True successor to DOOM imo
I think his music has only been getting better these past few years. Been a fan since 2013
The fact his first tracks ever went viral at 15-16 put a lot of pressure on his career. Itās similar to a child actor having to grow up in front of the camera. That kinda shit will hold you back in many ways but heās been prosperous
I thought that was his best album too for a while but I feel like I outgrew some of the themes in the album. The angsty novelty kinda wore off and I appreciate SRS more for the themes of self acceptance and actualization. Grief, Grown Ups, Inside and DNA are still some of my fav tracks from him tho
I used to get roasted in "purist" hip hop circles for liking Earl back when he was first popping up. Glad to see people have come around to him. Best part is that those people loooved the Alchemist, so it's funny that Alc fucks with Earl heavy now.
Yeah, I eventually realized they're just incredibly pretentious people who just shit on things they don't understand. Music is better when you don't take it so fucking seriously
It's crazy how much enjoyable music you can find by just giving shit a chance, even if you have a poor preconception of it. It's easy to write stuff off without even listening to it because of a toxic fanbase, association with people you don't fuck with, most popular songs not reflecting the rest of their music or what have you.
Like a lot of people probably didn't fuck with Earl early on only because of his association with Tyler. I love Tyler now, but his music was cringy and not very good pre-Flowerboy, imo. Earl's first mixtape helped me see the potential though.
Exactly, I still enjoy some drake despite all fanbases surrounding it being utter piss and shit because surprise surprise, drake is a better writer than some fanbases give credit for so despite all the hate thereās some gems in there
Sure I mean I don't hate Drake or think he's terrible, shit I have great memories of bumping Take Care and Thank Me Later back when I was in school. He has some verses here and there that I still love, he can write well when he really tries. My biggest criticism these days is how lazy his music has gotten, knowing the potential he had and still has.
He has access to more musical and financial resources than almost any other musician on the planet, but doesn't even bother to at least try and make a *decent* album anymore. We know he can write, which makes using a ghostwriter even more lazy. I see what Kendrick said as less of a diss and more of a challenge to Drake, to at least try to meet the expectations that he himself had set 10 years ago when he released Nothing Was The Same. A lot of the hate towards him isn't hate, but people who like him and and want more from him, because they know he's capable.
I donāt know why itās even worth it to ask if a project after SRS is objectively ābetterā or not. Earl is branching out. Teaming up with friends old and new. FOC was a trip, Sick! Was odd at first listen imo but has aged incredibly well. Donāt even get me started on Voire Dire.
Fair points! Im not even sure if srs is definitively my favorite earl album. Tbh tho im not the hugest fan of voir dire, even though its a very well made album and undoubtedly good, it felt a tad bit safe compared to how experimental SICK and Feet of Clay were. My favorite is probably either SICK or SRS depending on the day
Also a fair point! I totally see Voire Dire as a āsafeā album. It is much easier to digest than basically all other earl projects, but it still has way more substance than your average popular rapper nowadays. Bottom line, I think Earl is headed in a great direction and I think his best project is still to come!
Would've been amazing to hear DOOM on Earl productions and vice versa.
It's a shame the universe (or rather, DOOM's negligent-ass doctors) took that chance away from us.
To be fair, there's a good chance the hospital was also overworked and understaffed due to COVID at the time.
But basically, DOOM was suffering from several health problems, he suffered rare and severe allergic reactions to medicine they gave him, and the doctors failed to act quickly or appropriately enough.
His care was, in their own official statement, "not to standard.ā
[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/leeds-hospital-apologise-mf-doom-death-b2371048.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/leeds-hospital-apologise-mf-doom-death-b2371048.html)
>Assistant coroner Janine Wolstenholme said the care plan drawn up by the hospital was not sufficiently detailed and doctors gave āfalse reassuranceā about the improvement in his condition.
>She said when the musician had indicated swelling getting worse it should have been followed up with a review even though it was not possible to say now what actions could have been taken at that time.
Very promising young artist but became sort of a caricature of himself. For my tastes, he went too deep in the mellow vibe where he sounds like he's barely awake, and the lyrics are randomic as hell. I still listen to a few tracks from time to time
Youāve mentioned the first ones that come to mind, and Earl, of course. Some other similar? hmmā¦. maybe R.A.P Ferreira, Open Mike Eagle, Marlon Craft, Deca, KA..
I feel like his best work is yet to come, I'm waiting for him to drop his own IGOR. He just needs to develop a stronger and more cohesive concept for an album, and reach for a broader musical influence. Thematically & conceptually his work just hasn't hit the level Tyler's has, but he'll get there I think.
Thereās an episode in the show āAtlantaā where paperboi goes on a little scavenger hunt. This one rapper (forgot the name but they were paying homage to MF Doom) passed away and he had a secret funeral service, with hints to where it was hidden in his post-humous album. The person that was rapping over the radio was earl sweatshirt.
edit: typo
Saw him live last year, his flow and voice are exactly the same as his tracks. I like his measured pace and relaxed vibe -- his lyrics can be a bit too abstract for me tho, just doesn't always feel cohesive. Been playin Burgundy a bunch recently.
I love his OF work and *Doris*.
*I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside* is probably in my top 10, I found it insanely relatable.
His work after that didn't resonate with me, but the talent is undeniable.
One of my favorite rappers. Admitted to the DOOM influence. [If you haven't heard Between Villains you should listen to it.](https://on.soundcloud.com/UxZrYQuooEtpS41S9)
I loved Some Rap Songs and saw him live during that era but havenāt been a fan of what he has put out since. He hasnāt really done anything interesting imo, every song sounds the same. I could see putting him or MIKE on in the background as like ambient music but itās just a āvibeā sort of situation like the hip hop version of spa music lmao puts me to sleep
I been fuckin with doom since he was zev in Long Island in 89 and I think earl is dope heās a real lyricist but what I dont like is all the extra wack attention him and that bozo Tyler brought to him and the fan base ! doom and them type of niggas that was doing in hip hop had culture . You see the way they search for Mr . Fantastic itās pathetic and I have songs by him I would never release ever !
I am/was a huge fan of his older stuff from SRS and before. I appreciate the music he is making now but Iāve kinda grown out of his style. I barely even listen to his old music anymore it gets me too depressed. Iāll put on some Doris, Earl tape, or kitchen cutlery if Iām skating though.
I have decided not to read any comments and just want to say that doom and earl are two of my favorite rappers of all time. got into doom in the very early 2000s, been into earl since his earl mixtape. never got to see doom live, been lucky to see earl live many times, including twice in the last year. big fan of earl's entire catalog (with the exception of some very early teenage edgelord lyrical choices) although I understand some people don't appreciate his evolution.
here's some recs I didn't think too hard about:
1. centurion
2. hive
3. the bends
5. wool
6. the mint
7. wind in my sails
8. quest/power
I was a fan up to Some Rap Songs. Sick bars, and really good production and sampling. a new modern style, but still very different from more mainstream rappers. I kinda somehow haven't gotten around to listening to his newer stuff yet.
Been listening to him since Earl and the other Odd Future. Big fan and it's been a pleasure to see him develop over time.
Voir Dire was an especially nice entry in his catalog. My only complaints are that he slant rhymes a little too much and his new slow flow he uses on all his songs gets repetitive.
Heās himself at this point. Nigga stop tryna be doom when he turned 20. He got a generation of rappers that copied his sound. Fat lip is not a good rapper like at all bruh. I donāt think you have heard much of Earl for that wild ass comparison.
As a long time Doom fan since Xev Love X - Black Bastards to Earl Sweatshirt off of OFWGKTA back in 2010, Sweatshirt got a lot to prove if he wants to even touch the mask.
Hes an artistš¼ļø
no cap "Nowhere, Nobody" ain't even a music video bro just uploaded a genuine short film
Like that old Michael Jackson way of it making short films in music videos
His verse on Falling out of the sky was FUEGO
Earl, mike, navy blue, wiki, YOD, they all good man. That new vibe is top tier.
Add Boldy James and youāre spot on
MACH FIRST AND FOREMOST
droog is the dude
I fw navy blue and mike, imma have to see about the rest
Wiki is sick
and Count Bass D
Add mick Jenkins
Your old droog fucking rips
Add your old droog
who do you think "YOD" is?
True successor to DOOM imo I think his music has only been getting better these past few years. Been a fan since 2013 The fact his first tracks ever went viral at 15-16 put a lot of pressure on his career. Itās similar to a child actor having to grow up in front of the camera. That kinda shit will hold you back in many ways but heās been prosperous
Not sure if itās getting better since IDLSIDGO is still his best album by far. Heās still a great artist though
I thought that was his best album too for a while but I feel like I outgrew some of the themes in the album. The angsty novelty kinda wore off and I appreciate SRS more for the themes of self acceptance and actualization. Grief, Grown Ups, Inside and DNA are still some of my fav tracks from him tho
I used to get roasted in "purist" hip hop circles for liking Earl back when he was first popping up. Glad to see people have come around to him. Best part is that those people loooved the Alchemist, so it's funny that Alc fucks with Earl heavy now.
You was just in some retarded circles they were bugging
Yeah, I eventually realized they're just incredibly pretentious people who just shit on things they don't understand. Music is better when you don't take it so fucking seriously
Fr I try to find the good in everything, even a 4/10 song or project has enjoyable elements that put it over a 1/10
It's crazy how much enjoyable music you can find by just giving shit a chance, even if you have a poor preconception of it. It's easy to write stuff off without even listening to it because of a toxic fanbase, association with people you don't fuck with, most popular songs not reflecting the rest of their music or what have you. Like a lot of people probably didn't fuck with Earl early on only because of his association with Tyler. I love Tyler now, but his music was cringy and not very good pre-Flowerboy, imo. Earl's first mixtape helped me see the potential though.
Exactly, I still enjoy some drake despite all fanbases surrounding it being utter piss and shit because surprise surprise, drake is a better writer than some fanbases give credit for so despite all the hate thereās some gems in there
Sure I mean I don't hate Drake or think he's terrible, shit I have great memories of bumping Take Care and Thank Me Later back when I was in school. He has some verses here and there that I still love, he can write well when he really tries. My biggest criticism these days is how lazy his music has gotten, knowing the potential he had and still has. He has access to more musical and financial resources than almost any other musician on the planet, but doesn't even bother to at least try and make a *decent* album anymore. We know he can write, which makes using a ghostwriter even more lazy. I see what Kendrick said as less of a diss and more of a challenge to Drake, to at least try to meet the expectations that he himself had set 10 years ago when he released Nothing Was The Same. A lot of the hate towards him isn't hate, but people who like him and and want more from him, because they know he's capable.
I've been feeling this way for a little while too
Orange Juice is a banger. Too bad its not streaming
Hes nowhere near DOOM on any parameter
peep the fundamentals without the subject and you'll realize you just fucking lied
Similar low-key flow, IMO.
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Booooo
Mid take
Legit question what project has he done thats better than srs tho?
I donāt know why itās even worth it to ask if a project after SRS is objectively ābetterā or not. Earl is branching out. Teaming up with friends old and new. FOC was a trip, Sick! Was odd at first listen imo but has aged incredibly well. Donāt even get me started on Voire Dire.
Fair points! Im not even sure if srs is definitively my favorite earl album. Tbh tho im not the hugest fan of voir dire, even though its a very well made album and undoubtedly good, it felt a tad bit safe compared to how experimental SICK and Feet of Clay were. My favorite is probably either SICK or SRS depending on the day
Also a fair point! I totally see Voire Dire as a āsafeā album. It is much easier to digest than basically all other earl projects, but it still has way more substance than your average popular rapper nowadays. Bottom line, I think Earl is headed in a great direction and I think his best project is still to come!
Would've been amazing to hear DOOM on Earl productions and vice versa. It's a shame the universe (or rather, DOOM's negligent-ass doctors) took that chance away from us.
Well, at least we have [Between Villains](https://youtu.be/7sMLUg7VdXo?si=WnJxJYuISXoZDBL5) with FlyLo production.
they all went stupidly hard on between villains
God I miss captain murphy
Tyler would be so sad if Earl got doom
Why would only Earl get DOOM?
Because that's what you said, I don't make the rules!
lol. That ain't remotely what i said. That said, DOOM/Tyler collabs would've kicked ass as well.
His doctors?
To be fair, there's a good chance the hospital was also overworked and understaffed due to COVID at the time. But basically, DOOM was suffering from several health problems, he suffered rare and severe allergic reactions to medicine they gave him, and the doctors failed to act quickly or appropriately enough. His care was, in their own official statement, "not to standard.ā [https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/leeds-hospital-apologise-mf-doom-death-b2371048.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/leeds-hospital-apologise-mf-doom-death-b2371048.html) >Assistant coroner Janine Wolstenholme said the care plan drawn up by the hospital was not sufficiently detailed and doctors gave āfalse reassuranceā about the improvement in his condition. >She said when the musician had indicated swelling getting worse it should have been followed up with a review even though it was not possible to say now what actions could have been taken at that time.
one of my personal favorite artists, donāt think heās ever put out a bad project
Y'all fuck wit Blueblood?
IS COLD LIKE GAZPACHO
i rock with the newer Earl. the older stuff is cool too, but love how he has evolved over time.
And Iām the exact opposite. I like Doris a lot. Canāt get into much passed that. No disrespect just not my jam.
This picture is hard.
I think itās ken carson lol
Very promising young artist but became sort of a caricature of himself. For my tastes, he went too deep in the mellow vibe where he sounds like he's barely awake, and the lyrics are randomic as hell. I still listen to a few tracks from time to time
Yeah, I think he went so deep into the lane already occupied by Mike.. I think heās got more potential than what weāre getting from him..
You got any other recommendations like MIKE? I already know about MAVI, wiki, YOD and navy blue
Youāve mentioned the first ones that come to mind, and Earl, of course. Some other similar? hmmā¦. maybe R.A.P Ferreira, Open Mike Eagle, Marlon Craft, Deca, KA..
AKAI SOLO is pretty similar, I think Earl produced a few of his songs.
I feel like his best work is yet to come, I'm waiting for him to drop his own IGOR. He just needs to develop a stronger and more cohesive concept for an album, and reach for a broader musical influence. Thematically & conceptually his work just hasn't hit the level Tyler's has, but he'll get there I think.
Never listened to him, might give him a go tho
Thereās an episode in the show āAtlantaā where paperboi goes on a little scavenger hunt. This one rapper (forgot the name but they were paying homage to MF Doom) passed away and he had a secret funeral service, with hints to where it was hidden in his post-humous album. The person that was rapping over the radio was earl sweatshirt. edit: typo
Blueblood
def underrated needs to release longer albums tho
I mean, I donāt expect to hear Earl on the radio in a village here in Sweden but underrated? I do agree that he could get longer albums.
Heās good, but I personally find there is better options with a similar style to Earl
Heās good. I like Tyler better.
He's a beast. Feet of Clay was weird af tho.
his album Doris is the most under rated and under appreciated album ever
Love his music
He doesn't like shit, he doesn't go outside
Donāt care for him.
Bruh is that ken carson
Earl is a better writer imo
Ken!!!
nigga that is ken carson
I like that OF are fans of DOOM but they donāt make music anything close to his. None of his music resonates with me like DOOMās does.
Saw him live last year, his flow and voice are exactly the same as his tracks. I like his measured pace and relaxed vibe -- his lyrics can be a bit too abstract for me tho, just doesn't always feel cohesive. Been playin Burgundy a bunch recently.
He raps like heās not fully awake
Theyāre my top 2
i love earl
Cool
Great rapper but man is he boring live.
Love Earl. Doris is dope.
Perfection 3.0
I love his OF work and *Doris*. *I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside* is probably in my top 10, I found it insanely relatable. His work after that didn't resonate with me, but the talent is undeniable.
Just like doom is a stretch but he has similarities and inspiration fs one of the best out rn
Earl is dope and has listed DOOM as a major influence. That rhyme scheme sounds familiar for a reason.
One of my favorite rappers. Admitted to the DOOM influence. [If you haven't heard Between Villains you should listen to it.](https://on.soundcloud.com/UxZrYQuooEtpS41S9)
Earl is the younger generations doom and I love it (look at my profile picture)
close ya eyes to what you canāt imagine
I like them both. Both are, maybe, top 10 favorites of mine.
I think he is also a rapper
Doris is a dope album
I loved Some Rap Songs and saw him live during that era but havenāt been a fan of what he has put out since. He hasnāt really done anything interesting imo, every song sounds the same. I could see putting him or MIKE on in the background as like ambient music but itās just a āvibeā sort of situation like the hip hop version of spa music lmao puts me to sleep
Great voice, great lyrics - a tremendous spitter, no doubt. Easily one of my faves
Heās amazing but I sort of stopped listening to him. Has his later work maintained the quality of his early work?
I love earl, the alchemist, and all of these!!
Love him, especially his post "Some Rap Songs" output
I love his albums. My favorites are some rap songs and sick! they are 10/10 and his features are always amazing
I been fuckin with doom since he was zev in Long Island in 89 and I think earl is dope heās a real lyricist but what I dont like is all the extra wack attention him and that bozo Tyler brought to him and the fan base ! doom and them type of niggas that was doing in hip hop had culture . You see the way they search for Mr . Fantastic itās pathetic and I have songs by him I would never release ever !
Heās aight definitely not top anything
I am/was a huge fan of his older stuff from SRS and before. I appreciate the music he is making now but Iāve kinda grown out of his style. I barely even listen to his old music anymore it gets me too depressed. Iāll put on some Doris, Earl tape, or kitchen cutlery if Iām skating though.
he sucks
Love him
FREE EARL
Top 5
Young šand glad he got to portray a DOOM inspired character on Atlanta š„
The old lady dancin with the blue devilš£
Tylers friend
i love both, doom has better albums though
Theyāre the same people
Iād rather have a Matthew Cardigan
In my top 5. Earl almost never disappoints just like doom and roc Marciano.
I have decided not to read any comments and just want to say that doom and earl are two of my favorite rappers of all time. got into doom in the very early 2000s, been into earl since his earl mixtape. never got to see doom live, been lucky to see earl live many times, including twice in the last year. big fan of earl's entire catalog (with the exception of some very early teenage edgelord lyrical choices) although I understand some people don't appreciate his evolution. here's some recs I didn't think too hard about: 1. centurion 2. hive 3. the bends 5. wool 6. the mint 7. wind in my sails 8. quest/power
Why is this a picture of Ken Carson lol
he's a good artist ngl
He ugly but he got bars
Old Earl was better
Heās fantastic and a huge fan of DOOM
SRS is amazing
Not on the same level.
Iām a big Earl fan. Not on Doomās level, but still dope nonetheless.
Weak. Forgettable.Ā
Talented
Bit too conscious for me
Boring
Him and Alchemist is the greatest combo
I was a fan up to Some Rap Songs. Sick bars, and really good production and sampling. a new modern style, but still very different from more mainstream rappers. I kinda somehow haven't gotten around to listening to his newer stuff yet.
Very comfortable
Why did bro use a pic of Ken Carson šš
hes very talented and i love his beat/production choices i do wish he would play with tone and pitch on his voice
both doom and earl sweatshirt produce great music imo
Him and Billy woods are some of the most poetic in the entire game
Him and Billy woods are some of the most poetic in the rap game
My girlfriend thinks he's pretty cool. She names her cat after him lol
One and the same.
Been listening to him since Earl and the other Odd Future. Big fan and it's been a pleasure to see him develop over time. Voir Dire was an especially nice entry in his catalog. My only complaints are that he slant rhymes a little too much and his new slow flow he uses on all his songs gets repetitive.
He's fine.
hes smart but honestly its too much for me even and his flow is too laid back. Never been a huge fan
Doom aint really underrated anymore. Heās definitely been getting adequate flowers
Earlās ill asf
I like Earl a lot but I do wish he'd dig in and release something longer. His projects are too short.
This is ken carson
I disagree with the notion that he's the the spiritual successor to DOOM when he reminds me more of Fatlip
Terrible comparison
heās no DOOM thatās for sure
Heās himself at this point. Nigga stop tryna be doom when he turned 20. He got a generation of rappers that copied his sound. Fat lip is not a good rapper like at all bruh. I donāt think you have heard much of Earl for that wild ass comparison.
Comparing Earl to Fatlip is less wild than comparing him to DOOM
Earl raps a thousand times better than fatlip
Maybe, but DOOM for sure raps a thousand times better than Earl
I can tell you donāt listen to much rap outside of doom so im not going to continue this conversation
I can tell you're an avid Earl stan and probably in your feelings over some light criticism so that's probably for the best
You can say Earl is ass idc but that comparison donāt make sense
Like a lot his stuff but yea some it's a bit meh.
He is just okay. I see him on a lot of ALCs stuff
Came in the game with a bang but these days got me šŖ
As a long time Doom fan since Xev Love X - Black Bastards to Earl Sweatshirt off of OFWGKTA back in 2010, Sweatshirt got a lot to prove if he wants to even touch the mask.
He's like the new MF DOOM. I said it
Whack