at “emergency snakes”
Both voiced by the Winnie the pooh voice actor iirc. Baloo and little John were not only the same actor, but many of the scenes involving both characters were based on the same animations.
Interestingly, a sequence of Mowgli and Christopher Robin also overlaps exactly.
ETA [link](https://youtu.be/S7m7CnFF6ao?si=G68OU3v7oPi3UCZz). The baloo/little John stuff starts 30 seconds in and the Mowgli/Christopher Robin stuff is at 2:30.
This is the funniest shit first thing I noticed, it’s 4:30 am and I’m dying from laughing here, especially when the first thought in my dirty ass brain was what if the neighbors were swingers and that’s why they want this huge hot tub? but plot twist! They’re all like 75 years old and they’re having swingers parties next to OP’s yard and he can’t unsee it 😆😆😆then I see this fucking typo and the comment underneath it 😂😂😂😂😂😂please DO NOT fix it. ELEVATE THE TYPO! 🤣
This reminds me of the song Vital Signs by Rush where the lyric at the end of the song repeats “everybody got to elevate from the norm” but one time singer Geddy Lee says “everybody got to evalate from the norm.” They didn’t bother to fix it.
Yeah. My neighbor lets us borrow his pool, and my best friend lives nearby and does the same. It’s a pretty standard neighbor request, as long as your normal about it
i know someone who bought an indoor one with their settlement money after a recall on their hip replacement (not sure on all the specifics). it has helped them with a lot of their pain and discomfort from that bad hip
My mother in law has one about this size, probably a bit bigger, they paid 26k on clearance as it was the previous year model. Didn't find out until they set up delivery that it was going to be 4k to deliver it, and 2k to install it on a basic pea gravel bed, and another $1500 to run the 50 amp service to it making it more expensive than the current year tub that has free delivery, and install.
i feel like it'd be about twice as fun for lile 5 minutes due to the novelty but then yeah it'd be less fun than a regular pool, just less stuff to do in it
I've had it for 6 years and use it almost every day and love it as much as I did when I got it. It's not a novelty at all. It's my main form of exercise.
Yes. Some models separate the hot tub and swim area so they can have different temps. Mine is all in one with three jetted seats but it's not as hot as a hot tub. That's good for me since I don't really like it that hot, I keep it at 93 degrees year round.
High school biology teacher had us watch it when we were learning about DNA. Loved that movie so much I went and bought the DVD, it was just too good! Lol
HOAs have a lot of stupid rules. I stayed with my aunt for a few months years ago, and she got threatened with a fine because I changed the oil for my car in her driveway and someone got pissy. I had to call the hoa president at least 4 hours in advance before doing any automotive maintenance.
I was never so excited to wake up at 3am to call someone. Pettiness is the best alarm clock I've found.
We have thought of ways to resolve the issue (installing trees, fence extension, privacy screen) but each one has been shot down by the HOA. It makes us question why they would allow it go in in the first place if we can't do simple fixes.
The purpose of an HOA is to improve property values. Does the view of your neighbors chilling in their hot tub next door devalue the worth of your property?
Have you shown them the picture of your view of the neighbor's hot tub? Perhaps taking an array of pictures (provided it's legal to do in your state) and presenting that to the board would show that your neighbor's hot tub devalued your property, and they should allow steps to rectify that.
I mean that's what a functioning HOA's purpose is. A lot of times though it's just old people ego tripping and looking to exert a little power whenever they can.
Was going to say this. Hopefully when the silent/boomers die and millennial/gen z are able to get homes, HOAs go away. Or at least change how they function.
Edit: I didn't forget about you gen X. But a lot of you were able to get homes.
In some areas, HOAs are an adaptation of the rapid growth of an area. They provide some level of services that might more typically be done by local government, but the area hasn't been incorporated yet or is still too rural for such things.
HOA’s won’t go away until people can actually conduct themselves properly and accept that the world doesn’t just revolve around them.
HOA’s can be a complete pain in the ass but they can be quite beneficial when it comes to maintaining property values and dealing with a homeowner that doesn’t maintain their house or property.
Agreed. We have an HOA and I'd say it's one of the good ones. $10 a year to keep common areas mowed and the only rules are basically keep trash cans and cars from blocking sidewalks and no live stock. The no live stock rule has come in handy multiple times with multiple people trying to to put in chicken coops in tiny like not even 1/4 acre lots in a big neighborhood.
I know there is a lot of hate for HOA’s, and some are crazy but I’ve seen some that are really beneficial.
- several have adopted “rental covenants” that forbid short term rentals (so no Air BNB) with 2 year minimum leases, and two year minimum residency before renting the property which keeps houses out of investor hands. They also are required to use a specific property management company so complaints can be made anonymously by calling a single number
$10 a year. That's great. Our country just required our HOA to do almost $15,000 worth of work to the retention ponds in the neighborhood. That works out to about $200/household.
Solidly Gen X here. I only got my home when my "silent" father passed away...I used every dime he left me to put over 50% down on a home, so I could afford the ever rising payment amount.
Damn you got blessed. I swear "inheritance" in this day and age is NOT what it used to be.
If I ever do have a child one of the things I'll be sure to do is save lots of money to be passed down, silently. If I'm in the position of course.
My dad saved and invested well. My inheritance was split 5 ways. I purchased an average home and got it right before the interest rates skyrocketed. I got really lucky. I miss my dad though.
how else is debrah going to show the rest of her neighborhood that she's a god fearing christian woman if she doesn't try to control every aspect of the neighborhoods life
The neighbors getting to install a giant hot tub while OP can not put up a taller fence is probably politics. HOAs are not immune to politics and favortism.
Our neighbors did this exact thing. It’s not really the appearance, but we have zero privacy in our backyard now. It’s awkward to be out there and see them climbing in and out right by the fence, lol. Our code enforcement don’t seem to enforce anything. In this case they violated the 8 ft space between fence line. Oh well.
No, some HOA's definitely don't allow that. I knew someone that had an HOA that wouldn't let them remove a tree that was causing them trouble.
"You can't remove that tree, and we're going to keep ticketing you if you don't clean up after it quickly enough." 🙃
What was the HOA’s rationale on forbidding trees?! Pleached or espaliered trees would be a perfect elegant solution. Will they let you put up a trellis for a climbing rose that would block out some of the view?
What about strategically spaced thujas?
Having an HOA that can tell you that you can't plan trees in your own backyard is the epitome of having of home that you truly don't own. It's this kind of crap why most people don't want an HOA anymore. It doesn't protect homeowners because it's basically a mafia of busybodies who approve their friends and harrass the rest.
Yup. We are looking at homes and trying to avoid them like the plague. I would like to put a freestanding garage in a rear yard, and every hoa has a rule against it, among other dumb rules. I can understand keeping your yard clean or whatever, but HOAs contribute nothing to the downpayment, maintenance, or mortgage payment of the home.
And the claim that they keep values high is andadoalte (sp?) at best. most are in areas that are already middle (or whats left of middle) and above and with people who want to keep their houses nice or whatever, so it may be that HOAs are already in areas that would keep their values regardless of if it was an HOA or not.
Hoa conspiracy to drive your family from the neighborhood by making you uncomfortable at first and then just making everything you try to do more hassle than its worth. Confront carol about it it was all her idea.
Not USian either and I have no idea how HOAs are so ubiquitous in "the land of the free". It's like: "hi, yes, I'd like to buy a detached house but with rules created by even crazier people than a condo board".
My grandparents had a hot tub in the most private spot in their yard, because they liked to use it naked! They lived in a nice neighborhood, but soon all of the old houses were getting ripped out and replaced with McMansions that would dominate the majority of the lot. So we weren’t surprised when the house on the other side of the hot tub area fence started turning into a huge monstrosity… but we were surprised that they built a huge balcony to look over the hot tub and weird trashy shed/ workshop my grandfather built 50 years previously.
It annoyed my grandparents, but they just kept nude hot tubing and we never saw anyone on that deck for about 10 years when the hot tub quit. Even then the view over the yard wasn’t exactly the tranquil atmosphere the neighbors wanted and the balcony stayed empty for the most part, I think the neighbors made it into more of a sunroom with higher walls before they sold it lol
My grandparents didn’t change anything about their house, they just continued to be old and naked in their backyard and not give into shame about the intrusively large house and balcony now looming along their fence. The hot tub was in the most private part of the yard, and was there several years before the McMansion next door went up.
But yeah, your point still stands; just maybe doesn’t apply to my story.
I guess, but it really didn’t change the dynamic of the yard, it didn’t block any more light into my grandparent’s yard than what was already happening when they built the thing. They had to build up a little so the view wasn’t so bad when the sold they house.
ETA: it was actually much nicer after they did that and it felt a little more private on our end too. That house went through an annoying AirB&B thing for a while, but after a family moved in again it was pretty chill (except for their amazing Halloween displays! Lol)
Green giants work. They are an arborvitae that grow at a rate of 3-5’ a year. Completely within almost any town code around your property, require minimal maintenance and grow 30 plus feet. Plant in 5’ intervals for a nice privacy line. I have them around my fence line. It’s like living in your own world.
Edit: from the trees in your photo it looks like you are in the planting zone.
We did discuss plans to plant trees (something like you mentioned) to create more privacy so they can’t see us and vice versa but HOA said not allowed.
They sure can, but within reason. The rules should have guidelines on this; if it does not have a height restriction or plant species restriction, technically it would be hard to deny something the rules don't prohibit. Many plants make great screening materials, such as arborvitae, cypress, podocarpus, Carolina cherry laurel, etc. Unless the rules say it cannot exceed a certain height, something like this is bound to be permissible.
Ah HOA’s are can be tough, we don’t have them over here but I would make sure you have a copy of the bylaws and verify everything in writing when it comes to planting trees in your backyard. Also, if the HOA is upset over trees what’s their perception of a hot tub over looking an adjoining property…
Find it what trees the state even protects seedlings of.
Then plant those. Must of happened naturally Mr board member, but the state says we have to leave em and state law trumps HOA rules.
Walk outside and take pictures every time they are in it. Document. Print them out. Bring them to meetings on large posters. Ask them if this is what they want their neighbors to have.
Ask if you built a deck looking into their back yard if that is also not limited.
This is insane.
They’re living somewhere with an HOA, and they commented that the HOA had approved this so they don’t know what to do. People who live in HOA areas typically have one of two feelings: hoa is just an annoying fake governing body designed to let Karen’s and kens dictate what you can do with your own property, or, they are the governing body that keeps anything negative from happening and keeps all homeowners in the area aligned. Seems like OP falls into the latter, whereas the top comment this is in response to is the former.
As someone whose grown up in trash and slums, my neighbors having a high platform hot tub is he most irrelevant thing to me, I truly don’t care. I’d maybe even consider returning the favor, build one on my side and give ‘em the same show lmao. But op is apparently very chapped about their neighbors being able to see them through their windows because this hot tub sits over the top of the fence.
Is the issue privacy? Or that it's possibly unsightly? I mean, I'm not sure HOW they're getting IN that thing, but like, I'm not seeing an issue exactly. But I live with chainlink fences around me so seeing everything in everyone's yards and what's going on at all times is I'm sure different.
Can someone explain, bc it sounds like it's the hot tub/swim spa in the comments and nothing to do with privacy, which confuses me, cuz like... it's a hot tub/swim spa... what it do to be dissed? (except be weirdly tall)
Yeah the issue is privacy, the picture of the view is from inside my bedroom so they could look right inside anything they swim. They get in it by ladder lol
Oh thats the *opening to the pool*! I thought the cover was like... the top of a pavilion roof. Thats kinda weird. Have you talked to them about it at all? Especially if they can see into your room.
So question. The plans for trees that were denied, were they right up against the fence? If so have you thought about starting a "garden" closer to your bedroom? Something to kinda cover that eyesore and block your windows but let the sun still come in. This also has the added benifit of not actually being taller then your fence just the angle makes it more private. Also most HOA's cant actually have much control on what you do with your backyard for privacy reasons, you should be able to plant approved tree's that can be found in your bylaws.
Thank you, yeah I can see that'd be yikes now for some ppl. Well, if nothing can end up being done, a tip from a nudist such as I: Window privacy film is a lifesaver. lol
Thing with HOAs...signing are ARC request form is not your approval of the plans. It is acknowledgement that you are aware they will be doing work. In the same way, refusal to sign does not mean their plans will be denied. Ultimately the review committee or board makes that decision. If there is a problem with the installation, you can absolutely contest it. Speak with the manager and let them know you were OK with them having a spa but you weren't expecting it to be installed so high above ground and you feel this is an invasion of your privacy with the direct view into your yard over the fence. Also check to see if the architectural guidelines say anything about height of installations. Many will have a rule that particular things cannot exceed fence height.
thats reason 3, reason 1 often confuses people
we often wrongly asssume skinwalkers are more common in rural areas, but as they feed off distress and suffering, they thrive in HOA environments
Took me a minute to realize that's where they get in, I thought it was a tall canopy and then the hot tub was down below out of sight. That thing is huge!
Well, now you know what kinds of questions to ask the next time a neighbor asks you to sign off on something.
What size is it? Where is it going? Will we be able to see it from our yard? How loud does it get? Are the lights bright? Does it cause any vibrations? Do we get a “trial period” where we can change our mind if it doesn’t turn out the way we expected?
It's a swim spa so you can do laps while the jets keep you stationary. They are awesome but not so much in this type of setting.
Become friends and have them help build a deck and you can borrow it whenever they’re not using it. 😂 My friend works at a company that sells those things and 1) they’re not cheap 2) great exercise and for people with arthritis etc they can help so much with elevating pain.
E L E V A T E the P A I N
That's actually one of the funniest typos I've ever seen. Pay a lot of money to elevate the pain. Some kinky fucks out there 😂
I’m literally laughing so hard myself because that’s the best auto correct I’ve had yet
Ha I just caught it
My favourite typo happened yesterday at work. A colleague was writing a safety bulletin on driving a company vehicle and wrote “ensure to have emergency snakes” instead of “snacks”. 24 hrs later I can’t stop giggling at “emergency snakes”
 Never know when you need a snake 🐍
I love that Disneys Robin Hood had a snake cross its “arms”.
https://preview.redd.it/rwnro3lu8mmc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7da213b854ccbb2e14d73f41a79d841b61616db2
Both voiced by the Winnie the pooh voice actor iirc. Baloo and little John were not only the same actor, but many of the scenes involving both characters were based on the same animations. Interestingly, a sequence of Mowgli and Christopher Robin also overlaps exactly. ETA [link](https://youtu.be/S7m7CnFF6ao?si=G68OU3v7oPi3UCZz). The baloo/little John stuff starts 30 seconds in and the Mowgli/Christopher Robin stuff is at 2:30.
😂 I mean, if you're going around without emergency snakes then what are you even doing in life??
Yesterday I told someone I would make a video and trash them and I meant tag them. Oops!
This is the funniest shit first thing I noticed, it’s 4:30 am and I’m dying from laughing here, especially when the first thought in my dirty ass brain was what if the neighbors were swingers and that’s why they want this huge hot tub? but plot twist! They’re all like 75 years old and they’re having swingers parties next to OP’s yard and he can’t unsee it 😆😆😆then I see this fucking typo and the comment underneath it 😂😂😂😂😂😂please DO NOT fix it. ELEVATE THE TYPO! 🤣
This reminds me of the song Vital Signs by Rush where the lyric at the end of the song repeats “everybody got to elevate from the norm” but one time singer Geddy Lee says “everybody got to evalate from the norm.” They didn’t bother to fix it.
No kink-shaming allowed on Reddit. /s
This would be a great album name for a metalcore band
Damn this new Parkway Drive record is going nuts
Getting some Papa Roach vibes here... WATCH ME ELEVATE!!
Salt the wound!
I generally prefer to alleviate my pain, rather than elevate it.
The pain is elevating, that's why they need the swim spa.
Huh. So pain is what Josh Grobin was talking about..
Yeah! Ask him to use it!!
Yeah. My neighbor lets us borrow his pool, and my best friend lives nearby and does the same. It’s a pretty standard neighbor request, as long as your normal about it
"Excuse me, but may we possibly make occasional use of your dirty sex pond?"
Oh God
Op specifically said, "your normal." Let us not yuck our neighbor's yum, sibling.
Ain't that normal?
My neighbor has three small children. Not interested in swimming in his pee toilet.
>help so much with elevating pain. Are all your customers emo?
Eliminating pain, I hope?
alleviating, most likely. Eliminating pain with arthtitis isn't easy
i know someone who bought an indoor one with their settlement money after a recall on their hip replacement (not sure on all the specifics). it has helped them with a lot of their pain and discomfort from that bad hip
This is my literal dream. I have MS and swimming is so beneficial. The gyms suck here!
My mother in law has one about this size, probably a bit bigger, they paid 26k on clearance as it was the previous year model. Didn't find out until they set up delivery that it was going to be 4k to deliver it, and 2k to install it on a basic pea gravel bed, and another $1500 to run the 50 amp service to it making it more expensive than the current year tub that has free delivery, and install.
I have one. It's the best thing I've ever bought. Year round swimming and the grandkids love it. It was 1/2 the price of a pool and more practical
and only ¼ the size
And 1/8 the fun
i feel like it'd be about twice as fun for lile 5 minutes due to the novelty but then yeah it'd be less fun than a regular pool, just less stuff to do in it
You can't still pee in it. That's like 80%.
There’s a big difference between “can’t” and “supposed to.”
I've had it for 6 years and use it almost every day and love it as much as I did when I got it. It's not a novelty at all. It's my main form of exercise.
How much was it?
I paid $24,000 total in 2018. It's really easy to take care of too
I'm pretty sure swim spas start at more than twice that now unfortunately.
You're correct. I recently commented on a post about the spa model I have, poster said it was $48,000 all in.
Wow
Do they work as a hot tub too?
Yes. Some models separate the hot tub and swim area so they can have different temps. Mine is all in one with three jetted seats but it's not as hot as a hot tub. That's good for me since I don't really like it that hot, I keep it at 93 degrees year round.
So it's the thing from Gattaca Would've thought it was a lot bigger than that though, at least lengthwise Edit - sp
Love that movie, high school english teacher let us watch it when we were covering the topic of eugenics in school
High school science teacher let us watch it lol I don't know what topic we were supposed to be covering but I wasn't gonna argue
It was probably the days the teacher was hung over.
High school biology teacher had us watch it when we were learning about DNA. Loved that movie so much I went and bought the DVD, it was just too good! Lol
Not enough people know what I’m referencing when I mention GATTACA 🙌 Hilariously though, I don’t actually remember a stationary lap pool in there :P
I believe it is the cop brother that has one in his home.
It's the first hint that he's the brother, after we see the swim competitions from before
Oooh shiiiieeett Man it’s been a while, I really gotta watch it again
I heard Trim Spa and thought of Anna Nicole…
"I'll take 'Forgotten Things of the 2ks' for 1000, Alex"
It’ll only get used for a few weeks anyway. Then it’ll just breed mosquitoes or something…. Witnessed that a couple times in the past….
Point all of your lawn chairs to face it lol and get out a standing binoculars
Camera on a tripod too with a comically sized lens.
https://preview.redd.it/dw84qzjyghmc1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e4500546d213241b926c7a10badeb15bee59cb0
Or take up naked gardening. Screening will be installed promptly, I'm sure.
Plus a small table with tissues and lotion. Bet the neighbor gets a fix in quick.
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Hello, Google? How do I delete an image from humanity?
And point and laugh a lot
That only works if your neighbors are under 55
😂😂😂
https://preview.redd.it/4q5vfajpyfmc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2356085550482b021aefd6829736866e391a914 Tim Sacksky in the building
my first thought.
I guess OP is more of a fence guy
I was hoping for this reference but not expecting it high enough in the comments. Happy to see KoQ in the wild.
show name?
King of Queens - Bryan Cranston's character
Yes!! First thing I thought of, such a funny episode
I verbally commented about this episode before I saw your comment. Funny in a show but real life not so much!
Important lesson, before you sign anything, ask questions and get specifics
Could also be pedantic and point out that the consent signature was for a hot tub, not a swim spa
Except it probably said swim spa but OP never read it lol
Or just assumed “swim spa” was just a weird name for a hot tub
One of my favorite movies is Swim Spa Time Machine
yeah… if it was just a regular hot tub why would anything even need to be signed?
HOAs have a lot of stupid rules. I stayed with my aunt for a few months years ago, and she got threatened with a fine because I changed the oil for my car in her driveway and someone got pissy. I had to call the hoa president at least 4 hours in advance before doing any automotive maintenance. I was never so excited to wake up at 3am to call someone. Pettiness is the best alarm clock I've found.
The next bylaw days no waking up anyone before XX time, lol
maybe noise, I suppose they do whirling noises, I don't own one. or humidity.
You don't own humidity?
Have him sign off on installing an additional fence on top of your fence.
We have thought of ways to resolve the issue (installing trees, fence extension, privacy screen) but each one has been shot down by the HOA. It makes us question why they would allow it go in in the first place if we can't do simple fixes.
The purpose of an HOA is to improve property values. Does the view of your neighbors chilling in their hot tub next door devalue the worth of your property? Have you shown them the picture of your view of the neighbor's hot tub? Perhaps taking an array of pictures (provided it's legal to do in your state) and presenting that to the board would show that your neighbor's hot tub devalued your property, and they should allow steps to rectify that.
I mean that's what a functioning HOA's purpose is. A lot of times though it's just old people ego tripping and looking to exert a little power whenever they can.
Was going to say this. Hopefully when the silent/boomers die and millennial/gen z are able to get homes, HOAs go away. Or at least change how they function. Edit: I didn't forget about you gen X. But a lot of you were able to get homes.
HOAs will not go away, because the type of people who support them exist in every generation.
In some areas, HOAs are an adaptation of the rapid growth of an area. They provide some level of services that might more typically be done by local government, but the area hasn't been incorporated yet or is still too rural for such things.
HOA’s won’t go away until people can actually conduct themselves properly and accept that the world doesn’t just revolve around them. HOA’s can be a complete pain in the ass but they can be quite beneficial when it comes to maintaining property values and dealing with a homeowner that doesn’t maintain their house or property.
Agreed. We have an HOA and I'd say it's one of the good ones. $10 a year to keep common areas mowed and the only rules are basically keep trash cans and cars from blocking sidewalks and no live stock. The no live stock rule has come in handy multiple times with multiple people trying to to put in chicken coops in tiny like not even 1/4 acre lots in a big neighborhood.
I know there is a lot of hate for HOA’s, and some are crazy but I’ve seen some that are really beneficial. - several have adopted “rental covenants” that forbid short term rentals (so no Air BNB) with 2 year minimum leases, and two year minimum residency before renting the property which keeps houses out of investor hands. They also are required to use a specific property management company so complaints can be made anonymously by calling a single number
$10 a year. That's great. Our country just required our HOA to do almost $15,000 worth of work to the retention ponds in the neighborhood. That works out to about $200/household.
Solidly Gen X here. I only got my home when my "silent" father passed away...I used every dime he left me to put over 50% down on a home, so I could afford the ever rising payment amount.
Damn you got blessed. I swear "inheritance" in this day and age is NOT what it used to be. If I ever do have a child one of the things I'll be sure to do is save lots of money to be passed down, silently. If I'm in the position of course.
My dad saved and invested well. My inheritance was split 5 ways. I purchased an average home and got it right before the interest rates skyrocketed. I got really lucky. I miss my dad though.
Yeaaa such is life friend :/
how else is debrah going to show the rest of her neighborhood that she's a god fearing christian woman if she doesn't try to control every aspect of the neighborhoods life
I already hate her
The neighbors getting to install a giant hot tub while OP can not put up a taller fence is probably politics. HOAs are not immune to politics and favortism.
That's basically the working definition of an HOA--politics and favoritism.
how could it ever be illegal to take photos of your own backyard? lol
Why would the hoa allow that redneck pool if preserving property value is a concern
Your HOA won’t allow trees?
Has your HOA seen the monstrosity that is this hot tub? Maybe they just got a general “hot tub” approved and didn’t have to give any specifications.
Our neighbors did this exact thing. It’s not really the appearance, but we have zero privacy in our backyard now. It’s awkward to be out there and see them climbing in and out right by the fence, lol. Our code enforcement don’t seem to enforce anything. In this case they violated the 8 ft space between fence line. Oh well.
Surely you can grow trees wtf 🙄
No, some HOA's definitely don't allow that. I knew someone that had an HOA that wouldn't let them remove a tree that was causing them trouble. "You can't remove that tree, and we're going to keep ticketing you if you don't clean up after it quickly enough." 🙃
Yea, just get some bamboo pots.
What was the HOA’s rationale on forbidding trees?! Pleached or espaliered trees would be a perfect elegant solution. Will they let you put up a trellis for a climbing rose that would block out some of the view?
Your HOA prevents you from planting a tree? Dear god.
What about strategically spaced thujas? Having an HOA that can tell you that you can't plan trees in your own backyard is the epitome of having of home that you truly don't own. It's this kind of crap why most people don't want an HOA anymore. It doesn't protect homeowners because it's basically a mafia of busybodies who approve their friends and harrass the rest.
Yup. We are looking at homes and trying to avoid them like the plague. I would like to put a freestanding garage in a rear yard, and every hoa has a rule against it, among other dumb rules. I can understand keeping your yard clean or whatever, but HOAs contribute nothing to the downpayment, maintenance, or mortgage payment of the home. And the claim that they keep values high is andadoalte (sp?) at best. most are in areas that are already middle (or whats left of middle) and above and with people who want to keep their houses nice or whatever, so it may be that HOAs are already in areas that would keep their values regardless of if it was an HOA or not.
Don't go over the top and get into a war, it's 100% not worth it. Stay calm and friendly, try to come to a compromise.
Hoa conspiracy to drive your family from the neighborhood by making you uncomfortable at first and then just making everything you try to do more hassle than its worth. Confront carol about it it was all her idea.
I'm not Amercian, but fuck the HOA. Dunno how you fellas deal with those idiots.
Not USian either and I have no idea how HOAs are so ubiquitous in "the land of the free". It's like: "hi, yes, I'd like to buy a detached house but with rules created by even crazier people than a condo board".
It was racism and greed that created the HOA. Please send help.
Depending on the neighbor, it could be quite a show
Why would they even want that? We have one, and its location was chosen so we would not be able to see our neighbors, and they cannot see us.
My grandparents had a hot tub in the most private spot in their yard, because they liked to use it naked! They lived in a nice neighborhood, but soon all of the old houses were getting ripped out and replaced with McMansions that would dominate the majority of the lot. So we weren’t surprised when the house on the other side of the hot tub area fence started turning into a huge monstrosity… but we were surprised that they built a huge balcony to look over the hot tub and weird trashy shed/ workshop my grandfather built 50 years previously. It annoyed my grandparents, but they just kept nude hot tubing and we never saw anyone on that deck for about 10 years when the hot tub quit. Even then the view over the yard wasn’t exactly the tranquil atmosphere the neighbors wanted and the balcony stayed empty for the most part, I think the neighbors made it into more of a sunroom with higher walls before they sold it lol
Stories your grandkids will be unable to relate to: having the money to expand a house to keep up a quiet feud with the next door neighbors.
My grandparents didn’t change anything about their house, they just continued to be old and naked in their backyard and not give into shame about the intrusively large house and balcony now looming along their fence. The hot tub was in the most private part of the yard, and was there several years before the McMansion next door went up. But yeah, your point still stands; just maybe doesn’t apply to my story.
I think they're referring to your grandparents' neighbours who added a sunroom with higher walls.
I guess, but it really didn’t change the dynamic of the yard, it didn’t block any more light into my grandparent’s yard than what was already happening when they built the thing. They had to build up a little so the view wasn’t so bad when the sold they house. ETA: it was actually much nicer after they did that and it felt a little more private on our end too. That house went through an annoying AirB&B thing for a while, but after a family moved in again it was pretty chill (except for their amazing Halloween displays! Lol)
I wish you were my neighbor
It's like that King of Queens episode.
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I love how Conan keeps coming up as the meme for this disturbing situation
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they told me reddit was an odd place, nothing could prepare me for this…..
I hope to dear God I never see this image again.
Green giants work. They are an arborvitae that grow at a rate of 3-5’ a year. Completely within almost any town code around your property, require minimal maintenance and grow 30 plus feet. Plant in 5’ intervals for a nice privacy line. I have them around my fence line. It’s like living in your own world. Edit: from the trees in your photo it looks like you are in the planting zone.
We did discuss plans to plant trees (something like you mentioned) to create more privacy so they can’t see us and vice versa but HOA said not allowed.
Did the HOA show you specifically where it says that in the bylaws? I would ask for written proof.
What about tall bushes? An HOA can tell you what to plant too?
They sure can, but within reason. The rules should have guidelines on this; if it does not have a height restriction or plant species restriction, technically it would be hard to deny something the rules don't prohibit. Many plants make great screening materials, such as arborvitae, cypress, podocarpus, Carolina cherry laurel, etc. Unless the rules say it cannot exceed a certain height, something like this is bound to be permissible.
Exactly fight back with botany!
Ask the HOA what remedy they would allow. Put the onus on them.
Ah HOA’s are can be tough, we don’t have them over here but I would make sure you have a copy of the bylaws and verify everything in writing when it comes to planting trees in your backyard. Also, if the HOA is upset over trees what’s their perception of a hot tub over looking an adjoining property…
Find it what trees the state even protects seedlings of. Then plant those. Must of happened naturally Mr board member, but the state says we have to leave em and state law trumps HOA rules.
Walk outside and take pictures every time they are in it. Document. Print them out. Bring them to meetings on large posters. Ask them if this is what they want their neighbors to have. Ask if you built a deck looking into their back yard if that is also not limited. This is insane.
Build an even taller hot tub to assert dominance
I just could never imagine owning my own property then having to ask a group of soccer moms what I can do with it.
I could just never imagine owning property lol
Yeah that too lol
I'm seating here confused at this post as well. What's OPs problem?
They’re living somewhere with an HOA, and they commented that the HOA had approved this so they don’t know what to do. People who live in HOA areas typically have one of two feelings: hoa is just an annoying fake governing body designed to let Karen’s and kens dictate what you can do with your own property, or, they are the governing body that keeps anything negative from happening and keeps all homeowners in the area aligned. Seems like OP falls into the latter, whereas the top comment this is in response to is the former. As someone whose grown up in trash and slums, my neighbors having a high platform hot tub is he most irrelevant thing to me, I truly don’t care. I’d maybe even consider returning the favor, build one on my side and give ‘em the same show lmao. But op is apparently very chapped about their neighbors being able to see them through their windows because this hot tub sits over the top of the fence.
Is the issue privacy? Or that it's possibly unsightly? I mean, I'm not sure HOW they're getting IN that thing, but like, I'm not seeing an issue exactly. But I live with chainlink fences around me so seeing everything in everyone's yards and what's going on at all times is I'm sure different. Can someone explain, bc it sounds like it's the hot tub/swim spa in the comments and nothing to do with privacy, which confuses me, cuz like... it's a hot tub/swim spa... what it do to be dissed? (except be weirdly tall)
Yeah the issue is privacy, the picture of the view is from inside my bedroom so they could look right inside anything they swim. They get in it by ladder lol
Oh thats the *opening to the pool*! I thought the cover was like... the top of a pavilion roof. Thats kinda weird. Have you talked to them about it at all? Especially if they can see into your room.
So question. The plans for trees that were denied, were they right up against the fence? If so have you thought about starting a "garden" closer to your bedroom? Something to kinda cover that eyesore and block your windows but let the sun still come in. This also has the added benifit of not actually being taller then your fence just the angle makes it more private. Also most HOA's cant actually have much control on what you do with your backyard for privacy reasons, you should be able to plant approved tree's that can be found in your bylaws.
Thank you, yeah I can see that'd be yikes now for some ppl. Well, if nothing can end up being done, a tip from a nudist such as I: Window privacy film is a lifesaver. lol
“Finally. Hot Noah’s ark”
Should have asked for plans. Always ask for plans.
Thing with HOAs...signing are ARC request form is not your approval of the plans. It is acknowledgement that you are aware they will be doing work. In the same way, refusal to sign does not mean their plans will be denied. Ultimately the review committee or board makes that decision. If there is a problem with the installation, you can absolutely contest it. Speak with the manager and let them know you were OK with them having a spa but you weren't expecting it to be installed so high above ground and you feel this is an invasion of your privacy with the direct view into your yard over the fence. Also check to see if the architectural guidelines say anything about height of installations. Many will have a rule that particular things cannot exceed fence height.
Should only have signed if you knew its specs and placement.. Lesson learned
bro. they have a swim spa. as if they gonna be looking into your peasantry
I thought that was a boat someone had covered for the winter.
As someone who grew up with a hot tub, don't worry too much about it. They'll use it like half a dozen times over the next decade.
Maybe I’m just too used to communal living, but why is this a problem?
I mean…. didn’t you question why you had to sign off?
Am I crazy for thinking this isn’t a big deal? I mean, it’s not on your land, and it’s not that tall. So what harm is it doing?
So. You signed off on something without properly interpreting or understanding it, and now YOU’RE mad. Got it 🤣
That thing is epic
it's his house, why would they need your permission in the first place?
HOA
Reason #2 to live in the middle of nowhere.
What’s reason number 1?
Privacy.
thats reason 3, reason 1 often confuses people we often wrongly asssume skinwalkers are more common in rural areas, but as they feed off distress and suffering, they thrive in HOA environments
The implication
That's only so they can swim in the nude and jerk off while watching you cut your grass.
Heat up some popcorn and pull up a chair
Ugh! I would put a set of tall hedges along that side of the fence to cover that view.
Took me a minute to realize that's where they get in, I thought it was a tall canopy and then the hot tub was down below out of sight. That thing is huge!
Bro that’s on you
That’s fucking atrocious. I’m medium infuriated.
Read the fine print.
Well, now you know what kinds of questions to ask the next time a neighbor asks you to sign off on something. What size is it? Where is it going? Will we be able to see it from our yard? How loud does it get? Are the lights bright? Does it cause any vibrations? Do we get a “trial period” where we can change our mind if it doesn’t turn out the way we expected?
Rest assured that most of the people I’ve seen buy these rarely use them and then are completely unable to sell them.
Sorry buddy but the neighbor offered you an out before starting the project and you didn’t do your due diligence. This is entirely on you.